Re: park board and dog parks

2000-10-19 Thread Cameron A. Gordon

FYi

A small crew was out yesterday putting up fence posts for the new fence going in
for the dog park here in Seward right at the end of our little street on 
Franklin Terrace.  Looks like this one will be completed by 2001. 







In peace and cooperation,


Cam Gordon
914 Franklin Terrace
Mpls. MN 55406-1101
612 296-0579, 332-6210, 339-2452

Seward Neighborhood, Ward 2
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Re: Library Referendum - Gratia, New Library Location, Ballpark Stadium ?????

2000-10-19 Thread Dastj02

Are you just a little curious about the Subject Line. . .Read on. (To read 
the original
post drop to the end and then return to mine)

Jan: 

I'm a resident in South Minneapolis, who read an unrelated article in the 
Strobe today regarding the stadium.  Although I realize there are 1000s of 
out door ball fans, I am not one of them, so sorry.   I am not loyal fan of 
any sports (boo hoo) and perhaps fall in the category of fair weather fan.  
If they are winning, i.e.. World Series I may 
buy a T-shirts.  So some of you may wonder the connection with Gratia 
Countryman, ballparks, and libraries.  I will find and connection if it kills 
me.   Here's the article on the ballpark followed by the stadium webpage 
for your comments good or bad. 

http://webserv3.startribune.com/stOnLine/cgi-bin/article?thisSlug=STAD18date=

18-Oct-2000word=stadium

Anyway I too wish to rename my local East Lake Regional Library.  And this is 
part of the connection to Jan recommendation."Gratia Alta Countryman" 
does have a great ring to me.
 
So now that I heard about "stadium" discussion today, oh, boy did I grow a 
few gray hairs, Jan.   So I am going to have to mix things up again and see 
if others are might be receptive to thinking about what a stadium might do to 
the scale and urban feel of our neighborhoods in south Minneapolis?   I 
thought I would take an another direction with your idea.  

I pitched the name idea to several residents this past year.  Including some 
of the local East Lake Library patrons, and to the library board this winter 
at one of the Library Board meetings held at the East Lake Library.  I agree 
with you that Gratia was a great women, a single women, educated, and leader 
and visionary and I believe the first single women in Minnesota to adopt a 
child.   Way ahead of her time.  
She had great ideas we still enjoy today, like the book mobile, and providing 
books in many languages to the communities she served.  Nearly like the needs 
of today's library users and immigrant communities today.  She deserves the 
recognition.   

Further, here's my selfish idea.   Push the public and officials to again 
open the discussion to moving the NEW Library into the Hiawatha Corridor 
instead of the proposed location.  South Minneapolis neighborhoods needs a 
destination that could serve EVERYONE, not just one audience, as I feel a 
stadium in my neighborhood might if that becomes a more solid plan. 
http://www.mpls.lib.mn.us/2010.htm

I'm one of those perfectly fine with Bloomington as a location. Where it used 
to be.
A just-outside-the-urban ring outdoor stadium.  Okay fine with me.  Package 
the 
whole kit and caboodle with that other wonderful amenity, the Mall of 
American.
And place it at the end of the line for LRT.  

So Jan, there my connection.

1) Yes, Gratia should finally receive the recognition due her
2) I think this referendum is a for a plan downtown plus renovation to 
communities
eventually.   http://www.mpls.lib.mn.us/2010.htm
3) I recommend to all readers to rethinking the location of the main library 
one more time.  I am not particularly bothered with those who might say it is 
too late.Because if enough people like this idea even just a little they 
will tell two neighbors and so on and so on. And just because we need to 
go to the voting polls to vote on the referendum.   A good or bad idea may be 
born right this moment.
4) The Hiawatha corridor is presently bombarded with ideas.  We are planning 
development in the corridor and together with LRT this could be the jump 
start of 
other development. Would not a new library be wonderful?   
5) Let's all try to avoid placing more auto related development and pouring 
traffic into 
our urban neighborhoods.  Enough is enough.  

In closing, I really haven't changed my mind on the library money, but we all 
know that one of pushes behind the referendum and funding for the main 
library was to 
also provide money for the community and regional libraries renovations and 
upgrades.  Nothing has changed but perhaps moving things around a bit. Like 
chess.

Okay I have run out of breath, I need to inhale.

Gratia Alta Countryman, was a great women.  If the reading audience hasn't 
read the book on Gratia Countryman, Her Life, Her Loves, and Her Library 
please do.  You can pick up a copy at the local library,  the author is Jane 
Pejsa a local author
from Minneapolis.  Good reading.  Nodin Press, Minneapolis. 

Katie Simon-Dastych
Cooper/ Longfellow
Activist
9th Ward
612-724-1570
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Okay, so say the library referendum passes and there will be a wonderful new 
facility.  I am going to start lobbying right now that it should be called 
the Gratia Countryman 

Re: Library Referendum/FewerBoards

2000-10-19 Thread wizardmarks

Ah, RT, you silver-tongued wonder, you.  Even though I am running for the
Library Board next year, I too think we should have a serious debate about
separate boards for library and park (I cannot say the same for Board of
Estimates since I cannot figure out what they do).  However, if a separate
library board were cancelled, I would like the city council to have a board of
advisors made up equally of citizens and retired librarians.  The intricacies of
running a library system take a long learning curve and I don't want to lose
ground during the interim.

As to open air baseball parks, a memory:  Wayte Hoyt announcing the game for the
Cincinnati Red Legs (circa 1950-60), "And it's up and up and. . .over the
laundry!"  That was a home run over the laundry across from Crosley Field.
Those who could not afford a ticket to the ballgame (kids mostly) would stand on
the laundry roof and watch the game.  My brother and I sat in the bleachers
along the first base line with our dad watching Johnny Temple and Ted Kluzuski.
Pete Rose was somewhere else in the stands with his dad who was a "business"
acquaintance of our dad--a bookie.
Wizard Marks, Central.

R.T.Rybak wrote:

 I'm with Jan that we should take a very serious look at eliminating the Park
 and Library Boards; concentrating the decisions under the city council.

 Along with the obvious cost savings, it would force the city council to help
 make the tough decisions about how to balance these various needs.

 Here are two quick examples of how this could change two hot topics:

 1. The library: One reason this project has floundered for so long is that
 it is in the hands of a board that has very little authority and
 visibility...so it sits like a wallflower in the corner while all the fancy
 megaprojects get asked to dance. If the city council was responsible for
 libraries, we could finally have the very-needed debate about whether this
 is a higher priority than the many other developments the council has funded
 ahead of it.  In private Library Board members complain that the council
 hasn't done enough, the council complains that the Libary Board hasn't done
 enoughPut the decision in one place so voters know who to credit and/or
 blame.

 2. Stadium.  Ask yourself how much energy has been spent talking about a new
 stadium over the past decade. Now ask yourself how much you hear about the
 critical state of playing fields in the city.  While we spend days and days
 focused on the Twins, thousands of kids are playing on substandard soccer
 fields with dangerous draingrates at midfield and rock hard baseball
 diamonds that are laughed at by the teams that come from the suburbs and St.
 Paul.  Large sections of the city have almost no organized team
 sportswhich is a disgrace.  Again, coordinating these functions under
 the city council would force the same debate about priorities.

 I don't think anyone has taken a hard enough look at what would actually be
 saved if you fully merged the complete organizations, which may or may not
 make sense, but at the very least the decision-making should be in a single
 place.

 R.T. Rybak
 East Harriet






Re: Minneapolis bond debt

2000-10-19 Thread richard carney

GARY SCHIFF wrote:

 Nobody had much to say about Councilmember Barret Lane's post
 about Indianapolis' financial situation yesterdaysnip...Is AA bond
 status (and the higher interest it brings overtime) good enough for
 Minneapolis?...snip...It's vital that Minneapolis have a first class
 central library downtown, and improved branch libraries.

Are you telling me the city can't afford to build a library?
At least
without serious financial consequences?

But, but, but, times are great! Office buildings in the
shape of tissue
boxes can't go up fast enough- and nearly some of them will
be close to half
full when all the dust settles (or maybe they'll be full of
the tenants
currently in other downtown office buildings). Soon a city
financed Target
Store will be available to everyone who has been crying for
years that the
city doesn't heavily finance enough mid-priced retail for
the people's
taste, even though downtown was not all that long ago
teeming with
mid-priced retail (remember Woolworth's, Donaldson's,
Penney's, and I believe Powers was there too) that I am
guessing wasn't underwritten by the City Council et al.

And now Block E, in all of its impending tasteful glitziness
will be in her
honor's own words, "happening!" In a couple of years
Gameworks will offer
everyone the chance to sit in life-size Indy cars and race
against your
friends in virtual reality while simultaneously eating REAL
mozzarella
sticks and other exotic fare one couldn't possibly find
anywhere else in the
city limits without walking seventy-five feet. When you're
done racing you
can walk across the hall and plunk down $8 to watch Val
Kilmer affect some
phony accent while chasing Brendan Fraser through the Alp's
in the "Hannibal
Story", and have a really nice velveteen padded cup holder
for your 67 ounce
CocaCola.

So even if Minneapolis can't REALLY afford a new central
library everyone is
okay, with all the neat new stuff the city has bought its
residents, who
will have time to read, anyway?

It's all about priorities folks!

richard carney
st. paul
formerly Ward 10- ECCO

I would personally like to see a stadium/ballpark/dog park
in place of the
Nicollet Ave. K-Mart, but built on stilts so that the
Avenue's traffic flow
would not have any impediments. With "Eat Street" only a
couple of blocks
down the road, it would, culinarily speaking, be the envy of
the Major
Leagues.