RE: Please give me COMAINT on https://metacpan.org/release/pyperl

[Konovalov, Vadim]

> It is just a mirror of the mageia .src.rpm.
> I'll compare it to the other two repositories. Thanks! I don't mind someone
> else comainting or taking over:

Actually I had a plans to update the module, but then I somewhat lost an 
interest in it.

However if community thinks that this module would be useful - I will bring it 
up-to-date.
At least I made it work on windows with python 2 and 3, so I can revive my 
effort on this.

Best regards,
Vadim

> 
> Shlomi Fish

RE: Please give me COMAINT on https://metacpan.org/release/pyperl

[Konovalov, Vadim]

There are also 
https://github.com/proyvind/pyperl
https://github.com/vadrer/python-perl
...which are useful

So your update is at 
https://www.shlomifish.org/Files/files/dirs/python-perlmodule/SOURCES/ ? what 
it can currently do? Do you plan to place it to github?

-Original Message-
From: Shlomi Fish  
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 4:04 PM
To: modu...@perl.org; Perl Module Authors List
Subject: Re: Please give me COMAINT on https://metacpan.org/release/pyperl


[EXTERNAL EMAIL] 

Hi all!

ping! any news/reply.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 1:40 PM Shlomi Fish  wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> The author has been inactive since 2016, and I want to resurrect it 
> and apply patches from 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.shlomifish.org/Files/files/dir
> s/python-perlmodule/__;!!LpKI!1XWhqwtxqzOviHEnXY-z7nA8jZ9sMYImsQGNVCchVEeSL93dig50p3UdIPh2BAgOJTs-$
>  [shlomifish[.]org] . I plan of looking into using 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://template-toolkit.org/__;!!LpKI!1XWhqwtxqzOviHEnXY-z7nA8jZ9sMYImsQGNVCchVEeSL93dig50p3UdIPh2BEAqlsB0$
>  [template-toolkit[.]org] from python code due to being unhappy with jinja2's 
> scoping.
>
> My CPAN ID is 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://metacpan.org/author/SHLOMIF__;!!LpKI!1XWhqwtxqzOviHEnXY-z7nA8jZ9sMYImsQGNVCchVEeSL93dig50p3UdIPh2BI_5YDWw$
>  [metacpan[.]org] .
>
> Regards,
>
> -- Shlomi
>
>
> --
> Shlomi Fish 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.shlomifish.org/__;!!LpKI!1XWhq
> wtxqzOviHEnXY-z7nA8jZ9sMYImsQGNVCchVEeSL93dig50p3UdIPh2BOX8Dr8O$ 
> [shlomifish[.]org]
>
> Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature.
>
> Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - 
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>  [shlom[.]in] .



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 [shlomifish[.]org]

Buddha has the Chuck Norris nature.

Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - 
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 [shlom[.]in] .

RE: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs

[Konovalov, Vadim]

Ok, thanks for the detailed explanations and for the link to the perl 
conference, I will consider joining the even (ticket is permissive, so I’m 
50-50 now )

It was a tendency in ~10 years ago about modernization of perl by adding “use 
strict;” and “use warnings;” everywhere.

Could it be consider modern already, so that it now has these “use strict; use 
warnings;” but does not have webassembly (WebPerl), and also deprecated 
threading?

And warnings.pm is too bloated, to my taste.


From: Nicolas Rochelemagne 
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2020 12:33 AM
To: Konovalov, Vadim
Cc: Nicolas R.; gisle@it.uib.no; module-authors@perl.org
Subject: Re: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs


[EXTERNAL EMAIL]
Thanks for your feedback. I trend to agree with you it looks stupid and seems 
to have a very low value by itself at first glance .
Nevertheless I do not see how this can be harmful to enable 'strict and 
warnings' while running unit tests. I think it could help understand issues 
reported by users when trying to install the distribution.

The Perl community is considering enabling strict and warnings as default in 
the future. As this distribution is shipped with perl itself [dual life], 
making sure the test suite is working correctly with strict and warnings, is a 
first step to make sure we can run the perl testsuite without any issues.

I would recommend you to check the coming "Conference in the Cloud" next week 
to get more details about it.
https://perlconference.us/tpc-2020-cloud/

Hope this helps you understand the reason for these pull requests.
I would like to understand what are the reasons to not consider such an update?

sincerely
nicolas

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 1:54 PM Konovalov, Vadim 
mailto:vadim.konova...@dell.com>> wrote:
The “Enable strict and warnings on all 
tests<https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pull/8>” is soo stupid

It is no modernization, it is just plain stupod

From: Nicolas R. mailto:nico...@atoomic.org>>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:03 AM
To: gisle@it.uib.no<mailto:gisle@it.uib.no>
Cc: module-authors@perl.org<mailto:module-authors@perl.org>
Subject: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs


[EXTERNAL EMAIL]
Hi Gisle, I've submitted a few extra Pull Requests to Mime-Base64 today and 
realized that I've some PRs opened since 2017 that have no feedbacks.

https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pulls

I was wondering if you need help for the maintenance of Mime-Base64.
If so I would gladly take co-maint on the module and help releasing updates.

Please let me know

sincerely
nicolas

RE: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs

[Konovalov, Vadim]

The “Enable strict and warnings on all 
tests” is soo stupid

It is no modernization, it is just plain stupod

From: Nicolas R. 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:03 AM
To: gisle@it.uib.no
Cc: module-authors@perl.org
Subject: Mime-Base64 Pending PRs


[EXTERNAL EMAIL]
Hi Gisle, I've submitted a few extra Pull Requests to Mime-Base64 today and 
realized that I've some PRs opened since 2017 that have no feedbacks.

https://github.com/gisle/mime-base64/pulls

I was wondering if you need help for the maintenance of Mime-Base64.
If so I would gladly take co-maint on the module and help releasing updates.

Please let me know

sincerely
nicolas

RE: mentioning module's discussion mailing list

[Konovalov, Vadim]

  Is it safe to mention discussion mailing list having form
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] in CPAN module?
 
 I’m not sure I follow. “Safe” in what sense?

I mean harmless to everybody - mostly for administrators of lists on
'perl.org' domain related to a module, and may be for a readers.

 
  I mean, if I'll invite people asking questions at
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], will it add a headache for people filtering
  spam?
 
 Not sure I follow, again. Why would it be a spam filtering
 headache, and for whom, exactly?

For some reasons, neither perl5porters mailing list, nor any list on
perl.org are flooded with spam. I think this is due to some efforts behind
the scenes.

I want to know what is a common practice for module authors to be good
citizens and not to provoke spammers to add given mailing address to their
purposes.

Vadim.

RE: CPAN::Forum

[Konovalov, Vadim]

  The same hack as rt.cpan.org uses - attempt a login on 
 pause.cpan.org
  using the ID and password provided. If PAUSE accepts it, 
 then you know
  it's the real thing.
  
  That would mean my server if cracked could be used to collect PAUSE
  passwords. I am not sure I'd like to have that responsibility.
 
 No, because you don't keep passwords. You do the auth back to 
 PAUSE as you
 need it, and then merely record in your site's state that you did it.

I thought a special forum for discussing modules should be used not by
authors themselves who have CPAN ID, but with any module users who want to
discuss module properties.

So, in my opinion, no CPAN authentification should happen.

Best regards,
Vadim (VKON)

Can I edit my posts on CPAN::Forum to (hopefully) improve them?

[Konovalov, Vadim]

subj

TIA,
VKON

how do I ask for perl.org community to support mailing list for a CPAN module?

[Konovalov, Vadim]

Dear all,

CPAN FAQ at http://www.cpan.org/misc/cpan-faq.html has information about
mailing list:
quote
Many of the lists are open for general subscription. If you don't see a list
that interests you and would like to start your own you may ask
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to set one up for you if you cannot host it yourself.
/quote

Looks like mentioned address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exists, however.

Whom should I talk to convince help me in this matter?

My CPAN ID is VKON, I am maintaining Tcl::Tk module
I am pretty sure this module has very good potential.
I can provide many arguments to support  this point of view:
  http://mini.net/tcl/13208
  http://www.vkonovalov.ru/perlce-tcltk.htm
 
http://www.vkonovalov.ru/vtcl-usage/Using_vtcl_for_creating_Tcl-Tk_GUI_for_P
erl.html
  http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=426089
  http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=416925
I can provide any kind of other explanations if you need more details.

I will really appreciate your help,

Best regards,
Vadim.

RE: how do I ask for perl.org community to support mailing list f or a CPAN module?

[Konovalov, Vadim]

My request was resolved recently by Ask Bjorn Hansen, 
thank you all!

 Dear all,
 
 CPAN FAQ at http://www.cpan.org/misc/cpan-faq.html has 
 information about
 mailing list:
 quote
 Many of the lists are open for general subscription. If you 
 don't see a list
 that interests you and would like to start your own you may ask
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to set one up for you if you cannot host it yourself.
 /quote
 
 Looks like mentioned address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exists, however.
 
 Whom should I talk to convince help me in this matter?
 
 My CPAN ID is VKON, I am maintaining Tcl::Tk module
 I am pretty sure this module has very good potential.
 I can provide many arguments to support  this point of view:
   http://mini.net/tcl/13208
   http://www.vkonovalov.ru/perlce-tcltk.htm
  
 http://www.vkonovalov.ru/vtcl-usage/Using_vtcl_for_creating_Tc
 l-Tk_GUI_for_P
 erl.html
   http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=426089
   http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=416925
 I can provide any kind of other explanations if you need more details.
 
 I will really appreciate your help,
 
 Best regards,
 Vadim.
 

RE: Perl's Sacrifice Stone

[Konovalov, Vadim]

 I started a vonlontary review on Perl Monks. I don't know if 

What is your URL?


 it's the best
 place but since they have reviews I thought it would be a 
 good place to
 start with (and I couldn't think of a better place). It 

PerlMonks site is quite conservative, so they will probably not reorganize
one of their sections. Rather they will convince you to live with elder
system, and they're strong at that.

Vadim.

How do I prohibit analyzis for packages for certain files on CPAN upload?

[Konovalov, Vadim]

Dear all,

the problem is following.

My distribution has demo file that has some package defined inside it.
Then I upload a distribution to CPAN.
After that system tries to identify packages names even for files that I do
not want to. And create READMEs and documentation for what I also do not
want to.

How do I control this?

Best regards,
Vadim Konovalov,
+7(812)3298522
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

RE: Tk usage with / from perl in Cygwin env

[Konovalov, Vadim]

Another option for you to try is using Tcl::Tk module from CPAN which uses
existing Tcl/Tk installation and therefore should be easier to use, because
its tiny.

 -Original Message-
 From: linda w [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 4:24 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Tk usage with / from perl in Cygwin env
 
 
 Has anyone tried using Tk from perl?
 
 I was using a simple script example that used Tk for graphics 
 interaction.
 It wouldn't run because it wanted Tk, so I cpanned / 
 downloaded the Tk perl
 libs and ran an a make and got:
 /bin/perl.exe /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.2/ExtUtils/xsubpp  -typemap 
 /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.
 2/ExtUtils/typemap -typemap 
 //ishtar/share/CPAN/build-win/Tk-804.025_beta14/Tk/t
 ypemap  Xlib.xs  Xlib.xsc  mv Xlib.xsc Xlib.c
 gcc -c  -I.. -I../pTk/mTk/xlib -DPERL_USE_SAFE_PUTENV 
 -fno-strict-aliasing -DUSE
 IMPORTLIB -O2   -DVERSION=\804.025\ -DXS_VERSION=\804.025\  
 -I/usr/lib/perl
 5/5.8.2/cygwin-thread-multi-64int/CORE  -D__WIN32__ -D_WIN32 -Wall 
 -Wno-implici
 t-int -Wno-comment -Wno-unused -D__USE_FIXED_PROTOTYPES__ Xlib.c
 Xlib.xs:13: error: syntax error before '*' token
 Xlib.xs:13: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
 Xlib.xs: In function `boot_Tk__Xlib':
 Xlib.xs:378: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
 Xlib.xs:378: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
 Xlib.xs:378: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
 Xlib.xs:378: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
 Xlib.xs:378: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
 Xlib.xs:378: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
 Xlib.xs:378: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
 Xlib.xs:378: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
 Xlib.xs:378: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
 Xlib.xs:378: error: `XlibVtab' undeclared (first use in this function)
 Xlib.xs:378: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
 Xlib.xs:378: error: for each function it appears in.)
 Xlib.xs:378: error: syntax error before ')' token
 make[1]: *** [Xlib.o] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory 
 `//ishtar/share/CPAN/build-win/Tk-804.025_beta14/Xlib
 '
 make: *** [subdirs] Error 2
   /usr/bin/make  -- NOT OK
 Running make test
   Can't test without successful make
 Running make install
   make had returned bad status, install seems impossible
 
 My perl -V shows:
 Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 8 subversion 2) 
 configuration:
   Platform:
 osname=cygwin, osvers=1.5.5(0.9432), 
 archname=cygwin-thread-multi-64int
 uname='cygwin_nt-5.0 troubardix 1.5.5(0.9432) 2003-09-20 
 16:31 i686 
 unknown
 unknown cygwin '
 config_args='-de -Dmksymlinks -Duse64bitint -Dusethreads 
 -Doptimize=-O2 -Dma
 n3ext=3pm'
 hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
 usethreads=define use5005threads=undef useithreads=define 
 usemultiplicity=de
 fine
 useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef
 use64bitint=define use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
 usemymalloc=y, bincompat5005=undef
   Compiler:
 cc='gcc', ccflags ='-DPERL_USE_SAFE_PUTENV -fno-strict-aliasing',
 optimize='-O2',
 cppflags='-DPERL_USE_SAFE_PUTENV -fno-strict-aliasing'
 ccversion='', gccversion='3.3.1 (cygming special)', 
 gccosandvers=''
 intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=12345678
 d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, 
 longdblsize=12
 ivtype='long long', ivsize=8, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, 
 Off_t='off_t', lsee
 ksize=8
 alignbytes=8, prototype=define
   Linker and Libraries:
 ld='ld2', ldflags =' -s -L/usr/local/lib'
 libpth=/usr/local/lib /usr/lib /lib
 libs=-lgdbm -ldb -lcrypt -lgdbm_compat
 perllibs=-lcrypt -lgdbm_compat
 libc=/usr/lib/libc.a, so=dll, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.a
 gnulibc_version=''
   Dynamic Linking:
 dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=dll, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' -s'
 cccdlflags=' ', lddlflags=' -s -L/usr/local/lib'
 
 
 Characteristics of this binary (from libperl):
   Compile-time options: MULTIPLICITY USE_ITHREADS USE_64_BIT_INT 
 USE_LARGE_FILES
  PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT
   Built under cygwin
   Compiled at Nov  7 2003 12:06:28
   %ENV:
 PERL5LIB=/usr/local/lib/perl/5.8
 CYGWIN=
   @INC:
 /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8
 /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.2/cygwin-thread-multi-64int
 /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.2
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2/cygwin-thread-multi-64int
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
 .
 
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