Re: wanted: offshore hosting

2007-10-11 Thread Hex Star
On 10/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all.

 Last time I asked for a hosting place, I ended up going with
 LayeredTech, but I can give you a list of options if you like.

 So, I'd like to rent a box somewhere outside of the US, for geographic
 redundancy and other reasons.

 Must be dedicated hosting, relatively cheap bandwidth, lots of space
 (500GB?), allow us to run Debian Linux, take US credit cards.  No tech
 support other than rebooting the box needed.

 I'd prefer if they spoke English, but weren't in the UK or US.  I
 could deal with it if they only spoke Spanish.  A reputable Brazilian
 shop would be nice, but I'm pretty open to any suggestions.

 Does anyone have good experience with any outfits that match this
 description?




Are you seeking this for legal intentions or...? As I doubt this list
condones the seeking of hosting for illegal purposes


Re: wanted: offshore hosting

2007-10-11 Thread Peter Dambier


That depends on your legislation:

There are a lot of things forbidden in the US but allowed in Europe
as well as a lot of things allowed in the US but prohibited in Europe.

Then there are a lot of misunderstangs like accidently or colaterally
censoring. I remeber a physicist beeing banned in germany who could
have saved lives and who could have prevented a lot of people from
beeing put into lunatic asylums.

Or maybe he is simply afraid of google. After all you can be sent to
prison if your judge does not know how google works but your enemy does.

A relatively good place seems to be Québec
 - they dont know english ...
A really good place seems to be The Netherlands
 - they dont even know they dont know english.

They both are save havens as long as your activity as not criminal.

Another good place seems to be Burma. Not even google can look
inside there. Sorry that is a bad one.

Even France can be a save place. E.g. I had to leave germany wirh

http://iason.site.voila.fr

because IASON is considered a terrorist tool in germany. The
interesting law in germany is StGB 202c.

Kind regards
Peter and Karin


Hex Star wrote:



On 10/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello all.

Last time I asked for a hosting place, I ended up going with
LayeredTech, but I can give you a list of options if you like.

So, I'd like to rent a box somewhere outside of the US, for geographic
redundancy and other reasons.

Must be dedicated hosting, relatively cheap bandwidth, lots of space
(500GB?), allow us to run Debian Linux, take US credit cards.  No tech
support other than rebooting the box needed.

I'd prefer if they spoke English, but weren't in the UK or US.  I
could deal with it if they only spoke Spanish.  A reputable Brazilian
shop would be nice, but I'm pretty open to any suggestions.

Does anyone have good experience with any outfits that match this
description?




Are you seeking this for legal intentions or...? As I doubt this list 
condones the seeking of hosting for illegal purposes



--
Peter and Karin Dambier
Cesidian Root - Radice Cesidiana
Rimbacher Strasse 16
D-69509 Moerlenbach-Bonsweiher
+49(6209)795-816 (Telekom)
+49(6252)750-308 (VoIP: sipgate.de)
mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://iason.site.voila.fr/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/iason/
http://www.cesidianroot.com/



RE: wanted: offshore hosting

2007-10-10 Thread Jamie Bowden

Haven't you been paying attention?  There's a whole thread dedicated to
why Australia's horridly expensive.

Jamie Bowden
-- 
It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold
Hunter S Tolkien Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur
Iain Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
S. Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:30 PM
To: Joe Abley
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: wanted: offshore hosting


Uh, Australia?

Joe Abley wroteth on 10/9/2007 1:09 PM:
 
 
 On 9-Oct-2007, at 1553, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 So, I'd like to rent a box somewhere outside of the US, for
geographic
 redundancy and other reasons.
 
 [...]
 
 I'd prefer if they spoke English, but weren't in the UK or US.  I
 could deal with it if they only spoke Spanish.
 
 Lots of options in Canada :-) Or is that not far away enough for you?
 
 
 Joe
 
 
 


Re: wanted: offshore hosting

2007-10-10 Thread Adrian Chadd

On Wed, Oct 10, 2007, Jamie Bowden wrote:
 
 Haven't you been paying attention?  There's a whole thread dedicated to
 why Australia's horridly expensive.

Its only ~ $300 a megabit. If you only require bugger all traffic constant
(like say, backup DNS for some small sites) then its not -that- expensive
for international transit.



Adrian



RE: wanted: offshore hosting

2007-10-10 Thread Jamie Bowden

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Chadd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:07 AM
To: Jamie Bowden
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: wanted: offshore hosting

On Wed, Oct 10, 2007, Jamie Bowden wrote:
 
 Haven't you been paying attention?  There's a whole thread dedicated
to
 why Australia's horridly expensive.

Its only ~ $300 a megabit. If you only require bugger all traffic
constant
(like say, backup DNS for some small sites) then its not -that-
expensive
for international transit.


-

That was mostly in jest Adrian.  Oh, an noting what you said in another
post...you know you have friends who'd be happy to have you here in the
eastern US (just ask Andrew...we keep trying to talk him into coming
back for another visit), and I suspect you made good connections when
you spent that time in the Netherlands a few years back.

Jamie Bowden
-- 
It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold
Hunter S Tolkien Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur
Iain Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: wanted: offshore hosting

2007-10-09 Thread Joe Abley



On 9-Oct-2007, at 1553, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So, I'd like to rent a box somewhere outside of the US, for geographic
redundancy and other reasons.


[...]


I'd prefer if they spoke English, but weren't in the UK or US.  I
could deal with it if they only spoke Spanish.


Lots of options in Canada :-) Or is that not far away enough for you?


Joe



Re: wanted: offshore hosting

2007-10-09 Thread S. Ryan


Uh, Australia?

Joe Abley wroteth on 10/9/2007 1:09 PM:



On 9-Oct-2007, at 1553, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So, I'd like to rent a box somewhere outside of the US, for geographic
redundancy and other reasons.


[...]


I'd prefer if they spoke English, but weren't in the UK or US.  I
could deal with it if they only spoke Spanish.


Lots of options in Canada :-) Or is that not far away enough for you?


Joe





kill thread (Re: wanted: offshore hosting)

2007-10-09 Thread Alex Pilosov

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all.
 
 Last time I asked for a hosting place, I ended up going with
 LayeredTech, but I can give you a list of options if you like.
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