[Mpls] Agenda Update
Link broke goto the city main site bottom middle official pubs and notes click then click council committee meeting schedules agendas then click standing committees then click public safety and reg services then click meeting schedule then click current/committee agenda pull down window and select public saf/reg services 3-26-03 Anyone got a faster way to the link? Craig Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Craig Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Issues Mpls [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: [Mpls] Doing in the small city landlord Check out tomorrow's Public Safety and Regulatory Services Agenda. http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/council/2003-meetings/20030404/PSRS20030326a genda.asp City staff has teamed up with 504 to fund the further destruction of affordable rental housing. This time the bogeyman is lead. Is there lead in rental housing? Yes Is there lead in 90% of all the housing in the city, including single family homes? Yes Is charging $3.00 per unit per year to fund big lead hunters going to make more affordable housing available? No Are big lead hunters going to find big lead ? Yes Are rental properties going to be targeted? Yes Are rental properties going to go vacant and eventually be destroyed? Yes Has Project 504 discovered another way to fund the destruction of rental property owners or the taking over of their property??? Are there going to be programs available to protect the life savings of a single elderly women who has relied on the rent from her duplex for the last twenty years? No, don't let anybody fool you. The landlord will pay for this or they will stop renting. Or worse yet, the unit will go unoccupied, and you know what happens then. Soon the landlord (suburban or your neighbor) loses the property. Call your city council member, especially if it's Niziolek, Samuels, Colvin Roy, Johnson Ostrow Zerby Tell them to vote no tomorrow unless the city has a program to pay for all the work orders that are going to be drawn up. This is going to devalue each and every piece of rental housing in the city by a large chunk. It will also drive up insurance rates on all housing in the city. The means for proving that the owner of the property ( this includes former homeowners) had prior knowledge of lead just got lower. The grounds for lawsuit just got lower. Mpls property owners already pay extra premium for various sins of city policy. Now we'll just have to pay more. Craig Miller Former Mpls Landlord living in Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Agenda Update
Yes, stick the genda.asp back on the end. http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/council/2003-meetings/20030404/PSRS20030326a genda.asp Craig, your note was grounded in your experience as a landlord. I'm curious whether you could muster up any arguments to counter your own. Is it a worthless endeavor to find and remove lead because it is so prevalent in the city? Since a rented residence is in effect a business, should it be held to a higher level of accountability of health standards than a private owner occupied dwelling? Btw, I have no information on how prevalent it is, but I would be interested to see your source. Regards, Jason Stone / Nokomis --- Craig Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Link broke goto the city main site bottom middle official pubs and notes click then click council committee meeting schedules agendas then click standing committees then click public safety and reg services then click meeting schedule then click current/committee agenda pull down window and select public saf/reg services 3-26-03 Anyone got a faster way to the link? Craig Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Craig Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Issues Mpls [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: [Mpls] Doing in the small city landlord Check out tomorrow's Public Safety and Regulatory Services Agenda. http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/council/2003-meetings/20030404/PSRS20030326a genda.asp City staff has teamed up with 504 to fund the further destruction of affordable rental housing. This time the bogeyman is lead. Is there lead in rental housing? Yes Is there lead in 90% of all the housing in the city, including single family homes? Yes Is charging $3.00 per unit per year to fund big lead hunters going to make more affordable housing available? No Are big lead hunters going to find big lead ? Yes Are rental properties going to be targeted? Yes Are rental properties going to go vacant and eventually be destroyed? Yes Has Project 504 discovered another way to fund the destruction of rental property owners or the taking over of their property??? Are there going to be programs available to protect the life savings of a single elderly women who has relied on the rent from her duplex for the last twenty years? No, don't let anybody fool you. The landlord will pay for this or they will stop renting. Or worse yet, the unit will go unoccupied, and you know what happens then. Soon the landlord (suburban or your neighbor) loses the property. Call your city council member, especially if it's Niziolek, Samuels, Colvin Roy, Johnson Ostrow Zerby Tell them to vote no tomorrow unless the city has a program to pay for all the work orders that are going to be drawn up. This is going to devalue each and every piece of rental housing in the city by a large chunk. It will also drive up insurance rates on all housing in the city. The means for proving that the owner of the property ( this includes former homeowners) had prior knowledge of lead just got lower. The grounds for lawsuit just got lower. Mpls property owners already pay extra premium for various sins of city policy. Now we'll just have to pay more. Craig Miller Former Mpls Landlord living in Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Agenda Update/lead issues
Jason Stone asked how prevalent lead is in rental housing. According to the Request for City Council Committee Action from the Department of Regulatory Services, 62% of the childhood lead poisoning cases in Minneapolis are generated at rental properties. Wizard Marks did an excellent job of explaining why we should be concerned about lead poisoning. Essentially, our choice is this: we can spend an ounce on prevention now, or spend lots and lots of pounds dealing with the effects of lead poisoning later and not even have a cure to show for it because there is no cure. Here are some of the things that the Children's Environmental Health program (that would be maintained through the $3.00 license surcharge) does: - provides 50% matching funds in replacing lead painted windows and performing other lead reduction work - provides FREE risk assessments and clearance tests when a child has been exposed to lead - provides interest-free loans for lead hazard reduction in collaboration with the Center for Energy and Environment - provides neighborhood lead centers with free or low cost rental of HEPA vacuum cleaners and other resources at 14 locations throughout the city Craig Miller claims that the CEH program results in affordable housing demolition. In fact, as Greg Luce pointed out, the opposite is true. Before the CEH program was started, over 40 affordable housing units were demolished annually due to lead hazards because there were no other options available. There have been ZERO condemnations since the lead hazard program started thanks to the resources listed above that are now available. Craig Miller claims that rental property owners are being unfairly targeted yet again. Perhaps he may have some argument here. I'd personally support a $3.00 surcharge on homeowners in addition to rental properties in order to leverage even more funding. However, as noted above, the majority of lead poisoning cases do, in fact, occur at rental properties. And as pointed out by Jason Stone, a business ought to be held to a higher standard than a privately owned home. There's plenty of precedent for this. All you have to do is flip through the code of ordinances to see the different standards. Craig Miller claims that the program being voted on tomorrow will devalue rental properties. I'd like to see this argument substantiated. How does a program that has been around for years suddenly devalue a property just because the method of funding that program has changed? Instead of whining about having to pay a measly quarter per month per rental unit owned in Minneapolis to maintain this program, maybe more landlords should actually take advantage of the resources offered by CEH and clean up your properties already. We've only known about lead hazards in paint for about 75 years (or at least Western Europe and North Africa did). Once you get the lead hazards eliminated, I'm sure a petition to City Council to eliminate the surcharge would be granted in short order and you can pocket your three bucks again. I'll even bet Project 504 would set up a collection jar for those landlords who cannot come up with that quarter per month up front. I'd be willing to stop by periodically with my spare change. Mark Snyder Windom Park TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
