Re: [Mpls] protests and police

2003-03-23 Thread Jim MCGUIRE






Original Message Follows
From: Michael C. Libby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That the protestors and police seemed to have learned to get along is
encouraging to me. Yes, there was obviously some tension, but I think
protests trying to stay out of bike and bus lanes and police keeping
everyone safe from traffic incidents is progress.
(JM)  I have a different take on this.  First off, the over reaction o fthe 
police to Critical Mass (at least the one that was widely covered by the 
media and on this list) took place last March under Rybak's watch.  Rybak 
responded by meeting with CMers and ordering the police to back off later 
rides and later (briefly) joining a ride himself.  Perhaps just a 
clarification of your message since the result is the same.  Rybak did work 
to tone down police efforts.

As to the police laying off the anti-war demos - whereas I agree that they 
could be over reacting and Rybak may deserve some credit I'd say it has as 
much to do with the (entirely peaceful) tactics of the demonstrators then 
anything else.  Historically, Minneapolis anti-war demonstrations have had 
more of a radical edge than what I see presently.  In 1987, for example, a 
March opposing a US deployment of troops to Honduras (Reagan had sent them 
after some Nicaraguan troops had chased Contras back across the Honduran 
border.  He announced that this was to prevent a Nicaraguan invasion of 
Honduras) there were a number of rallys including one where a bowling ball 
was thrown the the window of the Armed Forces recruiting center on Lake St.

In San Francisico this year, which you mentioned, the demonstrators are 
deliberately blocking intersections to stop traffic.  Nothing like that is 
happening here.  Nor are there large organized radical groups  to support 
actions like the bowling ball one.  At least they're not as visible as they 
were in '87 (Coalition partners then included the Progressive Student 
Organization from the U of M and the Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League 
(RABL)  There was also an anarchist bookstore in town)

I need to note, that the peace movement in '87 fractured over the bowling 
ball action.  It certainly wasn't anything everyone agreed should happen.  
Women Against Military Madness left the coalition and later coalition 
marches went on after reaching consensus that they wouldn't support 
destruction of property.  The police, perhaps understandably, were less 
restrained then they have been recently.

To sum it up - I think the police are restrained because the demonstrators 
have been peaceful.  A prolonged war or future armed conflicts initiated by 
the present administration may change that as people get more angry.  I'm 
making no predictions.

Jim McGuire
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[Mpls] KMOJ faces restructuring, relocation and board oversight issues

2003-03-23 Thread Shawn Lewis

KMOJ in crisis: 
By: Shannon Gibney
Minnesota Spokesman-Recorder
Originally posted 3/20/2003 

As station faces restructuring and 
relocation, some challenge the 
current board’s oversight

First in a two-part story

At a meeting Saturday, March 15, to 
address the state of KMOJ radio, some 
community members asserted that the station 
could go off the air in December because 
of the board of directors’ failure to 
apply for construction permits with the 
Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and 
failure to file an annual report with the 
State of Minnesota Attorney General’s 
Office in 2001. 

Meeting participants also alleged that 
KMOJ board members are not following 
the organization’s bylaws; characterized 
the station’s new public affairs programming 
as unfairly selected; and stated that many 
board members have been on the board too 
long and have conflicting 
interests. 

Community activists Duane Reed, Travis Lee, 
and Booker Hodges said that nothing short 
of the full resignation of the KMOJ board 
of directors was necessary to begin the 
tenuous process of rebuilding the public 
trust that they claim has been violated.

“KMOJ was created as a public, community 
radio station on June 22, 1976,” Lee told 
the group of about 30 present at Café 
Tatta Bunna. “The purpose of the station 
was to inform the community on various events, 
and put their own perspective, their 
cultural perspective, on an otherwise 
whitewashed media.
 
“I’ve watched the station deteriorate and 
fail to grow in the last 25 or so odd years,” 
Lee continued. “If you look at the station 
right now, you can’t tell if it’s ‘76 or 2003, 
and I think that’s a case of gross neglect 
in our community. I hope that what this 
meeting does is serve as something that’s 
not often done in Minnesota — is to police 
our own community, instead of waiting for 
other folks to come in and take over because 
of our own neglect.

http://www.spokesman-recorder.com

Shawn Lewis, Field Neighborhood

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[Mpls] Articele: MN Spokesman on I-35 and Lake Street

2003-03-23 Thread Shawn Lewis

Is I-35 expansion another Rondo?
By: Isaac Peterson, III
Minnesota Spokesman-Recorder
Originally posted 3/20/2003 

Some residents oppose tearing up the 
neighborhood for the convenience of 
suburban commuters

Do the urban planning and economic 
development policies used in planning 
the I-35 and Lake Street expansions in 
South Minneapolis contribute to racial 
injustice in Minneapolis? Do those plans 
alleviate problems for African Americans 
and others of color, or add to them?

We have previously reported on the dimensions 
of the planned expansions of Lake Street and 
I-35, and who is involved in making those 
plans (Spokesman-Recorder November 7 and 14, 2002). The plans, as described, would 
widen Lake Street,
 add a “flyover” ramp that would increase access 
to Abbott Northwestern Hospital and the Wells 
Fargo facility formerly owned by Honeywell, 
and add areas planners claim will beautify 
the area (called “mitigation” and “enhancement.”).

But will expanding access to that area be 
beneficial to residents in the long run? The 
debate still rages. Supporters of the project 
claim that it will help “revitalize” the area, 
while opponents say that the area is already 
being revitalized by residents and new 
businesses started primarily by people of 
color. 

http://www.spokesman-recorder.com

Shawn Lewis, Field Neighborhood

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[Mpls] Property Taxes for a Mpls Home (compared to affordable housing in North Oaks)

2003-03-23 Thread Victoria Heller
David Brauer wrote:

Couldn't pay me to live in Fridley, no matter how friendly

Vicky comments:

One has to wonder what's behind a comment like that - is there something
wrong with the people who live in Fridley?  Since similar attacks have been
hurled at North Oaks, I thought that I would take this opportunity to
compare two houses for sale - one in Minneapolis and one in North Oaks.
From the MLS listings this morning:  www.themlsonline.com.  Check them out
yourself

MINNEAPOLIS:  4741 Humboldt Avenue S - MLS# 2122081

3 BR/2 bath
2,678 square feet
1/4 acre lot
Asking price $589,900
Taxes:  $6,153

NORTH OAKS:  47 South Deep Lake Road - MLS#2097009

4 BR/3 bath
3,016 square feet
1.15 acre lot
Asking price $409,900
Taxes: $2,252, plus association fee of $650 per year
.and the water is free

Vicky Heller
Taxed out of Minneapolis, now living in North Oaks


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RE: [Mpls] Property Taxes for a Mpls Home (compared to affordable housing in North Oaks)

2003-03-23 Thread David Brauer
 David Brauer wrote:
 
 Couldn't pay me to live in Fridley, no matter how friendly
 
 Vicky comments:
 
 One has to wonder what's behind a comment like that - is there something
 wrong with the people who live in Fridley?  Since similar attacks have
been
 hurled at North Oaks, I thought that I would take this opportunity to
 compare two houses for sale - one in Minneapolis and one in North Oaks.
 From the MLS listings this morning:  www.themlsonline.com.  Check them out
 yourself

All you have to do is ask.

It's called freedom of choice. My strictly personal standards - and nothing
personal against Fridley folks. Nothing to do with not living in North Oaks
(although many of the same reasons apply).

My reasons for Minneapolis over Fridley:
It's closer to my job.
Minneapolis is more livable without a car - I don't have to commute miles on
highways (yuck!)
It's much closer to many more cultural attractions
We have a kid in the school system here and so far it's great, so we don't
want to change
Minneapolis is in the center of the region; easier to get any particular
place if I must.
Strong tradition of civic involvement and community decision-making
Several parks and two lakes within walking distance

As I said, this is a personal list.

The context was a discussion of property taxes (I believe Beth P.'s for sale
info). My point is that even if I pay a few hundred dollars more in property
taxes in Minneapolis, it's well worth it for what I get.

Others, of course, disagree.

I know some people make all their decisions based on the lowest cost. The
risk there is ignoring value  - which I get in Minneapolis, by my personal
standards. Thus, you couldn't pay me to live in Fridley - a few hundred
bucks wouldn't tip the value equation in my favor.

By the way, I recently sold my house for three times what I paid for it in
1994, so Minneapolis is no slouch in the bucks department, either!

Rah, rah Minneapolis!

David Brauer
King Field by choice


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[Mpls] North Side Rules

2003-03-23 Thread Craig Miller
Let's have 3 cheers for the North Side.

North and Henry Rule

How about one more game at Target.  Henry Vs North for the State
Championship.

Craig Miller
Former North Sider


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Re: [Mpls] Property Taxes for a Mpls Home (compared to affordable housing in North Oaks)

2003-03-23 Thread Barbara Lickness
Vicki-

I couldn't live in Fridley either and it has nothing
to do with Fridley or the good people that live there.

I am a city girl. I was raised in the city and I love
living in the city.  I purposely picked one of the
most densely populated neighborhoods in the State to
live in because I love the hustle and bustle, the
diversity and the crazies that live here. I could
have lived without the criminal element but we worked
to make that issue better here. 

I tried to live in the suburbs during my transient
days as a single women and renter all too many years
ago now. I worked in Eden Prairie. I thought I could
avoid the commute if I lived in the suburbs. I tried
Hopkins, Bloomington and Minnetonka. I kept driving
into the city for my fun. So, I figured I should just
stop fighting my need to live in the city and move
back in. I haven't looked back. 

When I lived in San Francisco, I lived in North Beach.
When I lived in Toronto, I lived in the city. I just
like the city. 

Barb Lickness
Whittier

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[Mpls] north high victory

2003-03-23 Thread andrew korf \\\\


congratulations to the north high polars in their victory in the state
basketball tourney last night. great to see all the positive things coming
out of the north side in these otherwise disturbing times.



.andrew korf on the north east side


It is no longer good enough to cry peace, we must act peace, live peace and
live in peace.
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[Mpls] Will Gay and lesbian commuters benefit from BRT/Hwy 81/West Bro plans?

2003-03-23 Thread PennBroKeith
Made ya' look -- probably added 200 gawkers on this one.

There has been no particular response to my post regarding West Broadway 
Zoning proposals, redevelopment of Hwy 81, nor the coming of BRT (Bus Rapid 
Transit) to our Northwest Quadrant of the City. I am saddened when 
Northsiders, who are the most direct stakeholders in these matters, are 
silent. I am disappointed when the rest of The List, who are mostly 
Southsiders, reveal closed minded Southcentricity, by their silence. As this 
City grows larger; the virtual distance between our largest commercial 
corridors shall diminish. Outcomes, planned now, shall affect all City 
dwellers directly The braintrust of most active posters must not, as yet, 
realize; the brain still needs to know what is happening at the bowel.

Keith Reitman  NearNorth  

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[Mpls] Discipline

2003-03-23 Thread Anderson Turpin
I sent out an e-mail to this List almost three months ago, telling everyone
that I would keep track of discipline on the Mpls List, since the powers
that be will not disclose that information.  I received four messages that
first week, with items to include on my spreadsheet.  And nothing since.  I
guess I need to put my e-mail address out there again to let everyone know.
Any discipline you receive on this List please send to me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Include the following information:

Your name
Your e-mail address
Date of offending post
Subject of offending post
Reason for discipline
What was discipline?

Based on what little I've received so far, it doesn't appear that our List
manager is out of control.  Not that I thought that was the case, but I did
(and still do) want confirmation.  I've received very few responses on which
to make this preliminary judgment, but I think if the List manager was being
outrageous, his victim would have searched me out and sent the particulars.
But I would like to receive more data.

As I said in my original e-mail, I will send this spreadsheet to anyone who
asks for it.

Mark Anderson
Bancroft



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[Mpls] Kondirator

2003-03-23 Thread Phyllis Kahn
The saga continues. Excellent story by Steve Brandt in today's STrib. (I
couldn't get to the exact link but others can try by going to
www.startribune.com and then to the metro section and then find AIS
story.) My prediction years ago that the Kondirator would never be built
looks better and better. The villains (or dupes ) in this story are the
Republican legislators,  (after $40,000+ in campaign contributions,)
along with Gov. Arne Carlson  who would not pass legislation to stop the
project  and council members who allowed  the Isaacs to rip off $8.5
million from city taxpayers by not appealing a court decision to the
Supreme Court. Those who are left (Not resigning or defeated) and who
voted badly include Paul Ostrow, Barb Johnson, Lisa Goodman, Sandy
Colvin Roy, Barrett Lane. I don't know about Dean Zimmerman and I'm sure
if my list is wrong some one will tell me.
The only bright spot is that we get the river back but it sure would be
nice to have the $8.5 million now. 

Phyllis KahnState Rep 59B

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Re: [Mpls] Kondirator/Your Cheap shot in the Blame Game

2003-03-23 Thread PennBroKeith
In a message dated 3/23/03 2:21:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The villains (or dupes ) in this story are the
  Republican legislators,  (after $40,000+ in campaign contributions,)
  along with Gov. Arne Carlson  who would not pass legislation to stop the
  project  and council members who allowed  the Isaacs to rip off $8.5
  million from city taxpayers by not appealing a court decision to the
  Supreme Court. Those who are left (Not resigning or defeated) and who
  voted badly include Paul Ostrow, Barb Johnson, Lisa Goodman, Sandy
  Colvin Roy, Barrett Lane. I don't know about Dean Zimmerman and I'm sure
  if my list is wrong some one will tell me.
  The only bright spot is that we get the river back but it sure would be
  nice to have the $8.5 million now. 
  
  Phyllis KahnState Rep 59B
  
Keith says; Starting at the end. It was most prudent to settle an un-winable 
case. Thanx to those who did what they had to do on behalf of the City. I am 
sure it was no joy. 

My faded memory recalls Sandra Hillary, my CM at the time, getting us in up 
to our ears in potential Kondidator noise. Then Joe Biernat show boating with 
City money, to fight an un-winable fight. Perhaps he hoped he could get the 
DFL Machine to fix the court outcome? Concurrently, he was allowing Graco to 
despoil the opposite river edge with a HUGE and unsightly industrial 
expansion on the Eastern shore at West Bro. 

If anybody else has proper info on shoreline stuff; bring it on.

Keith Reitman   NearNorth

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[Mpls] Taxes vs. Amenities

2003-03-23 Thread Jim Mork
Vicky pretends not to get what David says about living in Fridley. But she 
doesn't fool me at all. Here's a way for everyone to look at it. Pick up 
North Oaks or Fridley and move them 500 miles north and what WOULD be the 
attraction of living either place?  None. The SOLE reason that they attract 
the people who live there is the immediate proximity of Minneapolis and St 
Paul.  Give me a count of the major symphony orchestras in either place. 
Tell me how many Broadway shows you can see in either place.  Count off the 
four-star restaurants in either place. And on and on.  WE have the library 
(or will have). WE have the entertainment.  WE have the culture.  WE have 
the universities (North Oaks score of universities, last I checked, was 
zero).

The fact is that it is our core cities that make this region GO.  The 
suburbs live off the scraps. Moving from Minneapolis to a suburb is sort of 
like sunbathing in the REFLECTION of the sun.



Jim Mork
Cooper

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contradictory military and economic strands of this 'no rivals' policy into 
one seamless approach. This war on terrorism looks more like a war for the 
preservation of US imperial power. That is why countries like France, 
Germany, Russia and China - which have a stake in the dilution of US power 
globally - are at the forefront of international opposition to the impending 
invasion of Iraq.  --Times of India

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[Mpls] Go North High Polars!!

2003-03-23 Thread Emilyjo916
Mark Snyder wrote:
Then I got to watch my own North High Polars win their first 4A Boys' State Basketball 
Championship since 1997 in an absolutely heart-stopping 82-73 double-overtime victory 
over Osseo.  The Polars were led by seniors Kammron Taylor, who's going to Wisconsin 
next year and seven-footer James Davis,
who's still uncommitted.

Congratulations to the hometown cagers!  You all did us real proud!

Mark Snyder
Windom Park
North High class of 1990

Emily Nancy Ero-Phillips here:

Congrats again North High!  We're loyal to you Northside High . We'll wear white 
and blue Northside High . . . You're the best!!  

Emily Nancy Ero-Phillips
A Northsider by Choice
North High Grad - 1964


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[Mpls] Airport issues community meeting

2003-03-23 Thread Mike McAneney
I'm forwarding an invitation to all Minneapolis (and South Metro) citzens to
Residents Opposed to Airport Racket's Spring meeting.



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At a time when our nation is engaged in war, and when we are all hoping for
a swift, successful conclusion to hostilities, it's difficult to think about
ordinary, day-to-day concerns.  But there have been many changes in the MAC,
at the Legislature, at Northwest Airlines and in the aviation community, so:



Please attend the ROAR SPRING COMMUNITY MEETING

Tuesday, March 25, 7 - 9 pm

Our Lady of Peace Catholic Church (5435 11th Av. S.)



Bring your questions and ideas!  We'll explore what's up with the Sound
Insulation Program, expansion at the airport, and the character of the new
Metropolitan Airports Commission.  Minneapolis Mayor RT Rybak and State
Representative Frank Hornstein will be on hand to discuss city and state
relationships with the new MAC.  Enjoy dessert from Wuollets and coffee with
your neighbors.  Please bring the kids - entertainment will be provided by
premier magician The Amazing Jeffo.



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http://www.quiettheskies.org






By the way, did you see the news about the 4000 gallon jet fuel spill over
56th and Chicago on Friday?  Here's a link:



http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3773461.html



Mike McAneney, Tangletown


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[Mpls] This Week in The Minneapolis Observer

2003-03-23 Thread Craig Cox
T H E  M I N N E A P O L I S  O B S E R V E R
A Weekly Digest of All Things Minneapolitan
www.mplsobserver.com
Vol. 2, No. 32
March 24, 2003

This is a preview of this week's Observer. Check out a sample issue at
www.mplsobserver.com. To subscribe ($12/yr.), just hit reply and we'll
set you up. Thanks.

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THIS WEEK IN THE OBSERVER:
* Fire Department May Need Suburban Help
* Does Burning Trash Equal Renewable Energy?
* Fine Line Set to Reopen in Early May
* Selvaggio to Study Regional Philanthropy
* You Are What You Read
Plus: Color-blind at MIA, mediation blues, remembering Wally Karbo, a
lesson from the Republicans, and faith in a seed.

**

FIRE DEPARTMENT MAY NEED SUBURBAN HELP
Fire Chief Rocco Forte is negotiating agreements with nearby suburban fire
departments to help maintain response times in the face of a 7 percent
budget cut and the loss of 50 firefighters.

Realistically, our worst-case scenario contingency plan could be our
every-day working plan, Forte told Scott Russell in the Southwest Journal
(http://www.swjournal.com). Though the department has always been able to
call on suburban firefighters to help out during particularly large fires,
Forte is pushing for automatic aid agreements that would allow the
closest fire rigs--suburban or city--to respond to blazes. It erases the
lines, he said.

Fire chiefs in Richfield, Edina, and St. Louis Park each have said they
were open to such an agreement, but firefighters union president Tom
Thornberg said he doubts any local department has the resources to share:
Everyone is going--'Do we have enough to take care of ourselves, let alone
helping out the other community?'

The move is just one of many Forte is considering during the current budget
crunch, brought on by an expected $21 million cut in local government aid
proposed by Republican Governor Tim Pawlenty. Forte is also cutting the
number of firefighters on each rig and has even proposed selling corporate
sponsorships of fire trucks. The union is lobbying for a false-alarm fee
and a quarter-percent city tax to shore up police and fire department
budgets. We are trying to open doors we have never dreamed of before,
said Thornberg. Anything we can do to save jobs and staff rigs adequately.

DOES BURNING TRASH EQUAL RENEWABLE ENERGY?
The downtown trash burner, which emits neurotoxic mercury and
cancer-causing dioxin, would be designated a renewable energy source
under a bill currently moving through the state legislature.

FINE LINE SET TO REOPEN IN EARLY MAY
The Fine Line Music Cafe, scorched last month by an ill-advised
pyrotechnics display, is taking the opportunity to renovate and is
scheduled to reopen in early May.

SELVAGGIO WILL STUDY PHILANTHROPY
Project for Pride in Living founder Joe Selvaggio has been awarded a
one-year, $100,000 fellowship to study philanthropy in the region, reports
Mark Anderson in Finance and Commerce (http://www.finance-commerce.com).


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Writing off the Northside... Re: [Mpls] Will Gay and lesbian commuters benefit from BRT/Hwy 81/West Bro plans?

2003-03-23 Thread Dyna
	Your pretty much right on this one Keith- the powers that be have 
pretty much written off the Northside. That anyone is taking the busway 
seriously shows how ignorant they are of our transportation resources 
like the rail line from downtown to Monticello, former 90+ mile per 
hour route of the Empire Builder. The West Broadway rebuild has lots of 
potential, but our city planners are bound and determined that Broadway 
will never again be an auto row. IIRC, West Broadway was once home to 
Ford, Mercury, Chevrolet, and Dodge dealers, and I think maybe American 
Motors too. With suburban land going for over a million dollars an acre 
auto row might be lured back... but N...

	Keith, what it comes down to is I think the southsiders don't 
understand our Northside working class history of railroads, cars, and 
a working river. They'd prefer to remake us in the image of their 
southside, coffee shops, culture vultures, and all. Failing that, 
they'd just as soon abandon the northside to the gangs and sex 
offenders.

	hanging on in Hawthorne,

		Dyna Sluyter

On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 02:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Made ya' look -- probably added 200 gawkers on this one.

There has been no particular response to my post regarding West 
Broadway
Zoning proposals, redevelopment of Hwy 81, nor the coming of BRT (Bus 
Rapid
Transit) to our Northwest Quadrant of the City. I am saddened when
Northsiders, who are the most direct stakeholders in these matters, are
silent. I am disappointed when the rest of The List, who are mostly
Southsiders, reveal closed minded Southcentricity, by their silence. 
As this
City grows larger; the virtual distance between our largest commercial
corridors shall diminish. Outcomes, planned now, shall affect all City
dwellers directly The braintrust of most active posters must not, as 
yet,
realize; the brain still needs to know what is happening at the bowel.

Keith Reitman  NearNorth

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