Re: [NetBehaviour] this code is not my own
this work is not my own. it is not my own because i have not created it. i did not create the connection between these keys and the virtual memory with which they interact; nor did i create the manner in which these words will be understood. Nor did you create the category of art or the genre of net.art. But that does not mean that your work would exist if you did not make it. our work is work though our work is not our own; it lives in temporal memory, in the senses and in the contemplation of those who come across it. a painter who paints did not create the paint with which they work; if so, they did not create the paint's pigment; if so, they did not create the canvas; if so they did not cut the wood from which the canvas frame has been made; if the wood had not been cut straight, then the picture would not be a rectangle. the picture is not a rectangle anyway. And yet, they paint. they paint and paint and how disgusting their works are! This can be contrasted with the postindustrial/outsourcing/offshoring approach of Kostabi, Koons and Hirst. (Or with a traditional artist's studio where an assistant would paint the clothes or the hands.) how the industrial revolution has put an end to our beautiful notions of gothisism. through my work with coding i have come to see that no ones work is their own, we can simply make manifest with the materials we have learned to control. There comes a point at which that which one is controlling, is the people who are tangibly controlling the materials. At that point one's materials are human beings, and the art is management not code. our management is not our own; it lies within interactions between nodal points, charged towards putting the purpose upon their routes. At that point the potential of code to resist its exploitation by manageralism collapses and the artist simply reflects the ego of corporate information culture. our purposes are not our own; they are programmed into us and we, running along wires and lucid configurations of plastic, reformable space, imagine how the architecture surrounding us must have been necessary for some reason or another. Harold Cohen's talk at the Tate a few years back (available to stream here; http://www.tate.org.uk/onlineevents/webcasts/harold_cohen/ default.jsp ) mentions the idea of code as craft. our craft is not our own; we exist to configure, shape and forge materials for the reasons we may come to comprehend. - Rob. thanks rob! ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Benjamin R Bailey de Paor Arts industries professional cultura3 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] THE CSSNAKETRIX/ this text is not my own
this text is not my own; my impluse drives the discourse.this discourse is not my own it is sedimented within my capacity for understanding and seeing; i have been programmed to be this way.this way is not my own; i share it with the others who cross, traverce and transcend through our memeterrain; i share it with my housemate from the other side of the world, whoes parents met at the same place as mine, though from the other side of the world and who was conceived at the same time as me.my housemate is not my own though we share some of the same source code. On 28 Sep 2008, at 11:24, james jwm-art net wrote: THE CSSNAKETRIX A new online semi-net-art-but-not-really-but-could-be-up-to-you (it has user interaction and a gallery woo) /*it's 1130 now been coding since 1430 yesterday to finish this*/ Right, THE CSSNAKETRIX is a new work created by me, not entirely original. It's a text-focused work abusing CSS and layering oodles and oodles of text in different colours and positions into your web browser. To begin with it has 8 examples, but you can modify these and tamper with them and then save them to THE CSSNAKETRIX GALLERY - but hurry, save spaces are limited to a hundred ;-) http://www.jwm-art.net/cssnaketrix/snaketrix.php Regards, James. ThE arRANGEment of tha C0d3 i5 m.y::own, i think, atleast - I cut my own wood for it. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Benjamin R Bailey de Paor Arts industries professional cultura3 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] THE CSSNAKETRIX/ this text is not my own
Yes, but for normal everyday life it's my (cough expletives) own. On 28/9/2008, benjamin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this text is not my own; my impluse drives the discourse.this discourse is not my own it is sedimented within my capacity for understanding and seeing; i have been programmed to be this way.this way is not my own; i share it with the others who cross, traverce and transcend through our memeterrain; i share it with my housemate from the other side of the world, whoes parents met at the same place as mine, though from the other side of the world and who was conceived at the same time as me.my housemate is not my own though we share some of the same source code. On 28 Sep 2008, at 11:24, james jwm-art net wrote: THE CSSNAKETRIX A new online semi-net-art-but-not-really-but-could-be-up-to-you (it has user interaction and a gallery woo) /*it's 1130 now been coding since 1430 yesterday to finish this*/ Right, THE CSSNAKETRIX is a new work created by me, not entirely original. It's a text-focused work abusing CSS and layering oodles and oodles of text in different colours and positions into your web browser. To begin with it has 8 examples, but you can modify these and tamper with them and then save them to THE CSSNAKETRIX GALLERY - but hurry, save spaces are limited to a hundred ;-) http://www.jwm-art.net/cssnaketrix/snaketrix.php Regards, James. ThE arRANGEment of tha C0d3 i5 m.y::own, i think, atleast - I cut my own wood for it. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Benjamin R Bailey de Paor Arts industries professional cultura3 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] THE CSSNAKETRIX/ this text is not my own
On 28/9/2008, benjamin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this text is not my own; my impluse drives the discourse.this discourse is not my own it is sedimented within my capacity for understanding and seeing; i have been programmed to be this way.this way is not my own; i share it with the others who cross, traverce and transcend through our memeterrain; i share it with my housemate from the other side of the world, whoes parents met at the same place as mine, though from the other side of the world and who was conceived at the same time as me.my housemate is not my own though we share some of the same source code. Benjamin, I believe you left this in my head: the loner - - - - - if you are priviledged to be in the situation you want to be in, doing as your profession that which stimulates you, take pity on the outsider trying from afar to enter into your field in the only way an outsider can: alone, from outside. the outsider may not work with people in the field, nor have friends around him or herself with which to talk indepth and exchange ideas. the professional on the other hand, his/her daily reality encompasses discussion of the concepts within the the field. their position is enviable to the outsider, not only from the financial but from the point of view of further learning, guidance and support. the outsider sees big holes is his/her work, always. gaps in their knowledge are heightened by: a)the outsider having an intention and goal, borne of who knows what intuition or one time awareness, which specified he himself (or her herself) is the tool of production, the core component - make as much good of this as possible. but it can seem as if this very attitude is entirely at odds with the professionals. b)the professional field, particularly toward the corporate and institutional levels, in the perception of the outsider, is accelerating away in the other direction. c)resistance to the professional field: stubbornness from frustration with it, becomes ingrained, causing further separation. the outsider is alone only with his/her own experience for guidance in the field. the outsider looks for holes and creates work to fall through them, but by doing so, merely serves the professionals further in their wall building against loner types. language. the professionals advance always in their field. they love to mock the past and those left behind. the outsider entropies, until all that is left is the core component that can see we're all just people really. the outsider says we can all live our ways but our ways have to change because this is really depressing again. the professionals are right because they know they are. the outsider is just fucked off with it all. On 28 Sep 2008, at 11:24, james jwm-art net wrote: THE CSSNAKETRIX A new online semi-net-art-but-not-really-but-could-be-up-to-you (it has user interaction and a gallery woo) /*it's 1130 now been coding since 1430 yesterday to finish this*/ Right, THE CSSNAKETRIX is a new work created by me, not entirely original. It's a text-focused work abusing CSS and layering oodles and oodles of text in different colours and positions into your web browser. To begin with it has 8 examples, but you can modify these and tamper with them and then save them to THE CSSNAKETRIX GALLERY - but hurry, save spaces are limited to a hundred ;-) http://www.jwm-art.net/cssnaketrix/snaketrix.php Regards, James. ThE arRANGEment of tha C0d3 i5 m.y::own, i think, atleast - I cut my own wood for it. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Benjamin R Bailey de Paor Arts industries professional cultura3 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] The Jeremy Bailey Interview on the Netbehaviour.
Hi Jeremy all Netbehaviourists, A warm thank you to Jeremy, for finding the time to take part in the interview on the Netbehaviour list. I hope those who specifically joined the list for the discussion, as well as regular subscribers, enjoyed the interview as it progressed. For those who still wish to visit The Jeremy Bailey Show: It will be at HTTP until 19 Oct 2008 http://www.http.uk.net I have been away in Sheffield this last week, but have heard there has been plenty of visitors since the opening. We will be putting photos up of the opening night this week coming. There will also be a cleaned up version of the interview with Jeremy, available on furtherfield.org site by the end of this week, with new reviews. thanks to all those that came out on friday, especially to all the HTTP staff, I really enjoyed my time in London and met so many nice people I might have to consider returning sometime very soon, Thank you for the kind words Jeremy (of course) for your patience - especially in regard to whenever a glitch occurred with tech - testing our resolve ;-) wishing all well. marc Hi Marc, Friday's performance went really really well, great turn out and amazing audience, who of course were integral to the performance, for those who are just checking in, I wrote a new piece of software called WarMail that lets groups of people work together on an email using an asteroids like interface. The premise being that in the future we will colonize space but will be spread so thin that everyone will have to have a certain military readiness to defend our intergalactic borders. We'll also want to keep in touch with loved ones, WarMail, represents a multitasking approach to this problem. It provides both military training and communication with loved ones. As an added bonus it requires you to do so in public with a group of strangers (collaborative team building!). On friday we composed an email to my mother using glowsticks and our voices to navigate a ship and attack clusters of letters that represented an alien army. The movement of our glowsticks rotated the ship, and our voices(in song) created thrust. Together we fired at letters to compose a message which, after much effort, read, goddd. I originally wanted something longer but the group was a bit disorganized and had trouble working together. We started things off by accidentally hitting the letter 'g', this is why we chose to start with god. It then took so long to get 'o' that I decided one word would be sufficient. Hitting the final letter 'd' resulted in much excitement and cheering which caused an accidental misfire and then laughter that triggered a second misfire, and thus the misspelling. I spoke to my mother today and she had received the email but was slightly confused and worried that I she had upset me somehow. The most interesting part of Friday's performance were the moments when individuals decided to act independently of the group. For instance at one point a lone clapper attempted to fire at the final 'd' as it was drifting past our sights. I was also surprised by the willingness of the audience to sing, in fact it seemed they enjoyed it a little too much, often over thrusting the ship past our target. They also sometimes sang overtop of my voice, missing crucial instructions. Overall it was really exciting for me to mesh my performance with a live audience and I learned a lot about how groups of drunken strangers interact with each other, for those interested, documentation of the performance (the actual screen capture video of the audience in the interface) can be seen at the gallery now. It's also secretly posted online, but I think I'll wait for the exhibition to expire before I publish the link. thanks to all those that came out on friday, especially to all the HTTP staff, I really enjoyed my time in London and met so many nice people I might have to consider returning sometime very soon, Jeremy On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:42 AM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jeremy, Before we wind this interview down - could you explain to those who were not present at the HTTP Gallery for your performance, what you did and how you feel it went, along with any other observations that you feel worth mentioning? marc Hey Marc, sorry for taking so long to reply, last minute business in prep for friday, Much of your work involves a GUI (Graphic User Interface). User interfaces as we generally experience them, provide components for users to communicate with a computer. The interface defines the boundary between software, the hardware device or a user. What is interesting is that you are actually within the interface as well, performing in these environments. Could you talk about the relationship between you as the software developer and the software itself, within your performances? It has always been very important
Re: [NetBehaviour] this code is not my own
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 benjamin wrote: how the industrial revolution has put an end to our beautiful notions of gothisism. JODI's 404 was informational picturesque desolation, and so is much of the nomination-for-semiopsy of surf clubs or pro surfers, so I think there's life in the old genre yet. our management is not our own; it lies within interactions between nodal points, charged towards putting the purpose upon their routes. Management aspires to creating a conscious productive order out of an unconscious unproductive disorder. In practice, it is rarely anything other than taking credit for not getting in the way too much. ;-) our purposes are not our own; they are programmed into us and we, running along wires and lucid configurations of plastic, reformable space, imagine how the architecture surrounding us must have been necessary for some reason or another. You don't need history under historicism... our craft is not our own; we exist to configure, shape and forge materials for the reasons we may come to comprehend. We are unlikely to realise our own subconscious through the labour of others. If we do we are probably a King rather than an artist. Now that *is* pre-industrial. ;-) - - Rob. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjfjpQACgkQCZbRMCZZBfYhpQCfU+YjSeiaZXc0a8WBU/SPPU76 OIgAoIXHIA40DKYkSrERwBi2TigF73Hw =dCey -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] THE CSSNAKETRIX
hi james I think this is a great work - I really enjoyed playing around with the controls- I got the hang of playing around with it quickly - it's very intuitive. The pictures generated have a lovely aesthetic to them. I find there's always an excitement with net art when the output is really interesting, then I find myself wondering how it could exist outside of the screen. I suppose it doesn't need to, that's the point, and it wouldn't make any sense anyway outside of the screen. anyway, really like it dave 2008/9/28 james jwm-art net [EMAIL PROTECTED]: THE CSSNAKETRIX A new online semi-net-art-but-not-really-but-could-be-up-to-you (it has user interaction and a gallery woo) /*it's 1130 now been coding since 1430 yesterday to finish this*/ Right, THE CSSNAKETRIX is a new work created by me, not entirely original. It's a text-focused work abusing CSS and layering oodles and oodles of text in different colours and positions into your web browser. To begin with it has 8 examples, but you can modify these and tamper with them and then save them to THE CSSNAKETRIX GALLERY - but hurry, save spaces are limited to a hundred ;-) http://www.jwm-art.net/cssnaketrix/snaketrix.php Regards, James. ThE arRANGEment of tha C0d3 i5 m.y::own, i think, atleast - I cut my own wood for it. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] spaced
spaced O Julu T when will you leave this awful place O Nikuko D. when will you show your real face O Alan S. the real is always erased O Jennifer what's erased is displaced, effaced O Julu what's effaced has no body and no face O Nikuko what's debased untraced is not replaced O Alan S. what's debased is not the case or face O Julu Nikuko Jennifer Alan entwined No calling forth the base of absent mind! http://www.alansondheim.org/spr1.jpg http://www.alansondheim.org/spr2.jpg http://www.alansondheim.org/spr3.jpg http://www.alansondheim.org/spr4.jpg ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
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Re: [NetBehaviour] THE CSSNAKETRIX
Hi Dave, Thanks for the comments, glad you like the piece. Some of the examples it has produced suggest Christmas card designs, or maybe posters. So during development of it, a CSS rule was added to the stylesheet to prevent the grey information box being sent to print. Cheers, james On 28/9/2008, dave miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi james I think this is a great work - I really enjoyed playing around with the controls- I got the hang of playing around with it quickly - it's very intuitive. The pictures generated have a lovely aesthetic to them. I find there's always an excitement with net art when the output is really interesting, then I find myself wondering how it could exist outside of the screen. I suppose it doesn't need to, that's the point, and it wouldn't make any sense anyway outside of the screen. anyway, really like it dave 2008/9/28 james jwm-art net [EMAIL PROTECTED]: THE CSSNAKETRIX A new online semi-net-art-but-not-really-but-could-be-up-to-you (it has user interaction and a gallery woo) /*it's 1130 now been coding since 1430 yesterday to finish this*/ Right, THE CSSNAKETRIX is a new work created by me, not entirely original. It's a text-focused work abusing CSS and layering oodles and oodles of text in different colours and positions into your web browser. To begin with it has 8 examples, but you can modify these and tamper with them and then save them to THE CSSNAKETRIX GALLERY - but hurry, save spaces are limited to a hundred ;-) http://www.jwm-art.net/cssnaketrix/snaketrix.php Regards, James. ThE arRANGEment of tha C0d3 i5 m.y::own, i think, atleast - I cut my own wood for it. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
