RE: GigEth regenerators

2002-06-13 Thread Daniska Tomas


a brief summary of responses up to now:

- there are several vendors making some kind of sx-to-zx gbe converters (they call it 
gbe extenders), which gives an equivalent of a device with a zx gbic. these vendors 
include jdsu, luxn, extreme etc.

- two companies were found making gbe optical regenerators - imcnetworks and transmode

- other solution is to try with edfa



mikael: which exact gbic did you use?

i was comparing cisco-reselled gbics and their cwdm gbics seem to be more than 10dB 
better on power budget... anybody tried this in real life?


thanks again

--
 
Tomas Daniska
systems engineer
Tronet Computer Networks
Plynarenska 5, 829 75 Bratislava, Slovakia
tel: +421 2 58224111, fax: +421 2 58224199
 
A transistor protected by a fast-acting fuse will protect the fuse by blowing first.



 -Original Message-
 From: Mikael Abrahamsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 12. júna 2002 17:48
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: GigEth regenerators
 
 
 
 On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Daniska Tomas wrote:
 
  but for gigeth in this case - we need to connect two sites 
 about 200km
  apart over dark fiber
 
 Check out the 7020 from Transmode 
 http://www.transmode.se/products/sing_dual.htm
 
 Btw, my personal best so far is 150km over dark fiber using a 
 extra long 
 haul GBIC, 32dB loss over the fiber and it worked perfectly. 
 Only tested 
 it for 10 minutes, but there were no CRC errors during that time.
 
 +4dB output from the GGBIC, now we have to worry to not look into the 
 laser :)
 
 -- 
 Mikael Abrahamssonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 



Re: GigEth regenerators

2002-06-13 Thread Paul Vixie


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniska Tomas) writes:

 a brief summary of responses up to now:

in response to my earlier reply on this topic, i was also pointed at

http://www.nbase-xyplex.com/products.html

which indeed shows how to do 65Km regen points.  pretty cool other stuff too.



RE: GigEth regenerators

2002-06-13 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson


On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Daniska Tomas wrote:

 mikael: which exact gbic did you use?

The Finisar FTR1619-55.

My experiense is that buying directly from the manufacturer is taking a 
chance, it's much cheaper, but you get great variance in quality and you 
should really do testing on the gbics, or be prepared to swap gbics in 
case you get problems.

Buying from the switch vendor ensures that you do not get finger-pointing 
and they do test the gbics more than the manufacturer.
 
-- 
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




GigEth regenerators

2002-06-12 Thread Daniska Tomas


hi folks,


is anybody aware of an optical long-haul gigabit ethernet regenerator
box? anything like 

Cisco Optical Regenerator (COR) OC-48 STM-16 Bi-directional Regenerator
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/oc48__l2.htm

but for gigeth in this case - we need to connect two sites about 200km
apart over dark fiber


thanks

--
 
Tomas Daniska
systems engineer
Tronet Computer Networks
Plynarenska 5, 829 75 Bratislava, Slovakia
tel: +421 2 58224111, fax: +421 2 58224199
 
A transistor protected by a fast-acting fuse will protect the fuse by
blowing first.




Re: GigEth regenerators

2002-06-12 Thread Paul Vixie


 is anybody aware of an optical long-haul gigabit ethernet regenerator
 box? anything like=20
 
 Cisco Optical Regenerator (COR) OC-48 STM-16 Bi-directional Regenerator
 http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/oc48__l2.htm
 
 but for gigeth in this case - we need to connect two sites about 200km
 apart over dark fiber

I don't know if you can use more than one of these on a path, but

http://www.extremenetworks.com/products/datasheets/gbx.asp

...might be something like what you want for this.  Seems very similar to...

http://www.jdsu.com/site/images/products/pdf/Model1280GbX_092101.pdf

...which Pac*Bell SBC is using for its new GigaMan product.
-- 
Paul Vixie



Re: GigEth regenerators

2002-06-12 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson


On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Daniska Tomas wrote:

 but for gigeth in this case - we need to connect two sites about 200km
 apart over dark fiber

Check out the 7020 from Transmode 
http://www.transmode.se/products/sing_dual.htm

Btw, my personal best so far is 150km over dark fiber using a extra long 
haul GBIC, 32dB loss over the fiber and it worked perfectly. Only tested 
it for 10 minutes, but there were no CRC errors during that time.

+4dB output from the GGBIC, now we have to worry to not look into the 
laser :)

-- 
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]