Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpc big-bug.

2023-07-18 Thread Fred van Stappen 
>Note that, for msegui, you need to add the -dglibc255 compiler parameter for 
>Linux AMD64 and -dglibc20 for Linux i386.
>This will assign the libc.so.6 methods used by msegui with the right signed 
>symbol table.

In msegui last commit, no need to use the -dglibc255 or -dglibc20 compiler 
parameters, the define is done in the units when the OS is Linux/AMD64 or  
Linux/i386.


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Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpc big-bug.

Hello Vasi.

>personally I use your fork

Note that, for msegui, you need to add the -dglibc255 compiler parameter for 
Linux AMD64 and -dglibc20 for Linux i386.
This will assign the libc.so.6 methods used by msegui with the right signed 
symbol table.


De : vasi vasi 
Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2023 02:58
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Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpc big-bug.

Thank you Fred, personally I use your fork and thank you also for the themes. 
It will be a great starting point.

It is quiet indeed on the forums regarding this, but probably there are lots of 
discussions behind the scene... maybe in a private part of the forum, where 
only devs have the access... Of course, this means absolutely nothing if there 
are no positive outcomes... But let's hope... :P

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 5:38 PM Fred van Stappen 
mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello.

There are not lot of answers from the fpc devs about the Linux BIG-BUG of not 
using the magic signed symbol tables feature of libc.so.6
 to assure backward and upward compatibility with old-new libc.so.6. versions.
This magic feature is the signed symbol tables that work like a filter to warn 
the new version of a method to use the same stat record and same parmeters as 
the signed table defined for the method.

https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,5.0.html

Anyway, people who dont want to wait eterrnity for the fixes, may use the 
fpc-ootb patched fork:
https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal-ootb/releases/

Fre;D

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] ERROR DBFILTER.PRJ

2023-07-18 Thread Fred van Stappen 
Hello Vasi.

>but right now I have a big C project "under construction"...  
>https://stm32vpc.blogspot.com/2023/02/the-system-has-been-decided.html

WOW!



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On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 1:35 AM Fred van Stappen 
mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Bună ziua Vasi!

You got me there! A good day to you too (Bonne journée à toi aussi ! - but I 
had to use Google translate )

About msegui-themes, I agree some demos are welcome.
I dont know what is the status of msegui-themes, Martin was working on it.

Maybe you could become the msegui-theme explorer, see what cefou has already 
done and see what is not working.
If you jump into it, I will follow you.
Is not the first time when I try to learn what Cefou did... Probably I will go 
back to it, but right now I have a big C project "under construction"...  
https://stm32vpc.blogspot.com/2023/02/the-system-has-been-decided.html




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"The only trouble could be if nobody care anymore of msegui."

Is the only viable alternative to Lazarus and LCL... I bet the majority of 
Lazarus users have MSEide+MSEgui into their toolbox. But it would help if the 
gurus of various parts of msegui would write some guides to help newcomers to 
continue the development when the time comes...

Also, if @cefou would have time to create two themes, one light, another dark, 
at least similar to what Linuxmint has on Mate and Cinnamon... it would help 
even more with the adoption for commercial projects... Yeah, I know, I'm 
stressing this out, but look is essential and the complexity of msegui 
regarding look might scare the LCL user... I bet the default look of msegui is 
the main reason potential users are fading away (the young ones) ...

On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 3:38 PM Fred van Stappen 
mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Sieghard.

> >(As the initiator of the trouble, I'll probabely have the duty to attack
> > the chore, I'm afraid...)
>
> I fear it too because my level of knowledge of db-msegui is very low.

I think there is only one db-msegui guru and it is Med. ;-)

>I apologize for the trouble I caused.

You did not cause any trouble, Med has directly found the problem.
Also I keep all your fixes about mse_dynlib, so part of your fixes are commited.
The only trouble could be if nobody care anymore of msegui.

Thanks for your great work Sieghard.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpc big-bug.

2023-07-18 Thread Fred van Stappen 
Hello Vasi.

>personally I use your fork

Note that, for msegui, you need to add the -dglibc255 compiler parameter for 
Linux AMD64 and -dglibc20 for Linux i386.
This will assign the libc.so.6 methods used by msegui with the right signed 
symbol table.


De : vasi vasi 
Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2023 02:58
À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui 
Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpc big-bug.

Thank you Fred, personally I use your fork and thank you also for the themes. 
It will be a great starting point.

It is quiet indeed on the forums regarding this, but probably there are lots of 
discussions behind the scene... maybe in a private part of the forum, where 
only devs have the access... Of course, this means absolutely nothing if there 
are no positive outcomes... But let's hope... :P

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 5:38 PM Fred van Stappen 
mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hello.

There are not lot of answers from the fpc devs about the Linux BIG-BUG of not 
using the magic signed symbol tables feature of libc.so.6
 to assure backward and upward compatibility with old-new libc.so.6. versions.
This magic feature is the signed symbol tables that work like a filter to warn 
the new version of a method to use the same stat record and same parmeters as 
the signed table defined for the method.

https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,5.0.html

Anyway, people who dont want to wait eterrnity for the fixes, may use the 
fpc-ootb patched fork:
https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal-ootb/releases/

Fre;D

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpc big-bug.

2023-07-18 Thread vasi vasi 
Thank you Fred, personally I use your fork and thank you also for the
themes. It will be a great starting point.

It is quiet indeed on the forums regarding this, but probably there are
lots of discussions behind the scene... maybe in a private part of the
forum, where only devs have the access... Of course, this means absolutely
nothing if there are no positive outcomes... But let's hope... :P

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 5:38 PM Fred van Stappen  wrote:

> Hello.
>
> There are not lot of answers from the fpc devs about the Linux BIG-BUG of
> not using the magic *signed symbol tables* feature of libc.so.6
>  to assure backward and upward compatibility with old-new libc.so.6.
> versions.
> This magic feature is the signed symbol tables that work like a filter to
> warn the new version of a method to use the same stat record and same
> parmeters as the signed table defined for the method.
>
> https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,5.0.html
>
> Anyway, people who dont want to wait eterrnity for the fixes, may use the
> fpc-ootb patched fork:
> https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal-ootb/releases/
>
> Fre;D
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[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpc big-bug.

2023-07-18 Thread Fred van Stappen 
Hello.

There are not lot of answers from the fpc devs about the Linux BIG-BUG of not 
using the magic signed symbol tables feature of libc.so.6
 to assure backward and upward compatibility with old-new libc.so.6. versions.
This magic feature is the signed symbol tables that work like a filter to warn 
the new version of a method to use the same stat record and same parmeters as 
the signed table defined for the method.

https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,5.0.html

Anyway, people who dont want to wait eterrnity for the fixes, may use the 
fpc-ootb patched fork:
https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal-ootb/releases/

Fre;D

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New skins.

2023-07-18 Thread Fred van Stappen 
The complete path of the new skins is this:
https://github.com/mse-org/mseuniverse/tree/main/skins/fredvs

Have fun.

Fre;D

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Envoyé : mardi 18 juillet 2023 15:59
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Objet : [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New skins.

Hello.

In  there are 2 new skin-demos in /mseuniverse/skins/fredvs/: fcarbonskin and 
fsilverskin.

To use the skins in your application, copy fcarbonskin.pas, fcarbonskin.mfm, 
fcarbomskin_mfm.pas and load_fcarbonskin.pas into your project folder.
In your main-form unit, add load_fcarbonskin in the uses section.

For fsilverskin it is the same trick using the fsilverskin units.

Those demos use lightly rounded frames for buttons.

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[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] New skins.

2023-07-18 Thread Fred van Stappen 
Hello.

In  there are 2 new skin-demos in /mseuniverse/skins/fredvs/: fcarbonskin and 
fsilverskin.

To use the skins in your application, copy fcarbonskin.pas, fcarbonskin.mfm, 
fcarbomskin_mfm.pas and load_fcarbonskin.pas into your project folder.
In your main-form unit, add load_fcarbonskin in the uses section.

For fsilverskin it is the same trick using the fsilverskin units.

Those demos use lightly rounded frames for buttons.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] ERROR DBFILTER.PRJ

2023-07-18 Thread vasi vasi 
On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 1:35 AM Fred van Stappen  wrote:

>
> Bună ziua Vasi!
>
> You got me there! A good day to you too (Bonne journée à toi aussi ! - but
I had to use Google translate )


> About msegui-themes, I agree some demos are welcome.
> I dont know what is the status of msegui-themes, Martin was working on it.
>
> Maybe you could become the msegui-theme explorer, see what cefou has
> already done and see what is not working.
> If you jump into it, I will follow you.
>
Is not the first time when I try to learn what Cefou did... Probably I will
go back to it, but right now I have a big C project "under
construction"...
https://stm32vpc.blogspot.com/2023/02/the-system-has-been-decided.html



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>
> "The only trouble could be if nobody care anymore of msegui."
>
> Is the only viable alternative to Lazarus and LCL... I bet the majority of
> Lazarus users have MSEide+MSEgui into their toolbox. But it would help if
> the gurus of various parts of msegui would write some guides to help
> newcomers to continue the development when the time comes...
>
> Also, if @cefou would have time to create two themes, one light, another
> dark, at least similar to what Linuxmint has on Mate and Cinnamon... it
> would help even more with the adoption for commercial projects... Yeah, I
> know, I'm stressing this out, but look is essential and the complexity of
> msegui regarding look might scare the LCL user... I bet the default look of
> msegui is the main reason potential users are fading away (the young ones)
> ...
>
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 3:38 PM Fred van Stappen 
> wrote:
>
> Hello Sieghard.
>
> > >(As the initiator of the trouble, I'll probabely have the duty to attack
> > > the chore, I'm afraid...)
> >
> > I fear it too because my level of knowledge of db-msegui is very low.
>
> I think there is only one db-msegui guru and it is Med. ;-)
>
> >I apologize for the trouble I caused.
>
> You did not cause any trouble, Med has directly found the problem.
> Also I keep all your fixes about mse_dynlib, so part of your fixes are
> commited.
> The only trouble could be if nobody care anymore of msegui.
>
> Thanks for your great work Sieghard.
>
> Fre;D
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