Re: Mystical issue with NetBSD and opening Russian Bank site chelinvest.ru

2022-11-02 Thread Dmitrii Postolov

On October 22, I informed the technical support of the bank, they

 said that they would transfer it to specialized specialists, but they 
no longer contacted me.


02.11.2022 13:43, Martin Husemann пишет:

On Wed, Nov 02, 2022 at 07:53:21AM +0500, Dmitrii Postolov wrote:

On NetBSD 9.3_STABLE and FF-ESR (102.1.0, latest version from binary
repository cdn.netbsd.org/.../9.0_current) while trying to open this site,
endlessly spinning progress and the site does not open.

Sounds like a bug on the website (probably because it does not know your
user agent string and assumes some random mobile device).

I would open developer tools in firefox (F12), switch to the "Console"
Tab and reload the page.

There probably will be errors shown there. Report them to the webmaster
of the page.

Martin


Re: Mystical issue with NetBSD and opening Russian Bank site chelinvest.ru

2022-11-02 Thread Martin Husemann
On Wed, Nov 02, 2022 at 07:53:21AM +0500, Dmitrii Postolov wrote:
> On NetBSD 9.3_STABLE and FF-ESR (102.1.0, latest version from binary
> repository cdn.netbsd.org/.../9.0_current) while trying to open this site,
> endlessly spinning progress and the site does not open.

Sounds like a bug on the website (probably because it does not know your
user agent string and assumes some random mobile device).

I would open developer tools in firefox (F12), switch to the "Console"
Tab and reload the page.

There probably will be errors shown there. Report them to the webmaster
of the page.

Martin


Re: Mystical issue with NetBSD and opening Russian Bank site chelinvest.ru

2022-11-02 Thread Dmitrii Postolov
Thanks to All! But unfortunately, I could not finish success with this 
site with all 3 recommendations: disabling ipv6, prohibiting cookies for 
this site and changing the user-agent. Probably the solution to the 
problem will be the use of FreeBSD. I apologize for the concern. :-(


02.11.2022 07:53, Dmitrii Postolov пишет:
Topic: Mystical issue with NetBSD and opening Russian Bank site 
chelinvest.ru


Hi! Sorry for my bad English...

The NetBSD version: 9.3_STABLE 02 Nov 06:28 +05 2022

I am client of Russian Bank Chelyabinvestbank. His website is 
https://chelinvest.ru
This website successfully opens on FreeBSD and FF-ESR with settings by 
default

and redirection occurs to https://chelinvest.ru/?ckattempt=1

On NetBSD 9.3_STABLE and FF-ESR (102.1.0, latest version from binary 
repository cdn.netbsd.org/.../9.0_current) while trying to open this 
site, endlessly spinning progress and the site does not open.


In rare instances if force site adress to 
'https://chelinvest.ru/?ckattempt=1'
this site is successfully open on NetBSD, but it is very rare. 
Basically, this site under NetBSD never opens.


Mystical issue is that open this site in another PC with FreeBSD and 
after that go to the separate PC with NetBSD and trying to open it, 
then site https://chelinvest.ru successfully opens on NetBSD and 
FF-ESR for for a while but after some time the problem repeats again.


The package mozilla-rootcerts-openssl is installed on both systems and 
I try to manually install the package openssl on NetBSD, but this did 
not solve the problem.


Please, help me to solve this problem...

P.S. OpenBSD has a similar problem with this site, so only FreeBSD 
successfully opens it with default settings.




Re: Mystical issue with NetBSD and opening Russian Bank site chelinvest.ru

2022-11-02 Thread MJ




On 2/11/2022 1:53 pm, Dmitrii Postolov wrote:

Topic: Mystical issue with NetBSD and opening Russian Bank site chelinvest.ru

Hi! Sorry for my bad English...

The NetBSD version: 9.3_STABLE 02 Nov 06:28 +05 2022

I am client of Russian Bank Chelyabinvestbank. His website is 
https://chelinvest.ru
This website successfully opens on FreeBSD and FF-ESR with settings by default
and redirection occurs to https://chelinvest.ru/?ckattempt=1

On NetBSD 9.3_STABLE and FF-ESR (102.1.0, latest version from binary repository 
cdn.netbsd.org/.../9.0_current) while trying to open this site, endlessly 
spinning progress and the site does not open.

In rare instances if force site adress to 'https://chelinvest.ru/?ckattempt=1'
this site is successfully open on NetBSD, but it is very rare. Basically, this 
site under NetBSD never opens.

Mystical issue is that open this site in another PC with FreeBSD and after that 
go to the separate PC with NetBSD and trying to open it, then site 
https://chelinvest.ru successfully opens on NetBSD and FF-ESR for for a while 
but after some time the problem repeats again.


I'm no web expert BUT this seems like a cookie issue. Once FreeBSD saves/stores 
the cookie and that is verified by the other end, the remote system doesn't 
know that the next PC you use is running NetBSD so it permits you to continue. 
It then fails because of a cookie timeout of something. This implies the cookie 
can in no way be related to certificates (well you'd damn well hope so!), so 
your thoughts of certificates is probably correct; they are not the problem.

So, are there any add-ons to FF? Look at permissions of the directory firefox 
saves its cookies into.
Cheers
MJ



Re: Mystical issue with NetBSD and opening Russian Bank site chelinvest.ru

2022-11-02 Thread RVP

On Wed, 2 Nov 2022, Dmitrii Postolov wrote:


The NetBSD version: 9.3_STABLE 02 Nov 06:28 +05 2022

I am client of Russian Bank Chelyabinvestbank. His website is 
https://chelinvest.ru
This website successfully opens on FreeBSD and FF-ESR with settings by 
default

and redirection occurs to https://chelinvest.ru/?ckattempt=1

On NetBSD 9.3_STABLE and FF-ESR (102.1.0, latest version from binary 
repository cdn.netbsd.org/.../9.0_current) while trying to open this site, 
endlessly spinning progress and the site does not open.

[...]
P.S. OpenBSD has a similar problem with this site, so only FreeBSD 
successfully opens it with default settings.




Maybe the site doesn't like your User-Agent string (some sites are
confused by anything other than Windows, MacOS or Linux in them).

Fake a different one using a User-Agent Switcher extension from
https://addons.mozilla.org/

-RVP