Re: [uf-discuss] Solution to wiki problem with misaligned section-edit links

2006-12-11 Thread David Janes

This policy makes it easier to have a page header without piling up
everything under section 1.. It gets ugly if it's done more than
once on a page though.

Regards, etc
David

On 12/11/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The problem of misaligned section-edit links is caused by
using h[n] tags for headers, instead of the proper wiki markup (=,
== etc.).

I changed one page to fix that explaining so in my edit summary:


http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfn-clarificationsdiff=prevoldid=11212

and Tantek almost immediately reverted it, reintroducing the misaligned
linking; and adding an instruction not to do so to:

http://microformats.org/wiki/how-to-play

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Re: [uf-discuss] Solution to wiki problem with misaligned section-edit links

2006-12-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
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David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

On 12/11/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The problem of misaligned section-edit links is caused by
 using h[n] tags for headers, instead of the proper wiki markup (=,
 == etc.).

[Please don't top-post]

This policy makes it easier to have a page header without piling up
everything under section 1..

What is that a problem? It doesn't seem to bother Wikipedia's many
users.

And is the damage it does to usability worth putting up with, for a
marginal, if any, improvement in appearance?


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Re: [uf-discuss] Solution to wiki problem with misaligned section-edit links

2006-12-11 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux

Hello,

Why not use __NOTOC__ ?


See ya

On 12/11/06, David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This policy makes it easier to have a page header without piling up
everything under section 1.. It gets ugly if it's done more than
once on a page though.

Regards, etc
David

On 12/11/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The problem of misaligned section-edit links is caused by
 using h[n] tags for headers, instead of the proper wiki markup (=,
 == etc.).

 I changed one page to fix that explaining so in my edit summary:

 
http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfn-clarificationsdiff=prevoldid=11212

 and Tantek almost immediately reverted it, reintroducing the misaligned
 linking; and adding an instruction not to do so to:

 http://microformats.org/wiki/how-to-play






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Re: [uf-discuss] Solution to wiki problem with misaligned section-edit links

2006-12-11 Thread David Janes

On 12/11/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

Why not use __NOTOC__ ?


Start a wiki page, keep it in edit mode (i.e. don't save) and play
with it. The current practice has its downfalls but seems to work
esthetically well, with the downside that you have to click one down
to edit.

Regards, etc...
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Re: [uf-discuss] Solution to wiki problem with misaligned section-edit links

2006-12-11 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 12/11/06 12:27 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Why not use __NOTOC__ ?

I believe __NOTOC__ simply blocks the TOC from appearing at all, unless I'm
mistaken.

Charles, could you elaborate on how you would use __NOTOC__ to solve this
problem of heading noise in TOCs?

Thanks,

Tantek

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Re: [uf-discuss] Solution to wiki problem with misaligned section-edit links

2006-12-11 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux

Hello Tantek,

You're correct, __NOTOC__ just blocks the TOC from appearing.
Re-reading what was originally posted I can see that it won't help
with this particular problem.


See ya

On 12/11/06, Tantek Çelik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 12/11/06 12:27 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hello,

 Why not use __NOTOC__ ?

I believe __NOTOC__ simply blocks the TOC from appearing at all, unless I'm
mistaken.

Charles, could you elaborate on how you would use __NOTOC__ to solve this
problem of heading noise in TOCs?

Thanks,

Tantek




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Re: [uf-discuss] Solution to wiki problem with misaligned section-edit links

2006-12-11 Thread Scott Reynen

On Dec 11, 2006, at 2:33 PM, David Janes wrote:


Start a wiki page, keep it in edit mode (i.e. don't save) and play
with it. The current practice has its downfalls but seems to work
esthetically well, with the downside that you have to click one down
to edit.


I just realized that this thread is discussing one of my pet peeves.   
I can't believe I almost missed the opportunity to rant about how  
annoying it is to click on an edit link and have it open the wrong  
section.  But even more annoying than that: when the links get pushed  
down, the last sections end up with no working edit links at all, so  
you have to guess at the section number if you want to edit those  
sections.  So I'll put my vote in for avoiding whatever causes this  
to happen.


Peace,
Scott

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