Re: [NetBehaviour] The People v The Banksters: A mass snow ball fight in the City.
yes! such a fantastic idea but will there be any snow left? dave 2009/2/3 info i...@furtherfield.org: The People v The Banksters: A mass snow ball fight in the City. They play with our money we play in the snow! Rumours are abounding about a mass snow ball fight between The People and The Banksters in the City of London tommorow. Text messages inviting people are bouncing around like snow balls and bail outs. It looks like its going to be big.. 6.4 million of us did not got work today..we decided to play in the snow instead how many will spread that spirit of play to the financial district tomorrow..? TOMORROW 3rd Feb - 1pm Royal Bank of Scotland, Bishops Gate, City of London. see you there, put the gloves on and keep it fluffy like snow.. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
It is clear to me and I have no problems with the language. The section that states ³the potential of translocally networked spatial practices² could have been more simply written, however it is clear in what it says that the research is engaging the potential of networked practices by practitioners who are interested in spaces that transcend the local (the way it was originally written was better). The next section, which states ³urban network processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of cultural participation and self-determination² is equally clear. Urban network processes are events that occur in urban environments within the network infrastructures of which such environments are composed (communications and transport are examples). Geocultural crises are crises that are caused by geocultural issues. This is shorthand for the post-colonial politics around access to land based resources by different cultural groups (Gaza is an example here, as is Darfur). I do not see what the problem is with the sub-phrase ³cultural participation and self-determination². It seems clear as it seeks to conflate the individuation of self (the forging of self) with participation in social activities (that is, the self depends on others to come into being). Sites of ³alternative urban engagement² simply refers to places where non-normalised social activities can be pursued and social groupings can form that facilitate those who do not conform to dominant social norms (eg: raves, biker cafes, hardcore clubs, etc). The last three words are, I agree, a little confusing. What is the object of the phrase ³emerging architectural cultures². Does this refer to cultures composed of architects or to cultures that are shaped by architecture? I would assume the latter, but the grammar employed here is, I agree, not very clear. Overall the text is clear and in its linguistic form usefully suggests what its cultural origins are (left intellectual academic). The text as a whole clearly states that its concern is with who gains access to and rights of definition of social and economic infrastructure in culturally contested urban spaces and what the implications are for the communities and individuals involved. Where is there a problem with that? Regards Simon On 3/2/09 10:23, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Mez, Does it mean something? Bob From: mez breeze netwur...@gmail.com To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Monday, 2 February, 2009 23:26:34 Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something? hi bob [+ assorted netbehaviouralists].. bob, i'm curious as 2 by u're assuming that the text ur quoting is muddy in terms of comprehension/meaning? do u think the terminology is inappropriate or unclear? chunks, mez On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:33 AM, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Yann, The other day someone posted on this list about a project that was a research platform... on the potential of translocally networked spatial practices. The project, it was claimed, investigates urban network processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of cultural participation and self-determination in which sites of alternative urban engagement are collected on a database as research into emerging architectural cultures. Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Eco-scope
Eco-scope is a communication tool that provides a context for discussing environmental affairs, acknowledging by its structure the importance of participation in any meaningful solutions that can be imagined. Last week Marc and I were interviewed by Andy Deck of Transnational Temps (creators of Eco-scope) about our take on media art and ecology. Eco-scope is currently featured in a touring exhibition called Ecomedia - Ecological Strategies in Today's Art. The variety of ways in which conversations can be retrieved and redistributed via Eco-scope is very powerful. The viewer of the archive can read a straight transcript of the conversation or they can control the speed of the chat replayed through the interface- this allows them to speed-read for an impression of the discussion or to take their time and follow up links. Archive of interview with Marc (man with his head in a box), Ruth (Eco-Fury-Budica-monkey hybrid) and Andy Deck(sea lion). http://tinyurl.com/b5eh4h Transnational Temps http://www.transnationaltemps.net/ Eco-scope http://eco-scope.org/ Ecomedia exhibition http://www.edith-russ-haus.de/english/ecomedia.html attachment: eco_scope.jpg___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
No Yann, I'm not as good looking as that Bob or the sculpture... Bob From: info i...@x-arn.org Monday, 2 February, 2009 23:14:34 Thanks Bob, are you http://bobcatchpole.com/biography.php ? bob catchpole a probablement écrit : Yann, The other day someone posted on this list about a project that was a research platform... on the potential of translocally networked spatial practices. The project, it was claimed, investigates urban network processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of cultural participation and self-determination in which sites of alternative urban engagement are collected on a database as research into emerging architectural cultures. By contrast, your text is eloquence personified. I really wouldn't worry about it. Bob *From:* info i...@x-arn.org* * Monday, 2 February, 2009 21:34:09 *Subject:* [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something? Hello Netbehaviourists, i'd like to know if the following text means something in english... i'm not sure, please let me know. cheers, yann Infoscape is an online image generator, using web server log files and background pictures to compose static images. Data extracted from log files, or from a database, are dripped onto the background picture, chosen by the user, in a way called ’statistic dripping’, as a tribute to Jackson Pollock . In Statistic Dripping, the canvas is a picture selected on the network by the painter. The painter is the user of the application. The movement is the trace of website visitors displacements, treated by the software. Furthermore, Infoscape works on JPEG compression level in order to transgress photography and reveal the intrinsic digital nature of the generated image. It confronts localized space evoked on pre-selected background picture and remote data included into these spaces, and doing so, it is a conceptual tool to preconfigure and reflect upon ubiquitous computing and the ability for every atom on earth to get an IP address and a digital identity. http://www.yannleguennec..com/blog/2004/12/28/infoscape/ -- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org mailto:NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1930 - Release Date: 01/31/09 20:03:00 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
Overall the text is clear and in its linguistic form usefully suggests what its cultural origins are (left intellectual academic). I don't recall the text, but there's a big lump representing many like it, and when I see those particular linguistic forms a big ACCESS DENIED msg pops up in my head automagically, and unless there's something that speaks to me I'm not going to take the time and effort to get beyond that ACCESS DENIED to understand the language used. It just comes across as meaningless if you're not within or near to, those cultural origins. The text as a whole clearly states that its concern is with who gains access to and rights of definition of social and economic infrastructure in culturally contested urban spaces and what the implications are for the communities and individuals involved. It kind of suggests to me, a sci-fi future, superficially utopian, but dystopian beneath the surface, a massive split in society between those that control and the rest (particular genre, logans run or something more recent (a film with clones, 2000+), gattica another one, etc. james On 3/2/2009, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: It is clear to me and I have no problems with the language. The section that states ³the potential of translocally networked spatial practices² could have been more simply written, however it is clear in what it says that the research is engaging the potential of networked practices by practitioners who are interested in spaces that transcend the local (the way it was originally written was better). The next section, which states ³urban network processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of cultural participation and self-determination² is equally clear. Urban network processes are events that occur in urban environments within the network infrastructures of which such environments are composed (communications and transport are examples). Geocultural crises are crises that are caused by geocultural issues. This is shorthand for the post-colonial politics around access to land based resources by different cultural groups (Gaza is an example here, as is Darfur). I do not see what the problem is with the sub-phrase ³cultural participation and self-determination². It seems clear as it seeks to conflate the individuation of self (the forging of self) with participation in social activities (that is, the self depends on others to come into being). Sites of ³alternative urban engagement² simply refers to places where non-normalised social activities can be pursued and social groupings can form that facilitate those who do not conform to dominant social norms (eg: raves, biker cafes, hardcore clubs, etc). The last three words are, I agree, a little confusing. What is the object of the phrase ³emerging architectural cultures². Does this refer to cultures composed of architects or to cultures that are shaped by architecture? I would assume the latter, but the grammar employed here is, I agree, not very clear. Overall the text is clear and in its linguistic form usefully suggests what its cultural origins are (left intellectual academic). The text as a whole clearly states that its concern is with who gains access to and rights of definition of social and economic infrastructure in culturally contested urban spaces and what the implications are for the communities and individuals involved. Where is there a problem with that? Regards Simon On 3/2/09 10:23, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Mez, Does it mean something? Bob From: mez breeze netwur...@gmail.com To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Monday, 2 February, 2009 23:26:34 Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something? hi bob [+ assorted netbehaviouralists].. bob, i'm curious as 2 by u're assuming that the text ur quoting is muddy in terms of comprehension/meaning? do u think the terminology is inappropriate or unclear? chunks, mez On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:33 AM, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Yann, The other day someone posted on this list about a project that was a research platform... on the potential of translocally networked spatial practices. The project, it was claimed, investigates urban network processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of cultural participation and self-determination in which sites of alternative urban engagement are collected on a database as research into emerging architectural cultures. Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
I think the text was less concerned with a fictional environment, such as a sci-fi future, and rather more with our current situation. Different communities of people communicate with one another in different ways. Indeed, the way we communicate is a prime determiner of community. There are lots of different sub-cultural groups many of us encounter on a daily basis who we cannot understand. There are even mainstream groups who are difficult to comprehend. I live in Scotland and am at a loss to understand many of those around me, especially those that employ local dialect. I do not understand the way they speak nor the things they are referring to (my ignorance is of both language and culture). However, although I am unlikely to expend much energy seeking to understand them (I rarely find I need to) I have no issues with them communicating as they see fit. They probably find it hard to understand me as well. When we need to communicate we have enough common language we can do so. However, I am not of their community nor are they of mine. Ofelia Garcia and others have referred to these linguistic social dynamics as pluriliteracies ( http://www.tc.columbia.edu/faculty/kleifgen/tech_n_lit/PluriliteraciesFinal. pdf ). As they observe in this paper, literacy itself is a contested area. Very few of us are truly illiterate although it is the case that some people do not have competence in the communicative systems that our societies routinely demand of us. It is just the case that a person¹s competence might not be in an area useful for mainstream social interaction. Other¹s might have a number of competencies, capable of communicating in a variety of dialects or languages. Most of us have some sort of capability beyond our main domain of literacy, whether it is an understanding of mathematics, a second language, computer programming or familiarity with a local dialect. As such most of us are effectively pluriliterate. Regards Simon On 3/2/09 12:32, james of jwm-art net ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: The text as a whole clearly states that its concern is with who gains access to and rights of definition of social and economic infrastructure in culturally contested urban spaces and what the implications are for the communities and individuals involved. It kind of suggests to me, a sci-fi future, superficially utopian, but dystopian beneath the surface, a massive split in society between those that control and the rest (particular genre, logans run or something more recent (a film with clones, 2000+), gattica another one, etc. Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
Mez, Does it mean something? Bob From: mez breeze netwur...@gmail.com To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Monday, 2 February, 2009 23:26:34 Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something? hi bob [+ assorted netbehaviouralists]. bob, i'm curious as 2 by u're assuming that the text ur quoting is muddy in terms of comprehension/meaning? do u think the terminology is inappropriate or unclear? chunks, mez On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:33 AM, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Yann, The other day someone posted on this list about a project that was a research platform on the potential of translocally networked spatial practices. The project, it was claimed, investigates urban network processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of cultural participation and self-determination in which sites of alternative urban engagement are collected on a database as research into emerging architectural cultures. By contrast, your text is eloquence personified. I really wouldn't worry about it. Bob -- : http://augmentology.com : http://knott404.blogspot.com : http://netwurker.livejournal.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
i think simon just ably demonstrated why putting things in 'a more everyday, comprehensive lanuguage, was/is problematic: you need four times the amount of words to say the same thing. why write 'i put my pen on the table' when you could write 'i put my plastic-and-ink-writing-tool' on the 'wooden-platform-held-up-on-four-wooden-legs'? cos the former is simpler than the latter. accessibility is good up to a point: but introduce lifts into multi-storey buildings for the aid of the disabled and you also create the knock-on effect of making the able-bodied less fit and lazier by giving them an effort-free mechanism of going upstairs. much better for the body - and mind - to take the stairs as before. yeah, the language isn't easy to grasp, but the effort of doing so is probably more rewarding than the effort of simplifying at-first-inaccessible academic prose. 2009/2/3 bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk Simon, Thanks for the translation, it's fortunate you're on the list! Don't you think the text, drafted in a language largely understandable by academics, is guilty of the very thing it claims to be researching? That is, how and why people are excluded from contested spaces? If the text spoke in a more everyday, comprehensible language do you think it might invite wider engagement? Language is power. Often to exclude or oppress, no? Bob -- *From:* Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk *To:* NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 February, 2009 11:52:17 *Subject:* Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something? It is clear to me and I have no problems with the language. The section that states the potential of translocally networked spatial practices could have been more simply written, however it is clear in what it says – that the research is engaging the potential of networked practices by practitioners who are interested in spaces that transcend the local (the way it was originally written was better). The next section, which states urban network processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of cultural participation and self-determination is equally clear. Urban network processes are events that occur in urban environments within the network infrastructures of which such environments are composed (communications and transport are examples). Geocultural crises are crises that are caused by geocultural issues. This is shorthand for the post-colonial politics around access to land based resources by different cultural groups (Gaza is an example here, as is Darfur). I do not see what the problem is with the sub-phrase cultural participation and self-determination. It seems clear as it seeks to conflate the individuation of self (the forging of self) with participation in social activities (that is, the self depends on others to come into being). Sites of alternative urban engagement simply refers to places where non-normalised social activities can be pursued and social groupings can form that facilitate those who do not conform to dominant social norms (eg: raves, biker cafes, hardcore clubs, etc). The last three words are, I agree, a little confusing. What is the object of the phrase emerging architectural cultures. Does this refer to cultures composed of architects or to cultures that are shaped by architecture? I would assume the latter, but the grammar employed here is, I agree, not very clear. Overall the text is clear and in its linguistic form usefully suggests what its cultural origins are (left intellectual academic). The text as a whole clearly states that its concern is with who gains access to and rights of definition of social and economic infrastructure in culturally contested urban spaces and what the implications are for the communities and individuals involved. Where is there a problem with that? Regards Simon On 3/2/09 10:23, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Mez, Does it mean something? Bob *From:* mez breeze *netwur...@gmail.com* *To:* NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity * netbehavi...@netbehaviour.org* *Sent:* Monday, 2 February, 2009 23:26:34 *Subject:* Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something? hi bob [+ assorted netbehaviouralists].. bob, i'm curious as 2 by u're assuming that the text ur quoting is muddy in terms of comprehension/meaning? do u think the terminology is inappropriate or unclear? chunks, mez On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:33 AM, bob catchpole *bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk* wrote: Yann, The other day someone posted on this list about a project that was a research platform... on the potential of translocally networked spatial practices. The project, it was claimed, investigates urban network processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of cultural participation and self-determination in which sites of alternative urban engagement are collected on a
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
On 3 Feb 2009, at 10:52, Simon Biggs wrote: It is clear to me and I have no problems with the language. The section that states “the potential of translocally networked spatial practices” translocational potential of networked spacial practices ? this strain raises an interesting opportunity to discuss the nature of mail groups. is this a space for announcements ? from my reading so far, net behaviour does not seem like an announcement list, rather an experiment. informal lists are vital threshing grounds for the development of ideas, but also for personal development within disciplines which an individual may be dislocated from, if even in an extreme level of profoundity. making a comparison between blogging, website publication, online text archives and the group mailing list, it seems that the nature of the group mailing list is far better suited to development rather than announcement - it's just as easy to access a personal, creative, organisational or events website which - even if it is an undeveloped blog by means of aesthetic - holds an equal capacity to relay more refined publishable materials. could have been more simply written, however it is clear in what it says – that the research is engaging the potential of networked practices by practitioners who are interested in spaces that transcend the local (the way it was originally written was better). The next section, which states “urban network processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of cultural participation and self-determination” is equally clear. Urban network processes are events that occur in urban environments within the network infrastructures of which such environments are composed (communications and transport are examples). Geocultural crises are crises that are caused by geocultural issues. This is shorthand for the post-colonial politics around access to land based resources by different cultural groups (Gaza is an example here, as is Darfur). I do not see what the problem is with the sub- phrase “cultural participation and self-determination”. It seems clear as it seeks to conflate the individuation of self (the forging of self) with participation in social activities (that is, the self depends on others to come into being). Sites of “alternative urban engagement” simply refers to places where non- normalised social activities can be pursued and social groupings can form that facilitate those who do not conform to dominant social norms (eg: raves, biker cafes, hardcore clubs, etc). The last three words are, I agree, a little confusing. What is the object of the phrase “emerging architectural cultures”. Does this refer to cultures composed of architects or to cultures that are shaped by architecture? I would assume the latter, but the grammar employed here is, I agree, not very clear. Overall the text is clear and in its linguistic form usefully suggests what its cultural origins are (left intellectual academic). The text as a whole clearly states that its concern is with who gains access to and rights of definition of social and economic infrastructure in culturally contested urban spaces and what the implications are for the communities and individuals involved. Where is there a problem with that? Regards Simon On 3/2/09 10:23, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Mez, Does it mean something? Bob From: mez breeze netwur...@gmail.com To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Monday, 2 February, 2009 23:26:34 Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something? hi bob [+ assorted netbehaviouralists].. bob, i'm curious as 2 by u're assuming that the text ur quoting is muddy in terms of comprehension/meaning? do u think the terminology is inappropriate or unclear? chunks, mez On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:33 AM, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Yann, The other day someone posted on this list about a project that was a research platform... on the potential of translocally networked spatial practices. The project, it was claimed, investigates urban network processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of cultural participation and self-determination in which sites of alternative urban engagement are collected on a database as research into emerging architectural cultures. Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
On 3 Feb 2009, at 13:31, richard willis wrote: i think simon just ably demonstrated why putting things in 'a more everyday, comprehensive lanuguage, was/is problematic: you need four times the amount of words to say the same thing. why write 'i put my pen on the table' when you could write 'i put my plastic-and- ink-writing-tool' on the 'wooden-platform-held-up-on-four-wooden- legs'? the chemical fluctuations in the matter which has come to be known as my brain, provides me with pleasurable impulses whilst regarding correlations of coloured light which form the shapes resembling the combinations of the latin alphabet seen above cos the former is simpler than the latter. accessibility is good up to a point: but introduce lifts into multi-storey buildings for the aid of the disabled and you also create the knock-on effect of making the able-bodied less fit and lazier by giving them an effort- free mechanism of going upstairs. much better for the body - and mind - to take the stairs as before. yeah, the language isn't easy to grasp, but the effort of doing so is probably more rewarding than the effort of simplifying at-first- inaccessible academic prose. 2009/2/3 bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk Simon, Thanks for the translation, it's fortunate you're on the list! Don't you think the text, drafted in a language largely understandable by academics, is guilty of the very thing it claims to be researching? That is, how and why people are excluded from contested spaces? If the text spoke in a more everyday, comprehensible language do you think it might invite wider engagement? Language is power. Often to exclude or oppress, no? Bob From: Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Tuesday, 3 February, 2009 11:52:17 Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something? It is clear to me and I have no problems with the language. The section that states the potential of translocally networked spatial practices could have been more simply written, however it is clear in what it says – that the research is engaging the potential of networked practices by practitioners who are interested in spaces that transcend the local (the way it was originally written was better). The next section, which states urban network processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of cultural participation and self-determination is equally clear. Urban network processes are events that occur in urban environments within the network infrastructures of which such environments are composed (communications and transport are examples). Geocultural crises are crises that are caused by geocultural issues. This is shorthand for the post-colonial politics around access to land based resources by different cultural groups (Gaza is an example here, as is Darfur). I do not see what the problem is with the sub- phrase cultural participation and self-determination. It seems clear as it seeks to conflate the individuation of self (the forging of self) with participation in social activities (that is, the self depends on others to come into being). Sites of alternative urban engagement simply refers to places where non- normalised social activities can be pursued and social groupings can form that facilitate those who do not conform to dominant social norms (eg: raves, biker cafes, hardcore clubs, etc). The last three words are, I agree, a little confusing. What is the object of the phrase emerging architectural cultures. Does this refer to cultures composed of architects or to cultures that are shaped by architecture? I would assume the latter, but the grammar employed here is, I agree, not very clear. Overall the text is clear and in its linguistic form usefully suggests what its cultural origins are (left intellectual academic). The text as a whole clearly states that its concern is with who gains access to and rights of definition of social and economic infrastructure in culturally contested urban spaces and what the implications are for the communities and individuals involved. Where is there a problem with that? Regards Simon On 3/2/09 10:23, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Mez, Does it mean something? Bob From: mez breeze netwur...@gmail.com To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Monday, 2 February, 2009 23:26:34 Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something? hi bob [+ assorted netbehaviouralists].. bob, i'm curious as 2 by u're assuming that the text ur quoting is muddy in terms of comprehension/meaning? do u think the terminology is inappropriate or unclear? chunks, mez On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:33 AM, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Yann, The other day someone posted on this list about a project that was a research platform...
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
Yes, that¹s better still. On 3/2/09 13:47, benjamin benja...@cultura3.net wrote: The section that states ³the potential of translocally networked spatial practices² translocational potential of networked spacial practices ? Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Eco-scope
Happy Birthday! C Eco-scope is a communication tool that provides a context for discussing environmental affairs, acknowledging by its structure the importance of participation in any meaningful solutions that can be imagined. Last week Marc and I were interviewed by Andy Deck of Transnational Temps (creators of Eco-scope) about our take on media art and ecology. Eco-scope is currently featured in a touring exhibition called Ecomedia - Ecological Strategies in Today's Art. The variety of ways in which conversations can be retrieved and redistributed via Eco-scope is very powerful. The viewer of the archive can read a straight transcript of the conversation or they can control the speed of the chat replayed through the interface- this allows them to speed-read for an impression of the discussion or to take their time and follow up links. Archive of interview with Marc (man with his head in a box), Ruth (Eco-Fury-Budica-monkey hybrid) and Andy Deck(sea lion). http://tinyurl.com/b5eh4h Transnational Temps http://www.transnationaltemps.net/ Eco-scope http://eco-scope.org/ Ecomedia exhibition http://www.edith-russ-haus.de/english/ecomedia.html ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
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On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM, richard willis listse...@richtextformat.co.uk wrote: why write 'i put my pen on the table' when you could write 'i put my plastic-and-ink-writing-tool' on the 'wooden-platform-held-up-on-four-wooden-legs'? Theory would render this as the phallic vehicle of the sublimated desire to smear the nursery walls with shit transgressed the aporia between the numinous nexus of physicality's duration and the plane of possibility's rigid lack, consisting in and without the object petit a through the remainder of this concatenation, though. ;-) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
Thank you Simon for pointing out the obvious (I guess it needed to be done). As for those whose eyes glaze over at the sight of unfamiliar language - how do we learn anything to begin with if we shut off every time we hear something unfamiliar. When we ridicule those using a different vocabulary than we are used to (or want to bother with) we're really saying that, unless you use the words that I know already then I'm not listening. btw. what the hell does your text is eloquence personified mean? ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Intelligent Agent 9.1 CFP
Intelligent Agent Magazine Issue 9.1: Art in Virtual Worlds The Age of “All at Once” Since the turn of the millennium, an increasing amount of effort has been placed in the exploration of art in virtual worlds from first-person shooters to Massively Multiuplayer Online Roleplaying Games like World of Warcraft and worlds such as Opensim and Second Life. Even in the last year, Artists like Cao Fei and Stephanie Rothenberg have exhibited Second Life works in the Venice Bienniale and Sundance New Horizons, to name a few. Why are virtual worlds a “hot” medium for contemporary art? What issues are being evoked by the coming of these online agoras, and are they redefining the cultural functions of art? The art world, as mentioned by painter Jay Van Buren, is “everywhere, all at once”. In addition, the coming of the global economic downturn has caused groups like NYC-based ArtistsMeeting.com to ask the community what will become of the foundering art world in the post-boom landscape. Are we just now sets of web 2.0-baed “surf clubs” as Olson et al have suggested, and are groups like Paperrad, the Cute Show, and NastyNetsemblematic of the time? Has culture become a truly flat, rhzomatic playing field with no central dialogues, has it become cellular, or is the culture of non-direction created an era of indistinctness, where the cultural impact of a Youtube video may rival that of a Murakami? Are Lolcats and Weezer's “Pork and Beans” as indicative of contemporary culture as a Murakami panel? Scholarly texts, essays, artist's works and missives are welcomed. Deadline for proposals: Mar. 1 Deadline: Apr. 15 About Intelligent Agent: Intelligent Agent is a service organization and information provider dedicated to interpreting and promoting art that uses digital technologies for production and presentation. Through its online magazine and programs, Intelligent Agent provides a platform of critical discourse for discussing issues relevant to digital media, their social and cultural impact, and the parameter shifts they have brought about for the arts. Publisher: Christiane Paul, Adjunct Curator of Digital Art, Whitney Museum of American Art, NYC Editor-in-Chief: Patrick Lichty, Assistant Professor, Interactive Arts Media, Columbia College Chicago ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
btw. what the hell does your text is eloquence personified mean? shoutsrob!/shouts can you translate that for us please? cheers mate ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] 3 New Featuress on Furtherfield Feb 3rd - 09.
ooops - features not featuress ;-) marc 3 New Featuress on Furtherfield Feb 3rd - 09. www.furtherfield.org Transmediale.09 Deep North. By Giles Askham. Transmediale.09 Deep North Festival purports to construct an impression of the polar regions as a place that can be imagined but never truly captured. In seeking to move beyond prevailing notions of catastrophic environmental change and to examine its broader cultural consequences, the festival aims to adapt and explore creative technologies and point the way to political transformation and creative sustainability. Permlink - http://www.furtherfield.org/displayreview.php?review_id=334 A PRACTICE WITHOUT DISCIPLINE. by Franz Thalmair. In 2005 Peter Moertenboeck and Helge Mooshammer initiated the Networked Cultures project, a research platform on the potential of translocally networked spatial practices. Interviews, exhibitions, films and presentations are the many forms they collaborate on architecture, art and theory projects and investigate urban network processes, spaces of geocultural crises, and forms of cultural participation and self-determination. Permlink - http://www.furtherfield.org/displayreview.php?review_id=332 The Sound of Ebay. By KIm De Vries. The Sound of eBay completes UBERMORGEN.COM's trilogy that also includes Amazon Noir and Google Will Eat Itself (GWEI)(1). In order to understand the significance of this work, a brief look at recent Net.Art history is helpful. The Sound of eBay seems far significant than it might at first glance. In this project we see the artists' efforts to get beyond the merely subversive, the superficially interactive, and aesthetically crude work that typified earlier Net.Art. However, I decided to actually ask UBERMORGEN.COM member, Hans Bernhard what they had been aiming to do... /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\---sum more info below---/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Reviews, interviews articles: http://www.furtherfield.org/reviews.php About Furtherfield: Furtherfield.org believes that through creative and critical engagement with practices in art and technology people are inspired and enabled to become active co-creators of their cultures and societies. Furtherfield.org provides platforms for creating, viewing, discussing and learning about experimental practices at the intersections of art, technology and social change. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
Hi list I agree with Bob, and I don't really think it's about intolerance to unfamiliar words at all. Actually, it's the exact opposite: when reading such over-complexified prose, I feel like : hey, I've already read similar blah blah thousand times before !. And I feel so familiar with the usual lack of thought hidden behind these kinds of pseudo-concept aggregation that I don't even try to read carefully to see if the whole thing is actually insightful... To me (and I think Karl Popper also said something similar :) ), as a corollary (hehe), clever thoughts can almost always be written with common words and simple sentences. btw. what the hell does your text is eloquence personified mean? I think it more or less means : your text is to eloquence what the other one is to confusion Don't know if it's more clear... :) +++ Clément On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:03 PM, mark cooley flawed...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you Simon for pointing out the obvious (I guess it needed to be done). As for those whose eyes glaze over at the sight of unfamiliar language - how do we learn anything to begin with if we shut off every time we hear something unfamiliar. When we ridicule those using a different vocabulary than we are used to (or want to bother with) we're really saying that, unless you use the words that I know already then I'm not listening. btw. what the hell does your text is eloquence personified mean? ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] More Merry Fun of Avatar Identity Inhabitation
More Merry Fun of Avatar Identity Inhabitation Pseudo-Gaz inhabited by Julu (Julu-inhabited Gaz) animated by Julu animation altered mocap files (Julu-altered-mocap-animated Gaz). Odd and elegant, as part of Gaz' celebration giving hir avatar away (Julu-received Gaz-avatar) of course with Julu name (Julu-named Gaz). http://www.alansondheim.org/ julugoesgaz (7 pngs) Then later in another area of Second Life, looking in the distance - http://www.alansondheim.org/ odysseyfromafar (2 pngs) (What would Heidegger say about building and dwelling here? In the air? In the body of another? Compare and contrast.) ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Does it mean something?
Linguistic inclusion and exclusion is the primary concern of the theorists working on pluriliteracy studies I mentioned before. But those dynamics work in both directions. Sometimes people use particular linguistic forms because they do wish to exclude and not just the powerful but also the supposedly powerless (eg: gang parlance). People do not need to read Foucault to instinctively understand the relationship between language and power. That said, we all employ linguistic forms specific to our communities, shaped by our needs. There is nothing instrinsically wrong with specialised language, if it is serving a purpose. If its purpose is to exclude that is one thing. If it is to be precise and efficient that is another. Sometimes the latter purpose can find it hard to avoid the former. I think there is also a (possibly natural) requirement upon everyone who is able to remain vigilant to how meaning might be made anew. By this I mean we all need to remain learning individuals so long as we are capable. I do not think it need be a requirement on others to ensure they are understood by those who cannot be bothered to learn. When there is a special need then there is a clear case for this, but otherwise...yes, when you have the need there is a duty to learn and develop the capacity to understand. It is self-improvement. Simon On 3/2/09 13:11, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Simon, Thanks for the translation, it's fortunate you're on the list! Don't you think the text, drafted in a language largely understandable by academics, is guilty of the very thing it claims to be researching? That is, how and why people are excluded from contested spaces? If the text spoke in a more everyday, comprehensible language do you think it might invite wider engagement? Language is power. Often to exclude or oppress, no? Bob Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] anti-bodies launch event.
anti-bodies launch event. Launch and discussion event: Thursday 19 February 6.00 - 8.00pm Arnolfini, 16 Narrow Quay, Bristol BS1 4QA Free / advance booking essential / drinks afterwards T: 0117 917 2300 / 01 E: boxoff...@arnolfini.org.uk www.arnolfini.org.uk Anti-bodies: beyond the body ideal explores different attitudes to the body. It contrasts the particularity of the artist's body-concept against the ideal body-machine of the Olympic athlete, so revealing underlying idealisations of the body as they are reproduced within different everyday social contexts. The programme takes the form of a series of contemporary art projects. These are developed for different cultural contexts and produced by organisations based in the south west of England, in collaboration with national and international partners. The Interaction programme includes a website, an online open submission and presentation platform Open Anti-Bodies, a youth initiativeYoung Anti-Bodies, events, discussion, and resources. Anti-Bodies seeks to encourage critical engagement with international art and extend notions of context-led working and participation in the wider social realm. The programme is scheduled to run until 2012. At the launch event, curators and producers currently involved in Anti-Bodiespresent the projects they are developing: Helen Cole, Arnolfini , Bristol; Geoff Cox/Joasia Krysa, Kurator , with Luis Silva, LX 2.0 // Lisboa 20 Arte Contemporanea, Lisbon, Portugal; Sara Black, ProjectBase , Cornwall; Paula Orrell, Plymouth Arts Centre; Nicola Hood, Spacex , Exeter, with Lee Callaghan/Ben Ponton, amino , Newcastle upon Tyne. With responses from: Dr Paul Darke , artist and producer, Lois Keidan, director of the Live Art Development Agency , London, Keith Khan, producer and former Head of Culture London 2012, and Dr Paul O'Neill, artist-curator and GWR Research Fellow, Situations , University of the West of England. Moderated by Zoe Shearman, Relational . The Anti-bodies programme has been developed and is co-ordinated by Relational, with support from Arts Council England. It has been granted the London 2012 Inspire mark as part of the Cultural Olympiad. For more information, visit http://www.anti-bodies.net/ The website is under construction. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Turbulence | ShiftSpace Commission: Yeas and Nays by Christian Croft
February 3, 2009 Turbulence | ShiftSpace Commission: Yeas and Nays by Christian Croft http://www.shiftspace.org/spaces/yeas-and-nays/ http://turbulence.org/works/shiftspace Yeas and Nays is a browser plug-in that transforms any webpage into a means for contacting Congressional representatives. It is the latest functionality added to Shiftspace.org, an application that provides an open source layer above any website. Yeas and Nays is a powerful tool that translates knowledge into action. By invoking the Yeas and Nays interface -- which calls elected representatives -- readers can respond immediately to the issues they care about. Their phone calls are recorded so that others can learn to articulate their views effectively. Yeas and Nays was awarded first place in the The ShiftSpace Commissions Program (http://turbulence.org/works/shiftspace), a 2007 commission of New Radio and Performing Arts, Inc., (aka Ether-Ore) for its Turbulence web site. It was made possible with funding from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs. ShiftSpace provides a new public space on the web. By pressing the [Shift] + [Space] keys, a ShiftSpace user can invoke a new meta layer above any web page to browse and create additional interpretations, contextualizations and interventions -- which are called Shifts. Users can choose between several authoring tools -- called Spaces -- that allow web users to annotate, modify and shift the content of a page and through ShiftSpace, share that shift with the rest of the web. Trails are maps of shifts (shiftspace content) that create meta-layer navigation across websites. These trails might be used as a platform for collaborative research, for curating net art exhibitions, or as a way to facilitate a context-based public debate. BIOGRAPHY As an artist in an age of exponential information growth, CHRISTIAN CROFT'S work harnesses public data flows, filtering their contents to reveal changes in how people communicate. His work translates information trails into new and often contrary spaces to highlight the sociological influence of new technologies. Croft's production methods include web programming, DIY electronics, rapid prototyping machinery, and telephone system networking. His work has been shown at The Kitchen Summer Institute, Centre Pompidou, Georgia Museum of Art, Athens Institute of Contemporary Art (ATHICA), Rhizome Artbase, EYEBEAM Upgrade!, SIGGRAPH 2007, and Conflux 2007. Jo-Anne Green, Co-Director New Radio and Performing Arts, Inc.: http://new-radio.org New York: 917.548.7780 . Boston: 617.522.3856 Turbulence: http://turbulence.org Networked_Performance Blog: http://turbulence.org/blog Networked_Music_Review: http://turbulence.org/networked_music_review Upgrade! Boston: http://turbulence.org/upgrade New American Radio: http://somewhere.org ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] YouTube's January Fair Use Massacre.
YouTube's January Fair Use Massacre. Commentary by Fred von Lohmann. This is what it's come to. Teenagers singing Winter Wonderland being censored off YouTube. Fair use has always been at risk on YouTube, thanks to abusive DMCA takedown notices sent by copyright owners (sometimes carelessly, sometimes not). But in the past several weeks, two things have made things much worse for those who want to sing a song, post an a capella tribute, or set machinima to music. First, it appears that more and more copyright owners are using YouTube's automated copyright filtering system (known as the Content ID system), which tests all videos looking for a match with fingerprints provided by copyright owners. Second, thanks to a recent spat between YouTube and Warner Music Group, YouTube's Content ID tool is now being used to censor lots and lots of videos (previously, Warner just silently shared in the advertising revenue for the videos that included a match to its music). EFF, along with many other public interest groups, have repeatedly expressed our concerns to both copyright owners and YouTube about the dangers of automated filtering systems like the Content ID system. These systems are still primitive and unable to distinguish a tranformative remix from copyright infringement. So unless they leave lots of breathing room for remixed content, these filters end up sideswiping lots of fair uses. And that's exactly what has happened these past few weeks. And while today it's Warner Music, as more copyright owners start using the Content ID tool, it'll only get worse. Soon it may be off limits to remix anything with snippets of our shared mass media culture -- music, TV, movies, jingles, commercials. That would be a sad irony -- copyright being used to stifle an exciting new wellspring of creativity, rather than encourage it. It's clear from the Warner Music experience that YouTube's Content ID tool fails to separate the infringements from the arguable fair uses. And while YouTube offers users the option to dispute a removal (if it's an automated Content ID removal) or send a formal DMCA counter-notice (if it's an official DMCA takedown), many YouTube users, lacking legal help, are afraid to wave a red flag in front of Warner Music's lawyers. That's a toxic combination for amateur video creators on YouTube. more... http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/01/youtubes-january-fair-use-massacre ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Optronica in LA
My video Optronica was selected at International Festival of Cinema and Technology, Los Angeles. http://www.ifct.org/ifctshortsexperimental.html All the best, Paulo ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
