Re: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes

2008-07-09 Thread dave miller
thanks michael!
dave

2008/7/8 Michael Szpakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 it made *me* laugh :)
 I like your drawing style  you hit the creepiness of the new toryism rather 
 well. It's miles better than the ones they have in the Guardian when Steve 
 Bell isn't there...
 michael


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 From: dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes
 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
 netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
 Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 8:13 PM
 I made this today:
 http://davemiller.org/comix/rc_08_07_08.gif

 would it make a decent series? It's very London-centric
 I realise
 thanks, dave
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[NetBehaviour] Check Yourself for Genetic Abnormalities.

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Check Yourself for Genetic Abnormalities

 From Wired How-To Wiki

Nearly every day, somebody in the research community claims to have 
found a genetic marker associated with some sort of health condition. If 
you are curious and want to check yourself for those inherited traits, 
there are several options at your disposal. Some are easy, others are 
quite hard, but none of them are cheap.

* 1 Option 1: Visit a Genetic Counselor
* 2 Option 2: Scan Your Whole Genome
* 3 Option 3: Perform Lab Tests at Home
o 3.1 What You'll Need
o 3.2 Why do it the hard way?
o 3.3 Step 1: Swab some cells from your cheek
o 3.4 Step 2: Extract DNA from those cells
o 3.5 Step 3: Design and Order PCR primers and controls
o 3.6 Step 4: Copy the DNA with the PCR reaction
o 3.7 Step 5: Sequence the amplified genetic material


more...
http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Check_Yourself_for_Genetic_Abnormalities
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[NetBehaviour] Roof and The Accidental Artist Announcement

2008-07-09 Thread Alan Sondheim


Announcement: That if you haven't been to the Exhibition, The Accidental 
Artist, at Second Life, do so now! For once the materials have been pushed to 
the limit; what you see, experience, could not exist otherwise, i.e. in the 
physical world; these objects are untoward, wayward, and amazing; this is the 
result of complex building upon simple borrowed scripts and real- world 
hypnagogic imagery.

For me this is the culmination of video, image, sound, performance, having 
brought into the world something that remains incoherently out of it.

Again, here are instructions:

This exhibit is being presented in the networked environment Second Life on 
the Odyssey simulator. To view this work you must have a Second Life account 
and avatar, which is free of charge and takes about 30 minutes to set up and 
learn the basic functionality. To set up an account, go here: 
http://secondlife.com/

Once you are logged into Second Life, click this link 
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Odyssey/48/12/22 in your web browser. and the 
Second Life client will teleport your avatar to the location of the exhibit. 
Use the arrow keys on your keyboard to navigate your avatar through the exhibit 
and be sure to press play on both the audio and video buttons located on the 
lower right of your Second Life client. (Sugar Seville)

There are many ways to see the exhibition: Turn sound on and off, turn video on 
and off, open up parameters and set the rendering to different positions (glow 
for example appears only in some of them), don't worry about frame-rate, you 
can always go back to low resolution high speed for that. Walk or fly through 
the space to the extent you can. Enter into the emission areas. Separate the 
camera from the avatar (view camera controls) and head beneath the floor into 
the continuation of the show in the ocean shoals.

This is Ken Kesey meets Jacques Lacan; Valeska Gert meets Anita Berber; Walter 
Benjamin meets Salvador Dali; Kristeva meets Delaney; Ballard meets 
Chasseguet-Smirgel; Lingis meets Buddha; Flower Ornament Sutra meets Yamataka; 
Nikuko meets Julu; interior meets exterior; 4 meets 3; this is always already 
future anterior; defuge raised to incandescence; vision to touch; touch to 
vision.

If you have difficulty, write me and I'll try and answer. Second Life is easy 
to install; it reads your hardware and configures automatically in relation to 
it.

Next week: Performances on Wednesday, Sandy Baldwin and myself

Enjoy!


Now: The Different Roof


Julu Twine dances around while God's busy redoing the roof.
They they take a look at prim depth.
Julu's happy that the thing spews different.
God redoes the outdoor prim with glow and texture of breasts.
Julu thinks the whole thing is over-ripe.
God thinks it's fecund.
Julu thinks God's fecund.
There's no end to it.


The ringing
http://www.alansondheim.org/ringing1.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/ringing2.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/ringing3.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/ringing4.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/ringing5.jpg

http://www.alansondheim.org/depth01.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/depth02.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/depth03.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/depth04.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/depth05.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/depth06.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/depth07.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/depth08.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/depth09.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/depth10.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/depth11.jpg

There's no end to the ringing.

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Friending The Aesthetic

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Hi Rob,

Can people join these actual pages and share their colours?

marc


 http://robmyers.org/weblog/2008/07/08/friending-the-aesthetic/

 Friend the aesthetic on MySpace.

 Like blue? Friend it here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_blue

 Like red? Friend it here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_red

 Like yellow? Friend it here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_yellow

 Like squares? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_square

 Like circles? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_circle

 Like triangles? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_triangle

 Like stripes? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_stripes

 Like checks (or cheques)? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_checks

 Like dots (or spots)? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_dots

 Like the fibonacci sequence? Friend it here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_fibonacci

 Like the golden section? Friend it here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_golden

 Like grids? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_grid

 - Rob.
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[NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread Kev Flanagan
Hey,

I want to set up a live video stream so that the scene/subject can be
represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a begginer on this, can
anyone advise me on where to start?

-- 
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Research Blog - http://www.kevflanagan.wordpress.com
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Friending The Aesthetic

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Aha!

OK - Thanks for that...

marc
 People can add them as MySpace friends, and people can add comments to
 the pages which could include colour-related stuff.

 - Rob.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hi Rob,

 Can people join these actual pages and share their colours?

 marc


 
 http://robmyers.org/weblog/2008/07/08/friending-the-aesthetic/

 Friend the aesthetic on MySpace.

 Like blue? Friend it here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_blue

 Like red? Friend it here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_red

 Like yellow? Friend it here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_yellow

 Like squares? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_square

 Like circles? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_circle

 Like triangles? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_triangle

 Like stripes? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_stripes

 Like checks (or cheques)? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_checks

 Like dots (or spots)? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_dots

 Like the fibonacci sequence? Friend it here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_fibonacci

 Like the golden section? Friend it here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_golden

 Like grids? Friend them here:

 http://myspace.com/aesthetic_grid

 - Rob.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Hi Kevin,

What operating system will you be using?

marc
 Hey,

 I want to set up a live video stream so that the scene/subject can be 
 represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a begginer on this, can 
 anyone advise me on where to start?

 -- 
 Kevin Flanagan

 Research Blog - http://www.kevflanagan.wordpress.com
 Video Blog - http://www.kevflanaganvideoartblog.wordpress.com
 Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevflanagan
 

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Roof and The Accidental Artist Announcement

2008-07-09 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Announcement: That if you haven't been to the Exhibition, The Accidental
 Artist, at Second Life, do so now! For once the materials have been pushed to
 the limit; what you see, experience, could not exist otherwise, i.e. in the
 physical world; these objects are untoward, wayward, and amazing; this is the
 result of complex building upon simple borrowed scripts and real- world
 hypnagogic imagery.

I visited this. It was amazing. It's the best virtual environment I've
seen since Tracey Matthieson's VRML work in the late 90s (I'm biased
there though ;-) ).

If you aren't a member of Second Life, it's worth getting a free
membership to see this.

One of the things that struck me is Second Life lacks the feeling that
VRML gave you and that using game engines (like Igloo do) gives you
that the environment you are in is a complete world or universe . This
can be very important for framing the experience of art. Second Life
is obviously meant to be a single-world social setting, and I found
the knowledge that I could drift out of the gallery and into a mall
framed the experience differently from the way that knowledge that I
could drift out into the infinite blackness outside the world would
have. I think that OpenSim-based art projects will restore this.

- Rob.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Roof and The Accidental Artist Announcement

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Hi Rob,

I usually hate SL, but your recommendation has convinced me that I 
should pay ' The Accidental Artist' a visit...

marc

  On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Alan Sondheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  Announcement: That if you haven't been to the Exhibition, The Accidental
  Artist, at Second Life, do so now! For once the materials have been 
pushed to
  the limit; what you see, experience, could not exist otherwise, i.e. 
in the
  physical world; these objects are untoward, wayward, and amazing; 
this is the
  result of complex building upon simple borrowed scripts and real- world
  hypnagogic imagery.
 
  I visited this. It was amazing. It's the best virtual environment I've
  seen since Tracey Matthieson's VRML work in the late 90s (I'm biased
  there though ;-) ).
 
  If you aren't a member of Second Life, it's worth getting a free
  membership to see this.
 
  One of the things that struck me is Second Life lacks the feeling that
  VRML gave you and that using game engines (like Igloo do) gives you
  that the environment you are in is a complete world or universe . This
  can be very important for framing the experience of art. Second Life
  is obviously meant to be a single-world social setting, and I found
  the knowledge that I could drift out of the gallery and into a mall
  framed the experience differently from the way that knowledge that I
  could drift out into the infinite blackness outside the world would
  have. I think that OpenSim-based art projects will restore this.
 
  - Rob.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread ricardo ruiz
estudiolivre.org, once you log into it, you can create a stream
channel to yourself. it is based on icecast2. i would suggest you to
use darksnow for audio stream and theorur for video stream. it is also
possible to use VLC as streamer, but you will still need the server.
Jaromil's dyne:bolic has also a good tool for streaming, MuSe.

best,
r

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Kevin,

 What operating system will you be using?

 marc
 Hey,

 I want to set up a live video stream so that the scene/subject can be
 represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a begginer on this, can
 anyone advise me on where to start?

 --
 Kevin Flanagan

 Research Blog - http://www.kevflanagan.wordpress.com
 Video Blog - http://www.kevflanaganvideoartblog.wordpress.com
 Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevflanagan
 

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Hi Ricardo,

Yes, VLC  dyne:bolic.

I have not used estudiolivre.org yet, so thanks for that I will also 
explore this one :-)

marc


 
  estudiolivre.org, once you log into it, you can create a stream
  channel to yourself. it is based on icecast2. i would suggest you to
  use darksnow for audio stream and theorur for video stream. it is also
  possible to use VLC as streamer, but you will still need the server.
  Jaromil's dyne:bolic has also a good tool for streaming, MuSe.
 
  best,
  r
 
  On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:48 AM, marc garrett
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Kevin,
 
  What operating system will you be using?
 
  marc
  Hey,
 
  I want to set up a live video stream so that the scene/subject can be
  represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a begginer on this, can
  anyone advise me on where to start?
 
  --
  Kevin Flanagan
 
  Research Blog - http://www.kevflanagan.wordpress.com
  Video Blog - http://www.kevflanaganvideoartblog.wordpress.com
  Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevflanagan
  

 
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Re: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes

2008-07-09 Thread dave miller
hi marc

Thanks for having a look. I'm exploring a few different comic ideas at
the moment, and if one pops out that seems to work, I'll try to keep
it going regularly. You're right, there is a sort of journalistic
flavour to my work, I think I need to recognise this more. I'll keep
you posted on new installments!

cheers, dave

2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Dave,

 Yes, it made me titter. It is interesting how much of your work seems to
 maintain a flavour of newspaper journalism, somehow.

 Are these strips a regular, or occasional?

 marc


 thanks michael!
 dave

 2008/7/8 Michael Szpakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 it made *me* laugh :)
 I like your drawing style  you hit the creepiness of the new toryism 
 rather well. It's miles better than the ones they have in the Guardian when 
 Steve Bell isn't there...
 michael


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 From: dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes
 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
 netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
 Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 8:13 PM
 I made this today:
 http://davemiller.org/comix/rc_08_07_08.gif

 would it make a decent series? It's very London-centric
 I realise
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Re: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes

2008-07-09 Thread dave miller
Hi marc

I'm going to have a go - it needs to be a regular thing I agree, as it
would have much more impact than a one-off. I could probably manage
one per week!

cheers, dave

2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Dave,

 I was wondering if there was a more regular pattern of work whether we
 could look forward to a weekly or bi-weekly edition?

 marc
 hi marc

 Thanks for having a look. I'm exploring a few different comic ideas at
 the moment, and if one pops out that seems to work, I'll try to keep
 it going regularly. You're right, there is a sort of journalistic
 flavour to my work, I think I need to recognise this more. I'll keep
 you posted on new installments!

 cheers, dave

 2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi Dave,

 Yes, it made me titter. It is interesting how much of your work seems to
 maintain a flavour of newspaper journalism, somehow.

 Are these strips a regular, or occasional?

 marc



 thanks michael!
 dave

 2008/7/8 Michael Szpakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 it made *me* laugh :)
 I like your drawing style  you hit the creepiness of the new toryism 
 rather well. It's miles better than the ones they have in the Guardian 
 when Steve Bell isn't there...
 michael


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 From: dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes
 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
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 Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 8:13 PM
 I made this today:
 http://davemiller.org/comix/rc_08_07_08.gif

 would it make a decent series? It's very London-centric
 I realise
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Hi Kev,

OK - I am not sure if you read Ricardo's post?

I use all 3 operating systems, but currently deeply involved with 
Linux/Ubuntu.

I think that Ricardo's suggestions are excellent, and can be also used 
on Windows XP.

marc
 Hi Marc,

 Im using Windows XP at the moment.

 Kev


  

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 What operating system will you be using?

 marc
  Hey,
 
  I want to set up a live video stream so that the scene/subject
 can be
  represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a begginer on
 this, can
  anyone advise me on where to start?
 
  --
  Kevin Flanagan
 
  Research Blog - http://www.kevflanagan.wordpress.com
  Video Blog - http://www.kevflanaganvideoartblog.wordpress.com
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread ricardo ruiz
hi kev

it is possible to do with ruindow$:
- you can use VLC

or dyne:bolic - just restart your computer with dyne: cd on its driver
and dyne:linux will be up and running

:)

best
r

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Kev,

 OK - I am not sure if you read Ricardo's post?

 I use all 3 operating systems, but currently deeply involved with
 Linux/Ubuntu.

 I think that Ricardo's suggestions are excellent, and can be also used
 on Windows XP.

 marc
 Hi Marc,

 Im using Windows XP at the moment.

 Kev




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 What operating system will you be using?

 marc
  Hey,
 
  I want to set up a live video stream so that the scene/subject
 can be
  represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a begginer on
 this, can
  anyone advise me on where to start?
 
  --
  Kevin Flanagan
 
  Research Blog - http://www.kevflanagan.wordpress.com
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread ricardo ruiz
hi marc

i've been using pure:dyne last year on a hp nx6120, but instead of
booting from CD, i've docked it on my HD. my other system was a
slackware 10.2. but i couldn't use all the patches from pdp

we are having good experiences with puredata on ubuntu 7.10 and the
extended package from puredata.org.

in ubuntu 8.04 i have some problems to install the extended package
from the site, but i could manage to install trought repositories from
ubuntu and some packages compiled (a good one to compile some patches
is navalha, from glerm soares)

we tried puredata on fedora 8 some months ago, but the package that
has on puredata website doesn't bring all the patches as well,
specially pdp

well, puredata on a salckware12 is working really fine, and there is
one friend of ours with great results on a debian...

:)

best from here,

r

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:47 AM, marc garrett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Ricardo,

 What's your opinion on pure dine?

 marc
 hi kev

 it is possible to do with ruindow$:
 - you can use VLC

 or dyne:bolic - just restart your computer with dyne: cd on its driver
 and dyne:linux will be up and running

 :)

 best
 r

 On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:39 AM, marc garrett
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Kev,

 OK - I am not sure if you read Ricardo's post?

 I use all 3 operating systems, but currently deeply involved with
 Linux/Ubuntu.

 I think that Ricardo's suggestions are excellent, and can be also used
 on Windows XP.

 marc

 Hi Marc,

 Im using Windows XP at the moment.

 Kev




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 wrote:

 Hi Kevin,

 What operating system will you be using?

 marc
  Hey,
 
  I want to set up a live video stream so that the scene/subject
 can be
  represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a begginer on
 this, can
  anyone advise me on where to start?
 
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread Kev Flanagan
Hi Ricardo,

Thanks for your suggestion, am looking at the web site at the moment but its
mostly in Spanish and Im finding it a bit difficult, is there some software
that I download, does this work with VLC somehow?

ha ha ruindozz,
its breaking my heart, every now and then Ive been getting random news and
adverts audio clips for the past 2 weeks I have 3 or 4 antivirus and anti
spyware packages running and nothings cleared it.

I can install Ubuntu, I just got a new laptop and Ive been meaning to do so.
I'll also try out dyne.

Thanks again

Kev



On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:39 PM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi Kev,

 OK - I am not sure if you read Ricardo's post?

 I use all 3 operating systems, but currently deeply involved with
 Linux/Ubuntu.

 I think that Ricardo's suggestions are excellent, and can be also used
 on Windows XP.

 marc
  Hi Marc,
 
  Im using Windows XP at the moment.
 
  Kev
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, marc garrett
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  Hi Kevin,
 
  What operating system will you be using?
 
  marc
   Hey,
  
   I want to set up a live video stream so that the scene/subject
  can be
   represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a begginer on
  this, can
   anyone advise me on where to start?
  
   --
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   Research Blog - http://www.kevflanagan.wordpress.com
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Hi Ricardo,

Ruth  I am going to have a go at pure:dyne, as part of a residency at 
Access Space n a couple of months time http://access-space.org. In fact, 
I have already begun playing with it...

 in ubuntu 8.04 i have some problems to install the extended package
 from the site, but i could manage to install trought repositories from
 ubuntu and some packages compiled (a good one to compile some patches
 is navalha, from glerm soares)

My issue at the moment is, the resolution on Ubuntu 8.04, as well 
finding ways in figuring out external drive permissions. Everything else 
is just brilliant...

Glad that things are working out well, shame we missed you in the UK. We 
must try it again  get it right next time :-)

marc



hi marc

i've been using pure:dyne last year on a hp nx6120, but instead of
booting from CD, i've docked it on my HD. my other system was a
slackware 10.2. but i couldn't use all the patches from pdp

we are having good experiences with puredata on ubuntu 7.10 and the
extended package from puredata.org.

in ubuntu 8.04 i have some problems to install the extended package
from the site, but i could manage to install trought repositories from
ubuntu and some packages compiled (a good one to compile some patches
is navalha, from glerm soares)

we tried puredata on fedora 8 some months ago, but the package that
has on puredata website doesn't bring all the patches as well,
specially pdp

well, puredata on a salckware12 is working really fine, and there is
one friend of ours with great results on a debian...

 :)

best from here,

r

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:47 AM, marc garrett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hey Ricardo,
  
   What's your opinion on pure dine?
  
   marc
   hi kev
  
   it is possible to do with ruindow$:
   - you can use VLC
  
   or dyne:bolic - just restart your computer with dyne: cd on its 
driver
   and dyne:linux will be up and running
  
:)
  
   best
   r
  
   On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:39 AM, marc garrett
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hi Kev,
  
   OK - I am not sure if you read Ricardo's post?
  
   I use all 3 operating systems, but currently deeply involved with
   Linux/Ubuntu.
  
   I think that Ricardo's suggestions are excellent, and can be 
also used
   on Windows XP.
  
   marc
  
   Hi Marc,
  
   Im using Windows XP at the moment.
  
   Kev
  
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, marc garrett
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  
   Hi Kevin,
  
   What operating system will you be using?
  
   marc
Hey,
   
I want to set up a live video stream so that the 
scene/subject
   can be
represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a 
begginer on
   this, can
anyone advise me on where to start?
   
--
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Hi Kev,

The other thing that you can do, if you are looking for software (free), 
is go to http://sourceforge.net/

Do a search within their site and you can download all kinds of goodies, 
including VLC...

marc

Thanks for your suggestion, am looking at the web site at the moment but 
its mostly in Spanish and Im finding it a bit difficult, is there some 
software that I download, does this work with VLC somehow?

ha ha ruindozz,
its breaking my heart, every now and then Ive been getting random news 
and adverts audio clips for the past 2 weeks I have 3 or 4 antivirus and 
anti spyware packages running and nothings cleared it.

I can install Ubuntu, I just got a new laptop and Ive been meaning to do so.
I'll also try out dyne.

Thanks again

Kev



On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:39 PM, marc garrett 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Kev,

OK - I am not sure if you read Ricardo's post?

I use all 3 operating systems, but currently deeply involved with
Linux/Ubuntu.

I think that Ricardo's suggestions are excellent, and can be also used
on Windows XP.

marc
 Hi Marc,

 Im using Windows XP at the moment.

 Kev




 On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, marc garrett
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Hi Kevin,

 What operating system will you be using?

 marc
  Hey,
 
  I want to set up a live video stream so that the scene/subject
 can be
  represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a begginer on
 this, can
  anyone advise me on where to start?
 
  --
  Kevin Flanagan
 
  Research Blog - http://www.kevflanagan.wordpress.com
  Video Blog - http://www.kevflanaganvideoartblog.wordpress.com
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread ricardo ruiz
hi kev,

with ubuntu, darksnow+darkice is on the repository

theorur you can find at  http://theorur.sarava.org/


for the icecast server on estudiolivre, first register
http://estudiolivre.org/tiki-register.php . once logged, click in your
avatar and you will have and option criar novo canal
(http://estudiolivre.org/el-user.php?view_user=kevusername#  - change
kevusername for your username). once created, you will be able to use
this novo canal (new channel) to stream, don't forget your mounting
point and your password. you will not use your estudiolivre user for
the streaming, just the mounting point and mounting point password. it
works on port 8000. once online, your stream will be something like
http://estudiolivre.org:8000/kevsradio

to check if it is working, check @ aovivo.estudiolivre.org

it works for audio or audio and video

best and good luck,

r


On 7/9/08, Kev Flanagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Ricardo,

 Thanks for your suggestion, am looking at the web site at the moment but its
 mostly in Spanish and Im finding it a bit difficult, is there some software
 that I download, does this work with VLC somehow?

 ha ha ruindozz,
 its breaking my heart, every now and then Ive been getting random news and
 adverts audio clips for the past 2 weeks I have 3 or 4 antivirus and anti
 spyware packages running and nothings cleared it.

 I can install Ubuntu, I just got a new laptop and Ive been meaning to do so.
 I'll also try out dyne.

 Thanks again

 Kev



 On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:39 PM, marc garrett
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Hi Kev,

 OK - I am not sure if you read Ricardo's post?

 I use all 3 operating systems, but currently deeply involved with
 Linux/Ubuntu.

 I think that Ricardo's suggestions are excellent, and can be also used
 on Windows XP.

 marc
  Hi Marc,
 
  Im using Windows XP at the moment.
 
  Kev
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, marc garrett
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  Hi Kevin,
 
  What operating system will you be using?
 
  marc
   Hey,
  
   I want to set up a live video stream so that the scene/subject
  can be
   represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a begginer on
  this, can
   anyone advise me on where to start?
  
   --
   Kevin Flanagan
  
   Research Blog - http://www.kevflanagan.wordpress.com
   Video Blog - http://www.kevflanaganvideoartblog.wordpress.com
   Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevflanagan
  
 
 
  
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread ricardo ruiz
hi marc

yesterday we had a problem on a ubuntu and the x server! :)

we are now with some nice patches on pd, many things on
puredeposito.estudiolivre.org

yeah, so few days in london, rainy, running, rush so london  :)


best from salvador,

r

On 7/9/08, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Ricardo,

 Ruth  I am going to have a go at pure:dyne, as part of a residency at
 Access Space n a couple of months time http://access-space.org. In fact,
 I have already begun playing with it...

  in ubuntu 8.04 i have some problems to install the extended package
  from the site, but i could manage to install trought repositories from
  ubuntu and some packages compiled (a good one to compile some patches
  is navalha, from glerm soares)

 My issue at the moment is, the resolution on Ubuntu 8.04, as well
 finding ways in figuring out external drive permissions. Everything else
 is just brilliant...

 Glad that things are working out well, shame we missed you in the UK. We
 must try it again  get it right next time :-)

 marc



 hi marc

 i've been using pure:dyne last year on a hp nx6120, but instead of
 booting from CD, i've docked it on my HD. my other system was a
 slackware 10.2. but i couldn't use all the patches from pdp

 we are having good experiences with puredata on ubuntu 7.10 and the
 extended package from puredata.org.

 in ubuntu 8.04 i have some problems to install the extended package
 from the site, but i could manage to install trought repositories from
 ubuntu and some packages compiled (a good one to compile some patches
 is navalha, from glerm soares)

 we tried puredata on fedora 8 some months ago, but the package that
 has on puredata website doesn't bring all the patches as well,
 specially pdp

 well, puredata on a salckware12 is working really fine, and there is
 one friend of ours with great results on a debian...

  :)

 best from here,

 r

 On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:47 AM, marc garrett
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Ricardo,
   
What's your opinion on pure dine?
   
marc
hi kev
   
it is possible to do with ruindow$:
- you can use VLC
   
or dyne:bolic - just restart your computer with dyne: cd on its
 driver
and dyne:linux will be up and running
   
 :)
   
best
r
   
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:39 AM, marc garrett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Hi Kev,
   
OK - I am not sure if you read Ricardo's post?
   
I use all 3 operating systems, but currently deeply involved with
Linux/Ubuntu.
   
I think that Ricardo's suggestions are excellent, and can be
 also used
on Windows XP.
   
marc
   
Hi Marc,
   
Im using Windows XP at the moment.
   
Kev
   
   
   
   
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, marc garrett
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   
Hi Kevin,
   
What operating system will you be using?
   
marc
 Hey,

 I want to set up a live video stream so that the
 scene/subject
can be
 represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a
 begginer on
this, can
 anyone advise me on where to start?

 --
 Kevin Flanagan

 Research Blog - http://www.kevflanagan.wordpress.com
 Video Blog -
 http://www.kevflanaganvideoartblog.wordpress.com
 Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevflanagan

   
 

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Re: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes

2008-07-09 Thread patrick simons
Hi Dave and all
Would it be a good idea to leave one speech bubble blank for ner
behaviourists to fill in?
or not...
just a thought
bw
Patrick

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:23 PM, dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi marc

 I'm going to have a go - it needs to be a regular thing I agree, as it
 would have much more impact than a one-off. I could probably manage
 one per week!

 cheers, dave

 2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi Dave,
 
  I was wondering if there was a more regular pattern of work whether we
  could look forward to a weekly or bi-weekly edition?
 
  marc
  hi marc
 
  Thanks for having a look. I'm exploring a few different comic ideas at
  the moment, and if one pops out that seems to work, I'll try to keep
  it going regularly. You're right, there is a sort of journalistic
  flavour to my work, I think I need to recognise this more. I'll keep
  you posted on new installments!
 
  cheers, dave
 
  2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Hi Dave,
 
  Yes, it made me titter. It is interesting how much of your work seems
 to
  maintain a flavour of newspaper journalism, somehow.
 
  Are these strips a regular, or occasional?
 
  marc
 
 
 
  thanks michael!
  dave
 
  2008/7/8 Michael Szpakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
  it made *me* laugh :)
  I like your drawing style  you hit the creepiness of the new toryism
 rather well. It's miles better than the ones they have in the Guardian when
 Steve Bell isn't there...
  michael
 
 
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  From: dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes
  To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
 netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
  Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 8:13 PM
  I made this today:
  http://davemiller.org/comix/rc_08_07_08.gif
 
  would it make a decent series? It's very London-centric
  I realise
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread ricardo ruiz
hi marc,

access space is excellent! tatiana use to talk with they one or two
years ago, they have quite similar proposes with the ones we have in
brazil... don't know they personally, but please send a big hug!


best,

r

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Kev Flanagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Ricardo,

 This will keep me busy for a while :)

 Thanks again,

 Kevin



 On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, ricardo ruiz
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi kev,

 with ubuntu, darksnow+darkice is on the repository

 theorur you can find at  http://theorur.sarava.org/


 for the icecast server on estudiolivre, first register
 http://estudiolivre.org/tiki-register.php . once logged, click in your
 avatar and you will have and option criar novo canal
 (http://estudiolivre.org/el-user.php?view_user=kevusername#  - change
 kevusername for your username). once created, you will be able to use
 this novo canal (new channel) to stream, don't forget your mounting
 point and your password. you will not use your estudiolivre user for
 the streaming, just the mounting point and mounting point password. it
 works on port 8000. once online, your stream will be something like
 http://estudiolivre.org:8000/kevsradio

 to check if it is working, check @ aovivo.estudiolivre.org

 it works for audio or audio and video

 best and good luck,

 r


 On 7/9/08, Kev Flanagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Ricardo,
 
  Thanks for your suggestion, am looking at the web site at the moment but
  its
  mostly in Spanish and Im finding it a bit difficult, is there some
  software
  that I download, does this work with VLC somehow?
 
  ha ha ruindozz,
  its breaking my heart, every now and then Ive been getting random news
  and
  adverts audio clips for the past 2 weeks I have 3 or 4 antivirus and
  anti
  spyware packages running and nothings cleared it.
 
  I can install Ubuntu, I just got a new laptop and Ive been meaning to do
  so.
  I'll also try out dyne.
 
  Thanks again
 
  Kev
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:39 PM, marc garrett
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  Hi Kev,
 
  OK - I am not sure if you read Ricardo's post?
 
  I use all 3 operating systems, but currently deeply involved with
  Linux/Ubuntu.
 
  I think that Ricardo's suggestions are excellent, and can be also used
  on Windows XP.
 
  marc
   Hi Marc,
  
   Im using Windows XP at the moment.
  
   Kev
  
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:48 AM, marc garrett
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   Hi Kevin,
  
   What operating system will you be using?
  
   marc
Hey,
   
I want to set up a live video stream so that the scene/subject
   can be
represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a begginer on
   this, can
anyone advise me on where to start?
   
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Hi Ricardo,

Aha...puredeposito.estudiolivre.org

cool :-)

 yeah, so few days in london, rainy, running, rush so london :)

Well chat about this, I know it can be resolved  I have some ideas ;-)

marc
 hi marc

 yesterday we had a problem on a ubuntu and the x server! :)

 we are now with some nice patches on pd, many things on
 puredeposito.estudiolivre.org

 yeah, so few days in london, rainy, running, rush so london  :)


 best from salvador,

 r

 On 7/9/08, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hi Ricardo,

 Ruth  I am going to have a go at pure:dyne, as part of a residency at
 Access Space n a couple of months time http://access-space.org. In fact,
 I have already begun playing with it...

  in ubuntu 8.04 i have some problems to install the extended package
  from the site, but i could manage to install trought repositories from
  ubuntu and some packages compiled (a good one to compile some patches
  is navalha, from glerm soares)

 My issue at the moment is, the resolution on Ubuntu 8.04, as well
 finding ways in figuring out external drive permissions. Everything else
 is just brilliant...

 Glad that things are working out well, shame we missed you in the UK. We
 must try it again  get it right next time :-)

 marc



 hi marc

 i've been using pure:dyne last year on a hp nx6120, but instead of
 booting from CD, i've docked it on my HD. my other system was a
 slackware 10.2. but i couldn't use all the patches from pdp

 we are having good experiences with puredata on ubuntu 7.10 and the
 extended package from puredata.org.

 in ubuntu 8.04 i have some problems to install the extended package
 from the site, but i could manage to install trought repositories from
 ubuntu and some packages compiled (a good one to compile some patches
 is navalha, from glerm soares)

 we tried puredata on fedora 8 some months ago, but the package that
 has on puredata website doesn't bring all the patches as well,
 specially pdp

 well, puredata on a salckware12 is working really fine, and there is
 one friend of ours with great results on a debian...

  :)

 best from here,

 r

 On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:47 AM, marc garrett
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Ricardo,
   
What's your opinion on pure dine?
   
marc
hi kev
   
it is possible to do with ruindow$:
- you can use VLC
   
or dyne:bolic - just restart your computer with dyne: cd on its
 driver
and dyne:linux will be up and running
   
 :)
   
best
r
   
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:39 AM, marc garrett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Hi Kev,
   
OK - I am not sure if you read Ricardo's post?
   
I use all 3 operating systems, but currently deeply involved with
Linux/Ubuntu.
   
I think that Ricardo's suggestions are excellent, and can be
 also used
on Windows XP.
   
marc
   
Hi Marc,
   
Im using Windows XP at the moment.
   
Kev
   
   
   
   
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 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   
Hi Kevin,
   
What operating system will you be using?
   
marc
 Hey,

 I want to set up a live video stream so that the
 scene/subject
can be
 represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a
 begginer on
this, can
 anyone advise me on where to start?

 --
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 Research Blog - http://www.kevflanagan.wordpress.com
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Live video streaming, any ideas how to?

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Hi Ricardo,

 access space is excellent! tatiana use to talk with they one or two
 years ago, they have quite similar proposes with the ones we have in
 brazil... don't know they personally, but please send a big hug!

Yes, they are an excellent bunch, real people doing real thingz...

We will be collaborating with them on various projects soon, just 
chatting at the moment.

marc


best,

r

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Kev Flanagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi Ricardo,
  
   This will keep me busy for a while  :)
  
   Thanks again,
  
   Kevin
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, ricardo ruiz
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   hi kev,
  
   with ubuntu, darksnow+darkice is on the repository
  
   theorur you can find at  http://theorur.sarava.org/
  
  
   for the icecast server on estudiolivre, first register
   http://estudiolivre.org/tiki-register.php . once logged, click in 
your
   avatar and you will have and option criar novo canal
   (http://estudiolivre.org/el-user.php?view_user=kevusername#  - change
   kevusername for your username). once created, you will be able to use
   this novo canal (new channel) to stream, don't forget your mounting
   point and your password. you will not use your estudiolivre user for
   the streaming, just the mounting point and mounting point 
password. it
   works on port 8000. once online, your stream will be something like
   http://estudiolivre.org:8000/kevsradio
  
   to check if it is working, check @ aovivo.estudiolivre.org
  
   it works for audio or audio and video
  
   best and good luck,
  
   r
  
  
   On 7/9/08, Kev Flanagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Ricardo,
   
Thanks for your suggestion, am looking at the web site at the 
moment but
its
mostly in Spanish and Im finding it a bit difficult, is there some
software
that I download, does this work with VLC somehow?
   
ha ha ruindozz,
its breaking my heart, every now and then Ive been getting 
random news
and
adverts audio clips for the past 2 weeks I have 3 or 4 
antivirus and
anti
spyware packages running and nothings cleared it.
   
I can install Ubuntu, I just got a new laptop and Ive been 
meaning to do
so.
I'll also try out dyne.
   
Thanks again
   
Kev
   
   
   
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:39 PM, marc garrett
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   
Hi Kev,
   
OK - I am not sure if you read Ricardo's post?
   
I use all 3 operating systems, but currently deeply involved 
with
Linux/Ubuntu.
   
I think that Ricardo's suggestions are excellent, and can be 
also used
on Windows XP.
   
marc
 Hi Marc,

 Im using Windows XP at the moment.

 Kev




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 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Hi Kevin,

 What operating system will you be using?

 marc
  Hey,
 
  I want to set up a live video stream so that the 
scene/subject
 can be
  represented remotely as part of an exhibit, Im a 
begginer on
 this, can
  anyone advise me on where to start?
 
  --
  Kevin Flanagan
 
  Research Blog - http://www.kevflanagan.wordpress.com
  Video Blog - 
http://www.kevflanaganvideoartblog.wordpress.com
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Re: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Hi Patrick  Dave,

Your idea reminds me Andy Deck's project 'Panel Junction', it is of 
course very different in respect of content, but the behaviour could be 
similar...

Panel Junction combines the graphic novel with forms of shared 
authorship that have been made possible by the Internet.
http://artcontext.org/act/07/panel/

marc

Hi Dave and all
Would it be a good idea to leave one speech bubble blank for ner 
behaviourists to fill in?
or not...
just a thought
bw
Patrick

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wrote:

Hi marc

I'm going to have a go - it needs to be a regular thing I agree, as it
would have much more impact than a one-off. I could probably manage
one per week!

cheers, dave

2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Dave,

 I was wondering if there was a more regular pattern of work whether we
 could look forward to a weekly or bi-weekly edition?

 marc
 hi marc

 Thanks for having a look. I'm exploring a few different comic 
ideas at
 the moment, and if one pops out that seems to work, I'll try to keep
 it going regularly. You're right, there is a sort of journalistic
 flavour to my work, I think I need to recognise this more. I'll keep
 you posted on new installments!

 cheers, dave

 2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi Dave,

 Yes, it made me titter. It is interesting how much of your work 
seems to
 maintain a flavour of newspaper journalism, somehow.

 Are these strips a regular, or occasional?

 marc



 thanks michael!
 dave

 2008/7/8 Michael Szpakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 it made *me* laugh :)
 I like your drawing style  you hit the creepiness of the new 
toryism rather well. It's miles better than the ones they have in the 
Guardian when Steve Bell isn't there...
 michael


 --- On Tue, 7/8/08, dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 From: dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes
 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
 Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 8:13 PM
 I made this today:
 http://davemiller.org/comix/rc_08_07_08.gif

 would it make a decent series? It's very London-centric
 I realise
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[NetBehaviour] Nathaniel Stern's blog 'implicit art' from 2005

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Hi all,

Just reread an enjoyable text on Nathaniel Stern's blog 'implicit art' 
from 2005 about an exhibition featuring subversive work from the 
mid-Apartheid era.

Maybe it's the ex-comic book geek in me (well, uh, maybe not so ex?), 
the former Reggae/Ska fanatic with over 500 albums, the obsessions I 
have with text as a mediation/translation/creation of art and history, 
or maybe it's just really rad - but this show kicks @ss N.Stern.

http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2005/03/20/572/
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Re: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes

2008-07-09 Thread dave miller
hi patrick and marc

Thanks for all the feedback - this is great!
I have wondered if I should open up the work more - make it
collaborative - as i always want to share the creation.
I have got a cartoon generator that I built last year:
http://davemiller.org/projects/cartoon_generator/
and maybe I could tie it in with this?
dave

2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Patrick  Dave,

 Your idea reminds me Andy Deck's project 'Panel Junction', it is of
 course very different in respect of content, but the behaviour could be
 similar...

 Panel Junction combines the graphic novel with forms of shared
 authorship that have been made possible by the Internet.
 http://artcontext.org/act/07/panel/

 marc

 Hi Dave and all
 Would it be a good idea to leave one speech bubble blank for ner
 behaviourists to fill in?
 or not...
 just a thought
 bw
 Patrick

 On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:23 PM, dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

Hi marc

I'm going to have a go - it needs to be a regular thing I agree, as it
would have much more impact than a one-off. I could probably manage
one per week!

cheers, dave

2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Dave,

 I was wondering if there was a more regular pattern of work whether we
 could look forward to a weekly or bi-weekly edition?

 marc
 hi marc

 Thanks for having a look. I'm exploring a few different comic
 ideas at
 the moment, and if one pops out that seems to work, I'll try to keep
 it going regularly. You're right, there is a sort of journalistic
 flavour to my work, I think I need to recognise this more. I'll keep
 you posted on new installments!

 cheers, dave

 2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi Dave,

 Yes, it made me titter. It is interesting how much of your work
 seems to
 maintain a flavour of newspaper journalism, somehow.

 Are these strips a regular, or occasional?

 marc



 thanks michael!
 dave

 2008/7/8 Michael Szpakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 it made *me* laugh :)
 I like your drawing style  you hit the creepiness of the new
 toryism rather well. It's miles better than the ones they have in the
 Guardian when Steve Bell isn't there...
 michael


 --- On Tue, 7/8/08, dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



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 I made this today:
 http://davemiller.org/comix/rc_08_07_08.gif

 would it make a decent series? It's very London-centric
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Re: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Hi Dave  Patrick,

Yes I remember this piece and liked it.

Perhaps, as a way of getting an audience to view your strips (if 
regular), would be to offer the same strips again to visitors, where 
they can also fill in their own text/versions into the speach bubbles.

marc


hi patrick and marc
Thanks for all the feedback - this is great!
I have wondered if I should open up the work more - make it
collaborative - as i always want to share the creation.
I have got a cartoon generator that I built last year:
http://davemiller.org/projects/cartoon_generator/
and maybe I could tie it in with this?
dave

2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Hi Patrick  Dave,
  
   Your idea reminds me Andy Deck's project 'Panel Junction', it is of
   course very different in respect of content, but the behaviour could be
   similar...
  
   Panel Junction combines the graphic novel with forms of shared
   authorship that have been made possible by the Internet.
   http://artcontext.org/act/07/panel/
  
   marc
  
   Hi Dave and all
   Would it be a good idea to leave one speech bubble blank for ner
   behaviourists to fill in?
   or not...
   just a thought
   bw
   Patrick
  
   On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:23 PM, dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  
   Hi marc
  
   I'm going to have a go - it needs to be a regular thing I agree, as it
   would have much more impact than a one-off. I could probably manage
   one per week!
  
   cheers, dave
  
   2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Dave,
   
I was wondering if there was a more regular pattern of work 
whether we
could look forward to a weekly or bi-weekly edition?
   
marc
hi marc
   
Thanks for having a look. I'm exploring a few different comic
   ideas at
the moment, and if one pops out that seems to work, I'll try to keep
it going regularly. You're right, there is a sort of journalistic
flavour to my work, I think I need to recognise this more. I'll keep
you posted on new installments!
   
cheers, dave
   
2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
Hi Dave,
   
Yes, it made me titter. It is interesting how much of your work
   seems to
maintain a flavour of newspaper journalism, somehow.
   
Are these strips a regular, or occasional?
   
marc
   
   
   
thanks michael!
dave
   
2008/7/8 Michael Szpakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
   
it made *me* laugh :)
I like your drawing style  you hit the creepiness of the new
   toryism rather well. It's miles better than the ones they have in the
   Guardian when Steve Bell isn't there...
michael
   
   
--- On Tue, 7/8/08, dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
   
From: dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
   netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 8:13 PM
I made this today:
http://davemiller.org/comix/rc_08_07_08.gif
   
would it make a decent series? It's very London-centric
I realise
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Re: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes

2008-07-09 Thread dave miller
hi marc

That's a good idea - that way I can make the strips under my 'control'
- saying what I want and how to say it - and at the same time the
collaboration can add to/ build on what I've done in unexpected ways,
and help build community around the work.

good stuff!

dave


2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Dave  Patrick,

 Yes I remember this piece and liked it.

 Perhaps, as a way of getting an audience to view your strips (if
 regular), would be to offer the same strips again to visitors, where
 they can also fill in their own text/versions into the speach bubbles.

 marc


 hi patrick and marc
 Thanks for all the feedback - this is great!
 I have wondered if I should open up the work more - make it
 collaborative - as i always want to share the creation.
 I have got a cartoon generator that I built last year:
 http://davemiller.org/projects/cartoon_generator/
 and maybe I could tie it in with this?
 dave

 2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Patrick  Dave,
   
Your idea reminds me Andy Deck's project 'Panel Junction', it is of
course very different in respect of content, but the behaviour could be
similar...
   
Panel Junction combines the graphic novel with forms of shared
authorship that have been made possible by the Internet.
http://artcontext.org/act/07/panel/
   
marc
   
Hi Dave and all
Would it be a good idea to leave one speech bubble blank for ner
behaviourists to fill in?
or not...
just a thought
bw
Patrick
   
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:23 PM, dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   
Hi marc
   
I'm going to have a go - it needs to be a regular thing I agree, as it
would have much more impact than a one-off. I could probably manage
one per week!
   
cheers, dave
   
2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Dave,

 I was wondering if there was a more regular pattern of work
 whether we
 could look forward to a weekly or bi-weekly edition?

 marc
 hi marc

 Thanks for having a look. I'm exploring a few different comic
ideas at
 the moment, and if one pops out that seems to work, I'll try to keep
 it going regularly. You're right, there is a sort of journalistic
 flavour to my work, I think I need to recognise this more. I'll keep
 you posted on new installments!

 cheers, dave

 2008/7/9 marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi Dave,

 Yes, it made me titter. It is interesting how much of your work
seems to
 maintain a flavour of newspaper journalism, somehow.

 Are these strips a regular, or occasional?

 marc



 thanks michael!
 dave

 2008/7/8 Michael Szpakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 it made *me* laugh :)
 I like your drawing style  you hit the creepiness of the new
toryism rather well. It's miles better than the ones they have in the
Guardian when Steve Bell isn't there...
 michael


 --- On Tue, 7/8/08, dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 From: dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [NetBehaviour] the ruling classes
 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
 Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 8:13 PM
 I made this today:
 http://davemiller.org/comix/rc_08_07_08.gif

 would it make a decent series? It's very London-centric
 I realise
 thanks, dave
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[NetBehaviour] INTERACTIVE SCREEN, BNMI's annual new media summit and workshop

2008-07-09 Thread marc garrett
Dear all,


INTERACTIVE SCREEN, BNMI's annual new media summit and workshop, is now
accepting applications.
  
The theme this year is SUSTAIN. Oui. Further details are attached.

The deadline is July 25.

There are two paths to the mountains:

a/ You may register as INDEPENDENT ARTIST/PRODUCER/SME; the tuition is
$600 and is worth it if you have it. There are many people to meet and a
fine time to be had, replete with international new media luminaries,
the convergence or digital artists, industry, technologists,
distributors, funders, commissioners, legal counsel,  business acumen
, and wildlife.

b/ If you have a new media project corresponding to the thematic lines
of the event and that you wish to further develop, you can apply for the
INTENSIVE SCHOLARSHIP program. 10 scholarships are available which
support 50% of travel and 100% of tuition, room, meals, and mentorship.
The 10 projects will be adjudicated by an external Peer Advisor
committee and participants will be invited to come to the event a day in
advance and to stay on a day extra to have focussed time with the Peer
Advisors, Jan Christoph Zoels, Melissa Mongiat and Daniel Canty. Between
the pre and post mentorship days they will participate fully in the
Interactive Screen event and be scheduled into one to one mentorship
sessions with individuals such as Charles Zamaria - Bell Fund,
representatives from NFB offices across the country, Judy Gladstone -
BravoFact, Ravi Shukla - IP Lawyer, Marty Avery - Business Coach, Ana
Seranno - CFC, Daniel Fortin - Business Development, Cindy Poremba -
Games Theorist, Rick Prelinger - Founder  CEO The Internet Archive,
Bill Daniel - Hobo Filmmaker, The Yes Men and more. 

See http://www.banffcentre.ca/programs/program.aspx?id=698

Attached you will find two documents that promote this event. One
describes the general registration process (we are accepting
registrations up to the day of the event) and the other describes the
scholarship application process (application deadline July 25th).

I would appreciate it if you would pass this information along to your
network.

Thanks in advance,

Susan

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[NetBehaviour] new poetry film site

2008-07-09 Thread Donna Kuhn
poetry films wanted at http://www.poetryvisualized.com

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[NetBehaviour] Eflorescencias alcalinas Daniel Lara 1/4 www.un-cuarto.org

2008-07-09 Thread arcangel




Eflorescencias alcalinas*

la salitre o eflorescencias alcalinas surgen en las paredes de ladrillo
cuando la humedad se filtra. Desde el punto de vista racional estas 
eflorescencias alcalinas  transgreden la limpieza y perfección
del interior de un espacio habitable y que mejor cita que la de John
Cage para contrarrestar dicha percepción mundana, Donde quiera que 
estemos, lo que escuchamos es, en  su mayor parte, ruido.
Cuando lo ignoramos, nos perturba. Cuando lo escuchamos, lo encontramos
fascinante

Dentro de la galería 1/4 habrá recorrido subjetivo en sus paredes
exedidas de salitre y con un ligero
apoyo de recursos tecnológicos será posible contemplar estos sucios
relieves como seductoras
planicies de paisajes áridos o árticos.


...softranslation to english

 the saltpeter or alkaline eflorescencias arises in the brick walls 
when the humidity filters. From the rational point of view these 
alkaline eflorescencias transgress the cleaning and perfection of the 
interior of an inhabitable space and that better appointment than the 
one of John Cage  to resist this worldly perception, Where it wants 
that we are, which we listened is, mostly, noise. When we ignored it, it 
disturbs  us. When we listened to it, we found it fascinating  Within 
gallery 1/4 will have crossed subjective in its exedidas walls of 
saltpeter and with a slight support of technological resources it will 
be possible to contemplate these dirty reliefs like seductive plains of 
barren or Arctic landscapes.* 



jueves  10 julio 2008 ,
20:00
www.un-cuarto.org http://www.un-cuarto.org
1/4 Espacio emergente de arte y experimentacion
Tapachula 6 colonia Roma
mexico df









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[NetBehaviour] Julu Twine lapdance, Preparing for SL

2008-07-09 Thread Alan Sondheim



Julu Twine lapdance

Julu Twine lapdance for imaginary
her life and times are based on Nikuko Dojoji
she thinks her body looks the same but she is older
one of them is older

http://www.alansondheim.org/lapdance.mp4

Preparing for SL

http://www.alansondheim.org/kiras1.mov
http://www.alansondheim.org/kiralakeperform.mp3
http://www.alansondheim.org/ overview jpgs

she is too tired to say more


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