Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu and Lillaverke
Dear Tracy, Bernd, and List; From Oahu to Moloki and the Channel is a very large area. Being of watery origin, I am surprized any fell anywhere it didn't get wet. Leper Dave F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tracy wrote: I had thought that meant they collected pieces that fell on the ship. Michael Blood wrote: Do you or anyone else know of ANY reference... Hello All, Here what I can offer: American Journal of Science and Arts. Vol. 49, Oct 1845: Particulars of the fall of Meteorites in the Sandwich Islands; communicated by request, by the Rev. Hiram Bingham, missionary in those Islands, in a letter dated Boston, May 1, 1845. To Prof. Silliman--On the 27th of September, 1825, a shower of meteoric stones fell, partly in the channel between Molokai and Lanai, and partly between those islands and Oahu, and partly at Honolulu, where I then resided. One explosion was heard at Lahaina, and several in quick succession at Honolulu, eighty miles to the northwest, between the hours of 10 and 11, A.M. The fragment that was seen to pass Lahaina towards Oahu fell in the Molokai Channel, and threw a mass of water into the air, and was said to be followed by a rumbling sound. The Rev. Mr. Richards of Lahaina mistook the report of the explosion for that of cannon on board of some ship. The explosions which I heard at Honolulu led me at first to suppose they were cannon on board of ships not far distant. But soon after I was satisfied that they were meteoric. Very soon the servants of Kalanimoku, secretary of state, brought me the fragment which they affirmed had just fallen from the sky in our village. This fragment I carefully preserved and brought over, and had the pleasure of presenting to you. A different pleasure from that with which Mr. Richards and myself picked up and forwarded to the Missionary Museum in Pemberton Square, Boston, a cannon ball--one of several which had been fired at our heads. As for Lillaverke, maybe one of our Swedish list members can look into this: WICKMAN F.E. (1993) Eight pound ball fell on the ship and killed two boatsmen (Swedish Geol. J. 115, 29-298). I don't know where I or someone else found this reference and whether ball is the correct word in the Swedish version of that paper. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu
Tracy, I would love to add Honolulu to my list of hammers. Do you (or anyone else) know of ANY reference to any stones from this fall hitting a ship? If so, please provide the source. RSVP Thanks, Michael on 1/22/07 9:55 AM, tracy latimer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honolulu -- might also count as a hammer, since pieces fell in Honolulu harbor, and some (apocryphally) landed on ships anchored there. Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu
I reviewed the little I had regarding the Honolulu fall, and have to make a retraction -- or maybe a redirection. Although my material cannot confirm whether any fragments struck ships at anchor in the harbor, several did fall on and around the mission house settlement by the harbor, one striking coral rock, which was commonly used for construction of walls and houses. Before I could definitively say Honolulu was a hammer, I'd have to do more research to confirm it, but it's not unlikely. BTW, I think my statement came from misreading the original article in Aloha Airline's inflight magazine; it said that sailors from the Russian frigate Predpriatie took meteoric fragments back to Russia with them. I had thought that meant they collected pieces that fell on the ship. Apparently they instead collected them on the mission house grounds and brought them aboard. My small piece at least has that likely provenance! Tracy Latimer From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED],Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:17:38 -0800 Tracy, I would love to add Honolulu to my list of hammers. Do you (or anyone else) know of ANY reference to any stones from this fall hitting a ship? If so, please provide the source. RSVP Thanks, Michael on 1/22/07 9:55 AM, tracy latimer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honolulu -- might also count as a hammer, since pieces fell in Honolulu harbor, and some (apocryphally) landed on ships anchored there. Tracy Latimer _ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu
Hi, Tracy, Michael, List, I know of only one confirmed hit on a ship: TAHARA (JAPAN) H5 1991 The meteorite was found on deck of the ship M.S. Century-Highway No. 1, which was loading cars in the T-3 berth on Toyota-pier at Toyohashi harbour (Tahara district). When the crew came back from lunch after 12:00, they found meteorite fragments spread out from two impact dents in the steel deck, the largest measuring 20 x 6.5 cm and 3 cm depth, the smaller 17cm away from it. From the size of the impact dent the total weight was estimated to more than 5kg, but most of it was thrown into the ocean by the cleaning crew, only about 1 kg are preserved. No sound was heard accompanying the fall, but during car loading it was very noisy. Keep that cleaning crew away from meteorites. Send'em over to my house. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu I reviewed the little I had regarding the Honolulu fall, and have to make a retraction -- or maybe a redirection. Although my material cannot confirm whether any fragments struck ships at anchor in the harbor, several did fall on and around the mission house settlement by the harbor, one striking coral rock, which was commonly used for construction of walls and houses. Before I could definitively say Honolulu was a hammer, I'd have to do more research to confirm it, but it's not unlikely. BTW, I think my statement came from misreading the original article in Aloha Airline's inflight magazine; it said that sailors from the Russian frigate Predpriatie took meteoric fragments back to Russia with them. I had thought that meant they collected pieces that fell on the ship. Apparently they instead collected them on the mission house grounds and brought them aboard. My small piece at least has that likely provenance! Tracy Latimer From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED],Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:17:38 -0800 Tracy, I would love to add Honolulu to my list of hammers. Do you (or anyone else) know of ANY reference to any stones from this fall hitting a ship? If so, please provide the source. RSVP Thanks, Michael on 1/22/07 9:55 AM, tracy latimer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honolulu -- might also count as a hammer, since pieces fell in Honolulu harbor, and some (apocryphally) landed on ships anchored there. Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu
Dear Tracy, Before I could definitively say Honolulu was a hammer, I'd have to do more research to confirm it, but it's not unlikely. Not unlikely - h - still, it is encouraging BTW, I think my statement came from misreading the original article in Aloha Airline's inflight magazine An impeccable source of information - at least for the lower middle classes and mental midgets Just joking I am truly excited you are willing to research this further! Hopefully, you will come up with a reliable source - or even a newspaper report stating it hit a structure or a ship. That would be a major contribution to the metoritic knowledge base, at least in my tiny mind. We (or at least I) await further pronouncements resulting from your efforts. I solute you! Keeping his fingers crossed in San Diego, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
