Re: A question of permissions

[Matt S Trout]

Right, we're in touch off list this time, so we can now take this extended
episode of 'communication is hard' somewhere else. Sorry for the noise,
everybody.

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Re: A question of permissions

[Buddy Burden]

Matt,


I am perfectly willing to continue this conversation off list if you wish
to, ...


Yes, let's.


-- Buddy

Re: A question of permissions

[Matt S Trout]

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:19:13AM +0200, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
> * Matt S Trout  [2016-05-11 20:23]:
> > Were I you, I'd simply take the evidence as available:
> >
> >   - At least four people thought your comment was phrased unkindly
> >   - At least one person thought your comment was phrased fine
> 
> I cringed at the comment, but I also realised this was because I know
> that Neil is in a position to know what he is talking about. I guessed
> that Buddy simply did not, and I assumed the comment would have passed
> by unnoticed if it had been directed at some random subscriber helping
> out, so I thought it best not to make a fuss of it myself on behalf of
> Neil without asking him, and to leave it to Neil whether he wanted the
> point addressed.

I assumed Neil was too nice to ask for that.

Then again, I also assumed Buddy would say "huh, that totally wasn't what I
was intending to convey, my apologies to Neil if he read it that way" and
move on.

Some days people make no sense to me at all (and the rest of the time I think
I understand but have a pretty mediocre rate at being right about that ;)

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Re: A question of permissions

[Matt S Trout]

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 02:08:06PM -0700, Buddy Burden wrote:
> Okey dokey.  My last word is: I'm saddened that you chose to ignore
> the personal message I sent you off-list.

There's been no off-list message from you to this address.

Please try and consider the possibility that I was genuinely just trying
to point out that you'd come across as a dick, since I (perhaps erroneously)
assumed that would be something you'd care about having done, especially if
it was unintentional, rather than inventing a nonexistant personal vendetta
and then accusing me of ignoring emails I didn't receive as a result.

I am perfectly willing to continue this conversation off list if you wish
to, though I'd ask you to stop assuming bad faith on my part if you're going
to since otherwise it's unlikely to be constructive for either of us.

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Re: A question of permissions

[Aristotle Pagaltzis]

* Matt S Trout  [2016-05-11 20:23]:
> Were I you, I'd simply take the evidence as available:
>
>   - At least four people thought your comment was phrased unkindly
>   - At least one person thought your comment was phrased fine

I cringed at the comment, but I also realised this was because I know
that Neil is in a position to know what he is talking about. I guessed
that Buddy simply did not, and I assumed the comment would have passed
by unnoticed if it had been directed at some random subscriber helping
out, so I thought it best not to make a fuss of it myself on behalf of
Neil without asking him, and to leave it to Neil whether he wanted the
point addressed.

Regards,
-- 
Aristotle Pagaltzis //