Re: preventing client certs to be used by multiple users??

2005-09-01 Thread Daniel Kimblad

- Original Message - 
From: Conrad Friedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: modssl-users@modssl.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:49 PM
Subject: preventing client certs to be used by multiple users??


 Hello,
 Is there a way to prevent users (that got a client ssl-certificate
(pkcs12)
 for accessing my server) from giving their certs away to others and in
that
 way enabling unwanted users access to my site?
 Or if there is no elegant solution, maybe someone knows how apache (or a
log
 analyzer etc.) can inform me if two different IPs have tried to connect
 simultaneously using the same certificate?

 Many thanks
 Conrad Friedrich

The other replies pretty much says it all. If you're trying to prevent
people from sharing their access to your data then have them sign
some papers instead.
Certificates and login credentials just won't do that for you.

/Daniel


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preventing client certs to be used by multiple users??

2005-08-31 Thread Conrad Friedrich
Hello,
Is there a way to prevent users (that got a client ssl-certificate (pkcs12) 
for accessing my server) from giving their certs away to others and in that 
way enabling unwanted users access to my site?
Or if there is no elegant solution, maybe someone knows how apache (or a log 
analyzer etc.) can inform me if two different IPs have tried to connect 
simultaneously using the same certificate?

Many thanks
Conrad Friedrich
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preventing client certs to be used by multiple users??

2005-08-31 Thread Conrad Friedrich
Hello,
Is there a way to prevent users (that got a client ssl-certificate (pkcs12) 
for accessing my server) from giving their certs away to others and in that 
way enabling unwanted users access to my site?
Or if there is no elegant solution, maybe someone knows how apache (or a log 
analyzer etc.) can inform me if two different IPs have tried to connect 
simultaneously using the same certificate?

Many thanks
Conrad Friedrich
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Re: preventing client certs to be used by multiple users??

2005-08-31 Thread Cliff Woolley
On 8/31/05, Conrad Friedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a way to prevent users (that got a client ssl-certificate (pkcs12)
 for accessing my server) from giving their certs away to others and in that
 way enabling unwanted users access to my site?

The client certificate acts as the user's identity.  If the user gives
away his/her identity or the identity is stolen, then someone else can
authenticate to the server using that identity, and that's just the
way it is.  This is no different than a username/password means of
establishing user identity, really, except that the user has perhaps
better ways to protect a client certificate than he does a
username/password.  If the user intentionally gives away the
certificate, there's nothing you can do about it.

 Or if there is no elegant solution, maybe someone knows how apache (or a log
 analyzer etc.) can inform me if two different IPs have tried to connect
 simultaneously using the same certificate?

I haven't seen any such tool but that doesn't mean there isn't one out
there.  Anybody else heard of such a thing?

--Cliff
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