Re: Charset 8859-1 ou 8859-15
Et bien voila !!! il suffit que je m'enerve un peu pour trouver le probleme... ¤¤¤ ça marche !! ;) J'avais tout simplement laissé mon putty en latin1... Le Saturday 19 October 2002 à 09:23, Sébastien MICHEL a écrit: Moi je ne comprend po... car chez moi (je ne suis pas root) j'ai tout bien mis (LANG=fr_Freuro dans mon bashrc, set charset=iso-8859-15 set send_charset=iso-8859-15 set locale=fr_FReuro dans mon muttrc et je ne peux toujours po faire de signe Euro :/ (Alt-gr+e=.)) pourtant voici le resultat de locale: LANG=fr_FReuro LC_CTYPE=fr_FReuro LC_NUMERIC=fr_FReuro LC_TIME=fr_FReuro LC_COLLATE=fr_FReuro LC_MONETARY=fr_FReuro LC_MESSAGES=fr_FReuro LC_PAPER=fr_FReuro LC_NAME=fr_FReuro LC_ADDRESS=fr_FReuro LC_TELEPHONE=fr_FReuro LC_MEASUREMENT=fr_FReuro LC_IDENTIFICATION=fr_FReuro LC_ALL= et le cat de /etc/locale.gen fr_FReuro ISO-8859-15 j'ai oublié koi ? Le Saturday 19 October 2002 à 00:34, Cedric Duval a écrit: 'soir, Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ... J'ai la ligne suivante dans mon muttrc : set send_charset=us-ascii:iso-8859-1:iso-8859-15:utf-8 Très bien. (xterm en iso-8859-15, LANG=fr_FReuro ou similaire, etc. ?) * Mais si je tape un euro (« ? »), ça ne fonctionne pas pour la bonne et simple raison que ce caractère 8bit existe aussi en 8859-1. [...] Est-ce que ça a un sens d'écrire plusieurs iso-8859-* dans la variable charset ? Pour $send_charset, oui. Pour $charset, non. Mais justement, que vaut ton $charset ? Avec set charset=iso-8859-15, Ici Ça Marche (TM). Enfin, mes destinataires seront-ils plus gênés par du 8859-15 que par du 8859-1 ? Étant donné que les deux jeux coïncident exactement à part 3 caractères, il n'y aura qu'une gène minime. À part évidemment si tu fais un usage intensif des euros et cie. Mais globalement, le latin1 est toujours plus répandu que le latin9. Pour l'instant... -- Cédric, toujours en latin1 pour cause d'absence de bonnes polices en latin9 -- +, MichouX Unix is user friendly. He's just very picky about who his friends are... -- +, MichouX l'exterieur c'est dehors !
Viewing HTML difficulties in mutt 1.4
Hello. I seem to not be understanding something about viewing HTML email in mut. I have these entries in my muttrc: set mailcap_path = ~/.mutt/.mailcap:/etc/mailcap alternative_order text/plain # Show plaintext rather than HTML And my ~/.mutt/.mailcap has: text/html; w3m -v -cookie -F -T text/html %s; copiousoutput Which properly shows me the HTML email (using urlview), but doesn't allow me to click on any of the links (which I sometimes want/need to do). My /etc/urlview/url_handler.sh has this: http_prgs=/usr/bin/X11/opera:PW /usr/bin/w3m -F -T:XT What am I doing wrong, that the links aren't active? -- PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF Member, LEAF Project http://leaf.sourceforge.netAIM: MikeLeone Public Key - http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.asc Registered Linux user# 201348 msg31898/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Viewing HTML difficulties in mutt 1.4
Mike Leone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: Hello. I seem to not be understanding something about viewing HTML email in mut. Hm right. Your mixing things up. I have these entries in my muttrc: set mailcap_path = ~/.mutt/.mailcap:/etc/mailcap And my ~/.mutt/.mailcap has: text/html; w3m -v -cookie -F -T text/html %s; copiousoutput Which properly shows me the HTML email (using urlview), No mailcap is used when (v)iewing attachments. It has nothing to do with urlview. but doesn't allow me to click on any of the links (which I sometimes want/need to do). leave out the copiousoutput. man mailcap My /etc/urlview/url_handler.sh has this: http_prgs=/usr/bin/X11/opera:PW /usr/bin/w3m -F -T:XT What am I doing wrong, that the links aren't active? this handles which programm urlview calls when you select a url and hit enter. BTW, that should read http_prgs=/usr/bin/X11/opera:XW HTH, Michael -- If you want to travel around the world and be invited to speak at a lot of different places, just write a Unix operating system. (By Linus Torvalds) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: Viewing HTML difficulties in mutt 1.4
Forgot my setup :) alternative_order text/plain text/enriched text/html auto_view text/html set mailcap_path=/etc/mailcap:/usr/local/etc/mailcap /usr/local/etc/mailcap: # this is used when (v)iewing the html - browsable links text/html; w3m -v -F -T text/html %s # this is the auto_view entry - dumps html to plain text text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; copiousoutput; needsterminal HTH, Michael -- linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste ([EMAIL PROTECTED] put this on Tshirts in '93) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
source /etc/mutt/indexhooks.pl| documentation bug.
I have this perl program to write folder hooks so I can return to
the same place in the mailboxes screen from the index screen,
instead of always to the first line:
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
my mailboxes = glob(Mail/*);
foreach my $mailbox ( mailboxes )
{
$mailbox =~ s/^ Mail\/ (.*)$/=$1/x;
print qq{folder-hook $mailbox 'macro index h
change-folder?tabsearch$mailboxenter'\n};
}
I source it in /etc/Muttrc with this line:
source /etc/mutt/indexhooks.pl|/
to put output into Muttrc, following the direction in the manual,
If the filename ends with a vertical bar (|), then filename is
considered to be an executable program from which to read input (eg.
source ~bin/myscript|/).
but I was getting this error:
Error in /etc/Muttrc, line 709: /etc/mutt/indexhooks.pl|/:
No such file or directory
source: errors in /etc/Muttrc
Press any key to continue...
I then took off the final slash, and it started working. So, I
think this is a documentation bug.
However, this is on cygwin, so perhaps it is an idiosyncracy
of cygwin, rather than a documentation bug.
Re: source /etc/mutt/indexhooks.pl| documentation bug.
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 10:17:26PM +0800, Greg Matheson wrote: I source it in /etc/Muttrc with this line: source /etc/mutt/indexhooks.pl|/ to put output into Muttrc, following the direction in the manual, If the filename ends with a vertical bar (|), then filename is considered to be an executable program from which to read input (eg. source ~bin/myscript|/). but I was getting this error: Error in /etc/Muttrc, line 709: /etc/mutt/indexhooks.pl|/: No such file or directory source: errors in /etc/Muttrc Press any key to continue... I then took off the final slash, and it started working. So, I think this is a documentation bug. However, this is on cygwin, so perhaps it is an idiosyncracy of cygwin, rather than a documentation bug. I'm using GNU/Linux and have the same problem. This is a true documentation bug. -- Bernard Massot msg31902/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
mutt sucks...
All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less. :-) I'm new to the list and wanted to say Hi! to everybody. I'm also new to mutt, vim and even Linux. Previously I used to handle all my mail under Windows. The program of my choice was The Bat! - IMHO the best mail client for Windows. OK. Enough. It's The Mutt Users List. I've read some tutorials. I installed mutt, vim and procmail (because mutt does not filter incoming mail). So far this trio works fine, but it still needs some improvements. I have a few questions: 1. Displaying of X-Headers. My favourite newsreader is slrn. I could define there sth like this: Show the following headers (visible headers): From: Date: X- Headers to hide: !X-Mime !X-MSMail !X-Priority !X-Complaints So I could see all important to me X-headers and hide those stupid ones... Possible in mutt? 2. While scrolling the message with Spacebar it scrolls one line too much. Can it be changed? I like to see the last line of the previous page (hope you know what I mean). 3. In The Bat! I had a filter which colored all replies to my mails. It based on References: header and my unique Message-ID. Possible in mutt? 4. Folders - it really sucks! I even cannot see how many read/unread messages there are in a particular folder if I don't enter it... 5. Using up/down arrows I scroll through messages (index view). Why it skips whole page? I'd like it to work same as in slrn. 6. What's the default shortcut for Mark all tagged messages as read? 7. C - copies messages to a different folder. What key moves them? 8. Can I import my Address Book from The Bat!? 9. Au! There is no address book built in. What would you suggest? Abook or sth else? 10. I still do not understand this Tab completion thing - it seems that sometimes it simply DOES NOT work as expected. 11. What's the newest version of mutt? Is there a lot of problems using beta versions? (when I used TB! it was almost always the newest beta). 12. How do I create multiple identities? Different from, attribute line and language settings for different mailing lists. Possible? How? Folder-hooks or only send-hooks? 13. How can I move old mail to a different folders? Automatically of course. For example for this list? How? 14. Can I send within mutt mail to all users on my system? vim related problems: 15. It's very very tiring manually stripping those signatures and manually adding signs when reformatting a paragraph. In TB! it was automatic... 16. I have ispell installed. It works fine. I can switch between english and polish dictionaries. Is it possible to automatically set proper dictionary? I mean: English for english language mailing lists and polish for polish language lists? 17. When spellchecker underlines a word - can I add it to the user dictionary? How? I'm having only console - so no mouse right click. 18. Why ispell spells too much? It even tries to spell quoted text or header lines. It's stupid. Can I change it? Well... I'm pretty sure I have more questions, but I can't remember all of them now. regards, -- kocurek
Re: mutt sucks...
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 09:29:37PM +0200, Jacek Wojaczynski wrote: Headers to hide: !X-Mime !X-MSMail !X-Priority !X-Complaints So I could see all important to me X-headers and hide those stupid ones... Possible in mutt? Of course, and even better: ignore * unignore date from to cc subject x-mailer resent-from reply-to X-Spam-Status 2. While scrolling the message with Spacebar it scrolls one line too much. Can it be changed? I like to see the last line of the previous page (hope you know what I mean). Yes. set pager_context = 1 3. In The Bat! I had a filter which colored all replies to my mails. It based on References: header and my unique Message-ID. Possible in mutt? Dunno. Probably. 9. Au! There is no address book built in. What would you suggest? Abook or sth else? There's one built in. 10. I still do not understand this Tab completion thing - it seems that sometimes it simply DOES NOT work as expected. Works here. 11. What's the newest version of mutt? Is there a lot of problems using beta versions? (when I used TB! it was almost always the newest beta). 1.4 is the release, 1.5.x is beta. 12. How do I create multiple identities? Different from, attribute line and language settings for different mailing lists. Possible? How? Folder-hooks or only send-hooks? Use send-hooks. 14. Can I send within mutt mail to all users on my system? Of course. I even can send mail to the internet. 15. It's very very tiring manually stripping those signatures and manually adding signs when reformatting a paragraph. In TB! it was automatic... vim specific. There are macros for everything. -- Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V a) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite Campus MitteTel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Referat V a - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 I fit in my suit, my suit fits in my suitcase. Hence i fit in my suitcase.
Re: mutt sucks...
* Jacek Wojaczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-19 21:29:37 +0200]: All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less. :-) I'm new to the list and wanted to say Hi! to everybody. Me too. Imagine my consternation when the *first* message I see says Mutt sucks. 1. Displaying of X-Headers. My favourite newsreader is slrn. I could define there sth like this: Show the following headers (visible headers): From: Date: X- Headers to hide: !X-Mime !X-MSMail !X-Priority !X-Complaints So I could see all important to me X-headers and hide those stupid ones... Possible in mutt? Try this in your .muttrc # Configure header displays. # Ignore all headers ignore * # Then un-ignore the ones I want to see unignore From: unignore Date: # Now order the visable header lines hdr_order From: Date: This was lifted from Dave Pearson's site http://www.davep.org/ and modified. regards, kocurek Unfortunately, this was the only question I had an answer for 8-(, however there are lots of good examples in the .muttrc files at http://www.mutt.org/links.html#config Colin -- Colin KeefeWe never do anything well till we cease [EMAIL PROTECTED] to think about the manner of doing it. -William Hazlitt
Re: mutt sucks...
* Jacek Wojaczynski: 3. In The Bat! I had a filter which colored all replies to my mails. It based on References: header and my unique Message-ID. Possible in mutt? you can use patterns for 'color index', refer to man muttrc for details on that. 7. C - copies messages to a different folder. What key moves them? saving the message to a different folder will mark it as deleted in the originating folder. 9. Au! There is no address book built in. What would you suggest? Abook or sth else? abook or if you need to work with different datasources (ldap etc) maybe lbdb. Regards, Lars -- Lars Heiermann Team ['ju:nien] || http://www.junien.org Team LANparty.de || http://www.LANparty.de
Re: mutt sucks...
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 23:02:15 +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 09:29:37PM +0200, Jacek Wojaczynski wrote: 3. In The Bat! I had a filter which colored all replies to my mails. It based on References: header and my unique Message-ID. Possible in mutt? Dunno. Probably. Yes, if you can find a pattern in the message-id, which can generally be the case, except when you send mail with some utilities that build the message-id in some way or when you send mail from a friend's machine for instance. 11. What's the newest version of mutt? Is there a lot of problems using beta versions? (when I used TB! it was almost always the newest beta). 1.4 is the release, 1.5.x is beta. and I've always been using betas, no problems with them. But you cannot know if some day, there won't be one that would be seriously broken. 12. How do I create multiple identities? Different from, attribute line and language settings for different mailing lists. Possible? How? Folder-hooks or only send-hooks? Use send-hooks. and the $alternates variable to recognize all your addresses. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
Re: mutt sucks...
Jacek Wojaczynski wrote: 4. Folders - it really sucks! I even cannot see how many read/unread messages there are in a particular folder if I don't enter it... Sounds like you haven't listed your mailboxes in .muttrc: mailboxes ! mailboxes =mutt =procmail-user =linux-kernel =vim-user mailboxes =list1 5. Using up/down arrows I scroll through messages (index view). Why it skips whole page? I'd like it to work same as in slrn. Read the manual, assign a new keybinding. 6. What's the default shortcut for Mark all tagged messages as read? The manual is here: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/ You are looking for tag and patterns. 7. C - copies messages to a different folder. What key moves them? saving them does that. 8. Can I import my Address Book from The Bat!? Probably. Can the Bat export them in a useful format? 9. Au! There is no address book built in. What would you suggest? Abook or sth else? There is, you didn't read the manual. 10. I still do not understand this Tab completion thing - it seems that sometimes it simply DOES NOT work as expected. Does it behave the way the manual expects it to behave? If not, file a bug. 11. What's the newest version of mutt? Is there a lot of problems using beta versions? (when I used TB! it was almost always the newest beta). These are at the top of the www.mutt.org page. In general, don't use a development release unless you need a feature in it or are doing development work. 12. How do I create multiple identities? Different from, attribute line and language settings for different mailing lists. Possible? How? Folder-hooks or only send-hooks? Have you looked at the sample .muttrc's provided at http://www.mutt.org/links.html#config ? 13. How can I move old mail to a different folders? Automatically of course. For example for this list? How? Depends. Do you want shiny clean folders with nothing in them except fresh email that you've never seen? Do you want folders with relatively recent email, so that anything over n days/weeks/months old is archived? Think about folder-hooks, and read those sample .muttrc files. 14. Can I send within mutt mail to all users on my system? Sure. If you have an alias established by your MTA or in mutt, this becomes easier. vim related problems: Really ought to go to the vim lists. For example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim) 15. It's very very tiring manually stripping those signatures and manually adding signs when reformatting a paragraph. In TB! it was automatic... If you need to reformat a paragraph, use fmt or par, or learn regexps. 16. I have ispell installed. It works fine. I can switch between english and polish dictionaries. Is it possible to automatically set proper dictionary? I mean: English for english language mailing lists and polish for polish language lists? I don't use spellcheckers; however, I imagine that you would read the ispell docs to find out how to switch dictionaries according to a command line or environment variable, and set that in a folder-hook. 17. When spellchecker underlines a word - can I add it to the user dictionary? How? I'm having only console - so no mouse right click. ispell documentation almost certainly has this. 18. Why ispell spells too much? It even tries to spell quoted text or header lines. It's stupid. Can I change it? Yes. It's open source. -dsr- -- Lois McMaster Bujold and Terrance Dicks's _Dr Who: Miles Away!_, in which the heroic Time Lord's attempts to overthrow an oppressive star empire are repeatedly thwarted by an infuriating dwarf. --Graham Woodland
Re: mutt sucks...
Hi Jacek, * Jacek Wojaczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [19. Okt. 2002]: [...] 3. In The Bat! I had a filter which colored all replies to my mails. It based on References: header and my unique Message-ID. Possible in mutt? color index default color7 '~h ^references:[[:blank:]].*pit.id-43118.user.dfncis.de$' ^^^ this colors all messages which are direct replies to mine. pit.id-43118.user.dfncis.de is the local part of my message-ids. 4. Folders - it really sucks! I even cannot see how many read/unread messages there are in a particular folder if I don't enter it... notwendig way... 5. Using up/down arrows I scroll through messages (index view). Why it skips whole page? I'd like it to work same as in slrn. try set menu_scroll=yes in .muttrc. 6. What's the default shortcut for Mark all tagged messages as read? when the messages are already tagged, it's thre key strokes: ;wo or you write a macro. 7. C - copies messages to a different folder. What key moves them? s 9. Au! There is no address book built in. What would you suggest? Abook or sth else? lbdb is great. 12. How do I create multiple identities? Different from, attribute line and language settings for different mailing lists. Possible? How? Folder-hooks or only send-hooks? read http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/~mara/mutt/profiles.html 13. How can I move old mail to a different folders? Automatically of course. For example for this list? How? you could rewrite the following: ## Move messages to trash rather than delete, unless ## we're in the trash folder. folder-hook . 'macro index d enter-commandset confirmappend=noentersave-message=trashenterenter-commandset confirmappend=yesenter' folder-hook . 'macro pager d enter-commandset confirmappend=noentersave-message=trashenterenter-commandset confirmappend=yesenter' folder-hook trash 'macro index d delete-message' folder-hook trash 'macro pager d delete-message' ## Delete old, non-flagged, non-new mail folder-hook trash 'push delete-pattern~r10d!(~F|~N)enter' Ciao, Gregor -- The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet. -- William Gibson
Re: mutt sucks...
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 09:29:37PM +0200, Jacek Wojaczynski wrote: 3. In The Bat! I had a filter which colored all replies to my mails. It based on References: header and my unique Message-ID. Possible in mutt? Dunno. Probably. I use this to color my eMails and the replies on them in known MLs: | # my mails | color index brightblue default ~l ~P | | # answers to my mails | color index cyandefault \ | ~l ~x \.*(mypc.mydomain.de|mypc2.mydomain2.de)\ | color index brightred brightcyan \ | ~N ~l ~x \.*(mypc.mydomain.de|mypc2.mydomain2.de)\ For infos about the ~ patterns look at 'man muttrc' 9. Au! There is no address book built in. What would you ? suggest Abook or sth else? There's one built in. | http://www.spinnaker.de/lbdb/ 12. How do I create multiple identities? Different from, attribute line and language settings for different mailing lists. Possible? How? Folder-hooks or only send-hooks? | http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/%7Emara/mutt/profiles.html 15. It's very very tiring manually stripping those signatures and manually adding signs when reformatting a paragraph. In TB! it was automatic... vim specific. There are macros for everything. | http://www.vim.org/scripts.php Search for 'mail signature' in the script section. Also try out the gq macro. O yes, and don't forget to check out par: | http://www.nicemice.net/par/ Ja allâh bina! -- Raechzschraibraephorm - findichgut. :-) msg31910/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
