Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 10:54:16PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Christian Ebert, Am 2010-08-05 15:45:48, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: As Erik is using Maildir even that wouldn't help much as the messages would be delivered to Maildir/new/ . And if he had looked into the archive of the procmail list, he would know how to make files read. Including modifying the courrierimapuidb That is false attribution. Erik proposed a possible workaround. It is in fact Yue Wu who has the problem, and therefore might wish to consult the archives. That can be seen in the archives, if one cares to look. Erik (Who is in fact using mbox.) -- To err is humor.
Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status
Hi Yue, * Yue Wu vano...@gmail.com [06. Aug. 2010]: On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 03:45:48PM +0100, Christian Ebert wrote: * Erik Christiansen on Friday, August 06, 2010 at 00:38:37 +1000 On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 09:18:45PM +0800, Yue Wu wrote: I don't only want to redeliver my emails, but also not let all redelivered mails become into the unread status. I'm using maildir format, and tried with the following script: for j in $(find $2 -type d | grep cur) ; do ( cd $j ; for i in * ; do cat $i | formail -ds procmail ; done) ; done But after redeliverd, all emails are new, i.e. unread in mutt, that's not what I want. Since they have been redelivered, it's hard to blame mutt for indicating that. Since you are running a script over each one anyway, you could perhaps remember the value of the Status: header in each email, and restore it after redelivery. While formail will munge headers for you, I haven't tried fighting mutt to set the Status: header. You might need to do that faking post-delivery. As Erik is using Maildir even that wouldn't help much as the messages would be delivered to Maildir/new/ . But if I want to re-orgnize my emails with a different rule, how do you do it in such case? Orgnizing all mails to be unread then mark the old ones to be read is very tedious if mails is many. I think there are three possible solutions: a) don't refile with procmail, refile with mutt instead. The pattern matching capabilities of mutt are very powerful but naturally limited to a single folder if you want zu refile from several folders this would be a problem. But this is also scriptable. b) refile with procmail *and* tag emails as refiled, for instance using the X-Label: -Header. - The unread them - in mutt - manually: does not scale when many mail folders are involved - via a folder-hook and pattern matching. May be slow for large mail folders and happens even when no refiling - once via a shell script c) don't refile them use searching strategies on your emails via mairix and don't bother with the location of the emails. Ciao, Gregor -- -... --- .-. . -.. ..--.. ...-.-
Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 10:48:05AM +0800, Yue Wu wrote: In my case, after re-procmail, every email will be unread, I can't recorgnize which are those I've read, I have to look those emails one by one and recall if it's really read or unread by me. In the script or procmail recipe that refiles them, read in the current read or unread status, and write another header with that status (eg, X-Refiled: read). After you refile, use mutt header matching to update the status accordingly. If you're going to do this more than once, you'll want to make a final pass to remove that header, so it doesn't mess you up on the next pass. Ed signature.txt Description: Digital signature
Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status
Hello Christian Ebert, Am 2010-08-05 15:45:48, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: As Erik is using Maildir even that wouldn't help much as the messages would be delivered to Maildir/new/ . And if he had looked into the archive of the procmail list, he would know how to make files read. Including modifying the courrierimapuidb I have posted the solution several times... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsyst...@tdnet France EURL itsyst...@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle KonzackOwner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +33-9-52705884 fix http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.flexray4linux.org/ http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.can4linux.org/ Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de ICQ#328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status
Hello Yue Wu,
Am 2010-08-05 21:18:45, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
for j in $(find $2 -type d | grep cur) ; do (
cd $j ;
for i in * ;
do cat $i | formail -ds procmail ;
done) ;
done
But after redeliverd, all emails are new, i.e. unread in mutt, that's not what
I want.
What about with:
for j in $(find $2 -type d | grep cur) ; do
cd ${j}
for i in * ; do
formail -I X-Re-Filter: true ${i} |procmail
done
done
and then in Procmail do at the beginning
:0
* ^X-Re-Filter: true
{
TRAP='DIR=$(dirname ${LASTFOLDER} |sed 's|/new$|/cur|') ; FILE=$(basename
${LASTFOLDER}) ; mv ${LASTFOLDER} ${DIR}/${FILE}:2,S'
:0fw
| formail -I X-Re-Filter:
}
Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack
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Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status
* Yue Wu vano...@gmail.com [08-05-10 08:39]: Sometimes I want to filter my emails with new rule of procmail, archived list has the way to re-procmail, but all re-procmailed mails will be at the new unread status. My question is, how to re-procmail without changing the read/unread status of emails? You don't say the type of mail system, but I use mbox and the following works for me. formail -ds procmail [mbox-file] will redeliver your mbox-file based of the present procmail rules splitting digest messages. Use only -d if you do not want the splitting. formail -ds procmail -m newrules.rc mbox-file will redeliver based on the rules contained in newrules.rc. Prepend paths where necessary. I would use duplicate files or work inside a sandbox environment for testing first. gud luk, -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org
Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 08:50:22AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Yue Wu vano...@gmail.com [08-05-10 08:39]: Sometimes I want to filter my emails with new rule of procmail, archived list has the way to re-procmail, but all re-procmailed mails will be at the new unread status. My question is, how to re-procmail without changing the read/unread status of emails? You don't say the type of mail system, but I use mbox and the following works for me. formail -ds procmail [mbox-file] will redeliver your mbox-file based of the present procmail rules splitting digest messages. Use only -d if you do not want the splitting. I don't only want to redeliver my emails, but also not let all redelivered mails become into the unread status. I'm using maildir format, and tried with the following script: for j in $(find $2 -type d | grep cur) ; do ( cd $j ; for i in * ; do cat $i | formail -ds procmail ; done) ; done But after redeliverd, all emails are new, i.e. unread in mutt, that's not what I want. -- Regards, Yue Wu Key Laboratory of Modern Chinese Medicines Department of Traditional Chinese Medicine China Pharmaceutical University No.24, Tongjia Xiang Street, Nanjing 210009, China
Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 09:18:45PM +0800, Yue Wu wrote: I don't only want to redeliver my emails, but also not let all redelivered mails become into the unread status. I'm using maildir format, and tried with the following script: for j in $(find $2 -type d | grep cur) ; do ( cd $j ; for i in * ; do cat $i | formail -ds procmail ; done) ; done But after redeliverd, all emails are new, i.e. unread in mutt, that's not what I want. Since they have been redelivered, it's hard to blame mutt for indicating that. Since you are running a script over each one anyway, you could perhaps remember the value of the Status: header in each email, and restore it after redelivery. While formail will munge headers for you, I haven't tried fighting mutt to set the Status: header. You might need to do that faking post-delivery. Erik -- Due to circumstances beyond our control, we regret to inform you that circumstances are beyond our control.-Paul Benoit
Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status
* Erik Christiansen on Friday, August 06, 2010 at 00:38:37 +1000 On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 09:18:45PM +0800, Yue Wu wrote: I don't only want to redeliver my emails, but also not let all redelivered mails become into the unread status. I'm using maildir format, and tried with the following script: for j in $(find $2 -type d | grep cur) ; do ( cd $j ; for i in * ; do cat $i | formail -ds procmail ; done) ; done But after redeliverd, all emails are new, i.e. unread in mutt, that's not what I want. Since they have been redelivered, it's hard to blame mutt for indicating that. Since you are running a script over each one anyway, you could perhaps remember the value of the Status: header in each email, and restore it after redelivery. While formail will munge headers for you, I haven't tried fighting mutt to set the Status: header. You might need to do that faking post-delivery. As Erik is using Maildir even that wouldn't help much as the messages would be delivered to Maildir/new/ . c -- theatre - books - texts - movies Black Trash Productions at home: http://www.blacktrash.org/ Black Trash Productions on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/blacktrashproductions
Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 03:45:48PM +0100, Christian Ebert wrote: * Erik Christiansen on Friday, August 06, 2010 at 00:38:37 +1000 On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 09:18:45PM +0800, Yue Wu wrote: I don't only want to redeliver my emails, but also not let all redelivered mails become into the unread status. I'm using maildir format, and tried with the following script: for j in $(find $2 -type d | grep cur) ; do ( cd $j ; for i in * ; do cat $i | formail -ds procmail ; done) ; done But after redeliverd, all emails are new, i.e. unread in mutt, that's not what I want. Since they have been redelivered, it's hard to blame mutt for indicating that. Since you are running a script over each one anyway, you could perhaps remember the value of the Status: header in each email, and restore it after redelivery. While formail will munge headers for you, I haven't tried fighting mutt to set the Status: header. You might need to do that faking post-delivery. As Erik is using Maildir even that wouldn't help much as the messages would be delivered to Maildir/new/ . But if I want to re-orgnize my emails with a different rule, how do you do it in such case? Orgnizing all mails to be unread then mark the old ones to be read is very tedious if mails is many. -- Regards, Yue Wu Key Laboratory of Modern Chinese Medicines Department of Traditional Chinese Medicine China Pharmaceutical University No.24, Tongjia Xiang Street, Nanjing 210009, China
Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 08:34:01AM +0800, Yue Wu wrote: Orgnizing all mails to be unread then mark the old ones to be read is very tedious if mails is many. Really? How about T ~N ;N ? Or in long form: tag-pattern pattern = new messages = ~N tag-prefixtoggle-new Optionally use ~O for old messages. -- Monte
Re: How to re-procmail emails without modifying read/unread status
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:51:28PM -0300, Monte Stevens wrote: On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 08:34:01AM +0800, Yue Wu wrote: Orgnizing all mails to be unread then mark the old ones to be read is very tedious if mails is many. Really? How about T ~N ;N ? Or in long form: tag-pattern pattern = new messages = ~N tag-prefixtoggle-new Optionally use ~O for old messages. In my case, after re-procmail, every email will be unread, I can't recorgnize which are those I've read, I have to look those emails one by one and recall if it's really read or unread by me. -- Regards, Yue Wu Key Laboratory of Modern Chinese Medicines Department of Traditional Chinese Medicine China Pharmaceutical University No.24, Tongjia Xiang Street, Nanjing 210009, China
