Re: [Mpls] protests and police
Original Message Follows From: Michael C. Libby [EMAIL PROTECTED] That the protestors and police seemed to have learned to get along is encouraging to me. Yes, there was obviously some tension, but I think protests trying to stay out of bike and bus lanes and police keeping everyone safe from traffic incidents is progress. (JM) I have a different take on this. First off, the over reaction o fthe police to Critical Mass (at least the one that was widely covered by the media and on this list) took place last March under Rybak's watch. Rybak responded by meeting with CMers and ordering the police to back off later rides and later (briefly) joining a ride himself. Perhaps just a clarification of your message since the result is the same. Rybak did work to tone down police efforts. As to the police laying off the anti-war demos - whereas I agree that they could be over reacting and Rybak may deserve some credit I'd say it has as much to do with the (entirely peaceful) tactics of the demonstrators then anything else. Historically, Minneapolis anti-war demonstrations have had more of a radical edge than what I see presently. In 1987, for example, a March opposing a US deployment of troops to Honduras (Reagan had sent them after some Nicaraguan troops had chased Contras back across the Honduran border. He announced that this was to prevent a Nicaraguan invasion of Honduras) there were a number of rallys including one where a bowling ball was thrown the the window of the Armed Forces recruiting center on Lake St. In San Francisico this year, which you mentioned, the demonstrators are deliberately blocking intersections to stop traffic. Nothing like that is happening here. Nor are there large organized radical groups to support actions like the bowling ball one. At least they're not as visible as they were in '87 (Coalition partners then included the Progressive Student Organization from the U of M and the Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League (RABL) There was also an anarchist bookstore in town) I need to note, that the peace movement in '87 fractured over the bowling ball action. It certainly wasn't anything everyone agreed should happen. Women Against Military Madness left the coalition and later coalition marches went on after reaching consensus that they wouldn't support destruction of property. The police, perhaps understandably, were less restrained then they have been recently. To sum it up - I think the police are restrained because the demonstrators have been peaceful. A prolonged war or future armed conflicts initiated by the present administration may change that as people get more angry. I'm making no predictions. Jim McGuire Como _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] KMOJ faces restructuring, relocation and board oversight issues
KMOJ in crisis: By: Shannon Gibney Minnesota Spokesman-Recorder Originally posted 3/20/2003 As station faces restructuring and relocation, some challenge the current boards oversight First in a two-part story At a meeting Saturday, March 15, to address the state of KMOJ radio, some community members asserted that the station could go off the air in December because of the board of directors failure to apply for construction permits with the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and failure to file an annual report with the State of Minnesota Attorney Generals Office in 2001. Meeting participants also alleged that KMOJ board members are not following the organizations bylaws; characterized the stations new public affairs programming as unfairly selected; and stated that many board members have been on the board too long and have conflicting interests. Community activists Duane Reed, Travis Lee, and Booker Hodges said that nothing short of the full resignation of the KMOJ board of directors was necessary to begin the tenuous process of rebuilding the public trust that they claim has been violated. KMOJ was created as a public, community radio station on June 22, 1976, Lee told the group of about 30 present at Café Tatta Bunna. The purpose of the station was to inform the community on various events, and put their own perspective, their cultural perspective, on an otherwise whitewashed media. Ive watched the station deteriorate and fail to grow in the last 25 or so odd years, Lee continued. If you look at the station right now, you cant tell if its 76 or 2003, and I think thats a case of gross neglect in our community. I hope that what this meeting does is serve as something thats not often done in Minnesota is to police our own community, instead of waiting for other folks to come in and take over because of our own neglect. http://www.spokesman-recorder.com Shawn Lewis, Field Neighborhood -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Articele: MN Spokesman on I-35 and Lake Street
Is I-35 expansion another Rondo? By: Isaac Peterson, III Minnesota Spokesman-Recorder Originally posted 3/20/2003 Some residents oppose tearing up the neighborhood for the convenience of suburban commuters Do the urban planning and economic development policies used in planning the I-35 and Lake Street expansions in South Minneapolis contribute to racial injustice in Minneapolis? Do those plans alleviate problems for African Americans and others of color, or add to them? We have previously reported on the dimensions of the planned expansions of Lake Street and I-35, and who is involved in making those plans (Spokesman-Recorder November 7 and 14, 2002). The plans, as described, would widen Lake Street, add a flyover ramp that would increase access to Abbott Northwestern Hospital and the Wells Fargo facility formerly owned by Honeywell, and add areas planners claim will beautify the area (called mitigation and enhancement.). But will expanding access to that area be beneficial to residents in the long run? The debate still rages. Supporters of the project claim that it will help revitalize the area, while opponents say that the area is already being revitalized by residents and new businesses started primarily by people of color. http://www.spokesman-recorder.com Shawn Lewis, Field Neighborhood -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Property Taxes for a Mpls Home (compared to affordable housing in North Oaks)
David Brauer wrote: Couldn't pay me to live in Fridley, no matter how friendly Vicky comments: One has to wonder what's behind a comment like that - is there something wrong with the people who live in Fridley? Since similar attacks have been hurled at North Oaks, I thought that I would take this opportunity to compare two houses for sale - one in Minneapolis and one in North Oaks. From the MLS listings this morning: www.themlsonline.com. Check them out yourself MINNEAPOLIS: 4741 Humboldt Avenue S - MLS# 2122081 3 BR/2 bath 2,678 square feet 1/4 acre lot Asking price $589,900 Taxes: $6,153 NORTH OAKS: 47 South Deep Lake Road - MLS#2097009 4 BR/3 bath 3,016 square feet 1.15 acre lot Asking price $409,900 Taxes: $2,252, plus association fee of $650 per year .and the water is free Vicky Heller Taxed out of Minneapolis, now living in North Oaks TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Property Taxes for a Mpls Home (compared to affordable housing in North Oaks)
David Brauer wrote: Couldn't pay me to live in Fridley, no matter how friendly Vicky comments: One has to wonder what's behind a comment like that - is there something wrong with the people who live in Fridley? Since similar attacks have been hurled at North Oaks, I thought that I would take this opportunity to compare two houses for sale - one in Minneapolis and one in North Oaks. From the MLS listings this morning: www.themlsonline.com. Check them out yourself All you have to do is ask. It's called freedom of choice. My strictly personal standards - and nothing personal against Fridley folks. Nothing to do with not living in North Oaks (although many of the same reasons apply). My reasons for Minneapolis over Fridley: It's closer to my job. Minneapolis is more livable without a car - I don't have to commute miles on highways (yuck!) It's much closer to many more cultural attractions We have a kid in the school system here and so far it's great, so we don't want to change Minneapolis is in the center of the region; easier to get any particular place if I must. Strong tradition of civic involvement and community decision-making Several parks and two lakes within walking distance As I said, this is a personal list. The context was a discussion of property taxes (I believe Beth P.'s for sale info). My point is that even if I pay a few hundred dollars more in property taxes in Minneapolis, it's well worth it for what I get. Others, of course, disagree. I know some people make all their decisions based on the lowest cost. The risk there is ignoring value - which I get in Minneapolis, by my personal standards. Thus, you couldn't pay me to live in Fridley - a few hundred bucks wouldn't tip the value equation in my favor. By the way, I recently sold my house for three times what I paid for it in 1994, so Minneapolis is no slouch in the bucks department, either! Rah, rah Minneapolis! David Brauer King Field by choice TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] North Side Rules
Let's have 3 cheers for the North Side. North and Henry Rule How about one more game at Target. Henry Vs North for the State Championship. Craig Miller Former North Sider TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Property Taxes for a Mpls Home (compared to affordable housing in North Oaks)
Vicki- I couldn't live in Fridley either and it has nothing to do with Fridley or the good people that live there. I am a city girl. I was raised in the city and I love living in the city. I purposely picked one of the most densely populated neighborhoods in the State to live in because I love the hustle and bustle, the diversity and the crazies that live here. I could have lived without the criminal element but we worked to make that issue better here. I tried to live in the suburbs during my transient days as a single women and renter all too many years ago now. I worked in Eden Prairie. I thought I could avoid the commute if I lived in the suburbs. I tried Hopkins, Bloomington and Minnetonka. I kept driving into the city for my fun. So, I figured I should just stop fighting my need to live in the city and move back in. I haven't looked back. When I lived in San Francisco, I lived in North Beach. When I lived in Toronto, I lived in the city. I just like the city. Barb Lickness Whittier = Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] north high victory
congratulations to the north high polars in their victory in the state basketball tourney last night. great to see all the positive things coming out of the north side in these otherwise disturbing times. .andrew korf on the north east side It is no longer good enough to cry peace, we must act peace, live peace and live in peace. Shenandoah saying TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Will Gay and lesbian commuters benefit from BRT/Hwy 81/West Bro plans?
Made ya' look -- probably added 200 gawkers on this one. There has been no particular response to my post regarding West Broadway Zoning proposals, redevelopment of Hwy 81, nor the coming of BRT (Bus Rapid Transit) to our Northwest Quadrant of the City. I am saddened when Northsiders, who are the most direct stakeholders in these matters, are silent. I am disappointed when the rest of The List, who are mostly Southsiders, reveal closed minded Southcentricity, by their silence. As this City grows larger; the virtual distance between our largest commercial corridors shall diminish. Outcomes, planned now, shall affect all City dwellers directly The braintrust of most active posters must not, as yet, realize; the brain still needs to know what is happening at the bowel. Keith Reitman NearNorth TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Discipline
I sent out an e-mail to this List almost three months ago, telling everyone that I would keep track of discipline on the Mpls List, since the powers that be will not disclose that information. I received four messages that first week, with items to include on my spreadsheet. And nothing since. I guess I need to put my e-mail address out there again to let everyone know. Any discipline you receive on this List please send to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Include the following information: Your name Your e-mail address Date of offending post Subject of offending post Reason for discipline What was discipline? Based on what little I've received so far, it doesn't appear that our List manager is out of control. Not that I thought that was the case, but I did (and still do) want confirmation. I've received very few responses on which to make this preliminary judgment, but I think if the List manager was being outrageous, his victim would have searched me out and sent the particulars. But I would like to receive more data. As I said in my original e-mail, I will send this spreadsheet to anyone who asks for it. Mark Anderson Bancroft TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Kondirator
The saga continues. Excellent story by Steve Brandt in today's STrib. (I couldn't get to the exact link but others can try by going to www.startribune.com and then to the metro section and then find AIS story.) My prediction years ago that the Kondirator would never be built looks better and better. The villains (or dupes ) in this story are the Republican legislators, (after $40,000+ in campaign contributions,) along with Gov. Arne Carlson who would not pass legislation to stop the project and council members who allowed the Isaacs to rip off $8.5 million from city taxpayers by not appealing a court decision to the Supreme Court. Those who are left (Not resigning or defeated) and who voted badly include Paul Ostrow, Barb Johnson, Lisa Goodman, Sandy Colvin Roy, Barrett Lane. I don't know about Dean Zimmerman and I'm sure if my list is wrong some one will tell me. The only bright spot is that we get the river back but it sure would be nice to have the $8.5 million now. Phyllis KahnState Rep 59B TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Kondirator/Your Cheap shot in the Blame Game
In a message dated 3/23/03 2:21:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The villains (or dupes ) in this story are the Republican legislators, (after $40,000+ in campaign contributions,) along with Gov. Arne Carlson who would not pass legislation to stop the project and council members who allowed the Isaacs to rip off $8.5 million from city taxpayers by not appealing a court decision to the Supreme Court. Those who are left (Not resigning or defeated) and who voted badly include Paul Ostrow, Barb Johnson, Lisa Goodman, Sandy Colvin Roy, Barrett Lane. I don't know about Dean Zimmerman and I'm sure if my list is wrong some one will tell me. The only bright spot is that we get the river back but it sure would be nice to have the $8.5 million now. Phyllis KahnState Rep 59B Keith says; Starting at the end. It was most prudent to settle an un-winable case. Thanx to those who did what they had to do on behalf of the City. I am sure it was no joy. My faded memory recalls Sandra Hillary, my CM at the time, getting us in up to our ears in potential Kondidator noise. Then Joe Biernat show boating with City money, to fight an un-winable fight. Perhaps he hoped he could get the DFL Machine to fix the court outcome? Concurrently, he was allowing Graco to despoil the opposite river edge with a HUGE and unsightly industrial expansion on the Eastern shore at West Bro. If anybody else has proper info on shoreline stuff; bring it on. Keith Reitman NearNorth TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Taxes vs. Amenities
Vicky pretends not to get what David says about living in Fridley. But she doesn't fool me at all. Here's a way for everyone to look at it. Pick up North Oaks or Fridley and move them 500 miles north and what WOULD be the attraction of living either place? None. The SOLE reason that they attract the people who live there is the immediate proximity of Minneapolis and St Paul. Give me a count of the major symphony orchestras in either place. Tell me how many Broadway shows you can see in either place. Count off the four-star restaurants in either place. And on and on. WE have the library (or will have). WE have the entertainment. WE have the culture. WE have the universities (North Oaks score of universities, last I checked, was zero). The fact is that it is our core cities that make this region GO. The suburbs live off the scraps. Moving from Minneapolis to a suburb is sort of like sunbathing in the REFLECTION of the sun. Jim Mork Cooper What 9/11 has done is to pull together the diverse and sometimes contradictory military and economic strands of this 'no rivals' policy into one seamless approach. This war on terrorism looks more like a war for the preservation of US imperial power. That is why countries like France, Germany, Russia and China - which have a stake in the dilution of US power globally - are at the forefront of international opposition to the impending invasion of Iraq. --Times of India We hold these truths to be self-evidentthat governments are formed, deriving their just powers by the consent of the governedDeclaration of Independence _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Go North High Polars!!
Mark Snyder wrote: Then I got to watch my own North High Polars win their first 4A Boys' State Basketball Championship since 1997 in an absolutely heart-stopping 82-73 double-overtime victory over Osseo. The Polars were led by seniors Kammron Taylor, who's going to Wisconsin next year and seven-footer James Davis, who's still uncommitted. Congratulations to the hometown cagers! You all did us real proud! Mark Snyder Windom Park North High class of 1990 Emily Nancy Ero-Phillips here: Congrats again North High! We're loyal to you Northside High . We'll wear white and blue Northside High . . . You're the best!! Emily Nancy Ero-Phillips A Northsider by Choice North High Grad - 1964 TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Airport issues community meeting
I'm forwarding an invitation to all Minneapolis (and South Metro) citzens to Residents Opposed to Airport Racket's Spring meeting. === At a time when our nation is engaged in war, and when we are all hoping for a swift, successful conclusion to hostilities, it's difficult to think about ordinary, day-to-day concerns. But there have been many changes in the MAC, at the Legislature, at Northwest Airlines and in the aviation community, so: Please attend the ROAR SPRING COMMUNITY MEETING Tuesday, March 25, 7 - 9 pm Our Lady of Peace Catholic Church (5435 11th Av. S.) Bring your questions and ideas! We'll explore what's up with the Sound Insulation Program, expansion at the airport, and the character of the new Metropolitan Airports Commission. Minneapolis Mayor RT Rybak and State Representative Frank Hornstein will be on hand to discuss city and state relationships with the new MAC. Enjoy dessert from Wuollets and coffee with your neighbors. Please bring the kids - entertainment will be provided by premier magician The Amazing Jeffo. To subscribe to ROAR's email list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or go to our home page at http://www.quiettheskies.org By the way, did you see the news about the 4000 gallon jet fuel spill over 56th and Chicago on Friday? Here's a link: http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3773461.html Mike McAneney, Tangletown TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] This Week in The Minneapolis Observer
T H E M I N N E A P O L I S O B S E R V E R A Weekly Digest of All Things Minneapolitan www.mplsobserver.com Vol. 2, No. 32 March 24, 2003 This is a preview of this week's Observer. Check out a sample issue at www.mplsobserver.com. To subscribe ($12/yr.), just hit reply and we'll set you up. Thanks. ** THIS WEEK IN THE OBSERVER: * Fire Department May Need Suburban Help * Does Burning Trash Equal Renewable Energy? * Fine Line Set to Reopen in Early May * Selvaggio to Study Regional Philanthropy * You Are What You Read Plus: Color-blind at MIA, mediation blues, remembering Wally Karbo, a lesson from the Republicans, and faith in a seed. ** FIRE DEPARTMENT MAY NEED SUBURBAN HELP Fire Chief Rocco Forte is negotiating agreements with nearby suburban fire departments to help maintain response times in the face of a 7 percent budget cut and the loss of 50 firefighters. Realistically, our worst-case scenario contingency plan could be our every-day working plan, Forte told Scott Russell in the Southwest Journal (http://www.swjournal.com). Though the department has always been able to call on suburban firefighters to help out during particularly large fires, Forte is pushing for automatic aid agreements that would allow the closest fire rigs--suburban or city--to respond to blazes. It erases the lines, he said. Fire chiefs in Richfield, Edina, and St. Louis Park each have said they were open to such an agreement, but firefighters union president Tom Thornberg said he doubts any local department has the resources to share: Everyone is going--'Do we have enough to take care of ourselves, let alone helping out the other community?' The move is just one of many Forte is considering during the current budget crunch, brought on by an expected $21 million cut in local government aid proposed by Republican Governor Tim Pawlenty. Forte is also cutting the number of firefighters on each rig and has even proposed selling corporate sponsorships of fire trucks. The union is lobbying for a false-alarm fee and a quarter-percent city tax to shore up police and fire department budgets. We are trying to open doors we have never dreamed of before, said Thornberg. Anything we can do to save jobs and staff rigs adequately. DOES BURNING TRASH EQUAL RENEWABLE ENERGY? The downtown trash burner, which emits neurotoxic mercury and cancer-causing dioxin, would be designated a renewable energy source under a bill currently moving through the state legislature. FINE LINE SET TO REOPEN IN EARLY MAY The Fine Line Music Cafe, scorched last month by an ill-advised pyrotechnics display, is taking the opportunity to renovate and is scheduled to reopen in early May. SELVAGGIO WILL STUDY PHILANTHROPY Project for Pride in Living founder Joe Selvaggio has been awarded a one-year, $100,000 fellowship to study philanthropy in the region, reports Mark Anderson in Finance and Commerce (http://www.finance-commerce.com). ** The Minneapolis Observer is published 48 times/year by Independent Media, L.L.C. ©2003 Independent Media, 4152 Snelling Ave., Minneapolis, MN 55406; www.mplsobserver.com. No part of this publication may be reprinted without the permission of Independent Media. Subscriptions: $12/yr. To unsubscribe, send us an e-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and we'll get you off the list and refund the unused portion of your subscription. Editor: Craig Cox Deputy Assistant Senior Executive Editor: Sharon Parker Contributing writers: Chris Dodge, Leo Mezzrow Equine consultant and coffee shop correspondent: Nora Cox Perspective: Martin Cox *** Fight media consolidation! Support the independent press! Pick up your neighborhood newspaper! *** TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Writing off the Northside... Re: [Mpls] Will Gay and lesbian commuters benefit from BRT/Hwy 81/West Bro plans?
Your pretty much right on this one Keith- the powers that be have pretty much written off the Northside. That anyone is taking the busway seriously shows how ignorant they are of our transportation resources like the rail line from downtown to Monticello, former 90+ mile per hour route of the Empire Builder. The West Broadway rebuild has lots of potential, but our city planners are bound and determined that Broadway will never again be an auto row. IIRC, West Broadway was once home to Ford, Mercury, Chevrolet, and Dodge dealers, and I think maybe American Motors too. With suburban land going for over a million dollars an acre auto row might be lured back... but N... Keith, what it comes down to is I think the southsiders don't understand our Northside working class history of railroads, cars, and a working river. They'd prefer to remake us in the image of their southside, coffee shops, culture vultures, and all. Failing that, they'd just as soon abandon the northside to the gangs and sex offenders. hanging on in Hawthorne, Dyna Sluyter On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 02:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Made ya' look -- probably added 200 gawkers on this one. There has been no particular response to my post regarding West Broadway Zoning proposals, redevelopment of Hwy 81, nor the coming of BRT (Bus Rapid Transit) to our Northwest Quadrant of the City. I am saddened when Northsiders, who are the most direct stakeholders in these matters, are silent. I am disappointed when the rest of The List, who are mostly Southsiders, reveal closed minded Southcentricity, by their silence. As this City grows larger; the virtual distance between our largest commercial corridors shall diminish. Outcomes, planned now, shall affect all City dwellers directly The braintrust of most active posters must not, as yet, realize; the brain still needs to know what is happening at the bowel. Keith Reitman NearNorth TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls