[Mpls] Boston Globe Minneapolis Issues list

2002-10-15 Thread paul weir
Title: Boston Globe  Minneapolis Issues
list






What's the equivalent for online discussion? It
might well be the use of the Internet to facilitate small group
conversation where everyone involved has a stake in a productive
exchange. This approach has proved fruitful in several
neighborhood-based discussion groups; indeed, the mayor of
Minneapolis, R. T. Rybak, says he decided to run for office because of
the Minneapolis-Issues list, an e-mail discussion list dedicated to
local political matters that Rybak initially participated in simply as
an avid poster. Gradually he made online friends, and, as the
discussion of the city's problems evolved, they persuaded him to run
and then helped him win.

This
rather flattering description of y'all can be found in the October 13
edition of the Boston Globe, in an article by Nicholas Thompson in the
Ideas section entitled Freedom to flame. (I'm
utterly hopeless on a computer, hence I'm unable to provide a hot
link.) As the title of the article implies, flaming has driven out
intelligent talk from most political and public policy forums. But
since this list is a conspicuous exception, congratulations seem
to be in order. Nice going, folks, and special thanks to the List
Manager.

Paul Weir
Phillips



RE: [Mpls] Boston Globe Minneapolis Issues list

2002-10-15 Thread List Manager

Paul Weir writes:

This rather flattering description of y'all can be found in the October
13 edition of the Boston Globe, in an article by Nicholas Thompson in
the Ideas section entitled Freedom to flame. (I'm utterly hopeless
on a computer, hence I'm unable to provide a hot link.) As the title of
the article implies, flaming has driven out intelligent talk from most
political and public policy forums. But since this list is  a
conspicuous exception, congratulations seem to be in order. Nice going,
folks, and special thanks to the List Manager.

Me:

Thanks for the thanks Paul - although I think the story may give us a
bit too much credit (and I'm not sure my recent posts about my garage
mark a list high point, either). However, the story amply illustrates
what our rules try to avoid.

Anyway, here's the Globe link - they're pretty aggressive about charging
so it may not be free for long. If the link breaks, the story is at
http://www.boston.com/globe/, toward the bottom of the page under
Ideas, as of early this morning.

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/286/focus/Freedom_to_flame+.shtml

David Brauer
List manager

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Re: [Mpls] Garages and Politics

2002-10-15 Thread Susan Maricle

 Catherine Leighton
 Live in Longfellow/Work North East writes:

My household also sports a truck that one of my sons
uses for work.  He's in construction, travels
throughout the metro area, and carries tools and
materials to jobs.  I don't see an alternative to
his mode of transportation but I am quite sure that he
is offending more than a  few list members.  

sm:
On our block in Folwell, we were blessed/cursed with
the only driveway on the block. Blessed because it
provided offstreet parking. And cursed because in a
two-vehicle household, a one-lane driveway {especially
a long, narrow one} was virtually useless. 

Like Catherine's son, my husband works in lawn
service, and regularly drove a truck with a small
trailer attached. Drivers would regularly park their
vehicles immediately up to either side or directly
across from it...which is legal, but made it
impossible for my husband to get out.  If I parked on
the street so I wouldn't block the truck, which was
about to leave, I would be excoriated by the
neighbors. We were probably seen as being wasteful and
greedy. But the parking space just didn't serve our
purposes.

Someone mentioned that parking issues can almost lead
to police action. I can relate to that too! It took
forever to shovel out our driveway during the
Halloween blizzard. A few minutes later, I found a
stranger's parked car in it. I still remember
screaming up and down the deserted block, WHOSE CAR
IS THIS!!!?

It'll be interesting to see how this issue works out.
Having a garage is only half the puzzle...you need
reliable access to it as well.  

Susan Maricle
Bruno, MN
whose pole shed can't be used for parking because the
chickens have taken it over



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Re: [Mpls] Property Taxes Due Tomorrow - One bit of good news

2002-10-15 Thread S Cracraft Fehler

List,
To answer Ms. Heller's question, on the surface, I say
*no*.  There are lots of talented seniors out there
with time on their hands.  Of course not all seniors
can work, but if they want to and it reduces their tax
bill, way not make it *an* options for them?
Sheila Cracraft Fehler
Standish
O
--- Victoria Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hennepin County will allow seniors to work off
 their taxes at the rate of
 $7.50 per hour.
 
 Does this send chills down anyone else's spine?
 
 It makes me think of two things:  Slavery and
 Tennessee Ernie Ford's
 classic line ..another day older and deeper in
 debt.
 
 Vicky Heller
 North Oaks and Cedar-Riverside
 
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[Mpls] why people don't park in garages

2002-10-15 Thread Sue Ponsford

As someone who's been car shopping for the last few
weeks, I've been constantly reminded of why many folks
don't park in their garages: their cars simply don't
fit. 

Car salesmen get the strangest looks on their faces
when you tell them that you can only look at the low
end of their line because anything larger won't fit in
your garage. It's a good way to keep car payments low
though.

If I needed to store a gas-powered lawnmower in
addition to my little snowblower, I quite literally
would not be able to get my car into the garage.

Sue Ponsford
Bryant



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Re: [Mpls] why people don't park in garages

2002-10-15 Thread WizardMarks

I'm planning to get a garage built next Spring, I hope. My neighbor, 
with his unfailing sense of style, thinks I should built a 4-car garage 
across the back of the lot. This would leave me a 6' x 40' strip of 
yard. but no storage space for bikes--of which we have five or six at 
last count.
So, I pondered that, but decided the only way to pay for it would be to 
make it a three story, put in and elevator and a door on Lake St. and 
offer it as office and commercial space above the garage, putting the 
back yard up on the roof, but then I had to come up with off-street 
parking. There's (fortunately) a dead gas station across the street, so 
I pondered that a minute--which it turns out I didn't have. Hamouti 
Sabri had already bought it.
Then I found out the truth from a builder, it's gonna cost $17,000 to 
build any garage since I have to lower the back yard 18, which means I 
have to dig up the cystern, happily install in nineteen and ought twelve 
as part of the original equipment for the house. Then I have to get a 
variance because my house is long and I will not maintain the 15' 
between house and garage required by the city.

So I'm looking for a new car. I want a compact that will deflate to fit 
inside a case the size of a compact computer. If it weren't for the 
weather I'd be in the market for a magic carpet.
WizardMarks, Central

Sue Ponsford wrote:

As someone who's been car shopping for the last few
weeks, I've been constantly reminded of why many folks
don't park in their garages: their cars simply don't
fit. 

Car salesmen get the strangest looks on their faces
when you tell them that you can only look at the low
end of their line because anything larger won't fit in
your garage. It's a good way to keep car payments low
though.

If I needed to store a gas-powered lawnmower in
addition to my little snowblower, I quite literally
would not be able to get my car into the garage.

Sue Ponsford
Bryant



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[Mpls] Garages and Politics

2002-10-15 Thread ken avidor

Catherine Leighton writes:

 To turn social pressure, including ostracism
against those who drive, as a solution to pollution/congestion/etc. is
distasteful. 

Avidor- I don't agree with demonizing car drivers either. I recognize
that most people have to drive to get to work and shop because
Minneapolis was transformed in the last century into an auto dependent
city. The Star Tribune since Sunday has had an excellent series of
articles and editorials explaining how our elected officials over time
have created the auto dependent metro region we live in.

But that's not to say that there isn't an individual responsibility
regarding car use. We may not all be able to live car-free but most
Minneapolitans can become car-light by planning to reduce unnecessary
car trips and choosing to drive the smallest vehicle they can. Everyone
regardless of whether they walk, bike or take the bus or drive can let
their elected officials know that they want to shift government spending
on car infrastructure to transit.

Technology is not neutral. Cars creates a range of problems that are
often dumped on the least politically powerful in our societythis
creates  social inequity. The individual car driver must be aware of the
tremendous costs of car dependency. I don't think people should be made
guilty because guilt and shame are not very good at transforming people
from passive to active participants in the political process. Anger is
much better.

Is it possible to be against the use of coal and uranium to make
electricity and still use electric lights and computers? Is it possible
to be against airport noise and still travel on Northwest Airlines? We
don't give up our right to be a part of the political process that
effects our lives simply because technology is involved. If we say that
technology is Progress and we cannot challenge or restrict it in any
way, what is left to discuss here or in any public forum?

When I ride in Critical Mass, I am always amazed with how many drivers
honk and wave at us. I think it's a mistake  to think that all car
drivers want to drive. I also think it can be mistake for pro-walk,
pro-bike, pro-transit activists to alienate sympathetic car drivers by
always laying a big, heavy guilt trip on them...it can make us look like
grim-faced puritanical prudes...and we're not!

I like to walk and bike  because it's fun and it would be even more fun
if more car drivers  joined us... that's a message car drivers and
transportation policy makers also need to hear.

Ken Avidor
Kingfield

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RE: [Mpls] I'm scared of your police force

2002-10-15 Thread Amanda Tempel

Below is how Mpls. Startribune covers this issue.  

I included the Mpls. specific points of the article  topics discussed
previously on this thread.

But everyone should read the full story so the link is listed below too.

-Amanda Tempel (NE Park)


http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3365731.html

St. Paul police asked to change policies
Herón Márquez Estrada 
Star Tribune 
  
Published Oct 15, 2002 COPS15 

Mental health advocates meeting with St. Paul police officials today want
new policies for police responding to violent confrontations involving
mentally ill people, but department officials maintain that current
procedures are adequate and effective.

snip.

Mental health advocates want St. Paul to create special crisis intervention
teams similar to those used by Minneapolis police.

They also want officers to receive more training in dealing with the
mentally ill than the half-day provided at the police academy.

snip.

In Minneapolis, about 100 officers have taken 40 hours of mental health
crisis-intervention training. The program was created after three mentally
ill people were killed by officers between December 1999 and November 2000.

St. Paul Deputy Mayor Dennis Flaherty said he spoke with Police Chief
William Finney on Monday. While the chief is open to new ideas, he believes
the current system works despite the September shootings, Flaherty said.

Finney would not discuss the matter Monday. But he wrote a newspaper column
this month in which he noted that department officers responded to more than
900 calls involving the mentally ill last year and rarely resorted to deadly
force.

St. Paul does have a psychologist, Sgt. Dennis Conroy, to train officers and
advise Finney on procedures for handling mentally ill suspects. Conroy also
praised department procedures.

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[Mpls] Garages Street Parking

2002-10-15 Thread Anderson, Sue

In the never-ending quest for parking revenue streams, Minneapolis has
de-facto created some permit parking areas. Several blocks around
Abbott-Northwestern and Childrens Hospitals have parking limitations (30
min, 1 hr or 2hr parking) to discourage employee and patient parking on the
streets (thankfully). In order for residents to park on the streets in front
of our homes, we are required to purchase Critical Area parking permits
annually. I suspect this situation exists in other areas of the city where
parking is at a premium or is very limited.

As for requiring garages and basements in new construction, basements make
more sense, providing energy efficiencies and additional mechanical space
for furnaces or laundry facilities, generally considered necessities.
Garages are more problematic as a requirement. Some list-members don't
consider cars necessary for transportation, lot configuration or size makes
placement a challenge for others and some people consider other uses of
limited space more important than a garage. The city shouldn't create a
mandate in a non-necessity area, but allow people to decide what option
works for them (and pay accordingly). A requirement for off-street parking
might be workable with provision for exceptions in unusual circumstances
(ie. alley houses or lot configuration). 

Sue Anderson
garageless in Phillips
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Re: [Mpls] Garages and Politics

2002-10-15 Thread N.S. Gill


 I like to walk and bike  because it's fun and it would be even more fun
 if more car drivers  joined us... that's a message car drivers and
 transportation policy makers also need to hear.


This really isn't in response to this specific thread, but to the
pro-walking threads that keep cropping up.
A month or so ago there was an announcement on morning TV that the mayor's
office would be giving out donuts in celebration of the opening up of one of
the downtown streets that had been blocked by construction all summer. Since
I had been inconvenienced by this blocked zone probably a hundred times in
the course of the construction season (and since I really wanted a Krispy
Kreme), I stopped by at the appropriate hour. I was told the donut program
was only for drivers. If I wouldn't tell anyone, though, they'd give a VERY
crestfallen me a donut anyway. I felt like a cheat and even guiltier than
usual when I devoured the fat-laden nutrition-free confection, but I was
also very angry, which is why I didn't post anything here at the time.
Pedestrians are just as inconvenienced as drivers and need to be considered
in public policy decisions even for something as inconsequential as a gala
celebration of the re-opening of a downtown intersection. Drivers rarely
sprain their ankles when hobbling across construction zones and while they
may suffer no less frequent detours than pedestrians, at least they're
sheltered from inclement weather.


N.S. Gill (pedestrian)
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swap meet, was Re: [Mpls] Garages

2002-10-15 Thread Cara Letofsky



List:

Since moving into our new home in the Cooper neighborhood, our garage has
been full of stuff that we can't find a place for inside the house. So,
let me take this opportunity to offer some good stuff to whomever may want
it:

--a futon frame, with futon
--diningroom set: table, four chairs, two sideboards
--miscellaneous framed art, including a mirror or two
--den-type chair
--bedroom bureau (cherry)
--office table
--miscellaneous political lawn signs ;-)

We are also looking for a few items, in case anyone has them sitting in their
overfull garage:
--a child's table with a chair or two
--a child's easel
--a kid's picnic table

Let's clear out those garages folks! Winter is coming!

--Cara Letofsky
Cooper
a fan of parking on the street, regardless of how full/not full my garage
is

Barbara Lickness wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
  Jim said: "Most of all, WHY do thousands of people with
garages NOT use those garages for sheltering
their cars. In Cooper, virtually every house has
a garage. Yet, MOST of the cars seem to be ON
the street! What, are the garages supersized
yard sheds or something?"
  Barb says: 
  Jim, please come over and have this discussion with my husband.Up
until 2 weeks ago, our garage was a supersized storage shed or should I say
junk yard. My husband is one of those people who likes to collect things.
He brings things home because "we might need it some day", "he got agood
deal on it" or it's just a little broken and could be fixed" etc.(you get
the picture) Ipretty much cured him of bringing these treasures into the
house by relegating the collecting habit to the garage. Two weeks ago we
got a 20 yard dumpster and I am ashamed to say that we filledit with all
the "could a would a should a" collectables my husband putin the garage
during the last 11 years that we couldn't pawn off on anyone else. O.K.
I added a few things from the house too. 
  So now, I willactually get to park in our garage this winter. It's
a first and I suspect will be relatively short lived without intensive nagging.
Fortunately, we have a long driveway so I haven't had to park on the street.
I suspectsome people in Cooper may be collectors too. 
  Barb Lickness/Whittier
  
  
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RE: [Mpls] Garages

2002-10-15 Thread Sonja Dahl

The first time I walked through the little bungalow (I now own), I remember
walking into the kitchen and looking out the window to the back yard.  There
facing the house was the most adorable little garage -- stucco to match the
house, exposed eaves and cedar shingles in the gable end.  My house has the
original 1925 garage on a block where almost every other garage has been
replaced with a 2 or 3 car monstrosity.  I can't fit my car in it, but I
could never tear it down.  

I look at the garage the way I look at the other features of my house -- the
wooden storm windows I have to change out in the spring and fall, the
original kitchen sink that hangs on the wall, the birch kitchen cabinets
that you have to latch and unlatch -- all of these features are inconvenient
but they also make the house what it is.  A lot of people try to get the
best of both worlds -- the charm of an older house with all the mod cons.  I
think they are fooling themselves.  Let the house be what it is.  When
someone chooses an older house they should take on the responsibility of
maintaining the integrity of the house and understand not everything will be
convenient.

Sonja Dahl
Standish-Ericsson
member of the Twin Cities Bungalow Club
http://www.mtn.org/bungalow/
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[Mpls] Garages

2002-10-15 Thread Dave Piehl

When I read the Strib article about requiring garages,
it seemed apparent to me that the motivation behind
the ordinance is to provide a hurdle for new, private
developments, specifically those that are low end
housing options.  I got that insight from the
reference made (I think by Barb Johnson) to the
quality (or lack of quality) in some of the new
construction.  

I believe some of the new construction in the city is
little more than a trailerhouse-on-a-foundation, so
the issue of quality is real, but requiring garages
is, in my opinion, an end-run on the real issue.  A
garage increases the cost of construction, and must
then also increase the sale price - maybe putting the
deal above the monetary means of many first-time
homebuyers who are presumably the buyers of said
construction.

I'm all for good, safe, well constructed housing, so
if city housing code increases the cost of housing it
should be in the interest of providing that. City code
should not be in the business of requiring amenities
without legitimate, solid reasons.  City code requires
indoor plumbing, for example, and that has obvious
health benefits in a densly populated area.  City code
requires windows or doors for each space sufficient to
allow escape in the event of fire, etc.  I really
don't want city code to require that my house have a
hot tub on the basis that some arthritic individuals
(like my mother) benefit physically from a hot tub -
for my mother, it IS a health issue, and doctors even
prescribe it, though she doesn't have one.  That's the
kind of territory this garage issue is in - it may be
an important amenity for some individuals, but there
is certainly nothing about a garage that should be
universally required.  Requiring off-street parking
for new construction would address those areas with
legitimate parking concerns.

David Piehl
Central

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[Mpls] solar panels in Minneapolis

2002-10-15 Thread Dave Piehl


Does anyone on the list have information about the
city of Minneapolis codes regarding solar panels? If
anyone has experienced the process in Minneapolis, I'd
love to hear from you. I've become more interested in
solar power given technology improvements and
environmental concerns, and wonder what it would take
to acquire one in Minneapolis - codes, who's licensed
to do the work in MSP, cost, appropriate technology,
etc.  Any information is appreciated! 

David Piehl
Central

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RE: [Mpls] Garages

2002-10-15 Thread Bob Alberti

I like my neighbor a whole lot.  And his claim to the neighborhood vastly
outmatches my own because he's lived here all his life and is now retired.
He recalls when my house was a hill that he played on as a child.

Anyway a couple years back he says to me I was wondering if you mind if I
tear down my old garage and build a new one.

I told him of course I didn't mind.  I figured, hey, it's his yard, why
should I care if he wants to replace his garage?  Big mistake.

The resulting three-car structure is so large that we occasionally find
Northwest airline pilots wandering through looking for their jets.  His
garage has more floor space than his house.   It's also nicer, having gas
heat, cable, etc.

I'm chagrined because it also blocks out what little sunlight we ever got in
our yard.  But I'm not complaining:  he DID ask, and it's my own darned
fault if I didn't think to say How big?

This all being a roundabout way of asking, if some agency is going to try to
force all new properties to have garages, what's going to prevent the
construction of immense structures that likewise infringe upon the neighbors
view, light, and livability?  From the point of view of the builder, if
you're going to be forced to build a garage, you're probably going to build
the biggest, cheapest thing you can get away with.

Unless construction ordinances are more vigorously enforced than they are
today, how many more of us are going to say goodbye to our southern
exposure, and hello to cheap vinyl siding?

Bob Alberti, President  Sanction, Inc. Data Security
http://www.sanction.netCusp of Longfellow and Seward
A Tempest!  Grab the teabag and hang on for your life!

-Original Message-
From: Sonja Dahl
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:10 AM
 My house has the
 original 1925 garage on a block where almost every other garage has been
 replaced with a 2 or 3 car monstrosity.

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Re: [Mpls] solar panels in Minneapolis

2002-10-15 Thread KHarley471

I would also be interested in Minneapolis codes re solar panels. Also, can anyone 
recommend books on a build-your-own? I believe that I read about such a thing in the 
Whole Earth Catalog years ago.
Thank you.
Kristine Harley
Sheridan
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[Mpls] 1508 Lake Street Revitalization

2002-10-15 Thread MJ Mueller

Dear List,

The following was sent out by Powderhorn Park Neighborhood Association. 
Although it addresses residents of Powderhorn Park etc. I believe it to be a 
Minneapolis issue, so I am posting it here. I urge your support of this 
project. Thanks.

MJ Mueller
Seward

Attention Artists, Residents, Business and Property Owners of the Powderhorn 
Park, Phillips and surrounding neighborhoods:
The much anticipated Neighborhood Multi-Cultural Arts Center is in jeopardy!

Planning for the Center, which would revitalize the vacant building at 1508 
East Lake Street (the former Antiques Minnesota building), has been a 
collaborative effort of In the Heart of the Beast Theatre (HOBT), Midtown 
Phillips neighborhood, Powderhorn Park Neighborhood Association (PPNA), and 
the California Building Company.

The Issue:
With the terms of a purchase agreement (between HOBT and the current owner) 
coming due, expected financial help from the city of Minneapolis has not 
materialized, and could kill the deal.

Background:
Two years ago, Heart of the Beast Theatre requested assistance from PPNA to 
assess potential reuse options for the former Antiques Minnesota building at 
1508 East Lake Street.

Of first concern was HOBT’s need for permanent shop space (they currently 
use the theater space as a shop between productions, removing and replacing 
the seats each time!). A dedicated shop would mean a dedicated theater, 
providing a regional performance space for non-HOBT use as well. The balance 
of the 1508 building was to be built-out as additional retail space for 
artists and expansion space for the Mercado Central.

With PPNA’s help, the California Building Company (a for-profit, arts-based 
property management and developer located on California Street in 
Minneapo-lis) was identified as an appropriate development partner for the 
project. With HOBT, they entered into a purchase agreement for the property 
earlier this year with a tentative closing date of 4 October 2002.

From the beginning of the project, it was known that the project had a 
funding gap of about $600,000. Fortunately, Minneapolis officials (including 
the Mayor and Councilmember from the 6th, 8th and 9th Wards) were very eager 
about the proposal and indicated that the city would do what was necessary 
to make this project happen. And the Midtown Phillips neighborhood committed 
$100,000 of their NRP funds to the project’s funding needs.

Currently:
However, recent discussions with city staff and officials have taken on an 
unex-pected, and decidedly cooler, tone: MCDA has indicated that their staff 
report will recommend against any further city funding (HOBT had requested a 
grant from a fund specifically restricted to non-profit organizations).

Through his attorney, current owner Selwin Ortega has made it known last 
week that he plans to exercise his 30-day non-performance clause of the 
purchase agreement, terminating the sale of the building (and adjacent 
parking lot) to HOBT. He further suggested that he plans to convert the 
structure to a food-product warehouse for his Las Americas grocery stores, 
having recently sold his Fourth  Lake properties for this purpose to the 
Urban Ventures organization. Recent experience suggests that there is 
virtually no neighborhood support for such a proposal.

In contrast, enthusiasm for the Art Center is nearly unanimous, with PPNA, 
East Phillips, Midtown Phillips, Lake Street Council, and the 
Bloomington-Cedar-Lake Commercial Association all on record in strong 
support of HOBT (exemplified by Midtown Phillips’ $100,000 contribution).

What We Ask You To Do:
Say Something Now!
Very simply, call or write to the Mayor and your Councilmember in support of 
the Neighborhood Art Center. Letters have the greatest impact with elected 
officials (as compared to e-mail), because it’s generally recognized as an 
indicator of extreme concern when someone takes the time to pull out pen and 
paper. And a letter expressed in your own words is particularly powerful. So 
use the information in this message, but refrain from word-for-word copies 
as much as possible. I’ve attached a copy of PPNA’s letter to the Mayor for 
your information and to serve as inspiration for what you might say.
Send your letter to:
Mayor R.T. Rybak
Minneapolis City Hall
350 South Fifth Street
Minneapolis, MN 55415
612.673.2100

(City Councilmember’s Name)
Minneapolis City Hall
350 South Fifth Street, Room 307
Minneapolis, MN 55415
612.673.22(Ward number) For example, Dean Zimmermann is 673.2206 (6th Ward)

E-mail is (FirstName.SecondName)@ci.minneapolis.mn.us For example, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The project is located in Ward 6 (Councilmember Dean Zimmermann), but 
borders on Ward 9 (Councilmember Gary Schiff).

We can appreciate the many demands for your time — don’t let our preference 
for a letter keep you from sending an e-mail or making a phone call. In any 
case, don’t hesitate! The 30-day clock began last week. The sooner we make 

RE: [Mpls] solar panels in Minneapolis

2002-10-15 Thread Anderson, Bruce

I just read in Popular Science or Popular Mechanics an article on solar
electricity generation and that some Home Depots will be caring
do-it-yourself solar kits.  I believe the Home Depots were in California,
but perhaps the local ones can order from one of the other stores.  It was
an interesting article and I will see if I can track down the issue. 

Kristine Harley said...
I would also be interested in Minneapolis codes re solar panels. Also, can
anyone recommend books on a build-your-own? I believe that I read about such
a thing in the Whole Earth Catalog years ago.

Bruce Anderson
Blaine
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[Mpls] I'm afraid of your police force

2002-10-15 Thread Renee Jenson



A sad article by Ruben Rosario in yesterday's Pipress about 
his Dona (can't make the wavy line above the n) Otilia.
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/columnists/4278740.htm

"Police Can't Solve All Mental Health Problems"


Renee Jenson[EMAIL PROTECTED]


[Mpls] green bonus density

2002-10-15 Thread John Rocker








Does Minneapolis give bonus density for green
developments?



Heres an excerpt from an article about how Arlington Virginia rewards developers
that create environmentally-friendly buildings. It sounds right up Minneapolis alley.

In
exchange for building more innovative -- and generally more costly -- buildings
in Arlington, developers get more than a pat on the back for
making the world a better place. They get something that, in the real estate
world, is almost as good as cold cash: more space. For each square foot in a
new or renovated building that meets green specifications, for example, a
developer could receive as much as a quarter-square-foot more, known as bonus
density Thanks in part to green design, the Navy League of the United
  States, for example, received county approval to build a new headquarters in
the Courthouse neighborhood with bonus space that amounts to almost half an
extra floor than zoning regulations otherwise would have allowed, according to
its architects.

The complete article can be found at:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A192-2002Oct9.html





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[Mpls] Skyway News Governor Candidates story.

2002-10-15 Thread Paul Lambie

Governor Candidates  Am I the only who thinks that
looks and sounds grammatically incorrect?  Shouldn't
they have used the term gubernatorial?  You can be a
candidate for governor but not a governor
candidate.  Much like one being a senatorial,
presidential, or congressional, candidate rather
than a senator candidate, president candidate, or
congressperson candidate.  

I wonder if the Skyways News didn't have enough space
to spell out the longer word or what?  I wasn't going
to say anything until they used in their headline two
weeks in a row.  BTW, I apologize if, by some strange
stroke, someone else addressed this already.  

Paul Lambie
formerly of Lowry Hill
currently in Apple Valley

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[Mpls] Watch Dog Newspaper

2002-10-15 Thread DMazone

Where can I pick up a copy of the Watch Dog Newspaper?

Denise Mazone
8th Ward Property Owner
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Re: [Mpls] Skyway News Governor Candidates story.

2002-10-15 Thread David Brauer

Paul Lambie writes, of Skyway News headlines:

 Governor Candidates  Am I the only who thinks that
 looks and sounds grammatically incorrect?  Shouldn't
 they have used the term gubernatorial?  You can be a
 candidate for governor but not a governor
 candidate.  Much like one being a senatorial,
 presidential, or congressional, candidate rather
 than a senator candidate, president candidate, or
 congressperson candidate.

First, I appreciate such careful readers.

I think Governor candidates is grammatically correct if, on reflection, a
bit awkward. By the way, I would liken it to Senate candidates, which is
used all the time.

I did a quick Google search and found the following headlines from major
newspapers:

http://www.post-gazette.com/election/20020829debates6.asp
http://www.arizonarepublic.com/arizona/articles/0824GOVREAX0824.html
http://www2.bostonherald.com/news/local_regional/deba06212002.htm
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020814/atw014_1.html

...so at least we have company!

Anyone care to comment on the stuff BELOW the headline?

David Brauer
King Field
Editor, Skyway News

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[Mpls] Re:Maricruz - Developers In Innercity MPLS

2002-10-15 Thread ROBINSON . COOK


Following the tragic death of my next door neighbor's daughter Maricruz on
Monday afternoon, I want to say this is the culmination of a lack of
respect on the part of the construction company and subcontractors who have
been building in the neighborhood for the last 6 months.  I would like to
know if my experience is similar to other projects around the city? Are
they more sensitive in affluent areas of the city?  By poor conduct I cite
the following instances that we as neighbors have complained to the
developer about on several occasions before this accident.

Making deliveries at odd hours of the night - 3:00a.m. 4:00 a.metc. (
The reverse beeping and unloading from a semi truck is very very annoying
and loud at this time in the a.m.).

Beginning Construction at 6:00 a.m. to the displeasure of sleeping
residents. I think noise restrictions are lifted around 7:00 or 7:30 a.m.

Driving onto lawns and damaging boulevards when Semi trucks are to large
for the residential street.

Litter from construction workers during their breaks. ( Shovels, wrappers,
pop cans, signage..etc.)

Now the latest: the haphazard delivery of materials (3:30 a.m. Monday
morning), without any  security fences or barriers around the perimeter.

Unfortunately, the lack of a fence contributed to Mary and her cousin's
playing on the construction materials. Yes, it is easy to say why weren't
the parents paying attention, but believe me I know her family well and
they do watch their kids very closely.  The construction site, however, is
literally across the alley and kids playing tag can get in there in a
matter of seconds, especially as there is no fence or any type of barrier.

I know we are not the first nor the last to have to put up with the
buzzings of development, but I do think that construction in residential
areas should be held to a higher standard especially when there are a lot
of children in close proximity. Just my reflections after a frustrating and
extremely sad 24 hours.

Robinson Cook
Ventura Village


Robinson Cook
U.S. Bank
Corporate Payment Systems
1010 S. 7th Street Minneapolis, MN 55415
Phone: 612-973-6454 FX: 612-973-6856


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Re: [Mpls] why people don't park in garages

2002-10-15 Thread steven meldahl

18 of my single family homes did not have garages behind them when I bought
them in the late 1990s.   After we rehabbed the houses, we sent letters to
our tenants asking them if they would pay an extra $75 per month for a new
22 X 22 garage with door opener.  Every single tenant said they would love
to have a garage for the extra amount and we built them over a 2 year
period.  All  I can say is tenants sure do love garages!

Steve Meldahl
Jordan (work)
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Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:13 AM
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 As someone who's been car shopping for the last few
 weeks, I've been constantly reminded of why many folks
 don't park in their garages: their cars simply don't
 fit.

 Car salesmen get the strangest looks on their faces
 when you tell them that you can only look at the low
 end of their line because anything larger won't fit in
 your garage. It's a good way to keep car payments low
 though.

 If I needed to store a gas-powered lawnmower in
 addition to my little snowblower, I quite literally
 would not be able to get my car into the garage.

 Sue Ponsford
 Bryant



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Re: [Mpls] Re: City budget woes- a microeconomic view from Crack Street North

2002-10-15 Thread Brandon Lacy

Color me shocked.

hehehehehe.

-Brandon Lacy
-Powderhorn Park





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[Mpls] Garages

2002-10-15 Thread Jim Mork

Well, you've given me both thoughts and laughs
--especially WizardMarks in the latter case. 
I've thought in the past that I wish they made a
car like the Isetta or Messerschmidt, designed
for one person just for the parking advantages.
Looks like some of the older garages need that
small a car to get inside. And bigger garages
would have a lot of that much-desired auxilliary
storage space with a one-seater.

Jim Mork
Cooper Neighborhood

=
J P Mork

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working enoughuncompensated overtime.   
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[Mpls] Garages Required?

2002-10-15 Thread Jim Mork

I don't think there should be a garage
requirement either.  After all, a garage is just
a nicety. However, for a car owner, they should
have some kind of SPACE where they can park the
car within their property boundaries.  It could
involve nothing more than stripping off some sod
and putting down some patio tiles or suchlike.
That strikes me as doable by anyone.

Jim Mork
Cooper Neighborhood

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[Mpls] Minneapolis neighborhood entrepreneur makes the Strib

2002-10-15 Thread List Manager

http://www.startribune.com/stories/1069/3365526.html

David Brauer
List manager

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[Mpls] Re: swap meet, garages, and more!

2002-10-15 Thread phaedrus

- - - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (excerpt) - - -
 So, let me take this opportunity to offer some good
 stuff to whomever may want it:
- - - end excerpt - - -

In addition to a tax deductable donation to the ReUse
center, a good local resource for getting rid of stuff
you don't need (or finding stuff you do):

http://www.twincitiesfreemarket.org/

Regarding garages:

I personally like having one (I don't own a car), but
not everyone wants or needs one. Having the city force
people to build one strikes me as a bad idea.

I'm personally annoyed by how many ugly and cheaply
constructed buildings are being put up and would
prefer to see all new constructions be built to last
100 or 500 years as opposed to 20, but we don't have
the right to tell other people (beyond a point) what
they can or cannot do on their own property. This is
preferable to allowing a bureaucracy to have complete
control over what we do. Gated communities may work
for some folks, but not for me (unless, of course, I
get to make the rules).

So instead of forcing people to build garages, in the
spirit of capitalism, let those who use pay. The
problem is not that some people don't have garages.
The problem is that there are less parking spots than
people who want to park. Right now, those spots are
paid for by local taxpayers, whether we use them or
not. There are ways to do it, but assess a cost for
using the resource. If there are more people that want
the resource than spots available, raise the price
until the market balances.

Use some of those proceeds to lower the taxes of
everyone who is currently paying for those parking
spots and consider using additional proceeds to
increase the availability of the resource (parking
ramps, etc.)

Hmm.. could the city partially subsidize a mixed-use
housing development by putting a municipal ramp under
the property and granting the residents and business
owners a discounted parking fee? It wouldn't work for
every situation, but it may work in some new
developments - say a mixed-use library...

Construction needs to meet basic safety standards and
the final product needs to be honestly represented
(yes, these carpets will be outgassing toxic fumes for
the next two months and the walls are good for about
35 years...)

Beyond that, let the market do it's job and keep the
city out of it as much as possible.

. . .

Incidentally, I've been trying to develop a viable
model that would involve some municipal/community
influence over new developments to solve what I see as
a couple problems:

* A development does have an impact on the community
it is in. Appearance and sound do have an impact on
the people who live or work nearby as well as on
property values. In the case of a business, traffic
and patronage can certainly affect quality of life for
the neighbors. I want to find a way for the community
to have an influence on these factors without being
tyrannical.

* Primarily in businesses, there is sometimes the
situation where a business controls a property,
profits for many years, and then either goes through a
bankruptcy or somehow unloads the property on the city
or county. If you're just talking a structure, no
biggie, but sometimes there is an extensive amount of
cleanup required which will cost much more than the
property will be worth. The taxpayer of course, foots
this as the businesses profits have long been
distributed to owners/shareholders/employees and are
protected by the corporate shield or bankruptcy. Big
mounds of vermiculite, toxic seepings from an autobody
garage, canisters of nuclear waste, etc.  Even for
private property, an abandoned house can cost more to
deconstruct/demolish than the parcel it sits on is
worth - again, the taxpayer foots the bill.

I would also like to encourage the development of
long-term buildings. When economics only look at the
short term, there isn't much incentive to build for
quality and durability, but it seems that if I can
spend 100k on a building that will be good for 20
years or 200k on a building that will be good for 200
years, the latter is ultimately more cost effective
(provided that the design is good enough to ensure the
building stays useful). Having old buildings (in good
condition) can also help an area develop and maintain
a sense of history and community.

Similar to the first issue, I don't want to force the
property owner to do this, but if it can be encouraged
or made more viable, I see that as a good thing.

This is not yet viable, but I'd like to give an
overview of what I'm thinking so that anyone who is
interested can think about it and get back to me with
comments/suggestions/critiques.

My initial idea is to be certain that funds to cover
the cost of deconstruction/demolition are in escrow.

It is probably going to be prohibitively expensive to
require the complete amount be put in escrow up front
and this does not address the neighborhood or quality
issues.

So...

First, have an expert (city employee? private
practice?) review the 

[Mpls] City/County Parking lot

2002-10-15 Thread Dave Harstad

Query for City/County Parking staff:

Why is the underground parking lot between City Hall
and the County Government Center still closed to the
public?  This lot is the most convenient lot for
persons doing business in City Hall or the government
Center.   

I recall that the lot was closed to the public after
9/11.  If it is closed due to terrorist threats I
cry foul.  The lot under the federal court house is
open to the public (albiet with a security guard
there).  If a lot under a federal court house is open,
than there is no reason this lot, which isn't even
under a building, shouldn't be open too.  

I respectfully request that it be re-opened to the
public.  

I'm also curious, who is using it now and what are
those users paying?

Dave Harstad
Whittier


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Re: [Mpls] Crime and housing affordability: Denial?

2002-10-15 Thread michael libby

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On Monday 14 October 2002 23:56, dyna wrote:
 Ah, the power of denial- I mutter a few truths about the
 prevalence of crime in parts of Minneapolis and how overpriced
 housing is here, and the backlash begins:

I don't consider a little cheerleading for a City I love (Minneapolis, that 
is) to be either denial or backlash and I think saying that I engaged 
in either is unfair. We need to consider Minneapolis against its peer 
cities, not against small, rural communities.

   Again, I suspect that most of your favorite restaurants are
 pricier than  my budget will allow. BTW, Glencoe has a Subway and
 coffeehouse too.

Actually, my favorite restaurant of all time is a place called Camdi in 
Dinkytown. I can eat a big plate of great Vietnamese food and a drink big 
pot of jasmine tea there for about $5 or $6. 

   In greater Minnesota you can grow your own, or buy from the
 farmer. I don't believe Minneapolis has had a working farm in some
 years...

I had so many organically grown vegetables from my garden this year that I 
couldn't eat them all-- if I do the garden again next year I'm definitely 
going to have to get into canning. I've seen a real increase in the number 
of community gardens around town, as well.

 Now, if you can tell me that Glenwood has libraries that even come
  close to touching Minneapolis Central (even the slapped together
  interim location with its lack of stacks)...

   Try that DSL line I mentioned- I can't even get DSL here in the hood.

I can't get DSL either, but I can (and did) get a Time-Warner cable modem 
for about the same price (maybe even less, I don't know). I would be 
surprised if they don't offer service to where you're at.

And the internet quite the same as a library. I love them both, but I 
wouldn't want to live with just one or the other. Besides, DSL and cable 
modems cost about $50 a month. I don't spend nearly that much at the 
library.

   if you can tell me where
 I'll be able to buy a decent variety of cheeses and wines...

   Again, beyond my economic strata- although you can always
 make your own with such a variety of raw materials available.

You can't afford a few dollars for a hunk of cheese and $10 for a bottle of 
wine, but you can afford all the raw materials and equipment necessary to 
make your own in small batches? How do you manage that, Reaganomics?

   Like I said, for us soon to be retired jobs are irrelevant.

Like I said, lucky for you-- Glenwood is a great city. But retirement and 
moving to Glenwood are not options for a significant portion of Mpls' 
380,000+ residents. And where would Glenwood put all of us?

 had several here in Hawthorne. What is Glenwood doing right that
 Hawthorne is doing wrong?

If you honestly think you can compare a single neighborhood in a big city 
to a small rural town, then I'm pretty sure it is not I who's in denial. 
Glenwood has its population spread out over many many more square miles 
than Hawthorne does. Glenwood is not smack dab in the middle of a 
million-body metro area. Glenwood is nowhere near as racially diverse and 
Hawthorne.

   How about New York City, with a much larger population. Our
 murder rate has competed with theirs in recent years.

How about it? I spent some time today and put together an analysis of the 
murder rate in 45 large U.S. cities, which I have put online at:

  http://www.ichimunki.com/Murder_in_U_S_Cities.html

Minneapolis scored 19th overall, with an average of 16.86 homicides per 
100,000 inhabitants. Not good, number one was New Orleans with a ten year 
average homicide rate of 61.46 homicides per 100,000 residents. But 
Minneapolis was still better than NYC at 17th with 18.73 homicides per 
100,000 residents -- and I would point out that only in the last few years 
has NYC seen a real drop in their homicide levels. In the early 90s they 
were in the 20s and 30s. 

Given what I found, we should probably send some policy makers to places 
like Seattle WA, Porland OR, San Diego CA, and El Paso TX. Those places 
all average under 10 homicides a year per 100,000 inhabitants.

   I'll delve into the history of Red Light districts from
 Storyville to Superior's another day. Suffice to say, we already have
 them, as several folks from the Northside and Phillips have reported
 on this list. BTW, as you seem to think ready access to drugs and sex
 is such a good thing, can we move the Red Light district to your
 neighborhood?

OK. So we've had red light districts in the past. Where are they now? Red 
light districts are not typically based out of houses in residential 
neighborhoods. That's my point. 

My point was that the City razed what would have passed as our red light 
district(s)... and look where that crime went: into neighborhoods, yours, 
and a couple on the south side. Wouldn't it have been better if they'd 
left it where it was, centralized in a mostly non-residential area? As I 

Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis neighborhood entrepreneur makes the Strib

2002-10-15 Thread Craig Miller

I found St. Anthony's article somewhat uplifting but generally a downer.
The red tape and asinine behavior put forth by the city bureaucracy shines
through when you read the daughter's battles with the city.  Could you
imagine lack of greenspace in back of an existing structure could cost her a
license?

I am sure the city employees are just doing their job as issued from their
higher ups.
Now's the time when some good local Greens should step up to the plate and
say this kind of regulation has to end. How bout it Zimmerman and NJL?

RT if your reading, don't bother streamlining.  Open a mayors appeal desk.
When someone had done all that is sensible in their app, let them come to
your office for the quick overrule of a bureaucrat. Then keep track of what
office or employee is leading the league in overules.  Then get move the
city employee somewhere else or find out which reg is being bumped into the
most.

Craig Miller
Former Fultonite
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Re: [Mpls] Crime and housing affordability: Denial?

2002-10-15 Thread WizardMarks



michael libby wrote:

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On Monday 14 October 2002 23:56, dyna wrote:

Ah, the power of denial- I mutter a few truths about the
prevalence of crime in parts of Minneapolis and how overpriced
housing is here, and the backlash begins:


I don't consider a little cheerleading for a City I love (Minneapolis, that 
is) to be either denial or backlash and I think saying that I engaged 
in either is unfair. We need to consider Minneapolis against its peer 
cities, not against small, rural communities.

WM: Are you gonna wear the whole cheerleading outfit? Skirt, letter 
sweater, bobby socks, saddle shoes and carry two pompoms? Little street 
theater would come in welcome about now.

Like I said, lucky for you-- Glenwood is a great city. But retirement and 
moving to Glenwood are not options for a significant portion of Mpls' 
380,000+ residents. And where would Glenwood put all of us?

Given what I found, we should probably send some policy makers to places 
like Seattle WA, Porland OR, San Diego CA, and El Paso TX. Those places 
all average under 10 homicides a year per 100,000 inhabitants.

WM: If their junketing anyway, I think they should also go to some of 
the worst examples of the same size. Compare and contrast is very 
instructive.

  
OK. So we've had red light districts in the past. Where are they now? Red 
light districts are not typically based out of houses in residential 
neighborhoods. That's my point. 

WM:I wouldn't be so quick as to say that. There have been several 
buildings in my neighborhood which have (and a few still do) operate as 
houses of prostitution.

If I understand what the City Council is working on right now, it's 
going to move the remaining neighborhood saunas to a section of 
downtown. There are three designated to go on the Southside that I know 
of: Kim's (a.k.a. The Royale Knight), Utopia East--both on Lake St.; and 
the Delux on Chicago.

My point was that the City razed what would have passed as our red light 
district(s)... and look where that crime went: into neighborhoods, yours, 
and a couple on the south side. Wouldn't it have been better if they'd 
left it where it was, centralized in a mostly non-residential area?

WM: I remember cops in Cincinnati saying they liked it better when the 
bad guys were ghettoized, but at least recently they aren't being held 
up as stellar.

And it's not that I think ready access to drugs and sex is a good thing 
(although I suppose Walgreen's and marriage seem to be civilized 
solutions), I'm saying that no amount of trying is going to make the trade 
in either one go away. We've had a drug war for 30 years now and the U.S. 
has tripled it's prison population in that time. Yet I would have an 
easier time finding dope in this town than a nice place to live that's 

actually affordable.

WM: Actually, the jails are mostly full of minority people without money 
who were picked up for crack. Quieter, home office dealers in the 
suburbs who sell powder cocaine during toney parties aren't getting the 
same kind of treatment for the most part.
The African American Men Project seems to be looking toward other 
solutions which, having been tested on a small scale, have given some 
excellent results.

WizardMarks, Central


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Re: [Mpls] 1508 Lake Street Revitalization

2002-10-15 Thread Karen Cooper

Hi, thanks for posting!  It is indeed critical that the city council 
and mayor hear from the citizens on this.  Please, folks, call or 
write your councilperson, and let them know you support an expanded 
Heart of the Beast presence and new commercial space helping to 
anchor the corner of Bloomington and Lake.

The theater's Executive Director has written a Fact Sheet on buying 
and re-purposing 1508 Lake which you can read here:
http://www.urbancreek.com/hobt/factsheet.html

Kindly,

Karen Cooper [I'm a new list member, too]
Fuller


At 2:47 PM -0500 10/15/02, MJ Mueller wrote:
Dear List,

The following was sent out by Powderhorn Park Neighborhood 
Association. Although it addresses residents of Powderhorn Park etc. 
I believe it to be a Minneapolis issue, so I am posting it here. I 
urge your support of this project. Thanks.

MJ Mueller
Seward

Attention Artists, Residents, Business and Property Owners of the 
Powderhorn Park, Phillips and surrounding neighborhoods:
The much anticipated Neighborhood Multi-Cultural Arts Center is in jeopardy!

Planning for the Center, which would revitalize the vacant building 
at 1508 East Lake Street (the former Antiques Minnesota building), 
has been a collaborative effort of In the Heart of the Beast Theatre 
(HOBT), Midtown Phillips neighborhood, Powderhorn Park Neighborhood 
Association (PPNA), and the California Building Company.

The Issue:
With the terms of a purchase agreement (between HOBT and the current 
owner) coming due, expected financial help from the city of 
Minneapolis has not materialized, and could kill the deal.

Background:
Two years ago, Heart of the Beast Theatre requested assistance from 
PPNA to assess potential reuse options for the former Antiques 
Minnesota building at 1508 East Lake Street.

Of first concern was HOBT’s need for permanent shop space (they 
currently use the theater space as a shop between productions, 
removing and replacing the seats each time!). A dedicated shop would 
mean a dedicated theater, providing a regional performance space for 
non-HOBT use as well. The balance of the 1508 building was to be 
built-out as additional retail space for artists and expansion space 
for the Mercado Central.

With PPNA’s help, the California Building Company (a for-profit, 
arts-based property management and developer located on California 
Street in Minneapo-lis) was identified as an appropriate development 
partner for the project. With HOBT, they entered into a purchase 
agreement for the property earlier this year with a tentative 
closing date of 4 October 2002.

From the beginning of the project, it was known that the project had a
funding gap of about $600,000. Fortunately, Minneapolis officials 
(including the Mayor and Councilmember from the 6th, 8th and 9th 
Wards) were very eager about the proposal and indicated that the 
city would do what was necessary to make this project happen. And 
the Midtown Phillips neighborhood committed $100,000 of their NRP 
funds to the project’s funding needs.

Currently:
However, recent discussions with city staff and officials have taken 
on an unex-pected, and decidedly cooler, tone: MCDA has indicated 
that their staff report will recommend against any further city 
funding (HOBT had requested a grant from a fund specifically 
restricted to non-profit organizations).

Through his attorney, current owner Selwin Ortega has made it known 
last week that he plans to exercise his 30-day non-performance 
clause of the purchase agreement, terminating the sale of the 
building (and adjacent parking lot) to HOBT. He further suggested 
that he plans to convert the structure to a food-product warehouse 
for his Las Americas grocery stores, having recently sold his Fourth 
 Lake properties for this purpose to the Urban Ventures 
organization. Recent experience suggests that there is virtually no 
neighborhood support for such a proposal.

In contrast, enthusiasm for the Art Center is nearly unanimous, with 
PPNA, East Phillips, Midtown Phillips, Lake Street Council, and the 
Bloomington-Cedar-Lake Commercial Association all on record in 
strong support of HOBT (exemplified by Midtown Phillips’ $100,000 
contribution).

What We Ask You To Do:
Say Something Now!
Very simply, call or write to the Mayor and your Councilmember in 
support of the Neighborhood Art Center. Letters have the greatest 
impact with elected officials (as compared to e-mail), because it’s 
generally recognized as an indicator of extreme concern when someone 
takes the time to pull out pen and paper. And a letter expressed in 
your own words is particularly powerful. So use the information in 
this message, but refrain from word-for-word copies as much as 
possible. I’ve attached a copy of PPNA’s letter to the Mayor for 
your information and to serve as inspiration for what you might say.
Send your letter to:
Mayor R.T. Rybak
Minneapolis City Hall
350 South Fifth Street
Minneapolis, MN 55415
612.673.2100

(City Councilmember’s 

Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis neighborhood entrepreneur makes the Strib

2002-10-15 Thread phaedrus

 RT if your reading, don't bother streamlining.  Open
 a mayors appeal desk. When someone had done all that

 is sensible in their app, let them come to your 
 office for the quick overrule of a bureaucrat. Then 
 keep track of what office or employee is leading the

 league in overules.  Then get move the city employee

 somewhere else or find out which reg is being bumped

 into the most.

I think that the general idea is a good one. In a
bureaucracy, which by nature will trample special
cases, you have to have some method to go outside the
system.

The specifics of how it would work would have to be
worked out, but I think a mayor's appeal desk is a
great format. Make it non-threatening and inviting so
that the person who's already been kicked around by
the city can feel welcome.

I think using it as a tool to find problems in the
machine is also a great idea! A healthy government
NEEDS to have a variety of self-checks in the system.

- Jason Goray, Sheridan, NE

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Re: Re [Mpls] Crime and housing affordability: Denial?

2002-10-15 Thread JIM GRAHAM

Fred is right about living in a small town. I happen to also live in a small
town, its called Ventura Village. I moved to a city out in the BURPS once,
but people did not like knowing their neighbors and after a while my kids
and wife were spending more time back in the small town than at our 'burb'
house.  So I upped and moved em back.  Back to all our children's foster
grandparents and our close friends who absolutely surround us in our small
town.  Heck, I get to know more people in a week in my small town than I
got to know in a year out there.  Now I got to admit it was quite, but so is
the inside of a coffin.

Our small town just happens to be close to a bunch of other small towns.  In
fact really close. So close you can even walk.  I delighted in proving to a
Hump graduate planner that my front door is 1.1 miles from the front door
of Humphrey's front door and 1.3 miles from Dayton's Downtown 8th Street
door. So like any small town, I can walk downtown if I want. While I usually
drive I like the fact that if I want to I can have just about any kind of
food you can imagine in just a short stroll.  I actually should walk that
mile to 26th and Nicolett more often, I might still have my girlish figure.
(The one I haven't had in so long my wife's old memory can't seem to dig it
out of the file. I think she remembers marrying this short chubby guy
instead of the tall slim one in the pictures)

Yes I like my small town, and will be damned if a bunch of drug dealing
hoodlums will move me. (well occasionally they move me to violence at
criminals and swearing about Judges who need a glass insert for their belly
buttons, if you get my drift).  So the judges have to go back to being bad
lawyers and the criminals have got to go some where else, cause I aint going
no where but to bed.

Speaking of which, I am missing my beauty sleep, and most people already say
I must stay up too many long nights. Course like the old horse, I been rode
hard and put up wet on just too many cold nights. You can say things like
that when you are from a small town.

Jim Graham,
just me, Ma, and the crickets here in small town Ventura Village

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RE: [Mpls] Twins lose...only silver lining...

2002-10-15 Thread Amanda Tempel

Here's your answer:

Rybak will have to wear Mickey Mouse ears during the first day of the World
Series, according to a broadcast report in the Twin Cities. 

http://www.channel4000.com/msp/sports/stories/sports-172043220021015-081003.html

-amanda tempel (NE Park)

---message

When does R.T. Rybak wear the Mickey Mouse ears all day? (The
consequences of losing his bet with Anaheim's mayor...)

It'd better be a work day, and we'd better get advance notice, Laura
Sether!

David Brauer
King Field
(Who also saved $210 by not going to Games 6  7...but would've rather
spent it.)

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[Mpls] Garages are great, bravo for basements, but fences first!

2002-10-15 Thread dyna

Last night a child playing on a construction site was killed 
when stacked construction materials tipped over on her.

This tragedy is no surprise- I see poor kids, hordes of them, 
playing on construction sites and other places they shouldn't all 
over the city. Say what you will about absent parental supervision, 
kids never taught the basics of safety, or just plain the fact that 
many inner city kids lack proper toys and safe playgrounds.

Requiring that all new buildings be fenced in before 
construction starts would have prevented this tragedy. The fence 
would be left standing after the building is completed, giving the 
occupants an extra layer of defense against criminal invasion. These 
fences would protect vehicles from theft and vandalism, far more a 
threat in our city than the elements. The fences would also deprive 
criminals of sanctuary in our yards, forcing them into the public 
right of way where they are more easily monitored.

Garages make a useful addition to our homes, and basements 
are convenient places to put plumbing, heating, and electrical stuff. 
And other stuff too. But with the hordes of children and increasing 
criminal population calling our city home, only a fence is a 
necessity that should be required by ordinance.

peace,
Dyna Sluyter, who is quite happy with her new fence 
in Hawthorne


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