Catalyst6509 GE interface hang without any indication

2004-05-25 Thread Joe Shen


Hi,


We are using a Catalyst6509 as distribution layer switch which is connected to M160 by 
GE interface( OSPF run on both side)..

Yesterday we noticed that no traffic occur on that GE link at some special time. 
 When trying to ping  the other side on either platform,  no responds got. 
 But, on either M160 or Catalyst6509 sh interface  
showed  no errors information.  When checking syslog, there is no error record  
either.  

We also checked the configuration record for both system, and found there is no  
modification in configuration at the time when link load becomes zero.

As last resort, we solved this problem by  shutdown  GE VLAN interface  on 
Catalyst6509, and  no shut consequently, then everything 
come up. 

But, today another Catalyst6509 of our system hanged on its uplink GE. We have to 
restarted the box to solve. Different from the catalyst6509 hanged yesterday, this 
catalyst6509 have netflow-export enabled for month.  ( I included the detailed info at 
the end )

I tried hard to find out the reason but  can't find any information related on Cisco's 
site. 



Is there anybody could do me a favor to do some help?

Each word will be highly appreciated.


regards
 
Joe Shen


/ info for the first 
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Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Here it is, complete with OC-768 interface:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5763/index.html



Re: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Leo Bicknell

I don't think Reuters was impressed:

From http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/nm/20040525/tc_nm/tech_cisco_router_dc_2

] Routers, which look like pizza boxes piled atop each other, are one of
] the most boring pieces of equipment to look at, but probably the most
] crucial as they are used to direct information and data on a network.

-- 
   Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440
PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org


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RE: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Michel Py

 Eric Kuhnke
 Here it is, complete with OC-768 interface:
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5763/index.html

It's a BFR allright. I wonder how much OC-768 linecards will go for; if
it's consistent with 2OC192/POS-IR-SC some will be over a million list a
pop. And you thought 12816 gear was pricey?

Michel.




Re: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Kevin Oberman

 Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 09:23:14 -0700
 From: Michel Py [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  Eric Kuhnke
  Here it is, complete with OC-768 interface:
  http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5763/index.html
 
 It's a BFR allright. I wonder how much OC-768 linecards will go for; if
 it's consistent with 2OC192/POS-IR-SC some will be over a million list a
 pop. And you thought 12816 gear was pricey?

No. The BFR was the development name for Tony Li's last Cisco project
and morphed into the GSR. The processor card in at least early GSRs had
a BFR sticker on them. 

This box is the HFR which, according to the San Jose Mercury, is short
for Huge Fast Router. (Some reporter at the Merc probably still
believes in the tooth fairy.)

As with many things, if you have to ask how much it costs before
deciding to order it, you can't afford it.
-- 
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Phone: +1 510 486-8634


RE: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Burton, Chris

According to what the site says and from what I have heard they are
talking about a $450,000-$500,000 base price for the single shelf unit
and the OC768 Cards will probably be quite expensive until one of the
other companies (Juniper or Avici) comes out with something competitive.

Chris Burton
Network Engineer
Walt Disney Internet Group: Network Services


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Michel Py
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:23 AM
To: Eric Kuhnke; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco HFR



 Eric Kuhnke
 Here it is, complete with OC-768 interface: 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5763/index.html

It's a BFR allright. I wonder how much OC-768 linecards will go for; if
it's consistent with 2OC192/POS-IR-SC some will be over a million list a
pop. And you thought 12816 gear was pricey?

Michel.




RE: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Michel Py

 This box is the HFR which, according to the San Jose Mercury,
 is short for Huge Fast Router. (Some reporter at the Merc
 probably still believes in the tooth fairy.)

Same as the BFR, I heard a different interpretation of the word in the
middle :-)


 As with many things, if you have to ask how much it costs
 before deciding to order it, you can't afford it.

You don't get it, me thinks. For lots of people here, networks are not a
toy funded by the taxpayer's money, they're a tool to make money and
popular wisdom that I have found being practiced here says that indeed
you _do_ ask how much it costs before you buy it. I don't buy a million
bucks peace of equipment because it looks cool and I just got funding. I
buy a million bucks piece of equipment because I want ROI on it, and if
the ROI is 500k over 5 years I actually don't buy it.

Michel.




NANOG Lost/Found

2004-05-25 Thread Carol Wadsworth
Found:  one RSA SecurID at NANOG Registration Desk


RE: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Andy Dills

On Tue, 25 May 2004, Michel Py wrote:

  As with many things, if you have to ask how much it costs
  before deciding to order it, you can't afford it.

 You don't get it, me thinks. For lots of people here, networks are not a
 toy funded by the taxpayer's money, they're a tool to make money and
 popular wisdom that I have found being practiced here says that indeed
 you _do_ ask how much it costs before you buy it. I don't buy a million
 bucks peace of equipment because it looks cool and I just got funding. I
 buy a million bucks piece of equipment because I want ROI on it, and if
 the ROI is 500k over 5 years I actually don't buy it.

Yeah, the state of CA sure hasn't purchased tens of millions of dollars
worth of stuff they don't need *cough*oracle*cough*. :)

I think the point was, for people who actually need this router, price
isn't a factor. If you actually need it, there are no other options. And
if money is a primary consideration, this is not the router for you. The
secondary market is obviously where the value is...and I doubt these will
show up on ebay.

Andy

---
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---


Re: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Interestingly the OC-768 card has a max transmit power of 5dB and is 
short-range optics only.  As far as I know there are no 2R or 3R 
regeneration solutions for long haul 40Gb/s circuits, nor are there any 
DWDM systems that can do 8, 16 or 32 40Gb/s wavelengths.

Burton, Chris wrote:
According to what the site says and from what I have heard they are
talking about a $450,000-$500,000 base price for the single shelf unit
and the OC768 Cards will probably be quite expensive until one of the
other companies (Juniper or Avici) comes out with something competitive.
Chris Burton
Network Engineer
Walt Disney Internet Group: Network Services
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Michel Py
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:23 AM
To: Eric Kuhnke; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco HFR


Eric Kuhnke
Here it is, complete with OC-768 interface: 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5763/index.html

It's a BFR allright. I wonder how much OC-768 linecards will go for; if
it's consistent with 2OC192/POS-IR-SC some will be over a million list a
pop. And you thought 12816 gear was pricey?
Michel.





FW: IP Management

2004-05-25 Thread Kevin Welch
Title: FW: IP Management 






I am looking for an IP management solution and the cheaper the better. I noticed this subject has come up before with no real clear choice of softwares, I am trying to download and evaluate FreeIPDB, but the website seems defunct and I am unable to find a mirror (google shows no other download sites). Anyone have a copy of this software somewhere?

BTW, The website is FreeIPDB.org


-- Kevin





RE: FW: IP Management

2004-05-25 Thread Kevin Welch

Leave the website to make a liar out of me after I post to NANOG... I should
have checked one last time before sending the message.

-- Kevin

-Original Message-
From: John Forrister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 2:46 PM
To: Kevin Welch
Cc: John Forrister
Subject: Re: FW: IP Management

The site seems fine to me.  Direct download url would be:

http://www.freeipdb.org/download/FreeIPdb_latest.tar.gz

Just tried it from my personal account...

you might give that a try.

(disclaimer, I work for GX, but I'm not involved w/ this software
at all...)

-John

On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 02:49:06PM -0400, Kevin Welch wrote:
 
 I am looking for an IP management solution and the cheaper the better.  I
 noticed this subject has come up before with no real clear choice of
 softwares, I am trying to download and evaluate FreeIPDB, but the website
 seems defunct and I am unable to find a mirror (google shows no other
 download sites).   Anyone have a copy of this software somewhere?
 
 BTW, The website is FreeIPDB.org
 
 --  Kevin



Re: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Kevin Oberman

 Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:18:39 -0700
 From: Michel Py [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  This box is the HFR which, according to the San Jose Mercury,
  is short for Huge Fast Router. (Some reporter at the Merc
  probably still believes in the tooth fairy.)
 
 Same as the BFR, I heard a different interpretation of the word in the
 middle :-)
 
 
  As with many things, if you have to ask how much it costs
  before deciding to order it, you can't afford it.
 
 You don't get it, me thinks. For lots of people here, networks are not a
 toy funded by the taxpayer's money, they're a tool to make money and
 popular wisdom that I have found being practiced here says that indeed
 you _do_ ask how much it costs before you buy it. I don't buy a million
 bucks peace of equipment because it looks cool and I just got funding. I
 buy a million bucks piece of equipment because I want ROI on it, and if
 the ROI is 500k over 5 years I actually don't buy it.

No, you don't get it (though I'll admit the statement is hyperbolic). 

If you need OC-768 connectivity, there is only one place to go today. If
you really need it (and few do), you have the money to pay for it and a
business that does not make existing hardware appropriate.

I tend to suspect that the need for OC-768c is still rather limited.
Most providers are primarily aggregators of massive numbers of small
pipes. With almost no OC-768c Sonet gear in the field, my guess is that
this gear will be used mostly by a handful of carriers who can make
fiber available at minimal cost for dark fiber connectivity at major
aggregation points.

In the vast majority of the places where more bandwidth is needed, just
adding more OC-192s (or even OC-48s) is often a more economical answer,
especially if you own lots of excess fiber and/or WDM gear.

As the the comments about toys, yes, our network is taxpayer funded.
It is run for the USDOE with federal funding; no CA state funds are
involved. It is NOT a play network. It is a full-production high
availability network which provides the only access to a number of very
large and, in the view of some, very important facilities. It is an
unusual network in terms of the volume of point to point flows. Things
like fusion and high-energy physics generate simply astonishing amounts
of data. Terabytes are not uncommon. We don't need OC-768 today, but we
expect to need it in the next few years.
-- 
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Phone: +1 510 486-8634


NANOG 31: Found

2004-05-25 Thread Carol Wadsworth
Found:  RB-1 Authentication Token S/N 499000458
Claim at NANOG registration desk.


Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

2004-05-25 Thread Noel Montales

Hello!

Does anybody happen to know of any open source project working on a BGP
route optimizer like what Route Science or Internap or the likes have
commercially?

Just sounds like the sort of thing somebody would have though of, but I've
never seen any mention of it..


Regards,
Noel Montales
Waveform Technology LLC


RE: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

2004-05-25 Thread Drew Weaver

Not sure I'd trust something that was truly open source to handle something
so important. But I guess I trust nagios for my service availability so
shame on me ;-)

-Drew

-Original Message-
From: Noel Montales [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 3:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?


Hello!

Does anybody happen to know of any open source project working on a BGP
route optimizer like what Route Science or Internap or the likes have
commercially?

Just sounds like the sort of thing somebody would have though of, but I've
never seen any mention of it..


Regards,
Noel Montales
Waveform Technology LLC


RE: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

2004-05-25 Thread Matthew Kaufman

So you never run any production code that was compiled with gcc?

And, let me guess, your web servers all run IIS?

Matthew Kaufman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Drew Weaver
 Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:22 PM
 To: 'Noel Montales'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?
 
 
 
 Not sure I'd trust something that was truly open source to 
 handle something so important. But I guess I trust nagios for 
 my service availability so shame on me ;-)
 
 -Drew
 



Re: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

2004-05-25 Thread Jonathan M. Slivko
Doesn't Zebra also have something along those lines?
-- Jonathan
Drew Weaver wrote:
Not sure I'd trust something that was truly open source to handle something
so important. But I guess I trust nagios for my service availability so
shame on me ;-)
-Drew
-Original Message-
From: Noel Montales [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 3:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

Hello!
Does anybody happen to know of any open source project working on a BGP
route optimizer like what Route Science or Internap or the likes have
commercially?
Just sounds like the sort of thing somebody would have though of, but I've
never seen any mention of it..
Regards,
Noel Montales
Waveform Technology LLC
--
   Jonathan M. Slivko - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux: The Choice for the GNU Generation
 - http://www.linux.org/ -
Don't fear the penguin.
 .^.
 /V\
   /(   )\
^^-^^
  He's here to help.


Re: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Tue, 25 May 2004, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

 Interestingly the OC-768 card has a max transmit power of 5dB and is 
 short-range optics only.  As far as I know there are no 2R or 3R 
 regeneration solutions for long haul 40Gb/s circuits, nor are there any 
 DWDM systems that can do 8, 16 or 32 40Gb/s wavelengths.

It will be interesting to see if any future 40Gb/s systems will be able to
keep the 15-20dB dampening budget (60-80km fiber) that most current
placement of amplifier stations has been designed after (due to 10G
systems having that capability).

Dispersion and all the other problems will be quite interesting to see how 
they are solved. My guess is that multiple 10G will be the more economical 
path still for years to come.

The big question is also how this is going to affect price as all the over 
capacity built in 99-01 now is being used up and what kind of prices we'll 
see in the market when all the second hand gear is deployed and the only 
future path is to buy new.

One consolidation is that wide deployment of 10GE will hopefully bring
down the price of optics radically as volume go up.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

2004-05-25 Thread Tony Li

Well, that's pretty impressive.  Since you're not using Juniper or 
Cisco, whose
gear are you using?

Tony
On May 25, 2004, at 12:58 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
So you never run any production code that was compiled with gcc?
And, let me guess, your web servers all run IIS?
Matthew Kaufman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Drew Weaver
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:22 PM
To: 'Noel Montales'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

Not sure I'd trust something that was truly open source to
handle something so important. But I guess I trust nagios for
my service availability so shame on me ;-)
-Drew




Re: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

2004-05-25 Thread Christian Malo

procket ? :)

-chris


On Tue, 25 May 2004, Tony Li wrote:



 Well, that's pretty impressive.  Since you're not using Juniper or
 Cisco, whose
 gear are you using?

 Tony


 On May 25, 2004, at 12:58 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:

 
  So you never run any production code that was compiled with gcc?
 
  And, let me guess, your web servers all run IIS?
 
  Matthew Kaufman
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Drew Weaver
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:22 PM
  To: 'Noel Montales'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?
 
 
 
  Not sure I'd trust something that was truly open source to
  handle something so important. But I guess I trust nagios for
  my service availability so shame on me ;-)
 
  -Drew
 
 



RE: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Burton, Chris

I think this is more of an initial offering; at this speed there
have to be problems with dispersion over longer distances, this would
need to be solved as well as other issues before longer distances would
be permissible; plus I don't know of any regen/amplifier equipment that
would handle this that is on the market yet (I may be wrong).  There is
also the need of OC-768 speeds; I don't think the need quite there yet
(Even with the nice demonstration that Cisco gave during the Web cast);
OC-48 and OC-192s are still the leaders for this.

Chris Burton
Network Engineer
Walt Disney Internet Group: Network Services


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Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco HFR



Interestingly the OC-768 card has a max transmit power of 5dB and is 
short-range optics only.  As far as I know there are no 2R or 3R 
regeneration solutions for long haul 40Gb/s circuits, nor are there any 
DWDM systems that can do 8, 16 or 32 40Gb/s wavelengths.

Burton, Chris wrote:

 According to what the site says and from what I have heard they are 
 talking about a $450,000-$500,000 base price for the single shelf unit

 and the OC768 Cards will probably be quite expensive until one of the 
 other companies (Juniper or Avici) comes out with something 
 competitive.
 
 Chris Burton
 Network Engineer
 Walt Disney Internet Group: Network Services
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
 Of Michel Py
 Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:23 AM
 To: Eric Kuhnke; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Cisco HFR
 
 
 
 
Eric Kuhnke
Here it is, complete with OC-768 interface:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5763/index.html
 
 
 It's a BFR allright. I wonder how much OC-768 linecards will go for; 
 if it's consistent with 2OC192/POS-IR-SC some will be over a million 
 list a pop. And you thought 12816 gear was pricey?
 
 Michel.
 
 
 
 



Re: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

2004-05-25 Thread Tony Li

No, that's compiled with gcc too.  ;-)
Tony
On May 25, 2004, at 2:02 PM, Christian Malo wrote:
procket ? :)
-chris
On Tue, 25 May 2004, Tony Li wrote:

Well, that's pretty impressive.  Since you're not using Juniper or
Cisco, whose
gear are you using?
Tony
On May 25, 2004, at 12:58 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
So you never run any production code that was compiled with gcc?
And, let me guess, your web servers all run IIS?
Matthew Kaufman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Drew Weaver
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:22 PM
To: 'Noel Montales'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

Not sure I'd trust something that was truly open source to
handle something so important. But I guess I trust nagios for
my service availability so shame on me ;-)
-Drew






RE: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

2004-05-25 Thread Burton, Chris

I thought Zebra/Quagga just implemented the actual routing
daemons/processes, not any route optimization other then optimization
that can be had by manual intervention; nothing on the lines of Route
Science or the Cisco OER.

Chris Burton
Network Engineer
Walt Disney Internet Group: Network Services


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Jonathan M. Slivko
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:58 PM
To: Drew Weaver
Cc: 'Noel Montales'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?



Doesn't Zebra also have something along those lines?
-- Jonathan

Drew Weaver wrote:

 Not sure I'd trust something that was truly open source to handle 
 something so important. But I guess I trust nagios for my service 
 availability so shame on me ;-)
 
 -Drew
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Noel Montales [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 3:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?
 
 
 Hello!
 
 Does anybody happen to know of any open source project working on a 
 BGP route optimizer like what Route Science or Internap or the likes 
 have commercially?
 
 Just sounds like the sort of thing somebody would have though of, but 
 I've never seen any mention of it..
 
 
 Regards,
 Noel Montales
 Waveform Technology LLC
 

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Re: Roadrunner network human contact?

2004-05-25 Thread Alan Sparks

Thanks to all that replied.  I have made contact and resolutions
are at hand, I understand.
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Quris, Inc. (720) 836-2058



Re: FW: IP Management

2004-05-25 Thread Michael Moscovitch




The website works ok for me. I am on the mailing list, but
I haven't heard of any news or new versions in a while, but I think its
still alive.
The last version appears to be:

http://www.freeipdb.org/download/FreeIPdb-0_2-RC2.tar.gz


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On Tue, 25 May 2004, Kevin Welch wrote:


 I am looking for an IP management solution and the cheaper the better.  I
 noticed this subject has come up before with no real clear choice of
 softwares, I am trying to download and evaluate FreeIPDB, but the website
 seems defunct and I am unable to find a mirror (google shows no other
 download sites).   Anyone have a copy of this software somewhere?

 BTW, The website is FreeIPDB.org

 --  Kevin



WAN accelerator recommendations

2004-05-25 Thread Matt Bazan

Hello,
I'm looking for advice and recommendations on WAN (T1 speeds)
accelerator devices.  I've seen the literature on the offerings from
Peribit, NetCelera and Packeteer and am looking for some real-world
feedback.  Can anyone provide me with their experiences using these
products or similar?  Thanks,

  Matt


Re: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Deepak Jain

Eric Kuhnke wrote:
Here it is, complete with OC-768 interface:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5763/index.html
In the old days, every major provider would already be talking about how 
they have ordered 200 of these for every major market for redundant 
deployment -- and are just waiting on Cisco to deliver them the gear.

Ahhh... nostalgia.
DJ



Re: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Mark Prior
Leo Bicknell wrote:
I don't think Reuters was impressed:
From http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/nm/20040525/tc_nm/tech_cisco_router_dc_2
] Routers, which look like pizza boxes piled atop each other, are one of
] the most boring pieces of equipment to look at, but probably the most
] crucial as they are used to direct information and data on a network.
You can't go past the on/off switches on our Prockets. No boring switch 
gear there :-)

Mark.


Re: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

2004-05-25 Thread Curtis Maurand

Perl is opensource as is Sendmail, Postfix, Bind, DHCPD, Tomcat, Apache, 
cron, tar, gzip, dump, ethereal, ad infinitim.

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Curtis Maurand
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On Tue, 25 May 2004, Tony Li wrote:

Well, that's pretty impressive.  Since you're not using Juniper or Cisco, 
whose
gear are you using?

Tony
On May 25, 2004, at 12:58 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
So you never run any production code that was compiled with gcc?
And, let me guess, your web servers all run IIS?
Matthew Kaufman
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Drew Weaver
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:22 PM
To: 'Noel Montales'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

Not sure I'd trust something that was truly open source to
handle something so important. But I guess I trust nagios for
my service availability so shame on me ;-)
-Drew




Re: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Peter Lothberg

 Interestingly the OC-768 card has a max transmit power of 5dB and is 
 short-range optics only.  

The 300-pin-MSA for OC768 has a SR spec of TX 0..+3dBm, RX min -5dBm. 
Dispersion is max 40ps/nm. 

 As far as I know there are no 2R or 3R 
 regeneration solutions for long haul 40Gb/s circuits, nor are there any 
 DWDM systems that can do 8, 16 or 32 40Gb/s wavelengths.

Incorrect. There are transponders that put a 40G signal in a 10G DWDM
optical system. (You have to move a step up from morse code to make the 
side-bands fit..) And they atleast run in 80 chanel systems.

-P


Re: OT: Avi Freeman at the WSOP

2004-05-25 Thread J.D. Falk

This may also be off-topic, but what's with the rumours I heard
of Avi being kicked out of the conference?  I'm certain there 
must be more to the story than that, but since Avi has been such
a strong positive influence on the NANOG community for so long,
I gotta ask

-- 
J.D. Falk be crazy dumbsaint of the mind
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   -- Jack Kerouac


Re: Open Source BGP Route Optimization?

2004-05-25 Thread Paul Vixie

 Does anybody happen to know of any open source project working on a BGP
 route optimizer like what Route Science or Internap or the likes have
 commercially?

five minutes in google turned up the following:

http://www.inlab.de/balance.html (this is a tcp proxy, not a bgp thing)
http://www.stanford.edu/~schemers/docs/lbnamed/lbnamed.html (Stupid DNS Tricks)
http://www.backhand.org/mod_backhand/ (an apache module for redirection)
http://www.supersparrow.org/ (uses but doesn't generate bgp information)
http://www.bgpdns.org/ (Stupid DNS Tricks again, but based on bgp data)

probably a whole hour spent on such research would turn up even more.
-- 
Paul Vixie


Re: Cisco HFR

2004-05-25 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Tue, 25 May 2004, Peter Lothberg wrote:

 Incorrect. There are transponders that put a 40G signal in a 10G DWDM
 optical system. (You have to move a step up from morse code to make the 
 side-bands fit..) And they atleast run in 80 chanel systems.

What is the range of this, how often do you need to amplify and regen the 
40G signal compared to 10G? Can 10G optical amplifiers be used?

-- 
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]