Re: [MiKTeX] Read/write translation with Cyrillic
Thanks. As I said, the TeX side works fine with CP1251. But, of course, this:
" Moroz i solnce, den\cyrsftsn{} chudesny\U{i}!\\ Eshch\"e ty
dremlesh\cyrsftsn{},"
Is not an option, either! :)
> -Original Message-
> From: Bostjan Vilfan [mailto:bjvil...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 12:41 AM
> To: A place for MiKTeX users to discuss MiKTeX related questions. us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [MiKTeX] Read/write translation with Cyrillic
>
> on the off-chance that it might help, there's a non-utf8 version:
>
> %-*-LaTeX-*-
> %%% Moroz_OT2.tex %%%
> %
> %%
> %% Date: 9-Aug-2002
> %% Author: wd (wolfgang.dob...@ncl.ac.uk) %
>
> \documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article}
>
> \usepackage[T2A,OT1]{fontenc}
> \usepackage[ot2enc]{inputenc}
> \usepackage[russian,english]{babel}
>
> \sloppy % Hyphenation is a problem..
>
> \author{A. S. Pushkin}
> \title{{\cyr Zimnee utro} (winter morning)}
>
> \begin{document}
> \maketitle
>
> \section{A section}
>
> \noindent{\cyr%}
> Moroz i solnce, den\cyrsftsn{} chudesny\U{i}!\\ Eshch\"e ty
> dremlesh\cyrsftsn{},
> drug prelestny\U{i}?\\ Pora, krasavica, prosnis\cyrsftsn!}
>
> \subsection{Accented characters}
> You can still use accents and diacritica as usual:
> \begin{quote}
> \"Uberm\"a{\ss}iger Lik\"orgenuss in der \"Offentlichkeit f\"uhrt
> zu \"Arger
> \end{quote}
> \begin{quote}
> \^Etre ou ne pas \^etre --- c'est une question tr\`es int\'eressante
> en Fran\c{c}ais
> \end{quote}
>
> \subsection{\cyr Shrifty}
> \cyr {\sc Konechno} {\bf vse} {\em varianty} {\TeX}ovskih {\sl shriftov}
> dostupny
> i s {\sf kirillice\U{i}}.
>
> \cyr{
> % \cyra
> % \cyrabhch
> % \cyrabhchdsc
> % \cyrabhdze
> % \cyrabhha
> % \cyrae
> \cyrb
> % \cyrbyus
> \cyrc
> \cyrch
> % \cyrchldsc
> % \cyrchrdsc
> % \cyrchvcrs
>\cyrd
> % \cyrdelta
>\cyrdje
>\cyrdze
>\cyrdzhe
>\cyre
> % \cyreps
>\cyrerev
>\cyrery
>\cyrf
>\cyrfita
>\cyrg
> % \cyrgdsc
> % \cyrgdschcrs
> % \cyrghcrs
> % \cyrghk
> % \cyrgup
>\cyrh
> % \cyrhdsc
> % \cyrhhcrs
> % \cyrhhk
>\cyrhrdsn
>\cyri\cyrie\cyrii\cyrishrt
> % \cyrishrtdsc
>\cyrizh
>\cyrje
>\cyrk
> % \cyrkbeak
> % \cyrkdsc
> % \cyrkhcrs
> % \cyrkhk
> % \cyrkvcrs
>\cyrl
> % \cyrldsc
> % \cyrlhk
> % \CYRLHK\cyrlje\CYRLJE\cyrm\CYRM\cyrmdsc\CYRMDSC\cyrmhk\CYRMHK
> % \cyrn\CYRN\cyrndsc\CYRNDSC\cyrng\CYRNG\cyrnhk\CYRNHK\cyrnje
> % \CYRNJE\cyrnlhk\CYRNLHK\cyro\CYRO\cyrotld\CYROTLD\cyrp\CYRP
> % \cyrphk\CYRPHK\cyrq\CYRQ\cyrr\CYRR\cyrrdsc\CYRRDSC\cyrrhk
> % \CYRRHK\cyrrtick\CYRRTICK\cyrs\CYRS\cyrsacrs\CYRSACRS
> % \cyrschwa\CYRSCHWA\cyrsdsc\CYRSDSC\cyrsemisftsn\CYRSEMISFTSN
> % \cyrsftsn\CYRSFTSN\cyrsh\CYRSH\cyrshch\CYRSHCH\cyrshha\CYRSHHA
> % \cyrt\CYRT\cyrtdsc\CYRTDSC\cyrtetse\CYRTETSE\cyrtshe\CYRTSHE
> % \cyru\CYRU\cyrushrt\CYRUSHRT\cyrv\CYRV\cyrw\CYRW\cyry\CYRY
> % \cyrya\CYRYA\cyryat\CYRYAT\cyryhcrs\CYRYHCRS\cyryi\CYRYI\cyryo
> % \CYRYO\cyryu\CYRYU\cyrz\CYRZ\cyrzdsc\CYRZDSC\cyrzh\CYRZH
> % \cyrzhdsc\CYRZHDSC
> }%
> \end{document}
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:06 PM, Alex Degtyarev via MiKTeX-Users < miktex-
> us...@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, I posted it to a wrong list. :( The problem is not on the TeX's
> > side, but I'm not sure that I can remove my post from this list.
> > Accidentally, your example wouldn't solve it as it uses utf8 :)
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Bostjan Vilfan [mailto:bjvil...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 4:00 PM
> > > To: A place for MiKTeX users to discuss MiKTeX related questions.
> > > > us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [MiKTeX] Read/write translation with Cyrillic
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what the problem is. The following works quite well:
> > > Regards, BV
> > >
> > > -*- mode: LaTeX;
> coding:
> > > utf-8; -*-
> > > %%% Moroz_koi koi.tex %%%
> > >
> > > %%
> > > %% Date: 9-Aug-2002
> > > %% Author: wd (wolfgang.dob...@ncl.ac.uk) %
> > >
> > > \documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article}
> > >
> > > \usepackage[T2A]{fontenc}
> > > \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} % older versions of ucs package
> > > %\
Re: [MiKTeX] Read/write translation with Cyrillic
on the off-chance that it might help, there's a non-utf8 version:
%-*-LaTeX-*-
%%% Moroz_OT2.tex %%%
%
%%
%% Date: 9-Aug-2002
%% Author: wd (wolfgang.dob...@ncl.ac.uk)
%
\documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article}
\usepackage[T2A,OT1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[ot2enc]{inputenc}
\usepackage[russian,english]{babel}
\sloppy % Hyphenation is a problem..
\author{A. S. Pushkin}
\title{{\cyr Zimnee utro} (winter morning)}
\begin{document}
\maketitle
\section{A section}
\noindent{\cyr%}
Moroz i solnce, den\cyrsftsn{} chudesny\U{i}!\\
Eshch\"e ty dremlesh\cyrsftsn{}, drug prelestny\U{i}?\\
Pora, krasavica, prosnis\cyrsftsn!}
\subsection{Accented characters}
You can still use accents and diacritica as usual:
\begin{quote}
\"Uberm\"a{\ss}iger Lik\"orgenuss in der \"Offentlichkeit f\"uhrt
zu \"Arger
\end{quote}
\begin{quote}
\^Etre ou ne pas \^etre --- c'est une question tr\`es int\'eressante
en Fran\c{c}ais
\end{quote}
\subsection{\cyr Shrifty}
\cyr {\sc Konechno} {\bf vse} {\em varianty} {\TeX}ovskih {\sl shriftov}
dostupny i s {\sf kirillice\U{i}}.
\cyr{
% \cyra
% \cyrabhch
% \cyrabhchdsc
% \cyrabhdze
% \cyrabhha
% \cyrae
\cyrb
% \cyrbyus
\cyrc
\cyrch
% \cyrchldsc
% \cyrchrdsc
% \cyrchvcrs
\cyrd
% \cyrdelta
\cyrdje
\cyrdze
\cyrdzhe
\cyre
% \cyreps
\cyrerev
\cyrery
\cyrf
\cyrfita
\cyrg
% \cyrgdsc
% \cyrgdschcrs
% \cyrghcrs
% \cyrghk
% \cyrgup
\cyrh
% \cyrhdsc
% \cyrhhcrs
% \cyrhhk
\cyrhrdsn
\cyri\cyrie\cyrii\cyrishrt
% \cyrishrtdsc
\cyrizh
\cyrje
\cyrk
% \cyrkbeak
% \cyrkdsc
% \cyrkhcrs
% \cyrkhk
% \cyrkvcrs
\cyrl
% \cyrldsc
% \cyrlhk
% \CYRLHK\cyrlje\CYRLJE\cyrm\CYRM\cyrmdsc\CYRMDSC\cyrmhk\CYRMHK
% \cyrn\CYRN\cyrndsc\CYRNDSC\cyrng\CYRNG\cyrnhk\CYRNHK\cyrnje
% \CYRNJE\cyrnlhk\CYRNLHK\cyro\CYRO\cyrotld\CYROTLD\cyrp\CYRP
% \cyrphk\CYRPHK\cyrq\CYRQ\cyrr\CYRR\cyrrdsc\CYRRDSC\cyrrhk
% \CYRRHK\cyrrtick\CYRRTICK\cyrs\CYRS\cyrsacrs\CYRSACRS
% \cyrschwa\CYRSCHWA\cyrsdsc\CYRSDSC\cyrsemisftsn\CYRSEMISFTSN
% \cyrsftsn\CYRSFTSN\cyrsh\CYRSH\cyrshch\CYRSHCH\cyrshha\CYRSHHA
% \cyrt\CYRT\cyrtdsc\CYRTDSC\cyrtetse\CYRTETSE\cyrtshe\CYRTSHE
% \cyru\CYRU\cyrushrt\CYRUSHRT\cyrv\CYRV\cyrw\CYRW\cyry\CYRY
% \cyrya\CYRYA\cyryat\CYRYAT\cyryhcrs\CYRYHCRS\cyryi\CYRYI\cyryo
% \CYRYO\cyryu\CYRYU\cyrz\CYRZ\cyrzdsc\CYRZDSC\cyrzh\CYRZH
% \cyrzhdsc\CYRZHDSC
}%
\end{document}
On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 10:06 PM, Alex Degtyarev via MiKTeX-Users <
miktex-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> Sorry, I posted it to a wrong list. :( The problem is not on the TeX's
> side, but I'm not sure that I can remove my post from this list.
> Accidentally, your example wouldn't solve it as it uses utf8 :)
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bostjan Vilfan [mailto:bjvil...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 4:00 PM
> > To: A place for MiKTeX users to discuss MiKTeX related questions.
> > us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Subject: Re: [MiKTeX] Read/write translation with Cyrillic
> >
> > I'm not sure what the problem is. The following works quite well:
> > Regards, BV
> >
> > -*- mode: LaTeX; coding:
> > utf-8; -*-
> > %%% Moroz_koi koi.tex %%%
> >
> > %%
> > %% Date: 9-Aug-2002
> > %% Author: wd (wolfgang.dob...@ncl.ac.uk) %
> >
> > \documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article}
> >
> > \usepackage[T2A]{fontenc}
> > \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} % older versions of ucs package
> > %\usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} % more recent versions (at
> least>=2004-17-10)
> > \usepackage[russian]{babel}
> >
> > \sloppy % Hyphenation is a problem..
> >
> > \author{A. S. Pushkin}
> > \title{Зимнее утро (winter morning)}
> >
> > \begin{document}
> > \maketitle
> >
> > \section{A section}
> >
> > \noindent
> > Мороз и солнце, день чудесный!\\
> > Ещё ты дремлешь, друг прелестный?\\
> > Пора, красавица, проснись!
> >
> > \subsection{Accented characters}
> > You can still use accents and diacritica as usual:
> > \begin{quote}
> > Übermäßiger Likörgenuss in der Öffentlichkeit führt
> > zu Ärger
> > \end{quote}
> > \begin{quote}
> > Être ou ne pas être --- c'est une question très intéressante
> > en Français
> > \end{quote}
> >
> > \subsection{Шрифты}
> > {\sc Конечно} {\bf все} {\em варианты} {\TeX}овских {\sl шрифтов}
> доступны
> > и с {\sf кириллицей}.
> >
> > \end{document}
> >
> > %% Emacs-Mule quick reference:
> > %% C-\ toggles input
Re: [MiKTeX] Read/write translation with Cyrillic
I'm not sure what the problem is. The following works quite well:
Regards, BV
-*- mode: LaTeX; coding: utf-8; -*-
%%% Moroz_koi koi.tex %%%
%%
%% Date: 9-Aug-2002
%% Author: wd (wolfgang.dob...@ncl.ac.uk)
%
\documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{article}
\usepackage[T2A]{fontenc}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} % older versions of ucs package
%\usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} % more recent versions (at least>=2004-17-10)
\usepackage[russian]{babel}
\sloppy % Hyphenation is a problem..
\author{A. S. Pushkin}
\title{Зимнее утро (winter morning)}
\begin{document}
\maketitle
\section{A section}
\noindent
Мороз и солнце, день чудесный!\\
Ещё ты дремлешь, друг прелестный?\\
Пора, красавица, проснись!
\subsection{Accented characters}
You can still use accents and diacritica as usual:
\begin{quote}
Übermäßiger Likörgenuss in der Öffentlichkeit führt
zu Ärger
\end{quote}
\begin{quote}
Être ou ne pas être --- c'est une question très intéressante
en Français
\end{quote}
\subsection{Шрифты}
{\sc Конечно} {\bf все} {\em варианты} {\TeX}овских {\sl шрифтов}
доступны и с {\sf кириллицей}.
\end{document}
%% Emacs-Mule quick reference:
%% C-\ toggles input methods (cyrillic/ascii)
%% C-x RET C-\ switches to (yet) another input method
%% C-x RET f changes the buffer-coding system
% Make Emacs switch to russian keyboard layout
%
%% [Better not to use this 1] Local Variables:
%% [Better not to use this 2] eval: (set-input-method 'cyrillic-jcuken)
%% [Better not to use this 3] End:
On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 1:01 AM, Alex Degtyarev via MiKTeX-Users <
miktex-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> There seems to have been an unpleasant change in the default configuration.
>
> Occasionally, I have to write things in Russian. For an obvious
> compatibility reason, I prefer to keep my files in the plain text format,
> switching to the CP1251 in the editors and relying upon TeX and Babel that
> do the job perfectly well. Last time I did that (a few months ago)
> everything was perfect: the file was ASCII while WinEdt was showing it with
> the correct codepage. However, today, when I tried to open one of the old
> files, changed CP to 1251 and hit "Reload", I got a mess like this:
> \`{A}\^{a}\`{o}\^{\i}р \`{e}\c{c}\'{o}ч\`{a}{\aa}\`{o} \`{o}р\`{e} ...
> This has obviously something to do with the TeX settings, as I have
> recently
> tried to use WinEdt to recode other (non TeX) files to Unicode and
> everything worked well. A quick check shows that I don't have any unusual
> read/write translation tables enabled except the most common ones, with
> accented Latin characters (which would be supposed to work the opposite way
> anyway). If I just load the file without changing the CP (or open it in
> notepad), it looks like a typical Russian text in the Latin codepage, as
> it's supposed to.
>
> So, to make my complaint clear, I want to keep an ASCII TeX-file on the
> disk
> and edit it in a codepage of my choice. Alex, how can I fix this? And,
> please, don't make such drastic changes without announcing them in bold red
> font next to the download link!
>
> Best regards,
> Alex
>
> P.S. Some other things have been broken, too. E.g., it appears that the new
> compilation script does not call the old one, so the automatic format
> detection has been broken and, apparently, has to be rewritten from the
> scratch. But this I can live with...
>
>
>
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