Re: [Mpls] Mpls. LGA cuts in Pi Press

2003-02-26 Thread j c harmon
I recently heard that Minneapolis is one of the only cities that doesn't 
have a volunteer fire department. Is this true? Anyone know why?
Jill Harmon
Cleveland






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MINNEAPOLIS: Rybak outlines budget cutbacks 5254772.htm
Minneapolis firefighters might soon be painting fire hydrants when they
aren't fighting fires, under a money-saving plan suggested by Mayor R.T.
Rybak on Monday.
( BY JUDITH YATES BORGER, Pioneer Press, 02/25/2003 03:01 AM CST)


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Re: [Mpls] Mpls. LGA cuts in Pi Press

2003-02-26 Thread WizardMarks


j c harmon wrote:

I recently heard that Minneapolis is one of the only cities that 
doesn't have a volunteer fire department. Is this true? Anyone know why?
One of the reasons cities went to paid firefighters was that volunteer 
departments had fights when two of them reached the fire. The building 
burned down while the volunteers were mixing it up with each other.

I don't think it's possible that Mpls. is one of the only cities. The 
larger the city, the more need for paid fire fighters.

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Re: [Mpls] Mpls. LGA cuts in Pi Press

2003-02-26 Thread Craig Miller
Title: Mpls. LGA cuts in Pi Press



I once organized 6 landlords and hundreds of dollars to paint 
all the picnic tables at Creekview park or Webber park in Camden. Let me 
tell you, there were a lot of tables. High quality, 10 year, expensive 
weather resistant paint, from Lathrop at a discount. Park board said 
'no'. liability issues you know. I responded that we were all 
middle aged conscientious adults with loads of experience. Then 
came 'union work, don't do it'.

That ended that. I suppose we could have went ahead and 
did it any way. No one would have really busted us. But volunteers 
are by nature, law abiding. 

Craig Miller
Rogers 
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  Or, the residents who live close to the hydrants could help out and paint 
  them.What a fun project to promote community involvement. 
  
  
  Anne McCandless
  Jordan
  
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http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/5254772.htm 

MINNEAPOLIS: Rybak outlines budget cutbacks 
5254772.htm Minneapolis firefighters might 
soon be painting fire hydrants when they aren't fighting fires, under a 
money-saving plan suggested by Mayor R.T. Rybak on Monday.
( BY JUDITH YATES BORGER, Pioneer Press, 02/25/2003 03:01 AM 
CST) 


RE: [Mpls] Mpls. LGA cuts in Pi Press

2003-02-26 Thread Michael Hohmann
I've had the same experience with offers to paint the classrooms in our
public schools, using donated paint and volunteer parents/neighbors!  Or,
try and mop up the floors after evening events in a public school without a
card-carrying 'supervisor/engineer' having to be on hand to provide
directions-- i.e., the mops and buckets/water are in that closet/room over
there.  There are some ways around the latter, depending on the number of
people involved at the event, but you need an insider to figure out the
details of 'how-to' and make it happen.  Volunteer tutors are used in a very
limited way (i.e. helping elementary students with reading) in the public
schools, but the potential exists for volunteer tutors/mentors in math and
sciences, art, history and literature in the lower and upper grades,
throughout the year in non-credit study session environments... maybe even
using a community education model for after school and evening sessions,
where teachers receive a minimum wage stipend for their time-- and the kids
end up doing better in the regular classroom as a result.  Lots of skilled
and knowledgeable folks around town are more than willing to help out in
many ways, if given the chance.  All it takes are some budget-conscious
revisions to outdated business models.  I'm sure many similar examples
abound throughout the public sector.

Michael Hohmann
Linden Hills

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I once organized 6 landlords and hundreds of dollars to paint all the picnic
tables at Creekview park or Webber park in Camden.  Let me tell you, there
were a lot of tables.  High quality, 10 year, expensive weather resistant
paint, from Lathrop at a discount.  Park board said 'no'.  liability issues
you know.   I responded that we were all middle aged conscientious adults
with loads of experience.  Then came   'union work, don't do it'.

That ended that.  I suppose we could have went ahead and did it any way.  No
one would have really busted us.  But volunteers are by nature, law abiding.

Craig Miller
Rogers
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[Mpls] Mpls. LGA cuts in Pi Press

2003-02-25 Thread Borger, Judith Yates
Title: Mpls. LGA cuts in Pi Press






http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/5254772.htm


MINNEAPOLIS: Rybak outlines budget cutbacks 5254772.htm
Minneapolis firefighters might soon be painting fire hydrants when they aren't fighting fires, under a money-saving plan suggested by Mayor R.T. Rybak on Monday.

( BY JUDITH YATES BORGER, Pioneer Press, 02/25/2003 03:01 AM CST)





Re: [Mpls] Mpls. LGA cuts in Pi Press

2003-02-25 Thread Anne McCandless
Title: Mpls. LGA cuts in Pi Press



Or, the residents who live close to the hydrants could help out and paint 
them.What a fun project to promote community involvement. 


Anne McCandless
Jordan

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Borger, Judith Yates 
  To: Mpls Forum (E-mail) 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:11 
  PM
  Subject: [Mpls] Mpls. LGA cuts in Pi 
  Press
  
  http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/5254772.htm 
  
  MINNEAPOLIS: Rybak outlines budget cutbacks 
  5254772.htm Minneapolis firefighters might 
  soon be painting fire hydrants when they aren't fighting fires, under a 
  money-saving plan suggested by Mayor R.T. Rybak on Monday.
  ( BY JUDITH YATES BORGER, Pioneer Press, 02/25/2003 03:01 AM 
  CST) 


RE: [Mpls] Mpls. LGA cuts in Pi Press

2003-02-25 Thread Gregory D. Luce
Title: Message



Judith 
Borger Yates mentions Mayor Rybak's spread sheet of budget cuts, and I heard the 
same this morning on the radio. Anyone have a copy of the spreadsheet so 
we can be backseat accountants?

Gregory Luce
St. 
Paul

  
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  http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/5254772.htm 
  
  MINNEAPOLIS: Rybak outlines budget cutbacks 
  5254772.htm Minneapolis firefighters might 
  soon be painting fire hydrants when they aren't fighting fires, under a 
  money-saving plan suggested by Mayor R.T. Rybak on Monday.
  ( BY JUDITH YATES BORGER, Pioneer Press, 02/25/2003 03:01 AM 
  CST)