Re: [meteorite-list] Re:New Impact Crater
It looks somewhat like a cauldera, to me, a cindercone long filled up with water. Kind of like Crater Lake in Oregon. lolIf there were more documentation available, reliable documentation, not just something posted on the internet, I might be less incredulous...Suzi Platypus Girl"Sterling K. Webb" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JKG,Think there's little doubt Johnny Tonko namedthe Tonko Astrobleme to honor Johnny Tonko.If pressed, I'm sure he could come up witha website by Johnny Tonko naming the TonkoAstrobleme in honor of Johnny Tonko.The "astrobleme" is a small pond surroundedby conifers in a cold but arid region. The trees arerestricted to the water source; the ground shows thecharacteristic wrinkle of frozen taiga -- at least, that'show I read the image he provided. One supposesthe proof of cometary origin is that the pond isfilled with rare cometary material... WATER.Sterling K. Webb--- Original Message - From: "JKGwilliam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "Charles O'Dale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <METEORITE-LIST@METEORITECENTRAL.COM>Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:19 PMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re:New Impact Crater Thanks for the link Chuck. I took some time and looked through the data base and found no mention of a "Tonko Astrobleme." This seems odd to me since the finder of the supposed comet crater , Johnny Tonko, made the following statement on a gold prospector and meteorite forum (NuggentShooter Forum): "There is no separate write up on the crater other than the documentaion naming it Tonko Astrobleme to honor me as the discoverer." It seems to me that if the crater mentioned here was named to honor Johnny Tonko, there should be some documentation available on the internet. After all, if the USGS or some other governmental agency didn't name the crater, who did? Best, JKG At 06:55 AM 8/16/2006, Charles O'Dale wrote:AL:Have a look at:http://www.shattercones.biz/ifsgforum/and http://web.eps.utk.edu/ifsg.htm... that may be of interest for you.ChuckCharles O'DaleMeeting ChairOttawa RASChttp://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/articles/odale_chuck/earth_craters/index.html*Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:21:59 -0400From: almitt <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [meteorite-list] New Impact CraterTo: <mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comMessage-ID: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"Try Again.Greetings,Anyone interested in new meteorcraters should check this link out. Notonly a new one but from acometary impact. Nice for the researcher to post it on a forum ratherthan the usual circles. You bethe judge.http://www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=f9ca307aeb60243c16bc1d5350182090showtopic=7651AL Mitterling__Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re:New Impact Crater
Thanks for the link Chuck. I took some time and looked through the data base and found no mention of a Tonko Astrobleme. This seems odd to me since the finder of the supposed comet crater , Johnny Tonko, made the following statement on a gold prospector and meteorite forum (NuggentShooter Forum): There is no separate write up on the crater other than the documentaion naming it Tonko Astrobleme to honor me as the discoverer. It seems to me that if the crater mentioned here was named to honor Johnny Tonko, there should be some documentation available on the internet. After all, if the USGS or some other governmental agency didn't name the crater, who did? Best, JKG At 06:55 AM 8/16/2006, Charles O'Dale wrote: AL: Have a look at: http://www.shattercones.biz/ifsgforum/http://www.shattercones.biz/ifsgforum/ and http://web.eps.utk.edu/ifsg.htmhttp://web.eps.utk.edu/ifsg.htm ... that may be of interest for you. Chuck Charles O'Dale Meeting Chair Ottawa RASC http://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/articles/odale_chuck/earth_craters/index.htmlhttp://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/articles/odale_chuck/earth_craters/index.html * Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:21:59 -0400 From: almitt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] New Impact Crater To: mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.commeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Try Again. Greetings, Anyone interested in new meteorcraters should check this link out. Not only a new one but from a cometary impact. Nice for the researcher to post it on a forum rather than the usual circles. You be the judge. http://www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=f9ca307aeb60243c16bc1d5350182090showtopic=7651http://www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=f9ca307aeb60243c16bc1d5350182090showtopic=7651 AL Mitterling __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re:New Impact Crater
JKG, Think there's little doubt Johnny Tonko named the Tonko Astrobleme to honor Johnny Tonko. If pressed, I'm sure he could come up with a website by Johnny Tonko naming the Tonko Astrobleme in honor of Johnny Tonko. The astrobleme is a small pond surrounded by conifers in a cold but arid region. The trees are restricted to the water source; the ground shows the characteristic wrinkle of frozen taiga -- at least, that's how I read the image he provided. One supposes the proof of cometary origin is that the pond is filled with rare cometary material... WATER. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charles O'Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re:New Impact Crater Thanks for the link Chuck. I took some time and looked through the data base and found no mention of a Tonko Astrobleme. This seems odd to me since the finder of the supposed comet crater , Johnny Tonko, made the following statement on a gold prospector and meteorite forum (NuggentShooter Forum): There is no separate write up on the crater other than the documentaion naming it Tonko Astrobleme to honor me as the discoverer. It seems to me that if the crater mentioned here was named to honor Johnny Tonko, there should be some documentation available on the internet. After all, if the USGS or some other governmental agency didn't name the crater, who did? Best, JKG At 06:55 AM 8/16/2006, Charles O'Dale wrote: AL: Have a look at: http://www.shattercones.biz/ifsgforum/http://www.shattercones.biz/ifsgforum/ and http://web.eps.utk.edu/ifsg.htmhttp://web.eps.utk.edu/ifsg.htm ... that may be of interest for you. Chuck Charles O'Dale Meeting Chair Ottawa RASC http://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/articles/odale_chuck/earth_craters/index.htmlhttp://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/articles/odale_chuck/earth_craters/index.html * Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:21:59 -0400 From: almitt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] New Impact Crater To: mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.commeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Try Again. Greetings, Anyone interested in new meteorcraters should check this link out. Not only a new one but from a cometary impact. Nice for the researcher to post it on a forum rather than the usual circles. You be the judge. http://www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=f9ca307aeb60243c16bc1d5350182090showtopic=7651http://www.nuggetshooter.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=f9ca307aeb60243c16bc1d5350182090showtopic=7651 AL Mitterling __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re:New Impact Crater
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:19:54 -0700, you wrote: There is no separate write up on the crater other than the documentaion naming it Tonko Astrobleme to honor me as the discoverer. Digging through Google for mentions of the Tonko Astrobleme answers the question posed earlier as to wherther or not Tonko had heard of shatter cones (or at least tektie shatter cones). From a googlecache entry from your former forum: http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:0elXYxFNLR4J:www.meteoriteimpact.invisionzone.com/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D334%26view%3Dgetlastpost+tonko+astroblemehl=engl=usct=clnkcd=4 John: The Tonko Astrobleme is located in the western US. The exact coordinates are currently being witheld from public disclosure until my ongoing research is completed. This is due to the high potential for illegal and unauthorized collecting of the high value specimens of impactite, tektie shatter cones shocked quartz and comet fragments that are scattered around the crater. The size rivals the Barringer structure and age is 2025 (+/- 25) years. Sincerely, Johnny Tonko __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re:New Impact Crater
Hi, In all fairness, I should point out that Johnny stops using commas in his list after the first item, so he probably meant: impactite, tekti[t]e[s], shatter cones, shocked quartz, and comet fragments as the elements in his list. The pond looks to me to be no more than 1500 feet across, but I could be off by a factor of two if the trees are bigger. The wrinkles could be wind wrinkles or frost heave. It's got to be the least promising site I've seen in a while. Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re:New Impact Crater On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:19:54 -0700, you wrote: There is no separate write up on the crater other than the documentaion naming it Tonko Astrobleme to honor me as the discoverer. Digging through Google for mentions of the Tonko Astrobleme answers the question posed earlier as to wherther or not Tonko had heard of shatter cones (or at least tektie shatter cones). From a googlecache entry from your former forum: http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:0elXYxFNLR4J:www.meteoriteimpact.invisionzone.com/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D334%26view%3Dgetlastpost+tonko+astroblemehl=engl=usct=clnkcd=4 John: The Tonko Astrobleme is located in the western US. The exact coordinates are currently being witheld from public disclosure until my ongoing research is completed. This is due to the high potential for illegal and unauthorized collecting of the high value specimens of impactite, tektie shatter cones shocked quartz and comet fragments that are scattered around the crater. The size rivals the Barringer structure and age is 2025 (+/- 25) years. Sincerely, Johnny Tonko __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
