Re: nettime Gender and You
Feminism is not the same as women, maybe not about most of them either. It addresses a fairly small set of some women's interests, and some of those women extrapolate their interests to women in general. And a small number of men use this as a means to presume to know what women are and, to be sure, want, that is, they want to be a certain kind of men pretending to be women of a certain kind, most often brainy show-offs. Similarly malism, or masculism, is not the same as men, and definitely is not about most men, but addresses the interests of a few men who extrapolate their interests to men in general. A small number of women use this as a means to presume to know what men are and, to be sure, want, that is they want to be kind of women pretending to be men of a certain kind, most often brainy show-offs. An even smaller number of women and men toy with becoming faux men and women, pretending like mad, utilizing narrow interests and perceptions abstracted from real women and real men in general which cannot be known in their generality but only by selective abstract positings based on limited direct acquaintance -- customarily only familiarity with a few hundred actual experiences and maybe ten to a hundred times that amount by way of study of the gender topic (once lumped as the humanities, oh the humanities). Queerism attempts to surpass all too easy feminism and masculism -- which incorrectly identify feminism with women and masculism with men. The vagina and the phallus are conjoined in the anus ashitting during penetration, abirthing congealed philosophy, or art, aboriginal, pre-verbal, farting precursing argument and song. Yes, there is a cartesian incertainty, gratitude at being alive, upon delivering a pile or puddle of feces, contributing to the earth's refertilization, sui generizing triumphantly, autoerotic coitus if comical to see in toilet mounted video. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
RE: nettime Disordered thinking through the origin oflanguage
Words, coherent language, came from god, and if that anti-scientific premise is offensive, recall that the earliest philosophers, Thales et al in western canonicism, others earlier in Asia and Africa, argued that coherent language came from a humiliating sense of wonder, wonder at astonishing events which could not be explained by simple survival needs. Posting god as a devious humanizing of the sense of wonder for propounding manipulative religion, should not preclude non-deist apprehension of coherent language deriving from origins not easily explained with the narrow conceits of everyday-everyman science, the simplistic, again deviously anthropocentricizing pseudo-science, call that the humanities unable to bear absolute uncertainty and doubt about the human as the center of existence, much less the humiliation of nature indifferent to humanoids. Language is a cry for significance, whether sung or spoken, that the poets got right and the philosophers must forever question what's the point, Thales' ur-query why, the least animal concern. Fear, terror, anxiety about death, grief, loss, and ecstacy about love, beauty, courage, surely, as noted earlier, well up in the chest, and become bleats, hollers, and wails of recognition and affirmation or denial. Animals emit some of those oral superfluities, as well as dance and play. It is the superfluity of language, its overflow beyond what is needed to survive that points to an origin in imagination. Sartre and others have argued that imagination is what uniquely identifies the human but that it is also what condemns the human to eternal prison of its own making: the desire to be god. Would god have invented such a being, you bet if god is posited by a human seeking escape from mortality, ano imaginary concocted for aesthetic diversion. Thinking is another inexplicable human devousness. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
Re: nettime hear ye, hear ye... truce for NNA discussion
Yes, the NNA report was somewhat informative but smeared, obscured, lipsmacked by the trivial sidebar complaint. What fear, of what or whom? Truce for what, a minor snit sniffle, piffle? And what is this illiteracy about stars and the little nobodies aching to lick their shriveleds as if condemned to it by trepidation. That stinks of abject student trolling the profs, whimpering where there is no need except by the protection of embracing secondary status. Turn not thy tender belly up for mercy, bite whatever barks at you, real or imaginary, or threatens or bluffs, yeah, it must be about bluffing, pretending to be terrified or worse, bored, at no longer masterful or fed up with being slavish. Fuck that and that and me. Elpeda where art thou to stiletto this whining and regretting the old days chickenshittish, lollygagging procrastinating, side-eyeing the medal giving head patters for effect. Backroom chat is servantish carping about disrespect when the house needs burning, weeping throats inviting slitting, your own mostso. No truce, no mercy, no overdone respect for anybody. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
Re: nettime The Sudden Stardom of the Third-World City
There is hardly a better prescription for dreaming of suicide, by cities, persons or ideoligies, than comfortable success and lack of a need to struggle to survive. The invention of the Third World brand came from the mental laziness non-western intellectuals and political ideolgues grown soft from the luxury of being treated as exotics by the west -- so long as they only intellectualized and ineptly agitated politically and posed no serious threat. Dollops of overt and covert funding assured the dogs of ample feedings and preenings, not lost on domestic curs seeking the same from their caretakers and pervasive spies and turncoats. When all goes well, whether western or eastern, or lately African and South American, daydreams of ending it all oneself rather than being tortured and murdered, as if there is a correspondence between nightmares imposed on others and aesthetic murder of one's ego, or intellectual guilt of distancing from direct guilt of doing harm by way of impotently attacking the doers of crimes against humans. Third World is hoary nomenclature of world bankism or worse, UNism, promise without substance, so it is no wonder it has become a star powerfully attacting celebrity do nothings -- hardly limited to aging rock stars, say, where Hugo Chavez's luxurious accommodations are concerned, it's a tourist magnet, oh my, Che, what a come down to t-shirts and trickets in a VE mall. Third World was peopled by political rock star academics and indies looking for replacement funding for the petered out Cold War brand, now seeking alternatives to the threadbare Viet Nam schtick, the civil and human rights carcasses, the ethnic, feminist, negritude, marxian flayed corpses. Meanwhile, western cities have continued to rot with untended pathologies, sustained by the greatest number of spies and police and largest military and military-addicted economies ever in history. Vile and villainous neighborhoods so overplayed by the media that nobody wants to squander a career looking at the failure of generations of promises at home for a better and safer homeland, and thus embarassing the erstwhile leaders of the poor who promised to lead their people better than alien insensitive outsiders, and where there is as much evidence for intellectual dishonesty as can be found outside the countries which must spawn critics and apologists or be judged uncivilized by perfectly mirrored other critics and apologists. It will be come increasingly fashionable to argue that the poor can do a better job of helping themselves than unreliable outsiders. That is a predictable cycle which follows failed intentions of good hearts when funding disappears -- except for last gasp efforts to justify abandoning the needy. And fat-gutted outsiders will become so bereft of purpose that suicide becomes highly appealing -- in the abstract, burp. Call it Camusian, rebel without cause. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
Re: nettime Use of Computers in Preschools
A fair amount of this critique of computer use is applicable to business, government, education, religion and so on. The seniors, call them leaders, see computers only as tools to maximize worker productivity and for open and covert surveillance. They do not use them to set policy except to gather data for justifying and enforcing will of the wisp phantasies of maintaining control. Teachers are not exception to the hypnotic appeal of empowerment by subterfuge, whether by catatonizing television, authoritarian lecture notes and books (required listening, reading, testing, submitting, ass-licking mentoring, grotesque letters of reference offering an obesequious candidate, or fucker, or executor of diabolist schemes). What transfixes computer users, especially those imagining empowerment through the Internet, is what readies them for easy manipulation by way of easily acquired, indeed subsidized, tools which appear to expand individual prowess while enslaving -- the military pilot of weapons platforms is no different than the blackest hat hacker, nor are those different from the ideologists of machine dependency who gleefully encourage the malleable to believe in their boxes and push-buttons liberating efficacy. Give them medals and life-time achievement awards for preaching not what they do but what they want others to do innumerably. A wireless globe,that's a gob of merchandising missionarianess fit for a new world subscription. Track every user and yank the threat-string of being excommunicated, silenced, unsubbed, game over, pornless, a la Saint Augustine, at the first lost signal of trying to evade EM-pandemia. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
Re: nettime Notes on Netporn
The operator of the war porn site Dery cites has been arrested: http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm6544_20051008.htm The ex-cop's web site, NowThatsFuckedUp.com, continues to offer cutting edge repugnant carnage ribaldry of the kind popularized by lit and flic of crime-war-faith fantasies worldwide for all times. Criticism porn, king tut-tut. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
Re: nettime Just do it! - Intellectual theft as a curatorial
There is nothing beyond happenstance convention which assures a creator credit, recognition, monetary payment, praise, security from appropriation. Much, perhaps all, of the argument in the exhortive post is that used by commercial approriators, thieves and bandits, their henchpersons and sharks, who invoke lop-sided convention to lay claim to creative work, cloaked, as ever, in the mantle of defending near-helpless creators, few of whom enjoy the fruits of convention, and always much less than the upper levels of the copyright heirarchy forever raving about the way things should be: like they want them to be. Blessed are those who defy this priestly argument for protection of innocents unable to protect themselves without divine intervention from rot-crotched belly-achers hoping to divert attention from their back-channel predations. To be sure, artists and ever more surely, curators, rip off creators. So what. Rip them off in return. Diatribes against ripoff are capable of being entertaining, in a dumb and dumber mode. No artist deserves anything except what they can beg, borrow and steal. Intellectuals deserve nothing except one another. Defenders of artists and intellectuals are up to no good. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
Re: nettime Southeast Asia Tsunami and the Effective ...
What is disturbing about lack of information from the South Asia tsunami is whether allegedly missing persons being memoralized by nations of origin with candlelights and moments of grieving, are dead, injured, or merely unaware they are preceived to be missing and thus do not contact those who fear they are dead, or more likely, do not wish to be found and placed in yet another official databank. I know of three such persons who were quite surprised and violated in their privacy by obnoxious inquiries from those determined to leave no tern unstoned to satisfy purient dread and lascivious certainty that they must learn the horrific facts first hand. No matter that their inquiries set into motion nasty searches of private lives and deliberately concealed tracks and hiddent whereabouts -- this was paradise the lost had been seeking, away from the meddlers and watchers and checkers-up-oners. The three I know about had went to the South Asia for pleasures not all together acceptable, or easily acceptable, back in the homelands. This did not set well with the pryers into other people's lives who leapt at the chance to override the privilege of escapism. Are the authorities in South Asia doing the missing a favor to claim them such, turning a blind eye to customarily invited piccadilloes until the sated escapees decide to transform themselves back into upright citizens with nothing to hide? The three I know won't say who they know is missing on purpose, as customary when off the grid of violative information. Merely ask that don't do it again, come spying and squealing on us. Those outed can say, tsunami was it this time, how strange that megasexual locution of sublime ecstacy is misapplied by faux grievers of floodlike sorrow, panhandling maximum. To be sure, the millennialists and armageddonists will have a field day declaring god panoptics the hedonists, wrathing the sublimity a ratchet heavenword. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
Re: nettime Will Rational Exuberance Prevail?
No doubt the thing to do is to relax, don't overly fret about the US election outcome, why bother to organize, do legwork, serve on dreary election committees, seek out and listen to those who you've never spoken to as an equal to learn from them what's eating their gizzards, to hear what they think of laid-back thinkers and indolent fingerpointers and supremacist whiners and ever so condescending shits, sure, best to herdishly blame those who do these get together and work hard to elect their own kind. It's smart to stay clear of the mess, that way there's no culpability, no risk, no need to give up prejudice about the consumerist luts, easy to lay low and work the previleged angles of those who really love the sweatless perks. That's the aristocratic way, argue the finer points of powedered wigs, the curve of calf, the vulgarity of the ingrate peasantry. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nettime Choking Cuban writers
What is troubling is that the US is singling out Cuba for economic warfare while doing its damnest to promote economic bear-hugging other socialist and ropgue states, presumably on the premise that economic well-being will persuade the citzenry to vote with their pocketbooks by buying and consumiong US products and services -- mirroring the Western mindset. All hail the surveilling Internet and its ideology-free pop-ups and spam. With Cuba there appears to be a sclerosis of imagination, mirroring, perhaps, that of the aging Cuban leaders. Do the two sides need one another to remain immutable as did the Cold Warriors? Not many Americas give a shit about what happens to Cuba, out of sight out of mind. For that reason a small group of anti-Castroites can get their jollies hammering a moribund state at the expense of those who live under it. Not many anti-Castroites in the US seem to give a shit about most Cubans, but they adore their rancid ideology. What unrestricted intellectural discourse, if not fat-headed tourism, could accomplish is the exchange of new ideas to replace the dreary remnants of the Cold War -- still being milked by lead-assed ideologues for economic benefit and to avoid having to get a new mindset. All praise for the 75 Cuban intellectuals and journalists who bucked their system -- it would be nice to have a similar percentage of our mind-workers do the same in the US: risk jail and execution for defying their source of steady income. Not just pretending to do so by tickling the imaginary sensitivities of bullheads, but performing genuinely criminal acts. To be sure the US justice system and prison industry are eager for this development, Patriot Act-primed. The odds of civil disobedience becoming criminal in the US is not at hand, the 60s cauterized sensitivies, and thus there is not much to be said of intellectual courage in America, harmless aestheticization of ideology is paramount -- pays damn swell, what with galleries and theaters and think-not centers abounding. Admiring Fidel awaits Broadway splashdown -- distancing mindwork set to music and dance, then a blockbuster at the Met to purge whatever slight empathy for the world's poor remain in salons of democratic and socialist and democratic socialist and liberative wordgames bountiful. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nettime Choking Fidel and Us
The Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control has issued for public comment new restrictions on travel to Cuba with increased penalties for violations. The proclaimed intent is to harm Cuba's economy by reducing income from tourism and educational travel. http://cryptome.org/fac061604.htm It would be helpful if non-US nations increased promotional efforts for tourism and educational travel to Cuba. All persons might wish to comment on the proposed nastier interference in Cuban sovereignty. This action has come in response to Bush's Cuba study commission, instituted to recommend US actions to undermine the Cuban government. The committee issued its report in early May: http://www.state.gov/p/wha/rt/cuba/commission/2004/c12237.htm Lebbius Woods, an architect and Cooper Union professor, who defied Cuba travel restrictions is being hounded by Treasury for payment of a $75,000 fine, with salary and other income at threat from the obsessed free marketers. Lebbius is showing recent work in his new book, The Storm and The Fall, on June 26 at the Center for Architecture, 536 La Guardia Place, NYC, 6:30-8:30PM, with party at 9:00 PM the same day, at his studio 80 Nassau Street, in downtown Manhattan. For the party, RSVP to 212-227-5079. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
