RE: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfield
Title: RE: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfield Me thinks we are stretching the definition and/or conventional use of the term strewn field. Quite so. Most strewn fields aren't discovered until well after their falls, by which time they become recovery fields. The distinction is perhaps subtle, but certainly real since meteorites (once landed) don't stay in place forever. None of the strewn fields in California/Nevada/Arizona/Texas are truly strewn fields, given that many of them have moved since their original falls. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfield
Hi EMan and list, So a strewnfield does not exist until proven, regardless of the fact that little or no effort has been made in the investigation of a given fall/find? I can see that. Still, I'd like to believe they're there just as any cold find sets a hunter in motion. Bill -- Original message -- From: Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Me thinks we are stretching the definition and/or conventional use of the term strewn field. A single stone-2-3 stones do not a strewn field make unless there is compelling evidence that there was a wide spread peppering of stones. We are talking meteorite showers here. Park Forest, Allende, Odessa, Canyon Diablo, Holbrook, Johnstown, Bilingua, Gold Basin, Tagish Lake, etc.. Have Strewn fields based on direct recovery.(forgive any mispellings cheap spell check) Peekskill, theoretically has a strewn field with 3 or more Peaks owing to sequential fragmentation--even though only one stone was recovered: over 75 fragments were seen to fall away from the swarm... New Orleans, Syllicaga, Westfield, etc...nada The whole issue of strewn field was based on a mathematical distribution ellipse that early researchers used to forecast an area to concentrate searching. To draw this elipse one needs technically 4 or more stones plotted less than. The ellipse is refined as more stones are recovered and plotted. a well defined ellipse(30+) typically means 90 95-98% of the time at least 95% of the distribution will fall within the ellipse. Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfield
Hi, MARENGO, an L6, was found September 1991: One stone of 68g was found among rock piles on the side of a cultivated farm field by James A. Wotal and his son, Alex. Mineralogy (E.J. Olsen, Chicago): olivine Fa 25.0^, pyroxene Fs 21.2^. WOODBINE, on the other hand, was found by a deep-plowing tractor (Clunk!) in a single 48,200 gram hunk sometime in 1953. Good place for Steve Arnold (IMB) type metal detector or ground radar. Might be more big hunks. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Joe To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfield Steve and list, Is the marengo a strewn field? I think it was found in a rock pile. I do not think it was found in a field. Am I wrong? Maybe we could go to woodbine or maybe even try and find another marengo. Maybe the week after Park Forest? Maybe even this Sunday. Serg and I are down to search anyv possible strewn field in IL, just let me know when you want to go. If anyone else wants to go to any of them they can also contact me on or off list. Thanks, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com - Original Message From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:17:39 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfield It seems that I actually live closer to the MARENGO strewnfield (24 miles) than park forest.I am also only 60 miles from the woodbind strewnfield as well.So I have to set the record straight. steve arnold Steve Arnold,Chicago,USA!! BIG Steve's Meteorites,1999!! Website://:stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfield
Me thinks we are stretching the definition and/or conventional use of the term strewn field. A single stone-2-3 stones do not a strewn field make unless there is compelling evidence that there was a wide spread peppering of stones. We are talking meteorite showers here. Park Forest, Allende, Odessa, Canyon Diablo, Holbrook, Johnstown, Bilingua, Gold Basin, Tagish Lake, etc.. Have Strewn fields based on direct recovery.(forgive any mispellings cheap spell check) Peekskill, theoretically has a strewn field with 3 or more Peaks owing to sequential fragmentation--even though only one stone was recovered: over 75 fragments were seen to fall away from the swarm... New Orleans, Syllicaga, Westfield, etc...nada The whole issue of strewn field was based on a mathematical distribution ellipse that early researchers used to forecast an area to concentrate searching. To draw this elipse one needs technically 4 or more stones plotted less than. The ellipse is refined as more stones are recovered and plotted. a well defined ellipse(30+) typically means 90 95-98% of the time at least 95% of the distribution will fall within the ellipse. Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfield
Steve and list, Is the marengo a strewn field? I think it was found in a rock pile. I do not think it was found in a "field". Am I wrong? Maybe we could go to woodbine or maybe even try and find another marengo. Maybe the week after Park Forest? Maybe even this Sunday. Serg and I are down to search anyv possible strewn field in IL, just let me know when you want to go. If anyone else wants to go to any of them they can also contact me on or off list.Thanks,Joe Kerchnerhttp://illinoismeteorites.com- Original Message From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:17:39 PMSubject: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfieldIt seems that I actually live closer to the MARENGOstrewnfield (24 miles) than park forest.I am also only60 miles from the woodbind strewnfield as well.So Ihave to set the record straight.steve arnoldSteve Arnold,Chicago,USA!!BIG Steve's Meteorites,1999!!Website://:stormbringer60120.tripod.com__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfield
Aloha - When I lived on that other island (Oahu) I was within 2-3km of the Palolo touchdown point, (since I lived in Palolo Valley) and it must have been within 10-15 km of the Honolulu meteorite strewn field.Since I live on the Big Island, no one has found / identified a meteorite here - difficult due to the problem of looking for black rocks on black rocks - or rocks in dense rainforest... They must be out there :-)Cheers - ted - from the rocking and rolling island. Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
