Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward- Don Samuels' campaign leaves more questions unanswered
List, I thought Stonewall had to either Endorse the DFL Endorsee or they could not Endorse Anybody form that particular race. Lee --- from dyna and previouly Joseph B wrote: As Stonewall DFL's leadership has expressed on this list before they are obligated by their organizational charter to support only the DFL-endorsed candidate. Don is not that candidate. No, Stonewall DFL has no obligation to support a DFL endorsed candidate. Lee J Schneider Sheboygan, WI __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] 3rd Ward Election: Please Provide Updates on Turnout and Campaign HQ
List Members in the 3rd Ward and Campaign Supporters: I hope some of you will provide information on voter turnout by precinct, observations and commentary. Also, the location where people can watch election results with each candidate. Thank you. Shawn Lewis, Field Neighborhood -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Tyesha's family gives message of peace at B2K concert
Tyesha's family gives message of peace at B2K concert Howie Padilla Star Tribune Published Dec. 28, 2002 Tyesha Edwards had planned on being at the B2K concert Friday night at Northrop Auditorium. As soon as the show was announced, her family bought tickets so that she and her younger sister, Lakia Winborn, could see their favorite singers. You should see their room, Leonard Winborn said. It's got pictures of those guys all over. http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3559510.html Shawn Lewis, Field Neighborhood -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] 'Twas the night before the election....
Boffo!!! Encore! Craig Miller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 10:07 PM Subject: [Mpls] 'Twas the night before the election 'Twas the night before the election, when all through the ward, Not a campaign was stirring, it seemed we'd all be ignored. The lit was dropped on the windshields with care, In hopes that tomorrow soon would be there. The hacks were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of victory danced in their heads. And candidates in Northeast, and those in the North, Had just settled down, for what the Primary would bring forth. When out in the streets there arose such a clatter, I sprang from the bed to see what was the matter. Away to the window I flew like a flash, Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash. The moon on the grass not covered with snow, Gave the lustre of mid-day to the scene below. When, what to my wondering ears should report, But an Authentic Community Voice with waves of support. With supporters of all races, creeds and colors, I knew in a moment it was the candidate before all others; More impressive than any, his passion shone bright And he whistled, and shouted, his priorities through the night: Now, Families! Now, Development! Now Community And Nonviolence! On Housing! On Safety! On Fairness And Conscience! From the edge of the North! Through Northeast and all! Now dash away! Dash away! On to City Hall! And with him they came, their hearts filled with hope No longer would they settle, no longer merely cope; For here was a man, authentic and real A voice from the community, not some backroom deal. And then, in a twinkling, I heard at the door A quick knock-knocking, from who, I wasn't sure. As I drew it open, what should I see, There stood Don Samuels, Council Candidate, Ward 3. He was clad in ideals, from his head to his foot, Knowledge, Compassion, and Community Input A bundle of wisdom he carried from his life, Not to mention two loving daughters and a very capable wife. His eyes -- how they twinkled! His experience shone through! His dedication and commitment, no challenge could undo! His smile warmed you from your head to your toes, An authentic respresentative, one instantly knows; A guardian ad litem, an activist and artist, One conversation with him and I knew which candidate was smartest. Long on community, yet short on hot air, I knew when we needed him, as our councilmember he'd be there He was running I knew, just to do good work Not for career move or fame, or any special perk And passing his lit and shaking my hand He thanked me for my time, and leaving, made a request not a demand He sprang to the community, to him they gathered round A wave of support lifting him up off the ground And I heard his request as he walked out of sight, VOTE DON SAMUELS TOMORROW, AND WE'LL ALL HAVE A GOOD-NIGHT! Jonathan Palmer Poetically Supporting DON SAMUELS in Victory ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Re: Bike Racks and Paths
Bike racks. The unfortunate reality is that the installation of bicycle racks is at the discretion of the owner and the designer of new projects. I worked on the Uptown Transit Station, and we installed bicycle racks because the client, Metro Transit, specifically requested them. The city code does not require them. It seems to me that if we are required to allot a set number of parking spaces for a business, the city could also put a requirement for a minimum number of bicycle rack spaces into code as well. Perhaps this is something we could bring up with city planning? Construction budgets are most often tight. Bike racks, particularly some of the nicer stylized types, can be pricy (we're talking somewhere around $1000 or more for about 8 or 9 bike slots properly installed on a concrete pad). If the racks are not required or requested by the intended users, it won't happen. Melissa Wyatt Uptown ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Re: Bike Racks and Paths
Seems to me the Mpls Planning Commission could look at incorporating the request for bike racks when projects come before us. After all the hours we spent on Target and/or Block E or on the new Guthrie - seems the least we can do is say, and how many bike racks do you plan to install? Seems pretty basic to me. Guess I will just start asking and see where it goes. If we ask it over and over on each project maybe these developers will get to realize it is a normal addition to a project. For the moment, Annie Young (today from Trempealeau, Wisconsin) Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bike racks. The unfortunate reality is that the installation of bicycle racks is at the discretion of the owner and the designer of new projects. I worked on the Uptown Transit Station, and we installed bicycle racks because the client, Metro Transit, specifically requested them. The city code does not require them. It seems to me that if we are required to allot a set number of parking spaces for a business, the city could also put a requirement for a minimum number of bicycle rack spaces into code as well. Perhaps this is something we could bring up with city planning? Construction budgets are most often tight. Bike racks, particularly some of the nicer stylized types, can be pricy (we're talking somewhere around $1000 or more for about 8 or 9 bike slots properly installed on a concrete pad). If the racks are not required or requested by the intended users, it won't happen. Melissa Wyatt Uptown ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward- Don Samuels' campaign leaves more questions unanswered
The Stonewall DFL Caucus is not obligated to endorse anyone. Part of the agreement in being an officially recognized caucus of the DFL we do agree not to endorse anyone running against a DFL endorsed candidate but we are not obligated to automatically support any DFL endorsed candidate. There is currently an active motion to endorse Olin Moore and a clear majority of the board has expressed support for the motion. This endorsement will become official very shortly (due to the holidays we have been unable to have a meeting before this). Personally, I have known Olin Moore for several years and in that time he has been not only a strong supporter of GLBT rights but has been an active participant in the GLBT rights movement. I am confident that we can trust him, by his own instinct as well as his dedication to communication with the broader community, to always be a solid and progressive vote for the whole community, aa well as the GLBT community. Megan Thomas Durning the day - Coffman Union, U of MN (any day now) Evening - West Seventh (in glorious, historic St. Paul) On Monday, December 30, 2002, at 02:21 AM, Lee Schneider wrote: List, I thought Stonewall had to either Endorse the DFL Endorsee or they could not Endorse Anybody form that particular race. Lee --- from dyna and previouly Joseph B wrote: As Stonewall DFL's leadership has expressed on this list before they are obligated by their organizational charter to support only the DFL-endorsed candidate. Don is not that candidate. No, Stonewall DFL has no obligation to support a DFL endorsed candidate. Lee J Schneider Sheboygan, WI __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Article: MN Spokesman: Leaders of African American Community
An interesting companion piece regarding the black leadership issue may be found at: What's a Black Caucus? by Clinton Collins, Jr., THE RAKE, January 2003. http://www.rakemag.com/features/detail.asp?catID=50itemID=949 Bill Dooley Kenny -Original Message- From: Shawn Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 4:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mpls] Article: MN Spokesman: Leaders of African American Community Where do 'community leaders' come from? By: Booker T Hodges Minnesota Spokesman-Recorder Originally posted 12/24/2002 Who picks the leaders of the African American community? Is it me? Is it you? Is it the community? Or is it whoever gets to the media first when something unfortunate happens in the African American community? Lastly, what gives anyone the right to stand in front of the camera and say that he or she represents the African American community? I feel that it is important that these questions be answered. During the past two weeks, I and 10 others went around the Twin Cities area asking people the question, Who are the leaders in the African American community in the Twin Cities area? We went to shopping malls, downtown areas during lunch hours, night clubs and street corners. http://www.spokesman-recorder.com/News/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=20552sID=16 Booker T. Hodges welcomes reader comments to bookert@ bookertforgovernor.com http://www.spokesman-recorder.com Shawn Lewis, Field Neighborhood -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Labor Endorsement
I've heard back from some Minneapolis residents and political figures confirming my conclusion that right-wing groups use left-wing terms to deceive the public into believing that their radical right agenda is the feel-good policy perspective that they know most people respond to when it is precisely the opposite, and for this they should never be forgiven. Here is an example of yet another distorting and misleading label taken on to advance agendas that destroy, not enhance lives in these United States. This from a New York Times article showing how counterproductive it is to deny Constitutional rights to former felons: Roger Clegg, of the Center for Equal Opportunity, a conservative research organization in Virginia, said there was no evidence that the disenfranchisement laws are racially discriminatory. We don't let everyone vote, Mr. Clegg said. We don't let children or noncitizens vote. There are basic requirements of loyalty and trustworthiness that we have for letting people vote. People who have committed serious crimes don't meet that minimum threshold. Keep an eye out for more local examples of this manipulation of the language to deceive us. Andy -- - Original Message - From: Andy Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linda Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls] Re: Labor Endorsement Organizations have been deceiving the public in this fashion for nearly a century, perhaps more. The most egregious violators of the language trust have been independent advertisers seeking to give the public the impression they're all squishy and wonderful interest groups protecting the rights of all: The names are fleeting these days because most are ad hoc groups formed to get a policy initiative passed or blocked or a candidate elected or a candidate defeated. *The drug companies trying to put a spin on prescription drugs for anyone, especially seniors, by coalescing around the words, choice and quality drugs (vs. cheaper and as effective generics) and reduced profits that undermine research and development of new pharmaceuticals. *Selling stadia as economic development tools when everywhere they've been financed by public money, the surrounding economy has tubed. *Selling self-serving development policies by calling oneself a sensible land use coalition and attempting to co-opt the private and public sector watchdogs over rampant and irresponsible sprawl. These all involve Minneapolis and St. Paul firms, all with fancy names for marketing use or persuasion objectives but deceiving the public by inferring the very opposite of what they really are. The goal of Minneapolis Republicans would be to stifle the traditional role of labor in electing Democrats and Greens, so why not form an organization dedicated to labor when unions are anathema to Republicans. It's phony baloney. But it confuses people enough to create the very public distrust they seek to create. Confusion naturally leads to resentment, often in the wrong direction, but there nevertheless. Andy Driscoll Saint Paul I (cannot) submit the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men (and women) whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. --- Thomas Jefferson (updated) From: Linda Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] So who is this group made up of? Seems as if they've co-opted a term and are using it to misdirect voters. linda higgins old highland ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Re: Bike Racks and Paths
I agree with Annie on this completely, but I would add another question. That would be how many bike lockers do you plan to install? I would agree that racks are more important than lockers, but lockers are something else that needs to be considered - especially as a way to encourage bicycle commuting. It's also true that bike lockers are usually rented and, thus, at least partly pay for themselves. Jim McGuire Como Seems to me the Mpls Planning Commission could look at incorporating the request for bike racks when projects come before us. After all the hours we spent on Target and/or Block E or on the new Guthrie - seems the least we can do is say, and how many bike racks do you plan to install? Seems pretty basic to me. Guess I will just start asking and see where it goes. If we ask it over and over on each project maybe these developers will get to realize it is a normal addition to a project. For the moment, Annie Young (today from Trempealeau, Wisconsin) Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bike racks. The unfortunate reality is that the installation of bicycle racks is at the discretion of the owner and the designer of new projects. I worked on the Uptown Transit Station, and we installed bicycle racks because the client, Metro Transit, specifically requested them. The city code does not require them. It seems to me that if we are required to allot a set number of parking spaces for a business, the city could also put a requirement for a minimum number of bicycle rack spaces into code as well. Perhaps this is something we could bring up with city planning? Construction budgets are most often tight. Bike racks, particularly some of the nicer stylized types, can be pricy (we're talking somewhere around $1000 or more for about 8 or 9 bike slots properly installed on a concrete pad). If the racks are not required or requested by the intended users, it won't happen. Melissa Wyatt Uptown ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmailxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Labor Endorsement
Andy Driscoll wrote: I've heard back from some Minneapolis residents and political figures confirming my conclusion that right-wing groups use left-wing terms to deceive the public into believing that their radical right agenda is the feel-good policy perspective that they know most people respond to when it is precisely the opposite, and for this they should never be forgiven. Well this confirms my conclusion that left-wing groups use right-wing terms to deceive the public into believing that their radical left agenda is the feel-good policy that they know most people respond to when it is precisely the opposite, and for this they should never be forgiven. Rhetoric, is rhetoric, is rhetoric... I agree that Ms. Nompelis' post is misleading and I would respect her more if she would retract it, but honorable politics is lacking on both sides of the spectrum not just one. Michael Atherton Prospect Park ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Re: Bike Racks and Paths
I am assuming the City Council Zoning and Planningwill need topass an ordinance directing MCDA to includebike racks as a part of future developments. I have been more aware of who does have bicycle racks since my first post about Target not having bicycle racks.Owner operated small businesses have installed them for their customers, coffee shops, corner stores, coop grocery stores. These other stores have installed racks because itsgood for bossiness and the right thing to do.Kudos to those bossiness owners that arebeing good cooperatecitizens. Ken Bradley Jim MCGUIRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Annie on this completely, but I would add another question. That would be "how many bike lockers do you plan to install?"I would agree that racks are more important than lockers, but lockers are something else that needs to be considered - especially as a way to encourage bicycle commuting. It's also true that bike lockers are usually rented and, thus, at least partly pay for themselves.Jim McGuireComoSeems to me the Mpls Planning Commission could look at incorporating the request for bike racks when projects come before us. After all the hours we spent on Target and/or Block E or on the new Guthrie - seems the least we can do is say, " and how many bike racks do you plan to install?" Seems pretty basic to me. Guess I will just start asking and see where it goes. If we ask it over and over on each project maybe these developers will get to realize it is a normal addition to a project.For the moment,Annie Young(today from Trempealeau, Wisconsin)Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Bike racks.The unfortunate reality is that the installation of bicycle racks is at thediscretion of the owner and the designer of new projects. I worked on theUptown Transit Station, and we installed bicycle racks because the client,Metro Transit, specifically requested them. The city code does not requirethem. It seems to me that if we are required to allot a set number ofparking spaces for a business, the city could also put a requirement for aminimum number of bicycle rack spaces into code as well. Perhaps this issomething we could bring up with city planning?Construction budgets are most often tight. Bike racks, particularly some ofthe nicer stylized types, can be pricy (we're talking somewhere around $1000or more for about 8 or 9 bike slots properly installed on a concrete pad). If the racks are not required or requested by the intended users, it won'thappen.Melissa WyattUptown___Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-DemocracyPost messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls_The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmailxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf___Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-DemocracyPost messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mplsDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
Re: [Mpls] Re: Bike Racks and Paths
I had assumed we were talking about racks at local stores for the shopper. I had not envisioned this as the same dialogue as bike racks, lockers and a shower for employees. So sounds like there is two parts to the equation My guess is it will be easier to get bike racks for the customers while harder for the employee needs. Annie Young vacationing in Trempealeau, Wisconsin Quoting ken bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am assuming the City Council Zoning and Planning will need to pass an ordinance directing MCDA to include bike racks as a part of future developments. I have been more aware of who does have bicycle racks since my first post about Target not having bicycle racks. Owner operated small businesses have installed them for their customers, coffee shops, corner stores, coop grocery stores. These other stores have installed racks because its good for bossiness and the right thing to do. Kudos to those bossiness owners that are being good cooperate citizens. Ken Bradley Jim MCGUIRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Annie on this completely, but I would add another question. That would be how many bike lockers do you plan to install? I would agree that racks are more important than lockers, but lockers are something else that needs to be considered - especially as a way to encourage bicycle commuting. It's also true that bike lockers are usually rented and, thus, at least partly pay for themselves. Jim McGuire Como Seems to me the Mpls Planning Commission could look at incorporating the request for bike racks when projects come before us. After all the hours we spent on Target and/or Block E or on the new Guthrie - seems the least we can do is say, and how many bike racks do you plan to install? Seems pretty basic to me. Guess I will just start asking and see where it goes. If we ask it over and over on each project maybe these developers will get to realize it is a normal addition to a project. For the moment, Annie Young (today from Trempealeau, Wisconsin) Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bike racks. The unfortunate reality is that the installation of bicycle racks is at the discretion of the owner and the designer of new projects. I worked on the Uptown Transit Station, and we installed bicycle racks because the client, Metro Transit, specifically requested them. The city code does not require them. It seems to me that if we are required to allot a set number of parking spaces for a business, the city could also put a requirement for a minimum number of bicycle rack spaces into code as well. Perhaps this is something we could bring up with city planning? Construction budgets are most often tight. Bike racks, particularly some of the nicer stylized types, can be pricy (we're talking somewhere around $1000 or more for about 8 or 9 bike slots properly installed on a concrete pad). If the racks are not required or requested by the intended users, it won't happen. Melissa Wyatt Uptown ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/? page=features/junkmailxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi- bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Labor Endorsement
I was asked what labor group endorsed Valdis Rozentals, and I responded. The MN Labor Federation (which is how it has always been referred to in my presence) is a REAL LABOR UNION. How is that misleading? Is it misleading because it has Republican membership? Are union members not legitimate if they're Republican? I'm not sure why I should retract a statement that contained no falsehood. I responded with the information that I had, and it is correct to the best of my knowledge. (I am not a member of the MN Labor Federation, nor was I involved in their endorsement process.) I am currently trying to find a member of the MN Labor Federation who is online so that they might be able to answer any questions that are raised about the specifics of this labor group. In the meantime, however, I am saddened by the assumption that my statements, and indeed all moderate-to-conservative ideas and individuals (at least according to Mr. Driscoll) are met with such knee-jerk cynicism. The Valdis Rozentals campaign has done a stellar job of bringing people together; an example of that can be seen simply by looking at the campaign staff, which is made up of Republicans, Independents and Democrats, to begin with. We have labor folks and we have business people. We have men and we have women. We have Latvian-Americans, Ukrainian-Americans, African-Americans, Mexican-Americans, and more! This race is about more than labels. It's about more than petty partisanship. This race is about the future of the third ward, and indeed Minneapolis as a whole. We need someone who can bring us together. BTW: the Friends for Valdis will be gathering this evening at Elsie's, which is located at 729 Marshall Ave. NE. The celebration begins at 8PM. For more information, call any of the numbers below. Connie Nompelis Ventura Village Friends for Valdis 612-623-4005 campaign hq 612-581-6101 connie cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Michael Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Driscoll wrote: I've heard back from some Minneapolis residents and political figures confirming my conclusion that right-wing groups use left-wing terms to deceive the public into believing that their radical right agenda is the feel-good policy perspective that they know most people respond to when it is precisely the opposite, and for this they should never be forgiven. Well this confirms my conclusion that left-wing groups use right-wing terms to deceive the public into believing that their radical left agenda is the feel-good policy that they know most people respond to when it is precisely the opposite, and for this they should never be forgiven. Rhetoric, is rhetoric, is rhetoric... I agree that Ms. Nompelis' post is misleading and I would respect her more if she would retract it, but honorable politics is lacking on both sides of the spectrum not just one. Michael Atherton Prospect Park ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Fwd: RE: [Mpls] Article: MN Spokesman: Leaders of African American Community
JKurtis Ballantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:10:55 -0800 (PST)From: JKurtis Ballantine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Fwd: RE: [Mpls] Article: MN Spokesman: Leaders of African American CommunityTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JKurtis Ballantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:05:04 -0800 (PST)From: JKurtis Ballantine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: RE: [Mpls] Article: MN Spokesman: Leaders of African American CommunityTo: "Dooley, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree with the article. There is a dearth of serious and effective leadership since Gleason Glover left us. The skill of rising above the bickering and accomplishing something is clearly absent. Example: Trent Lott..the reaction to his insidious comments was to say all Republicans have the same agenda. The Republican party has open enrollment andLott hid in the Republican Party.However he's a Democrat, who got caught being a trueDemocrat. He never changed his democratic beliefs. Yet the people who have the priviledge of being vocal and visible on issues are playing the race card against an entire political party, the Republican Party. These overtures create misguided relations and a lack of focuson critical issues like serving the interest of local communities. Kurtis "Kurt" Ballantine, Uptown "Dooley, Bill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An interesting companion piece regarding the black leadership issue may be found at: "What's a Black Caucus?" by Clinton Collins, Jr., THE RAKE, January 2003. http://www.rakemag.com/features/detail.asp?catID=50itemID=949Bill DooleyKenny-Original Message-From: Shawn Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 4:55 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Mpls] Article: MN Spokesman: Leaders of African AmericanCommunityWhere do 'community leaders' come from?By: Booker T HodgesMinnesota Spokesman-RecorderOriginally posted 12/24/2002 Who picks the leaders of the African Americancommunity? Is it me? Is it you? Is it the community? Or is it whoever gets to the media first when something unfortunate happens in the African American community? Lastly, what gives anyone the right to stand in front of the camera and say that he or she represents the African American community?I feel that it is important that these questions be answered. During the past two weeks, I and 10 others went around the Twin Cities area asking people thequestion, "Who are the leaders in the AfricanAmerican community in the Twin Cities area?" We went to shopping malls, downtown areas during lunch hours, night clubs and street corners.http://www.spokesman-recorder.com/News/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=20552sID=16Booker T. Hodges welcomes reader comments to bookert@ bookertforgovernor.com http://www.spokesman-recorder.comShawn Lewis, Field Neighborhood-- ___Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.comhttp://www.mail.com/?sr=signupMeet Singleshttp://corp.mail.com/lavalife___Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-DemocracyPost messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls___Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-DemocracyPost messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up nowDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
RE: [Mpls] Labor Endorsement
Constance Nompelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was asked what labor group endorsed ValdisRozentals, and I responded. The MN Labor Federation(which is how it has always been referred to in mypresence) is a REAL LABOR UNION. How is thatmisleading? Eric writes: Constance, It is NOT a labor union. A Labor Union is a bargaining unit for a group of employees. This is an organization that happens to have members that may belong to labor unions. They don't represent workers, or even protect them. Their existance is based on the destruction of unions, hence their mission statement, "We believe in the right of employees to organize, to join a union or other organization, and to not have dues used for political purposes." Maybe destructive to unions is a bit harsh, they seem to want to neuter them. Without political action, what leverage would they have? Let's say a candidate is running for Mayor of St Paul, US Senate, or President of the United States, and that candidate has a platform based on phasing out the 40 hour work week, or minimun wage, or a living wage, or OSHA? Why wouldn't a bargaining unit do what it can to protect it's workers including supporting and endorsing political candidates that may friendlier to labor? Management does it through company PACs. Maybe a lot of the union members have forgotten that their comfortable living wage jobs with benefits came not out of the goodness of managements heart, but long fought out political action. The Mn Labor Federation is really titled the Republican Labor Federation. It only represents the direct agenda of the Republican Party to weaken the Labor Unions to the point of insignificance. Check out their website http://www.mngop.com/labor Eric Mitchell Maple GroveDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
[Mpls] Bike Racks;Bogus Labor Endorsement
I think if its a matter of getting them installed, two or three of the posts set in concrete would be sufficient. You can always stymie any action by considering how much a nice version of something costs. Bike riders lock their bikes to street signs every day. They don't insist on nice bike racks. In fact, I've locked my bike to a railing at the library. So government or whoever is managing a project should stop pricing out the most expensive unit and then saying sorry we don't have that kind of money. Truth is if I found a thoroughly secured u-bolt coming out of the sidewalk, I'd lock my bike to it. So, in most cases this can be ULTRA-cheap! As for bike lanes and the danger of Franklin or Hennepin, I would STRONGLY suggest that bike riders seek out side streets. I personally consider it dumb to choose the busiest streets in town on which to do your bike riding. Why dodge SUVs any more than you have to? I don't know about that law that prohibits riding on the sidewalk, but I do know that about 80 or 90 percent of those laws are unenforced and meaningless. And if I had to WALK my bike to stay out of the way of an SUV, I'd do it. Sometimes at the busiest intersections, I just get off my bike and walk it in the crosswalks. Seems pretty strange to me that a rider would wear a helmet to save his head but dodge crazy SUVers which endangers far more than his head. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Re: Labor Federation Is this what you're taling about? http://www.gop-mn.org/labor/ Odd that they say they believe in not having dues used for political purposes, yet the organization EXISTS for political purposes. The home page says it is prepared by the Republican Party. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = ___ Jim MorkCooper Neighborhood Blessed are the peacemakers for they will be called children of God--Matthew 5:9 United for Peace http://www.unitedforpeace.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Re: Bike Racks and Paths
Plenty of other cities have bike parking ordinances, requiring From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Re: Bike Racks and Paths Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:14:58 -0600 Seems to me the Mpls Planning Commission could look at incorporating the request for bike racks when projects come before us. After all the hours we spent on Target and/or Block E or on the new Guthrie - seems the least we can do is say, " and how many bike racks do you plan to install?" Seems pretty basic to me. Guess I will just start asking and see where it goes. If we ask it over and over on each project maybe these developers will get to realize it is a normal addition to a project. For the moment, Annie Young (today from Trempealeau, Wisconsin) Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bike racks. The unfortunate reality is that the installation of bicycle racks is at the discretion of the owner and the designer of new projects. I worked on the Uptown Transit Station, and we installed bicycle racks because the client, Metro Transit, specifically requested them. The city code does not require them. It seems to me that if we are required to allot a set number of parking spaces for a business, the city could also put a requirement for a minimum number of bicycle rack spaces into code as well. Perhaps this is something we could bring up with city planning? Construction budgets are most often tight. Bike racks, particularly some of the nicer stylized types, can be pricy (we're talking somewhere around $1000 or more for about 8 or 9 bike slots properly installed on a concrete pad). If the racks are not required or requested by the intended users, it won't happen. Melissa Wyatt Uptown ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Re: Bike Racks and Paths
Plenty of other cities, including Portland (OR), Denver, Los Angeles, Houston, Santa Cruz, and Sacramentohave bike parking ordinances which require businesses to provide bike parking. And yes, it is pretty inexpensive; many business owners just don't even think to consider it. Fiona Lockhart Bryn Mawr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Re: Bike Racks and Paths Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:14:58 -0600 Seems to me the Mpls Planning Commission could look at incorporating the request for bike racks when projects come before us. After all the hours we spent on Target and/or Block E or on the new Guthrie - seems the least we can do is say, " and how many bike racks do you plan to install?" Seems pretty basic to me. Guess I will just start asking and see where it goes. If we ask it over and over on each project maybe these developers will get to realize it is a normal addition to a project. For the moment, Annie Young (today from Trempealeau, Wisconsin) Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bike racks. The unfortunate reality is that the installation of bicycle racks is at the discretion of the owner and the designer of new projects. I worked on the Uptown Transit Station, and we installed bicycle racks because the client, Metro Transit, specifically requested them. The city code does not require them. It seems to me that if we are required to allot a set number of parking spaces for a business, the city could also put a requirement for a minimum number of bicycle rack spaces into code as well. Perhaps this is something we could bring up with city planning? Construction budgets are most often tight. Bike racks, particularly some of the nicer stylized types, can be pricy (we're talking somewhere around $1000 or more for about 8 or 9 bike slots properly installed on a concrete pad). If the racks are not required or requested by the intended users, it won't happen. Melissa Wyatt Uptown ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 3 months FREE*. 3 months FREE*. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Something for The Mpls City Council
In a message dated 12/24/02 1:23:26 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can we expect a city council that can not make a connection between wasting money on war and not having any money to spend on local needs, to be able to see how such a simple thing, as the erosion of civil liberties, might have anything to do with the lives of the people of Minneapolis? Dean Zimmermann Mpls City Council Member - Ward 6 612-673-2206 Below my signature is a good commentary from ZNet on this topic. Counter Resolutions on the part of various NGOs and representative governing bodies are in fact a good way to speak against the anti-democratic powers who dominate the national government and media. As I was out triking around today, I spoke with a good many people about the way that democracy has been effectively destroyed in our country. "We the people" are offered a narrow range of political candidates and public policy choices carefully crafted by professional servants of a very anti-democratic plutocracy. I spoke today with an elderly man near Lake of the Isles, a veteran of World War II, who told me that there is no way he wants to send his grandsons to war for all the wrong reasons. I spoke with several other people who all realize that the USA reserves the right to have and to destribute weapons of mass destruction and to terrorize the world with these for the purpose of serving as the bullying global security department of a few large eco-terrorist corporations. Many people who see me on my trike greet me and strike up conversations. One businessman said that he doesn't think Americans will get a clue until environmental or military disasters make too painful to deny: our government has been hijacked. Our state and local governments are being financially gutted as the current national government expands in every way, dollars are being sucked into an endlesslessly expanding military-industrial complex, and our culture itself is being militarized. It is the responsibility of local and state leaders to speak out against the current process. Our nation is being carved up into brutally-administered colonies who depend directly on very anit-democratic corporations for handouts. Note that Red Wing, Minnesota recently considered putting advertisements on patrol cars so they could afford to have patrol cars. When Minneapolis squads are bought and paid for by the corporate advertisers, we will know clearly for whom the police work. The opportunity for democratic dialogue and debate shrinks as corporations exclude free expression from the workplace and from the marketplace -- these are places where the people who started this country carried on important political debate and discussion. Now democratic debate and dialogue are excluded brom the US Congress and Senate -- millionaire's clubs that serve the billionaire's club who give them enough to run for office. So some local expression of actual debate and dialogue may be all that is left. Maybe democracy will return to America one day -- Gary Hoover ZNet Commentary Counter Resolutions As Protest December 30, 2002 By Jessica Azulay In the face of a massive failure of the United States government and the United Nations to heed the will of the national and international antiwar majority, some U.S. cities are taking matters into their own hands. Despite sizable dissent, President Bush has resolved to declare war on Iraq, and the United States Congress has declared its support of his policy, ignoring a huge outpouring of letters and phone calls by constituents demanding the opposite. Bought into line, the U.N. Security council passed a new resolution on Iraq, which seems to be designed to set Iraq up for inevitable failure and attack. In response to the obvious flouting of democracy and international law, antiwar activists have shifted their focus away from Congress and are convincing their city councils to make some resolutions of their own. On November 11, the Common Council of Syracuse, New York passed a resolution opposing a U.S. led military strike against Iraq. In doing so, Syracuse joined over 30 city councils that have passed similar resolutions. Santa Cruz, Oakland, and Ithaca were the first cities to pass resolutions in October, 2002. Over the next few months, they were followed by others including Seattle, Washington; New Haven, Connecticut; Washington, D.C.; and Santa Fe, New Mexico. Activists in many other cities, such as New York and Chicago, are currently campaigning to convince their councils to pass resolutions. That so many of these efforts have been successful is encouraging and it speaks to the times. Throughout the Vietnam War, peace activists in Syracuse tried but failed to pass an antiwar resolution. Now, even before a big military offensive has even begun, the resolution passed with relative ease. The city council resolutions being passed all over the country differ in content. Some are brief, merely stating the
RE: [Mpls] Bogus Labor Endorsement
Jim Mork wrote: Re: Labor Federation Is this what you're taling about? http://www.gop-mn.org/labor/ Odd that they say they believe in not having dues used for political purposes, yet the organization EXISTS for political purposes. The home page says it is prepared by the Republican Party. However, membership in this group is not required to obtain employment and there is no legal obligation to contribute a fair share of one's wages to an organization that one is forced to join. Fair share being one of the most oxymoronic phrases in the history of the labor movement. Michael Atherton Prospect Park ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Bike Racks and Paths
Thank you, Melissa. Amending the city code for bicycle parking is exactly what should be done. I use my two-wheeled wonder for 90 percent of my urban excursions. I have put 2000 miles on my odometer this year. But in my experience, the accommodation for bicycles in the Twin Cities is appalling. Every day, my life is threatened by some idiot behind the wheel. When I arrive at my destination, the city usually gives me the collective finger by providing no place to put my bicycle. The feeling I continually get from Minneapolis is that alternative transportation is not welcome and barely tolerated. I would like to live in a city that raises the bar even higher than what Melissa suggested. I would like Minneapolis to require that for every new or repaved parking space for cars, a business must install one parking slot for bicycles. Why should Minneapolis implement radical changes for transportation? Go outside and breathe the air. Observe the eerie red band around the entire horizon at sunset. Try to hold a conversation at the intersection of two major streets at 5:00. Try to implement pedestrian right-of-way in the face of snarling metal monstrosities -- often occupied by people who act like they cannot be delayed one second, because they must be in the diplomatic core and on their way to negotiate world peace. Slow down and get out of your car. Mark Knapp Kingfield --- Melissa Wyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that if we are required to allot a set number of parking spaces for a business, the city could also put a requirement for a minimum number of bicycle rack spaces into code as well. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] 3rd Ward turnout?
Anyone have a pre-polls-close report? Can you count the voters on one hand? Two? Need your toes? Curious, David Brauer King Field ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Labor Endorsement
Well, it's pretty apparent that my words are being twisted as though intended to address one person's post. They were not. Now, I'd like Mr. Atherton or anyone else to give us all some definitive examples of deceptive advertising and marketing through the use of misleading labels by left or progressive groups as a way of persuading right-leaning people to their side. One. Just one example, Mr. Atherton. I wager, that if one example can be iterated, a dozen more can be found to be just the opposite. In either case, I deplore the mangling of meaning to convey an opposite impression from the reality underneath, no matter the political persuasion. Deception and dishonest by anyone and any group is exactly the means by which clever politics keep people cynical and out of participating in civic activity, not the least of which is voting. But I suggest to you that my argument below is not the proper example at all. The statement below is an observation, not an example of deception. So, let's have at it: let's find the outfits that claim to be one thing, but are actually the opposite of what they claim. It ain't just rhetoric. Rhetoric is not by definition deceptive. I've mentioned the right wing organization in Virginia, The Center for Equal Opportunity. You've all mentioned a labor group that has nothing to do with union organizing. Andy Driscoll Saint Paul I (cannot) submit the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men (and women) whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. --- Thomas Jefferson (updated) From: Michael Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:09:22 -0600 To: Mpls List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Mpls] Labor Endorsement Andy Driscoll wrote: I've heard back from some Minneapolis residents and political figures confirming my conclusion that right-wing groups use left-wing terms to deceive the public into believing that their radical right agenda is the feel-good policy perspective that they know most people respond to when it is precisely the opposite, and for this they should never be forgiven. Well this confirms my conclusion that left-wing groups use right-wing terms to deceive the public into believing that their radical left agenda is the feel-good policy that they know most people respond to when it is precisely the opposite, and for this they should never be forgiven. Rhetoric, is rhetoric, is rhetoric... I agree that Ms. Nompelis' post is misleading and I would respect her more if she would retract it, but honorable politics is lacking on both sides of the spectrum not just one. Michael Atherton Prospect Park ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward turnout?
Any idea why turnout is so low? If list turnout was indicative of ward turnout, it would be through the roof. Susan Maricle Bruno MN --- David Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a pre-polls-close report? Can you count the voters on one hand? Two? Need your toes? Curious, David Brauer King Field ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward turnout?
Well one would need all toes and fingers, and a friends, to count all votes that happened before noon in the 3rd ward election, at least more folks showed up to vote than were on the ballot. tom taylor sheridan neighborhood 3-1 992 preregistered voters with 43 folks voting by 10:58 3-2 1589 preregistered voters with 100 folks voting by 11:08 3-3 1872 preregistered voters with 50 folks voting by 10:24 3-4 1655 preregistered voters with 91 folks voting by NOON 3-5 1202 preregistered voters with 74 folks voting by 11:30 3-6 303 preregistered voters with 40 folks voting by 11:35 3-7 1936 preregistered voters with 59 folks voting by 12:20 3-8 1347 preregistered voters with 35 folks voting by 12:05 3-9 1788 preregistered voters with 63 folks voting by 12:28 3-10 1432 preregistered voters with 36 folks voting by 12:15 ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Labor Endorsement
(CN) says; It's about more than petty partisanship. (VF) Is this why, he neglected to put on his card that he was a republican? Yet, he took the time to add labor endorsed. Why does he feel the need to TRY and falsely run as labor endorsed? We all know there was but one labor endorsed candidate, Olin MOORE. (CN) We need someone who can bring us together. (VF) How can playing little mind games bring us together? We aready have people playing mind games with us now.. Vanessa Freeman Hawthorne _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmailxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Pioneer Press doesn't count the northside...
Did anyone else see this? I just laughed at lunch today when I read the primary story in the Pioneer Press today. It's nice to know that my belief of what the rest of the area thinks about the northside of minneapolis is true. We don't exist. Until there is a shooting or a riot. Here's the link, make sure to read the first line. http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/4837964.htm Stephen Jester Northsider for 29 years McKinley ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
re [mpls] Ward Three turnout
In the old ward boundary, Precincts 1 through 6 are on the east bank (NE), precincts 7 through 10 on the west bank (North Side). The early turnout report by Tom Taylor tells the following: P 1 through 6 voted 4.33% P 7 through 10 voted 2.97% Of the 14,116 registered, 591 had voted by the times Tom reports. That's a 4.19% turnout to those late morning/midday points. Not much longer to wait. Fred Markus, Horn Terrace, Ward Ten, in the Lyndale Neighborhood --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002 ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Response to Bruce Shoemaker's Questions
Here are some answers to a recent post-- "B. Shoe" wrote to the list regarding Margo Ashmore: 1. What exactly is your real stand on the Cub Foods proposal? I will listen to the community, including all stakeholders--neighborhood organizations, individuals, the NE Chamber of Commerce, NE CDC, and local businesses, churches throughout the area that would draw traffic to Central Avenue. The goal is to provide, on Central Avenue, the goods and services that will bring a crucial mass of people to the avenue to shop and play as well as work and live; for the community to be successful. Like many other propositions related to Central Avenue improvement, it is a complex issue that requires careful handling. 2. What is your view on the relationship of the NECDC to neighborhood groups? I was elected to the NE CDC board of directors this autumn. The NE CDC, less than a year old, is developing its working relationships with other stakeholders. My contribution to the organization, so far, was organizing a board retreat which included basic information on what CDCs can do for the areas they serve. List readers should know that B. Shoe and I differ on how the public should be informed of a recent negotiation between the Holland Neighborhood and the CDC. 3. Given the current controversies regarding the CDC, is it a conflict of interest to continue as a CDC board member while seeking a city council office? No conflict of interest is involved. I requested an excused absence from the December board meeting which was held after I filed for office. 4. If you win elected office, how would you handle the conflict of interest of being an owner of the Northeaster with being our city council representative? Would you pledge to have you and your partner permanently sever all ownership ties to the Northeaster before taking office? I have had no participation in the Northeaster and NorthNews since filing for office. I had no foreknowledge of the one issue of the Northeaster that was published during this time including candidate ads, their placement, candidate inserts, and editorial page content. The campaign is paying the same rates as everyone else. If elected, I will serve on the City Council and my partner and the Northeaster/NorthNews staff will operate the newspapers. There are similar situations all over the state of MN and the key to handling the potential for conflict is the type of disclosure that has been observed in the newspaper. 5. As Loki Anderson just asked of Don Samuels, if the redistricting does go through, what would you do in 2005? Assuming voter support, I will run for reelection in 2005. For more on Margo Ashmore and the issues, see http://www.margoashmore.com. Feel free to phone me at 612-867-4874. On residency, see http://www.mnforum.org/pipermail/mpls/2002-December/019177.html. Thank you for the opportunity to share this information with the list. Margo Ashmore 3rd Ward City Council Candidate Holland neighborhood resident
Re: [Mpls] A couple of corrections and questions regarding North Oaks
Ken Bradley wrote: Actually, you know you're in North Oaks when folks celebrate receiving the most. How many low income and immigrant folks is the gated community of North Oaks currently supporting. You know the folks that do all low paying service related jobs and other tasks that people from North Oaks seem to enjoy; law service, health care, and on, and on, and on. Vicky responds: Actually, North Oaks hasn't had any gates for thirty years. I don't know what received the most means. My immediate neighbors consist of a teacher, a carpenter who owns his own remodeling business, an engineer, a periodontist who teaches dentistry at the U of M, and an insurance salesman. The City has lots of seniors and many immigrant families (they do, to the best of my knowledge, support themselves however.) I see lots of the teenagers working at Cub, Arby's, and Culver's when they're not in school. I know lots of North Oaks women who spend all of their time raising money for various charities. The four families on my street are Democrats. Please tell me Mr. Bradley, what's wrong with these people? As you know, those who earn (emphasize earn, not receive) the most, pay the most. It seems to me that they should be thanked, rather than scorned. If it were not for them, everyone else would be paying a lot more. I think that what Ken Bradley was trying to talk about was the economic disparity that separates the North Oaks folks from the Minneapolis folks. Average income: Minneapolis $22,685 North Oaks $72,686 (about 275% of the regional median) Number of families Minneapolis 74,543 North Oaks 1,186 Number and percent of families in poverty (using the federal definition, which is extreme poverty) Minneapolis: 8,868 (12%) North Oaks: 0 Number of individuals in poverty (using the federal definition, which is extreme poverty) Minneapolis 62,092 (16%) North Oaks 75 (2%) Of these persons in poverty, the number of children in poverty Minneapolis 19,851 North Oaks 0 Persons employed in professional, managerial, technical positions: Minneapolis 39% North Oaks 70% Persons employed in service positions Minneapolis 15% (33,771) North Oakes 2% (36) This didn't happen by accident. North Oaks, by reason of its development policies, has not make itself accessible to persons with low income. North Oaks has 99% single family homes (the one percent is townhomes) and thus has no apartments which could be rented persons without an income high enough to purchase a home. This is directly related to how this community has chosen to develop its land. When I had looked at it in the past, the requirement was that no multifamily dwelling units could be built and single family houses had to be built on a minimum of three acres. This clearly pushes the burden to housing the region's poor to Minneapolis. And this has been a deliberate choice by the persons overseeing the development of North Oaks. Carol Becker Longfellow Data from the US Census and City of Shoreview ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] 3rd Ward parties
Well, candidate parties, anyway - Could someone post where each campaign's primary night party will be? I assume the more the merrier, right? It is an election, after all. Thanks, David Brauer King Field (But in the 3rd Ward tonight!) ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward parties
Don Samuels - 2700 Logan Av N The party has alreadystarted. Dennis Plante Jordan From: "David Brauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mpls list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Mpls] 3rd Ward parties Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:40:39 -0600 Well, candidate parties, anyway - Could someone post where each campaign's primary night party will be? I assume the more the merrier, right? It is an election, after all. Thanks, David Brauer King Field (But in the 3rd Ward tonight!) ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] CANIDATE PARTY FOR OLIN MOORE
Hello All~ Canidate Party for Olin Moore - Monday, December 30th Join Olin and his supporters at Broadway Pizza on primary election night. The party starts at 8pm. The address is 2025 West River Road. Hope to see you there!!! :) Bruce Vanessa Freeman Hawthorne -- ___ Get your free email from http://www.BlackPlanet.com/ The World is Yours Powered by Outblaze ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] City election results website
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/elections/2002SpecialPrimary.asp David Brauer List manager ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward parties
In a message dated 12/30/02 5:41:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could someone post where each campaign's primary night party will be? For Shane Price/ Go to the new Tetta Bunna(sp?) Gourmet Coffee Shop, Penn Plymouth/Urban League Building. Keith Reitman NearNorth ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] 3-10 Results Just Posted
Don Samuels - 30 Shane Price - 23 Olin Moore - 22 Valdis Rozentals - 17 Margo Ashmore- 15 No one else had more than 3. Walt Cygan Keewaydin ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] 3-10 Results Just Posted
List, All the precincts reporting: 1. Olin Moore (25%) 2. Don Samuels (18%) 3. Valdis Rothendahl (15%) 4. Margo Ashmore (??) 5. Shane Price (8%) Sincerely, Azin Adjoudani Windom ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] 3-10 Results Just Posted
Oops, that's actually the results of the 10th Precinct. Actually its Moore and Ashmore, I guess it's still a DFL town after all. Dean Carlson, Ward 10, East Harriet - Original Message - From: Walt Cygan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Minneapolis Issues Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:44 PM Subject: [Mpls] 3-10 Results Just Posted Don Samuels - 30 Shane Price - 23 Olin Moore - 22 Valdis Rozentals - 17 Margo Ashmore- 15 No one else had more than 3. Walt Cygan Keewaydin ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Ward Three all but 2, 4, 7 and 8a-b
Looks like Olin and Margo. Fred Markus, Horn Terrace, Ward Ten, in the Lyndale Neighborhood --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002 ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Ward 3
Looking up a different story, I learned that I screwed up on the last 3rd ward election. Republicans DIDN'T get 1,029 votes. Fred Askew didnt RUN as a Republican. Oops! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * My surmise on the turnout is TOO many candidates. The choices are just too muddled together. This is a sure way to turn off people who are barely involved anyway. You may think 2 percent and 4 percent is low. But check the turnout on a regular off-year election and it isn't that much higher. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Looks to me from the results site that Moore and Samuels easily outdistanced everyone else, leaving the lone Republican way behind. So much for the Republican wave. I think if Republicans want to have any chance, they have to learn what John V. Lindsay long ago and Michael Blumberg today know: Big city Republicans can't echo Bush. Not even in Bush's own state. = Jim MorkCooper Neighborhood Blessed are the peacemakers for they will be called children of God--Matthew 5:9 United for Peace http://www.unitedforpeace.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Olin Moore and Don Samuels Win
I have been told Olin Moore and Don Samuels have won the Third Ward Primary race, congratulations gentlemen. I also want to congratulate all 20 candidates that ran in the primary and discussed the issues important to our city. Ken Bradley Fredric Markus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like Olin and Margo.Fred Markus, Horn Terrace, Ward Ten, in the Lyndale Neighborhood---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002___Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-DemocracyPost messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mplsDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
