Re: [Announce] mutt-1.1.9 is out - RELEASE CANDIDATE!

2000-03-20 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 18:13:16 -0500, David T-G wrote:
 Can the authors or maintainers of the patches let me know if any
 of them are obsoleted or need to be updated, and where to get them?

I'm now updating my patches (those with "bj" in their filenames) to
the soon-coming Mutt 1.2. More info and descriptions will follow
when I'm ready.

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Re: two mutt 1.1.9 problems(?) (was: [Announce] mutt-1.1.9 is out - RELEASE CANDIDATE!)

2000-03-20 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-03-20 01:27:51 +, Thomas Ribbrock wrote:

 I have a slight problem with Muttrc in the 1.1.9. In
 1.0.1 and before, the Muttrc that got installed was
 automatically changed during install to contain the
 correct path to "manual.txt" according to --prefix.
 This no longer works for 1.1.9. Even after configuring
 with --prefix, the installed Muttrc still contains
 "/usr/local/." as path to manual.txt NEWS states
 that the mechanism to generate Muttrc has been changed,
 so maybe this was an oversight? Or did I miss
 something?

This was an oversight when changing the Muttrc generation
mechanism.  I've put Muttrc.head under autoconf control now.

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Charset problem ?

2000-03-20 Thread Jean-Sebastien Morisset

Whenever mutt displays a thread, the arrows look like "AA" with little
accents on top. I'm using iso-8859-1 which I think is the default. Oddly
enough, mutt can display french characters in messages. Am I trading one
for the other? Which charset should I be using to support threads?

Thanks,
js.
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Trouble getting indicator to point to first message

2000-03-20 Thread Aleksey Tsalolikhin

Hi,

I want to read my mail FIFO (ie oldest mail first).
I don't have any "set sort" commands in my .muttrc, so
mutt's defaulting to "date", which is just fine.

However, the indicator goes to message 300, instead
of message 1 when I start mutt.  Is there an option to have
the indicator go to message 1 at startup that I've missed
in the manual? If not, is there any other way to accomplish
this, please?

$ mutt -v
Mutt 1.0.1i (2000-01-18)
Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: SunOS 5.6 [using slang 10400]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  -USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
-USE_IMAP  -USE_POP  -HAVE_REGCOMP  +USE_GNU_REGEX  +HAVE_COLOR  
-BUFFY_SIZE 
-EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS
SENDMAIL="/usr/lib/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/mail"
SHAREDIR="/usr/local/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/usr/local/etc"
ISPELL="/usr/local/bin/ispell"
To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
$ uname -a
SunOS tashkent 5.6 Generic_105181-16 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-5_10
$

Sincerely Yours,
Aleksey Tsalolikhin



Re: Trouble getting indicator to point to first message

2000-03-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Aleksey Tsalolikhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 20 Mar 2000:
   However, the indicator goes to message 300, instead
 of message 1 when I start mutt.  Is there an option to have
 the indicator go to message 1 at startup that I've missed
 in the manual? If not, is there any other way to accomplish
 this, please?

Not really an option, but a supported method would be to set up a
folder hook in your .muttrc, which matches all folders:

  folder-hook . 'push "1enter"'

Seemed to work fine when I quickly tested that just now.


Hope this helps,
Mikko
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Re: Trouble getting indicator to point to first message

2000-03-20 Thread David T-G

Hi, folks --

...and then Mikko Hänninen said...
% Aleksey Tsalolikhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 20 Mar 2000:
%  of message 1 when I start mutt.  Is there an option to have
%  the indicator go to message 1 at startup that I've missed
% 
% Not really an option, but a supported method would be to set up a
% folder hook in your .muttrc, which matches all folders:
% 
%   folder-hook . 'push "1enter"'

This is all I could come up with, too, but it's IMHO a kludge.

Do I incorrectly remember a point_new variable that would cause mutt to
jump to the first new message, which is what most people want anyway but
some don't, which is now obviously not there?  Or did I make it up? :-)


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Re: Trouble getting indicator to point to first message

2000-03-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen

David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 20 Mar 2000:
 %   folder-hook . 'push "1enter"'
 
 This is all I could come up with, too, but it's IMHO a kludge.

Why is it a kludge?  It works, it's quite simple, and it doesn't seem to
add a significant overhead in the folder processing..  Maybe that you
need to use "push" is a bit kludgey, since I couldn't figure out a way
to invoke the jump function without it (I get "jump: unknown command"
and "jump: unknown command").

 Do I incorrectly remember a point_new variable that would cause mutt to
 jump to the first new message, which is what most people want anyway but
 some don't, which is now obviously not there?  Or did I make it up? :-)

Well, at least on my 1.1.9 I get "point_new: unknown variable" when I
try to do ":set ?point_new"...  And a quick grep from all the manuals
I had (going back to version 0.85) didn't turn up anything either.


Regards,
Mikko
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Printing with only some headers

2000-03-20 Thread Christian R Molls

Hi,

how can I make mutt print only some (ie important) header lines?

Right now I use: 

set print_command='enscript -2 -r -G -i3'

which results in all headers being printed. So I piped the mail through
sed/formail before passing it to enscript, and that worked, but I wonder
if there is a nicer way to do it? Maybe with a mailcap-print setting?

Chris
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univ of cologne



Trouble with fcc-save-hook . +%F

2000-03-20 Thread Gregor Zattler

Dear mutt-users,

i try to migrate from an german mail+news reader "CrossPoint" (runs on
pure DOS) to mutt. With CrossPoint i'm used to save mails i got from a
user and copys of emails i sent her (the whole correspondence) in one
location (aka folder).  Now i tried hard configuring mutt to fcc and
save emails in folders with users realnames.

But if i setfcc-save-hook . +%Femails i send go to a folder 
'To Firstname Lastname' whereas emails i got and save go to folder
'Firstname Lastname': The correspondence is splitt in two folders and
as a result i can not read it without changing folders all the time.

Any suggestions?

Ciao, Gregor



Re: Trouble getting indicator to point to first message

2000-03-20 Thread David T-G

Mikko --

...and then Mikko Hänninen said...
% David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 20 Mar 2000:
%  %   folder-hook . 'push "1enter"'
%  
%  This is all I could come up with, too, but it's IMHO a kludge.
% 
% Why is it a kludge?  It works, it's quite simple, and it doesn't seem to
% add a significant overhead in the folder processing..  Maybe that you

Well, it's noticeable to me; mutt opens up the folder, paints the index,
and then has to re-paint it from message 1.  Even with "modern" fast
dialup lines, which don't always apply even for me here in the states,
it's quite noticeable.


% need to use "push" is a bit kludgey, since I couldn't figure out a way
% to invoke the jump function without it (I get "jump: unknown command"
% and "jump: unknown command").

It just seems to me that there should be a way to not point to the first
new message if you don't want to.


% 
%  Do I incorrectly remember a point_new variable that would cause mutt to
%  jump to the first new message, which is what most people want anyway but
%  some don't, which is now obviously not there?  Or did I make it up? :-)
% 
% Well, at least on my 1.1.9 I get "point_new: unknown variable" when I
% try to do ":set ?point_new"...  And a quick grep from all the manuals
% I had (going back to version 0.85) didn't turn up anything either.

Since I signed on at in the 0.88 days, I must have made it up entirely.
Bummer; I was sure it was there :-)


% 
% 
% Regards,
% Mikko


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Re: Trouble getting indicator to point to first message

2000-03-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen

David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 20 Mar 2000:
 Well, it's noticeable to me; mutt opens up the folder, paints the index,
 and then has to re-paint it from message 1.  Even with "modern" fast
 dialup lines, which don't always apply even for me here in the states,
 it's quite noticeable.

Okay, then I agree you have a point here.  I guess I've just been
spoiled by not having to use remote access over dialup modem connections
at all in about 1.5 years...

 It just seems to me that there should be a way to not point to the first
 new message if you don't want to.

True, although the desire to do so seems to be quite rare.

 Since I signed on at in the 0.88 days, I must have made it up entirely.
 Bummer; I was sure it was there :-)

Maybe it was a patch...  Or my grep may have missed it.


Mikko
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Re: Trouble getting indicator to point to first message

2000-03-20 Thread David DeSimone

Mikko Hänninen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 folder-hook .  'push "1enter"'

A bit more efficient:

folder-hook .  'push first-entry'

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How could i deal with this in Procmail or Mutt?

2000-03-20 Thread Jason Helfman

How would I work with this and kill the messages taht I send?

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Re: How could i deal with this in Procmail or Mutt?

2000-03-20 Thread Aleksey Tsalolikhin

On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 11:22:41PM -0600, Jason Helfman wrote:
 How would I work with this and kill the messages taht I send?
 
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Dear Jason,

Something like

:0
* ^From gnupg-users-owner
* ^From: Jason Helfman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/dev/null

in your procmailrc ought to do it, if you don't want to see your
own posts to gnupg-users.  You might have to tweak the 'From ' line
in the recipe depending on what it actually looks like when you get
email from the list.

Yours,
Aleksey



Re: Trouble getting indicator to point to first message

2000-03-20 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 17:22:01 -0500, David T-G wrote:
 Well, it's noticeable to me; mutt opens up the folder, paints the index,
 and then has to re-paint it from message 1.  Even with "modern" fast
 dialup lines, which don't always apply even for me here in the states,
 it's quite noticeable.

 It just seems to me that there should be a way to not point to the first
 new message if you don't want to.

With the source everything is possible. :-)

One way is to edit curs_main.c, find the function ci_first_message(),
delete all code lines but the last so the function looks like this:

static int ci_first_message (void)
{
  return 0;
}

Then recompile and be happy.

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Re: Trouble getting indicator to point to first message

2000-03-20 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 22:52:31 +0200, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
 
 Why is it a kludge?  It works, it's quite simple, and it doesn't seem to
 add a significant overhead in the folder processing..  Maybe that you
 need to use "push" is a bit kludgey, since I couldn't figure out a way
 to invoke the jump function without it (I get "jump: unknown command"
 and "jump: unknown command").

I would prefer to name the jump function directly instead of
relying on the key binding of "1":

folder-hook . 'push jump1enter'

or just as David DeSimone suggested:

folder-hook . 'push first-entry'

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Re: Trouble getting indicator to point to first message

2000-03-20 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 15:39:20 -0500, David T-G wrote:
 Do I incorrectly remember a point_new variable that would cause mutt to
 jump to the first new message, which is what most people want anyway but
 some don't, which is now obviously not there?  Or did I make it up? :-)

I'm not sure, but I think that there once was such a variable which
was considered superfluous and removed.

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