man procmail bug?

2000-09-06 Thread raf

i need to set up a .forward file to get procmail happening
but the doco seems out of whack. the procmail(1) manpage
used to say you needed:

"!IFS=' 'exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f-||exit 75 #YOUR_USERNAME"

now (version 3.13.1 and 3.14) it says you only need:

"|exec /usr/bin/procmail"

but it also says:

The #YOUR_USERNAME is not actually a parameter that
is required by procmail, in fact, it will be discarded
by sh before procmail ever sees it; it is however a
necessary kludge against overoptimising sendmail programs:

is this paragraph just a left over that needs to be removed,
or is the new .forward spec missing bits?

at least one of them must be wrong :-)

raf




from lines on lists

2000-09-06 Thread Mostly Harmless

How can I get the from line displayed in the message index for lists I
have defined as lists?

thanks.

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[Announce] A German version of the Mutt Manual is available.

2000-09-06 Thread Thomas Roessler

Thomas Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] has made a German translation of the
Mutt Manual for version 1.2.5 available.  It can be found under

ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/doc/de/.

If others desire to translate the manual, they are welcome to submit
it for inclusion on the FTP site as well.

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Re: man procmail bug?

2000-09-06 Thread André Dahlqvist

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 06:11:24PM +1100, raf wrote:

 now (version 3.13.1 and 3.14) it says you only need:
 
 "|exec /usr/bin/procmail"
 
 but it also says:
 
 The #YOUR_USERNAME is not actually a parameter that
 is required by procmail, in fact, it will be discarded
 by sh before procmail ever sees it; it is however a
 necessary kludge against overoptimising sendmail programs:

In procmail 3.15 the last paragraph is not present.
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// André



Re: from lines on lists

2000-09-06 Thread Michael Elkins

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:14:11PM -0400, Mostly Harmless wrote:
 How can I get the from line displayed in the message index for lists I
 have defined as lists?

Change the %L (list-from) in $index_format to %F (from) for that mailbox.

me

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Re: Maildir being very slow

2000-09-06 Thread Morten Bo Johansen

Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 On 2000-09-05 20:44:42 +0200, Michael Tatge wrote:
 
  I switched from mbox to Maildir a few days ago. I always had the
  feeling that Maildir is much slower - well for big Mailboxes at
  least - than mbox. Now I did some testing.
 
 This might be related to your file system's performance.


Could you elaborate? How do you make a file system perform
better in relation to maildirs? I use reiserfs and I too think
that maildirs are slower when opening folders beyond a certain
size. I therefore keep my folders below approx. a 1000 messages.




Regards,

Morten





copies of sent mail

2000-09-06 Thread Jeff Coppock

I'm a new user of mutt and sendmail.  I've got everything working, but I can't figure 
out whether mutt of sendmail is responsible for keeping copies of sent mail, and where 
they would be.

Can anyone help me?

thanks,
jc

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Re: Maildir being very slow

2000-09-06 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-09-06 23:17:27 +0200, Morten Bo Johansen wrote:

 Could you elaborate? How do you make a file system perform better
 in relation to maildirs? I use reiserfs and I too think that
 maildirs are slower when opening folders beyond a certain size. I
 therefore keep my folders below approx. a 1000 messages.

I was more thinking about ext2fs performance with large directories.

With reiserfs, the overhead could only come from the larger number
of open() and close() system calls.

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mailbox rotation

2000-09-06 Thread Brian Smyth

Hello all,

I'm relatively new to mutt, I've been using it for a couple weeks and
really like it so far.

What options do I have to rotate my mailbox once it gets too large or
on a monthly basis? Mutt doesn't have a builtin function, correct? Can
anybody point me towards a script that would do this?

If this is answered in a FAQ somewhere, point me to it and shame on me
for not looking harder! :)

Thanks very much for the help,

Brian



Re: copies of sent mail

2000-09-06 Thread Michael Sanders

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 11:55:33AM +, Jeff Coppock wrote:
 I'm a new user of mutt and sendmail.  I've got everything working, but I can't 
figure out whether mutt of sendmail is responsible for keeping copies of sent mail, 
and where they would be.
 
From the docs:
 6.3.159.  record

  Type: path
  Default: ""

  This specifies the file into which your outgoing messages should be
  appended.  (This is meant as the primary method for saving a copy of
  your messages, but another way to do this is using the ``my_hdr''
  command to create a Bcc: field with your email address in it.)

  The value of record is overridden by the ``force_name'' and
  ``save_name'' variables, and the ``fcc-hook'' command.

I have
set record=+Outgoing
in my muttrc.

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Re: mailbox rotation

2000-09-06 Thread Michael Sanders

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 05:40:41PM -0400, Brian Smyth wrote:
 What options do I have to rotate my mailbox once it gets too large or
 on a monthly basis? Mutt doesn't have a builtin function, correct? Can
 anybody point me towards a script that would do this?
 
I use procmail for this with entries like

:0:
* ^TOmutt
mutt-users.`date +%Y-%m`

in my $HOME/.procmail/lists.rc

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Re: copies of sent mail

2000-09-06 Thread Juergen Salk

* Jeff Coppock [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000906 23:35]:
 I'm a new user of mutt and sendmail.  I've got everything working, but I can't 
figure out whether mutt of sendmail is responsible for keeping copies of sent mail, 
and where they would be.
 
 Can anyone help me?

Try adding the following entry to your .muttrc file:

## Store sent messages
set record="=sent-mail"

This will save a copy of your outgoing messages to
the mailbox "sent-mail" in the default location of your 
mailboxes (usually ~/Mail).

Regards - Juergen.





Re: mailbox rotation

2000-09-06 Thread Emily Slocombe

* Brian Smyth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000906 17:46]:
|Hello all,

hi,

|What options do I have to rotate my mailbox once it gets too large or
|on a monthly basis? Mutt doesn't have a builtin function, correct? Can
|anybody point me towards a script that would do this?

I like this set of configuration files  scripts for just this reason:
http://mutt.lazygenes.net/

Have fun :)

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Re: from lines on lists

2000-09-06 Thread Gregor Zattler

Dear mutt users,
hello Mostly Harmless :-)

* Mostly Harmless [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Die 05 Sep 2000 23:14:11 GMT]:
 How can I get the from line displayed in the message index for lists I
 have defined as lists?

i understand you want to see the names of the persons how wrote the
messages instead of "To:" which list the messages are adressed?

Try:

folder-hook mutt-users  set index_format="%4C|%Z|%[%d.%m.%y]|%-20.20n|%4l|%s"
    
^
^
in your .muttrc

It shows up to 20 chars of the senders real name or email address if
no real name is given.


Ciao, Gregor



Re: mailbox rotation

2000-09-06 Thread Brian Smyth

Thanks for the suggestions, that will fit the bill perfectly. Procmail
is a beast I haven't delved into besides simple mail filtering, and it
didn't occur to me that the solution would lie there.

I appreciate the help!

Brian



mbox to maildir

2000-09-06 Thread Jason Helfman

Does anyone have a script that does this?

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Re: mbox to maildir

2000-09-06 Thread David Champion

On 2000.09.06, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Jason Helfman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone have a script that does this?

If you have mh or nmh installed, I'd think that you can "inc" the mbox
to a new folder and rename that folder's directory as .../folder/cur,
then mkdir ../folder/{tmp,new} as well.

You can also do something like this:
formail -s sh -c 'cat .../foldername/cur/`expr $FILENO + 1`' mbox

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Re: mbox to maildir

2000-09-06 Thread Timothy Legant

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 07:27:57PM -0700, Jason Helfman wrote:
 Does anyone have a script that does this?

I use Bruce Guenter's script mbox2maildir, available from
http://em.ca/~bruceg/mbox2maildir. This is referenced in the 'maildir'
section at qmail.org, as are other useful utilities for working with
Maildirs.

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Re: mbox to maildir

2000-09-06 Thread Jason Helfman

I had some difficulty running this but the perl script worked,
seemingly, flawless...

thanks for your tip, though.

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 09:42:31PM -0500, David Champion muttered:
| On 2000.09.06, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
|   "Jason Helfman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  Does anyone have a script that does this?
| 
| If you have mh or nmh installed, I'd think that you can "inc" the mbox
| to a new folder and rename that folder's directory as .../folder/cur,
| then mkdir ../folder/{tmp,new} as well.
| 
| You can also do something like this:
|   formail -s sh -c 'cat .../foldername/cur/`expr $FILENO + 1`' mbox
| 
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