Re: [NetBehaviour] The Pirate Bay to roll out secure EUR5 per month VPN service.

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Zeltner
2009/4/1 Yvonne Martinsson yvo...@freewheelin.nu:
 In fact, I'm very disappointed. Not about the trial, but about Pirate Bay.
 As it turns out, the guy who has supported Pirate Bay financially, is a
 millionaire and a (former) member of the organization Keep Sweden Swedish, a
 neo-Nazi organization here.

What's his name? I'd be interested to look further into it. There's
always a strange correlation between file sharers, free speech
advocates and fascists.

 The others have had no income for years, have
 high tax debts and are in general of the opinion that you don't have to
 contribute to society. Hard to believe that they've had no income with lots
 of advertising and loads of visitors.

Ah, actually, if you add up the people that actually click the ads
(which in case of the TPB, I can see how it wouldn't be so many as
there's generally more technically advanced people in there who might
have adblockers installed), I can't imagine that you're getting that
much money out of it. If you add server costs (TPB is 'the world's
largest BitTorrent tracker' or so they say), I can definitely see how
they wouldn't have a huge income at all.

 They're, in my view, nothing but
 neo-liberal profit-seeking egos. Nothing else. No activism as far as I can
 see. It makes me wonder about file-sharing and activism. Does it go without
 saying that a site like Pirate Bay is 'good'? In any case, nothing is black
 and white.

TPB isn't directly about activism, never was - they specifically split
from the group that deal with activism (Piratbyrån) and always held a
more rough waving middle fingers in the air approach to the whole
copyright issue. They are certainly part of a trend, but as far as I
heard from interviews and conversations with people that surround the
project, not as profit oriented as for example the Dutch Mininova
(which according to Wikipedia have a revenue of €1 million). I could
be wrong though and they're even more anti-establishment than is
already visible :)

The better groups to look for activism are definitely Piratbyrån and
the Piratpartiet. The Piratbyrån actually sees itself as more of an
art project - I wish I had a recording of the brilliant performance
they gave in Vienna last year to elaborate on what that could mean,
but I'll have to ask a few friends where the material is first.

I'll post the recording on here if it's uploaded anytime soon, or if I
happen to remember :)

Michael
-- 
http://niij.org/

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Re: [NetBehaviour] The Pirate Bay to roll out secure EUR5 per month VPN service.

2009-04-03 Thread Rob Myers
Michael Zeltner wrote:
 
 What's his name? I'd be interested to look further into it. There's
 always a strange correlation between file sharers, free speech
 advocates and fascists.

Err no there isn't. At least not a coterminous one.

- Rob.



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Re: [NetBehaviour] The Pirate Bay to roll out secure EUR5 per month VPN service.

2009-04-01 Thread Yvonne Martinsson
Hi,
I'm neo-new to this list. Been here before, but left and am now back.

As I'm Swedish and have been able to follow the Pirate Bay trial, I'd like
to fill in here.

In fact, I'm very disappointed. Not about the trial, but about Pirate Bay.
As it turns out, the guy who has supported Pirate Bay financially, is a
millionaire and a (former) member of the organization Keep Sweden Swedish, a
neo-Nazi organization here. The others have had no income for years, have
high tax debts and are in general of the opinion that you don't have to
contribute to society. Hard to believe that they've had no income with lots
of advertising and loads of visitors. They're, in my view, nothing but
neo-liberal profit-seeking egos. Nothing else. No activism as far as I can
see. It makes me wonder about file-sharing and activism. Does it go without
saying that a site like Pirate Bay is 'good'? In any case, nothing is black
and white.

http://freewheelin.nu

Yvonne


2009/3/28 marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org

 The Pirate Bay to roll out secure EUR5 per month VPN service.

 Those behind The Pirate Bay have introduced IPREDator, a VPN service
 aimed at keeping users anonymous and safe from being tracked by law
 enforcement. The service is slated for launch at the same time as the
 Swedish Intellectual Property Rights Enforcement Directive (IPRED),
 which will make it easier for content owners to directly target
 suspected copyright infringers with lawsuits.

 By Jacqui Cheng.

 The Pirate Bay is planning to launch a paid VPN service for users
 looking to cover their tracks when torrenting. The new service will be
 called IPREDator, named after the Swedish Intellectual Property Rights
 Enforcement Directive (IPRED) that will go into effect in April.
 IPREDator is currently in private beta and is expected to go public next
 week for EUR5 per month.

 IPREDator is clearly a response to the introduction of IPRED in Sweden,
 which will allow law enforcement and copyright holders to request the
 personal details of suspected infringers. The copyright holders will
 then be able to make direct contact with the accused users and
 presumably threaten them with lawsuits.

 If users connect to The Pirate Bay through something like Tor or VPN,
 however, they're less likely to be tracked. IPREDator's website says
 that it won't store any traffic data, as its entire goal is to help
 people stay anonymous on the web. Without any data to hand over,
 copyright owners won't be able to find individuals to target.

 This, of course, is likely to irk law enforcement even further, as it
 has been on The Pirate Bay's case for years. Some three years after
 Swedish police raided the site and confiscated its servers, a few of The
 Pirate Bay admins finally went on trial for copyright infringement
 earlier this year. The world is still awaiting the verdict (expected to
 arrive on April 17), though those behind The Pirate Bay maintain that
 what they're doing is entirely legal. In fact, Pirate Bay spokesperson
 Peter Sunde Kolmisoppi said during the trial that 80 percent of The
 Pirate Bay's torrents are for content that's legal to share online.

 more...

 http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news/2009/03/the-pirate-bay-to-roll-out-secure-vpn-service.ars

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