[Mpls] Matt Thoren
I would like to correct some information that I put out earlier about candidate Matt Thoren. I had been asked about his involvement in the Jordan Area CommunityCouncil which had apparently been listedin his bio or campaign information. Istated that he was not now and had not ever been involved JACC. In fact, he has informed me that between about 1989 and 1991, he was involved and attendedmeetings. My sincere apologies to Mr. Thoren for my error. Anne McCandless Jordan
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Don Samuels is an immigrant??? Has he completed the naturalization process to become a U.S. citizen? However , if you are referring to that fact that he is African - American and AA'S in this country have a history of slavery , then I would suggest that he is as much American as anyone else in this country. andrea jenkins Bryant -Original Message- From: Dennis Plante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 5:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren Interestingly enough, I find myself supporting Don Samuels in the upcoming 3rd ward election. In many ways, you could probably not find two more different indivduals than Don and myself if you tried. I am white, he is african american. I was born into acceptance in this country, he's an immigrant that has had to work very hard for everything he has. Most of my reality related to the suffering of those less fortunate has been formed through what I read and see in the media, Don has actually LIVED the injustice and suffering. What swayed my opinion to become an ardent supporter of Don Samuels? The fact that I truly believe he has a MUCH more broad understanding of the obstacles and issues that have kept the 3rd ward from becoming the great community that it could and should be, than does any other candidate. While there are many candidates running in the upcoming primary election that would, I am sure, do a capable job, I feel I am very fortunate in having the oppotunity to cast my vote for an individual that will finally be able to bring the understanding, wisdom and conviction necessary to this elected position. I have met only a handfull of people in my life that I get the same feeling from. This guy is indeed the real deal. Dennis Plante Jordan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:44:50 -0500 message3.txt _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. http://g.msn.com/8HMFEN/2018 ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
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Yes, he's naturalized and as much an american as anyone else I know. From: "Jenkins, Andrea D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dennis Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Fwd: Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:18:31 -0600 Don Samuels is an immigrant??? Has he completed the naturalization process to become a U.S. citizen? However , if you are referring to that fact that he is African - American and AA'S in this country have a history of slavery , then I would suggest that he is as much American as anyone else in this country. andrea jenkins Bryant -Original Message- From: Dennis Plante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 5:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren Interestingly enough, I find myself supporting Don Samuels in the upcoming 3rd ward election. In many ways, you could probably not find two more different indivduals than Don and myself if you tried. I am white, he is african american. I was born into acceptance in this country, he's an immigrant that has had to work very hard for everything he has. Most of my reality related to the suffering of those less fortunate has been formed through what I read and see in the media, Don has actually LIVED the injustice and suffering. What swayed my opinion to become an ardent supporter of Don Samuels? The fact that I truly believe he has a MUCH more broad understanding of the obstacles and issues that have kept the 3rd ward from becoming the great community that it could and should be, than does any other candidate. While there are many candidates running in the upcoming primary election that would, I am sure, do a capable job, I feel I am very fortunate in having the oppotunity to cast my vote for an individual that will finally be able to bring the understanding, wisdom and conviction necessary to this elected position. I have met only a handfull of people in my life that I get the same feeling from. This guy is indeed the "real deal". Dennis Plante Jordan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:44:50 -0500 message3.txt _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
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Don's been in the US since, I believe, 1973. He in fact came here from Jamaica. Unless there's some law I'm not aware of, he is, as much a citizen of the U.S., as anyone posting on this list. If I'm not mistaken, we all had immigrants somewhere in our deep dark past. Don's deep, dark past just isn't as deep and as dark. Dennis Plante Jordan From: "Jenkins, Andrea D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dennis Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Fwd: Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:18:31 -0600 Don Samuels is an immigrant??? Has he completed the naturalization process to become a U.S. citizen? However , if you are referring to that fact that he is African - American and AA'S in this country have a history of slavery , then I would suggest that he is as much American as anyone else in this country. andrea jenkins Bryant -Original Message- From: Dennis Plante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 5:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren Interestingly enough, I find myself supporting Don Samuels in the upcoming 3rd ward election. In many ways, you could probably not find two more different indivduals than Don and myself if you tried. I am white, he is african american. I was born into acceptance in this country, he's an immigrant that has had to work very hard for everything he has. Most of my reality related to the suffering of those less fortunate has been formed through what I read and see in the media, Don has actually LIVED the injustice and suffering. What swayed my opinion to become an ardent supporter of Don Samuels? The fact that I truly believe he has a MUCH more broad understanding of the obstacles and issues that have kept the 3rd ward from becoming the great community that it could and should be, than does any other candidate. While there are many candidates running in the upcoming primary election that would, I am sure, do a capable job, I feel I am very fortunate in having the oppotunity to cast my vote for an individual that will finally be able to bring the understanding, wisdom and conviction necessary to this elected position. I have met only a handfull of people in my life that I get the same feeling from. This guy is indeed the "real deal". Dennis Plante Jordan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:44:50 -0500 message3.txt _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren
Shawne: I'd really like to understand the motivation for your inquiry. If I'm to understand you correctly, the question you'd like answered by Anne McCandless is whether or not Don Samuels is a person of substance, or a media hype? I am somewhat dismayed by the fact that you would ask for a third person opinion (and I'm assuming here) from someone that you really don't know, to help you come to such a serious conclusion. The future leadership of the 3rd ward hangs in the balance of this election. If you have reservations, or concerns regarding Don Samuels' substance, I suggest you p/u the phone and talk to Don, as this would allowyou to form youropinion on this issue from good information - first-hand... For what it is worth, Anne is dead-on target in her explanation. Don, along w/ several other board members, stopped participating in JACC because of their belief that JACC was too focused on housing related issues (check the expenditures for like neighborhoods for NRP phase I) and not adressing some significant and serious issues within our community. To his credit, Don along with numerous other residents played an integral part in recently seating several board members (on JACC) that DO realize that there is much more work to be done (in our community) than just rehab houses. Further, Don, again along with many others from within our community has put forth a tremendous amount of VOLUNTEER time over the last year in an effort to bring a highly fractionalized neighborhood together. We are currently on the verge of being able to FINALLY unite JACC, JLF and theJordan Jam into a single (much more powerful) focused entity, serving a much wider range of issues than any of them did in the past, separately. If your yardstick for measuring a candidates worthiness (for city council office) is measured by the sheer number of volunteer hours that they have dedicated to their community in recent history, Don would win the election in a landslide. In fact, if the truth were known, I would hazard the guess that in terms of "true" volunteer contributions to a community,the other candidates would probably rather not have to measure themselves against Don. Dennis Plante Jordan Community From: "Anne McCandless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Shawne FitzGerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:52:05 -0600 Mr. Fitzgerald, I am sorry I did not reply to you sooner, but some of us have other things going on today. To say the least, Don Samuels has been an asset to this community. Furthermore, I know that his commitment started long before this campaign was even thought of and will continue whether he wins or loses this election. Like many people, myself included, Don got frustrated with JACC as it was in recent years. It had become wrapped up in NRP and real estate matters and seemed to many of us, to not respond to the needs of the community. Through the work of many people, Don being one of the most active, we picketed against the drug dealers, started a community garden and formed our own neighborhood organization, the Jordan Livability Committee. When the riot occurred, Don had the guts to stand up to outsiders and questions their claims to represent Jordan since they didn't even live here or belong to any neighborhood organizations. For those of you who are not familiar with the dynamics of the African American community, this may seem like a small thing to do. In fact, it was not. It took allot of guts and the risk of being ostracized by the community. It also gave others in the community the courage to stand up and speak out. While we could not stop the county from paying $250 per bag to City, Inc to pick up trash along 26th Ave, I bet they will think twice before doing something like that again without talking to the community first. We have now joined the Livability Forum, JACC and the Jordan Jam into what we hope, will be one more inclusive organization which will speak with an even louder voice. Unlike many who gave up on JACC and organizations like it, Don looked for ways to improve and change. He is also willing to keep trying, and is currently back on the JACC board. Unlike some who use the excuse that they tried once and it didn't work, so the heck with it, Don doesn't give up. Finally, if Don Samuels wins this election it won't be because of mud slinging and half truths. I questioned Toren's use of JACC connections after checking with the staff at JACC who have worked there for at least five years. He has apparently made the claim and it cannot be substantiated. Anne McCandless Jordan - Original Message - From: Shawne FitzGerald To: Anne McCandless Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren Ms. McCandless, I'm an old friend of Margo Ashmore's from college days working
Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren
Ms. McCandless, I'm an old friend of Margo Ashmore's from college days working on her campaign - most recently affixing labels for a mailing. So all on this list knows my bias. The rumor mill has it that during the year Don Samuels served on the JACC board, he attended only four meetings. Do you know the truth of this? And also, what did JACC accomplish that year? Whaat role did Mr. Samuels play in those accomplishments? Actually, I like Mr. Samuels - he and Margo are very close on the issues. I guess the question is, is Mr. Samuels a flash in the pan, a caring man who has enjoyed some good media exposure this past year - or is he more than that, a neighbor and possibly a leader, who has done more than to be interviewed by the media. Shawne FitzGerald Powderhorn Anne McCandless wrote: As a board member of the Jordan Area Community Council, I can assure you the Matt Thoren is not now, and to the of everyone's recollection, has he ever been active with JACC. In fact, nobody even seems to know him.Anne McCandlessJordan
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I guess my thoughts regarding integrity in campaigning practices fell on deaf ears...
I would hope that we could avoid rumors and innuendo as attacks on candidates, but I
guess that says something about how far people are willing and have to go to attempt
defame such a good candidate as Don Samuels.
I am not going to respond directly to the veiled attack on Don. There are those that
are far more qualified then I to answer that question. But I think a better way to
approach campaigning is to stick to facts.
And one of the most important facts is that Don's community involvement neither starts
nor ends with his involvement on JACC. Don was the co-founder of the Jordan
Livability Project â which brought together a group of diverse Jordan residents to
focus on the livability issues which are so important to stable neighborhoods. When
Don lived in St. Paul he was the Chair of the Saint Paul Public Schools Curriculum
Committee. His commitment goes back decades. Don has been a volunteer in the judicial
system as an advocate for kids. He has been a guardian ad litem for 10 children. Don
has been a volunteer at his church. Among so many other things he has helped direct
the annual pageant. Don is an artist â a singer and a painter â who has be
involved in the arts community. The last time I visited Don's house there were a group
of young African-American men from his block hanging out, doing homework and talking
with Don.
This type of diverse day-to-day authentic community involvement is what has shaped Don
and makes him such as excellent candidate for the council.
Not only is it very gratifying, but I believe also very telling to see so many posts
come back to being about Don Samuels. He has picked up endorsements and support from
people all over the ward -- ranging from Jennifer Young, owner of the California
Building; Dr. Chi Vang, a Hmong community leader; Jim Jarvis, Northeast community
activist; to Councilmember Barb Johnson. Don was on Channel 9 News Sunday night. This
Friday he will be on WCCO radio. Over the last five days his campaign has mailed over
20,000 pieces of literature into the Ward. He has made over 500 phone calls and
pounded on over 300 doors. Voter outreach is being made by three phone banks and three
doorknocks. All of this has been done in less then one month -- without the support or
infrastructure of a Political Party - but through the sheer determination of neighbors
who have been touched by Don's example.
The momentum is building - the election is December 30th - Time to put away rumors and
innuendo and get behind an authentic community voice for City Council.
Jonathan Palmer
Admiring a great campaign and a great community leader
in Victory
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Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren
Mr. Fitzgerald, I am sorry I did not reply to you sooner, but some of us have other things going on today. To say the least, Don Samuelshas been an asset to this community. Furthermore, I know that his commitment started long before this campaign was even thought of and will continue whether he wins or loses this election. Like many people, myself included, Don got frustrated with JACC as it was in recent years. It had become wrapped up in NRP and real estate matters and seemed to many of us, to not respond to the needs of the community. Through the work of many people, Don being one of the most active, we picketed against the drug dealers, started a community garden and formed our own neighborhood organization, the Jordan Livability Committee. When the riot occurred, Don had the guts to stand up to outsiders and questions their claims to represent Jordan since they didn't even live here or belong to any neighborhood organizations.For those of you who are not familiar with the dynamics of the African American community, this may seem like a small thing to do. In fact, it was not. It took allot of guts and the risk of being ostracized by the community. It also gave others in the community the courage tostand up and speak out. While we could not stop the countyfrom paying $250 per bag to City, Inc to pick up trash along 26th Ave, I bet they will think twice before doingsomething like that again without talking to the community first. Wehave now joined the Livability Forum, JACC and the Jordan Jam into what we hope, will be one more inclusive organization which will speak with an even loudervoice. Unlike many who gave up on JACC and organizations like it, Don looked for ways to improve and change. He is also willing to keep trying, and is currently back on the JACC board. Unlike some who use the excuse that they tried once and it didn't work, so the heck with it, Don doesn't give up. Finally, if Don Samuelswins this election it won't be because of mud slinging and half truths. I questioned Toren's use of JACC connections after checking with the staff at JACC who have worked there for at least five years. He has apparently made the claim and it cannot be substantiated. Anne McCandless Jordan - Original Message - From: Shawne FitzGerald To: Anne McCandless Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren Ms. McCandless, I'm an old friend of Margo Ashmore's from college days working on her campaign - most recently affixing labels for a mailing. So all on this list knows my bias. The rumor mill has it that during the year Don Samuels served on the JACC board, he attended only four meetings. Do you know the truth of this? And also, what did JACC accomplish that year? Whaat role did Mr. Samuels play in those accomplishments? Actually, I like Mr. Samuels - he and Margo are very close on the issues. I guess the question is, is Mr. Samuels a flash in the pan, a caring man who has enjoyed some good media exposure this past year - or is he more than that, a neighbor and possibly a leader, who has done more than to be interviewed by the media. Shawne FitzGerald Powderhorn Anne McCandless wrote: As a board member of the Jordan Area Community Council, I can assure you the Matt Thoren is not now, and to the of everyone's recollection, has he ever been active with JACC. In fact, nobody even seems to know him.Anne McCandlessJordan
Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren
I guess my thoughts regarding integrity in campaigning practices fell on deaf ears...
I would hope that we could avoid rumors and innuendo as attacks on candidates, but I
guess that says something about how far people are willing and have to go to attempt
defame such a good candidate as Don Samuels.
I am not going to respond directly to the veiled attack on Don. There are those that
are far more qualified then I to answer that question. But I think a better way to
approach campaigning is to stick to facts.
And one of the most important facts is that Don's community involvement neither starts
nor ends with his involvement on JACC. Don was the co-founder of the Jordan
Livability Project â which brought together a group of diverse Jordan residents to
focus on the livability issues which are so important to stable neighborhoods. When
Don lived in St. Paul he was the Chair of the Saint Paul Public Schools Curriculum
Committee. His commitment goes back decades. Don has been a volunteer in the judicial
system as an advocate for kids. He has been a guardian ad litem for 10 children. Don
has been a volunteer at his church. Among so many other things he has helped direct
the annual pageant. Don is an artist â a singer and a painter â who has be
involved in the arts community. The last time I visited Don's house there were a group
of young African-American men from his block hanging out, doing homework and talking
with Don.
This type of diverse day-to-day authentic community involvement is what has shaped Don
and makes him such as excellent candidate for the council.
Not only is it very gratifying, but I believe also very telling to see so many posts
come back to being about Don Samuels. He has picked up endorsements and support from
people all over the ward -- ranging from Jennifer Young, owner of the California
Building; Dr. Chi Vang, a Hmong community leader; Jim Jarvis, Northeast community
activist; to Councilmember Barb Johnson. Don was on Channel 9 News Sunday night. This
Friday he will be on WCCO radio. Over the last five days his campaign has mailed over
20,000 pieces of literature into the Ward. He has made over 500 phone calls and
pounded on over 300 doors. Voter outreach is being made by three phone banks and three
doorknocks. All of this has been done in less then one month -- without the support or
infrastructure of a Political Party - but through the sheer determination of neighbors
who have been touched by Don's example.
The momentum is building - the election is December 30th - Time to put away rumors and
innuendo and get behind an authentic community voice for City Council.
Jonathan Palmer
Admiring a great campaign and a great community leader
in Victory
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---BeginMessage--- I guess my thoughts regarding integrity in campaigning practices fell on deaf ears... I would hope that we could avoid rumors and innuendo as attacks on candidates, but I guess that says something about how far people are willing and have to go to attempt defame such a good candidate as Don Samuels. I am not going to respond directly to the veiled attack on Don. There are those that are far more qualified then I to answer that question. But I think a better way to approach campaigning is to stick to facts. And one of the most important facts is that Don's community involvement neither starts nor ends with his involvement on JACC. Don was the co-founder of the Jordan Livability Project – which brought together a group of diverse Jordan residents to focus on the livability issues which are so important to stable neighborhoods. When Don lived in St. Paul he was the Chair of the Saint Paul Public Schools Curriculum Committee. His commitment goes back decades. Don has been a volunteer in the judicial system as an advocate for kids. He has been a guardian ad litem for 10 children. Don has been a volunteer at his church. Among so many other things he has helped direct the annual pageant. Don is an artist – a singer and a painter – who has be involved in the arts community. The last time I visited Don's house there were a group of young African-American men from his block hanging out, doing homework and talking with Don. This type of diverse day-to-day authentic community involvement is what has shaped Don and makes him such as excellent candidate for the council. Not only is it very gratifying, but I believe also very telling to see so many posts come back to being about Don Samuels. He has picked up endorsements and support from people all over the ward -- ranging from Jennifer Young, owner of the California Building; Dr. Chi Vang, a Hmong community leader; Jim Jarvis, Northeast community activist; to Councilmember Barb Johnson. Don was on Channel 9 News Sunday night. This Friday he will be on WCCO radio. Over the last five days his campaign has mailed over 20,000 pieces of literature into the Ward. He has made over 500 phone calls and pounded on over 300 doors. Voter outreach is being made by three phone banks and three doorknocks. All of this has been done in less then one month -- without the support or infrastructure of a Political Party - but through the sheer determination of neighbors who have been touched by Don's example. The momentum is building - the election is December 30th - Time to put away rumors and innuendo and get behind an authentic community voice for City Council. Jonathan Palmer Admiring a great campaign and a great community leader in Victory ---End Message---
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Interestingly enough, I find myself supporting Don Samuels in the upcoming 3rd ward election. In many ways, you could probably not find two more different indivduals than Don and myself if you tried. I am white, he is african american. I was born into acceptance in this country, he's an immigrant that has had to work very hard for everything he has. Most of my reality related to the suffering of those less fortunate has been formed through what I read and see in the media, Don has actually LIVED the injustice and suffering. What swayed my opinion to become an ardent supporter of Don Samuels? The fact that I truly believe he has a MUCH more broad understanding of the obstacles and issues thathave kept the 3rd ward from becoming the greatcommunity that it could and should be, than does any other candidate. While there aremany candidates running in the upcoming primary election that would, I am sure, do a capable job, I feelI am very fortunate in having the oppotunity to cast my vote for an individual that will finally be able tobring the understanding, wisdom and conviction necessary to this elected position. I have met only a handfull of people in my life that Iget the same feeling from. This guy is indeed the "real deal". Dennis Plante Jordan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Re: [Mpls] Matt Thoren Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:44:50 -0500 message3.txt Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Matt Thoren
As a board member of the Jordan Area Community Council, I can assure you the Matt Thoren is not now, and to the of everyone's recollection, has he ever been active with JACC. In fact, nobody even seems to know him. Anne McCandless Jordan
