Re: Fw: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread albertpublic

I was talking more along the lines of disclosing personal information
without
permission

Since when was re-pasting entries from the phonebook considered illegal?

 slander is another one as well...

I suggest you read a legal dictionary, and turn to the definitions of
slander and libel.  One 
involves speech, the other involves print.  And it's never slander or
libel if it's all factually 
accurate.  Unless, of course, you're disputing the accuracy of the phone
book.



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Re: Fw: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 00:36:00 EST, Joshua Brady said:
 I was talking more along the lines of disclosing personal information without
 permission, slander is another one as well...

I'm coming up empty-handed on statutes for the disclosure issue.  Asking around
in the office found lots of rules that we as a university have to comply with
(mostly having to do with the information's status as student records), and
businesses often have privacy requirements (see HIPPA and similar, and
California has it's very recent laws regarding notification of information
disclosure due to hacking incidents), but I'm not finding any good cites for
Joe User discloses Jim Random's info.

Tacky? Yes.  Illegal? I'll wait to hear a citation (federal would be somewhere
in USC or CFR, state laws would be wherever your state keeps them - but making
them apply to an Internet incident might be tricky...)



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Fw: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-14 Thread Joshua Brady


- Original Message - 
From: Joshua Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG


 rant
 
  Greg,
 
  Let me spell it out crystal clear so you can understand.  Are you, or
  are you not, the Gregory
  Taylor referenced in the URL's I sent below?
 
 Even if he is, what you did and said was slanderous, beyond a normal NANOG
 flamewar.
 
  Albert P.
  (signing his real name so Susan won't remove him from the list)
 
 Oh please do Susan what he did was already illegal.
 
 
 Albert P.
 
 /rant
 
 Can you take this off-list so we don't have to hear a play school convo?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Josh
 




Re: Fw: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-14 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:48:37 EST, Joshua Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]  said:
 Even if he is, what you did and said was slanderous, beyond a normal NANOG
 flamewar.

 Oh please do Susan what he did was already illegal.

Contrary to the list charter, quite probably.

Illegal?  Unclear.  It's bordering on the whole slander/libel thing, but
in general, truth is an absolute defense against a slander or libel charge.

What the actual truth of the matter is, I neither know, nor have any
real desire to investigate.


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Re: Fw: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-14 Thread Joshua Brady


I was talking more along the lines of disclosing personal information without
permission, slander is another one as well...

Josh
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG