Re: Mailing list size
"Dominic A. V. Amann" wrote: Although I like mailing lists, I am beginning to see a pattern. A list becomes useful at around 5-20 daily contributions. At around 30+, I glaze over and skip tons of stuff, wishing it would end already. modperl is well over that limit, and I now have to unsubscribe just to keep my day productive. Also, I perceive that signal to noise is diminishing with increasing size. Perhaps it is time to further specialize the list into sub-topics? Hrmm, rather than divide the list I think it is better to develop advanced scan-and-delete techniques for mailing lists. I filter all mod_perl mail into one folder. Anything about modules that I don't care about, like Embperl, ASP, and Mason goes straight into the trash bin. Anything that mentions Apache::Session goes to a special folder. All other mails get their subjects read but little else. Another advantage of this method is that I can deal with mod_perl email one a weekly or even monthly basis, instead of daily. Notice how Doug MacEachern uses this list. He posts about 50 messages at once, but infrequently. In any case, I think you can deal with it on your end without reducing the value of the list for rank newbies. Regards, Jeffrey
Re: Mailing list size
On 05-Dec-1999 Craig Shaver wrote: I think it would be a good idea to break out the embperl stuff. "Dominic A. V. Amann" wrote: Although I like mailing lists, I am beginning to see a pattern. A list becomes useful at around 5-20 daily contributions. At around 30+, I glaze over and skip tons of stuff, wishing it would end already. modperl is well over that limit, and I now have to unsubscribe just to keep my day productive. Also, I perceive that signal to noise is diminishing with increasing size. Perhaps it is time to further specialize the list into sub-topics? As a newbie (and lurker on the list) just beginning to learn advanced perl, mod_perl, embperl, and many of the other perl modules available, I read almost everything on the list. It is just a way of not only learning mod_perl, but to see how it integrates with everything else. It is not necessary to read every single message. Just scan the subjects... if you see a pointless thread or flame war, just select those and press 'd'. Or set up filters... If you want to see an example of list breakup, look at how many debian lists there are. Regards, Wim Kerkhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.canadianhomes.net/wim
Mailing list size
Although I like mailing lists, I am beginning to see a pattern. A list becomes useful at around 5-20 daily contributions. At around 30+, I glaze over and skip tons of stuff, wishing it would end already. modperl is well over that limit, and I now have to unsubscribe just to keep my day productive. Also, I perceive that signal to noise is diminishing with increasing size. Perhaps it is time to further specialize the list into sub-topics? -- Dominic Amann, http://www.interlog.com/~damann/ Linux Based Solutions Ltd. Toronto, ON, M3J 1G8, Canada Tel: (416) 638-8649, Fax: (416) 630-1584
Re: Mailing list size
I think whenever you get advocacy posts then you see a flurry of posts. If you don't like those types of posts, you usually pretty quickly identify them by topic (currently it is the mod_perl programmers are in demand subject line).. and can filter out...Delete delete delete... I may be wrong, but I think the amount of techie info that flows across this list is less than 20 typically? Or am I wrong? Absolutely correct, it's 20. And it's a rear occasion when we talk about non-technical, yet interesting and important topics... so please don't get intimidated... "Dominic A. V. Amann" wrote: Although I like mailing lists, I am beginning to see a pattern. A list becomes useful at around 5-20 daily contributions. At around 30+, I glaze over and skip tons of stuff, wishing it would end already. modperl is well over that limit, and I now have to unsubscribe just to keep my day productive. Also, I perceive that signal to noise is diminishing with increasing size. Perhaps it is time to further specialize the list into sub-topics? -- Dominic Amann, http://www.interlog.com/~damann/ Linux Based Solutions Ltd. Toronto, ON, M3J 1G8, Canada Tel: (416) 638-8649, Fax: (416) 630-1584 ___ Stas Bekman mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.singlesheaven.com/stas Perl,CGI,Apache,Linux,Web,Java,PC at www.singlesheaven.com/stas/TULARC www.apache.org www.perl.com == www.modperl.com || perl.apache.org single o- + single o-+ = singlesheavenhttp://www.singlesheaven.com
Re: Mailing list size
Stas is right, I've been mass-deleting the "logo" and "demand" threads for several days, resulting in a quite manageable list. The nice thing is, you can always search the archive if you accidentally delete something (and you *should* search the archive before posting, anyway, as well as check the Guide). Stas Bekman wrote: I think whenever you get advocacy posts then you see a flurry of posts. If you don't like those types of posts, you usually pretty quickly identify them by topic... Absolutely correct, it's 20. And it's a rear occasion when we talk about non-technical, yet interesting and important topics... so please don't get intimidated...
Re: Mailing list size
Have to be honest and say that compared to other mailing lists I'm on, this one is the most professional and personal I've seen. From: Eric Strovink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: mod_perl list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mailing list size Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 12:08:43 -0500 Stas is right, I've been mass-deleting the "logo" and "demand" threads for several days, resulting in a quite manageable list. The nice thing is, you can always search the archive if you accidentally delete something (and you *should* search the archive before posting, anyway, as well as check the Guide). Stas Bekman wrote: I think whenever you get advocacy posts then you see a flurry of posts. If you don't like those types of posts, you usually pretty quickly identify them by topic... Absolutely correct, it's 20. And it's a rear occasion when we talk about non-technical, yet interesting and important topics... so please don't get intimidated... __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Mailing list size
On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Anthony Gardner wrote: Have to be honest and say that compared to other mailing lists I'm on, this one is the most professional and personal I've seen. Thank you. From all of us, I'm sure. On a technical (if not topical) point it would ease network traffic and the pressure on my left middle finger (the one that types `d') if we could all try to avoid double-shotting the people we know are on the list. There's no point me sending mail to Stas and copying it to the mod-perl list as well, I know he'll get a copy if I just send it to the list. Point two, some of the emails seem to have heaps of HTML and other baggage hanging onto them. These usually double the size of the message and often they dwarf it. Please check that your MUA isn't sending things unnecessarily. I hope mine isn't... 73 Ged Haywood.
