Re: key macros
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04 13:17]: It looks like that's the case for Ctl, anyway, and maybe for Shf. Given, thanks to my new friend Bob, the handy perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' to take input per line and spit out key codes and then running echo ctl-v f1 | ... echo ctl-v shf-f1 | ... echo ctl-v ctl-ft | ... we get 27 79 80 27 91 50 51 126 27 79 80 (where F1 and Ctl-F1 appear as '^[OP' and Shf-F1 is '^[[23~'), so there is no difference whatsoever between F1 and C-F1, while S-F1 might be tricky to recognize because it's longer (and, in fact, the same as F11, as Kurt showed). I get: $ echo ctrl-v f1 | perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' 27 79 80 $ echo ctrl-v ctrl-F1 | perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' 27 79 53 80 I'm using a happy hacking keyboard, which might make a difference, but I doubt it. (darren) -- People who are willing to give up freedom for the sake of short term security, deserve neither freedom nor security. -- Ben Franklin
Re: key macros
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, darren chamberlain wrote: I get: $ echo ctrl-v f1 | perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' 27 79 80 $ echo ctrl-v ctrl-F1 | perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' 27 79 53 80 I'm using a happy hacking keyboard, which might make a difference, but I doubt it. esc [ 5 P is XFree86 xterm PC-style control/F1, documented in ctlseqs.ms, e.g., In normal mode, i.e., a Sun/PC keyboard when the sunKeyboard resource is false, xterm recognizes function key modifiers which are parameters appended before the final character of the control sequence. Code Modifiers - 2 Shift 3 Alt 4 Shift + Alt 5 Control 6 Shift + Control 7 Alt + Control 8 Shift + Alt + Control For example, shift-F5 would be sent as CSI 1 5 ; 2 ~ -- T.E.Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: key macros
Kurt -- ...and then Kurt Hindenburg said... % % This works % macro index f2 change-folder~/Mail/mutt\n % % Let's say I want to use Ctrl F2 or Shift F2. I could not find % anything in the manual. I did see ESC, but nothing for the Shift % nor Ctrl keys. That's an interesting one. For control you can probably use \cF2 in the typical ctrl- notation (well, typical for mutt, anyway, though I've seen it elsewhere). I suppose you'll have to whip out your term program to see what keycode shft-F2 generates and work from there, but perhaps someone can come along and provide a better idea. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28582/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: key macros
Hi, * David T-G [2002-06-04 17:50:33 CEST] wrote: ...and then Kurt Hindenburg said... % This works % macro index f2 change-folder~/Mail/mutt\n % % Let's say I want to use Ctrl F2 or Shift F2. I could not find % anything in the manual. I did see ESC, but nothing for the Shift % nor Ctrl keys. That's an interesting one. Indeed. For control you can probably use \cF2 Tried it? Doesn't work (here). Cheers, Rocco
Re: key macros
* Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04 11:32]: Hi, * David T-G [2002-06-04 17:50:33 CEST] wrote: ...and then Kurt Hindenburg said... % This works % macro index f2 change-folder~/Mail/mutt\n % % Let's say I want to use Ctrl F2 or Shift F2. I could not find % anything in the manual. I did see ESC, but nothing for the Shift % nor Ctrl keys. That's an interesting one. Indeed. For control you can probably use \cF2 Tried it? Doesn't work (here). Same here, I get 'key is not bound'. Which makes you think it is possible. I noticed that on my keyboard that f11 == pressing Shift + F1, f12 == Shift + F2, etc...
Re: key macros
Rocco, et al -- ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % % Hi, Hello! % % * David T-G [2002-06-04 17:50:33 CEST] wrote: % ...and then Kurt Hindenburg said... % ... % % Let's say I want to use Ctrl F2 or Shift F2. I could not find ... % For control you can probably use % %\cF2 % % Tried it? Doesn't work (here). Darn. Back to the key codes, I guess. There's a handy utility that spits out the keycodes it gets, though I'm sure the equivalent could be whipped in perl as a one-liner. Anybody recall it? % % Cheers, Rocco HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28585/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: key macros
Kurt Hindenburg wrote: Let's say I want to use Ctrl F2 or Shift F2. I could not find anything in the manual. I did see ESC, but nothing for the Shift nor Ctrl keys. There is no way (that I know of, and I'm sure Thomas Dickey will correct me here if I'm wrong) to use control or shift with function keys.
Re: key macros
* On 2002.06.04, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a handy utility that spits out the keycodes it gets, though I'm sure the equivalent could be whipped in perl as a one-liner. Anybody recall it? You might be thinking of dumpkeys, but it's a Linux thing. Anyway, keycodes are keyboard event numbers, and they don't necessarily correspond to ASCII key sequences that the terminal emulation can respond to. There are no particular control-function or shift-function codes that I'm aware of. OTOH, depending on your OS, you could remap those input events via the keyboard driver and keymap settings to send some other terminal sequence, so that, for example, control-f1 delivers an ESC-O + ESC-D, or some such complexity. That could be remapped inside mutt. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: key macros
Michael, et al -- ...and then Michael Elkins said... % % Kurt Hindenburg wrote: % Let's say I want to use Ctrl F2 or Shift F2. I could not find % anything in the manual. I did see ESC, but nothing for the Shift % nor Ctrl keys. % % There is no way (that I know of, and I'm sure Thomas Dickey will correct % me here if I'm wrong) to use control or shift with function keys. It looks like that's the case for Ctl, anyway, and maybe for Shf. Given, thanks to my new friend Bob, the handy perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' to take input per line and spit out key codes and then running echo ctl-v f1 | ... echo ctl-v shf-f1 | ... echo ctl-v ctl-ft | ... we get 27 79 80 27 91 50 51 126 27 79 80 (where F1 and Ctl-F1 appear as '^[OP' and Shf-F1 is '^[[23~'), so there is no difference whatsoever between F1 and C-F1, while S-F1 might be tricky to recognize because it's longer (and, in fact, the same as F11, as Kurt showed). Hmmm... The keyboard stops at F12, but Shf-F3 carries on in the same fashion. Perhaps one could use the shifted keys as long as one expects to only go 1-10 and for 1112 to be mapped back over to the other side... Anyway, I've forgotten how to (if you can!) define macros by key code, but perhaps a macro rather than a binding would do the trick. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28591/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: key macros - dumpkeys + showkey
* David Thorburn-Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04]: It looks like that's the case for Ctl, anyway, and maybe for Shf. Given, thanks to my new friend Bob, the handy perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' to take input per line and spit out key codes and then running kewl. talk about killing a sparrow with perl.. man dumpkeys man showkey and even if you'll get xmodmap to do something for pressing Extended-Meta-Alternate-Control-Shift - forget all about it when using mutt (or whataever) within a terminal over some connection. Sven [always using ASCII - because it *works*]
Re: key macros - dumpkeys + showkey
Sven, et al -- ...and then Sven Guckes said... % % * David Thorburn-Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04]: % It looks like that's the case for Ctl, anyway, and maybe for Shf. % Given, thanks to my new friend Bob, the handy %perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' % to take input per line and spit out key codes and then running % % kewl. talk about killing a sparrow with perl.. Hey, if it works... % % man dumpkeys % man showkey The former was pointed out to me earlier, and I'm grateful for the pointer to the latter, though I had seen it but couldn't use it. I tried looking a bit for these sorts of things earlier and got something much like [zero] [3:19pm] ~ man -k key | grep code keybound (3ncurses) - return definition of keycode .. showkey (1) - examine the codes sent by the keyboard define_key (3ncurses) - define a keycode .. getkeycodes (8) - print kernel scancode-to-keycode mapping table keyok (3ncurses) - enable or disable a keycode .. setkeycodes (8) - load kernel scancode-to-keycode mapping table entries but trying something that looked promising yielded [zero] [3:19pm] ~ showkey Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console and so I didn't really bother to pursue it much more. After all, I'm not the one who's trying to bind shifted function keys. % % and even if you'll get xmodmap to do something for Well, that sort of assumes you're running under X, now, doesn't it? % pressing Extended-Meta-Alternate-Control-Shift - % forget all about it when using mutt (or whataever) % within a terminal over some connection. % % Sven [always using ASCII - because it *works*] It sure does! Thanks HAND :-D the only true ELQ -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28602/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: key macros - dumpkeys + showkey
* DavidThorburn-Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04 20:23]: %perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' % kewl. talk about killing a sparrow with perl.. Hey, if it works... overkill. [zero] [3:19pm] ~ man -k key | grep code some people will know man -k as apropos.. but trying something that looked promising yielded [zero] [3:19pm] ~ showkey Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console well, you need to use it on the console, i guess. and so I didn't really bother to pursue it much more. After all, I'm not the one who's trying to bind shifted function keys. % and even if you'll get xmodmap to do something for Well, that sort of assumes you're running under X, now, doesn't it? sort of. it was just an example. Thanks HAND :-D the only true ELQ that reminds me to update my display_filter... Sven
