Re: nettime Landscape Painting of the Information Age

2005-05-23 Thread Christina McPhee
John Haber has just come out with an essay on representation of data as 
'digital landscapes'  that thinks through some interesting complexitie
- http://www.haberarts.com/cyborg.htm#diaries

He asks about the 'truth' in data representation and discusses narrative 
and memory in this context.

following through a discourse on Carrizo-Parkfield Diaries, Casey Reas, 
Sol LeWitt, and Kysa Johnson.

 Every trace attests to an absence, the presence that left its 
 impression in memory. Database-driven art, too, attests to 
 dissociation and loss. Like a mask, it becomes a repository of signs =
 unmoored from their source, now in the disorienting setting of a flat =
 panel and a hidden central processor. Like documentary photography, it
 can numb by sheer repetition, now at a lightning pace. Like painting, =
 it promises a higher reality, but now in the virtual space of 
 science-fiction scenarios. Like all of these, it creates an 
 architecture of the past, even when it most claims to authenticate the
 present.
=A0=09
  The film in question is  SALT , online at 
http://www.christinamcphee.net/slipcity/texts/salt.html


Christina McPhee

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Re: nettime Landscape Painting of the Information Age

2005-05-21 Thread Murphy
 The only artist, as far as I know, who
 literally creates landscape painting of the
 information age is Wolfgang Staehle.

Herr Ding grumbled something in German when he read this then went out 
to stand on a rocky shore contemplating the sublime. Or maybe he just 
went to get coffee.

He creates, to use Flusser's term, technical images -- surfaces that 
are dependent on linear text. While they are technically sophisticated 
that isn't the first thing you notice about them and I'm sure many 
people think the real-time projections are videos. In this sense he is 
very much in the tradition of Church and other Hudson River landscape 
painters and like Church he controls where, when and how his work is 
seen. Because of this the work doesn't have the overbearing aura of 
digital art that other similar work does. Then again, he's just as 
much in the tradition of the text and language arm of Conceptual art 
as, say ,Lawrence Weiner. That's a sweet spot to be in.

Oh, BTW: Free Asher B. Durand's Kindred Spirits from Wal-Mart's evil 
clutches!

Robbin Murphy
The Thing, Inc.
459 West 19th Street
New York, NY 10011
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RE: nettime Landscape Painting in the Information Age

2005-05-21 Thread ryan griffis
more projects to add to this list:
http://www.c5corp.com/projects/landscape/index.shtml
http://paglen.com/pages/projects/carceral/index.htm


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Re: nettime Landscape Painting of the Information Age

2005-05-20 Thread matthew fuller

Also on the topic of the visual meshing of landscape and informatic 
processes, another project worth viewing is Susan Collins' project, 
'Fenlandia':

From May 2004, webcams are being installed in various sites - rural and 
technological - in Silicon Fen (East Anglia), Silicon Valley (M4 Corridor) 
and Silicon Glen (Scotland) for 12 months each.

  The webcams are harvesting images pixel by pixel, recording at different 
rates over the course of the year. Each image is collected from top to 
bottom and left to right in horizontal bands continuously, marking visible 
fluctuations in light and movement throughout the day and being archived 
at two hour intervals. A selection of these images are displayed and 
updated regularly in the archive section of this website.

http://www.susan-collins.net/fenlandia




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Re: nettime Landscape Painting of the Information Age

2005-05-20 Thread david garcia
Romanticism was a rebellion against the utilitarian stance of the 
enlightenment project, in which the world of nature was an emanation of 
spirit. Both a political and an artistic movement the romantics believed 
that art and poetry could restore the world to us by revealing what was 
behind it.

But modernists in their turn repudiated romanticism, not only because the 
development of urbanised and technological society had marginalised the 
nature and landscapes of Herzen, Wordsworth, Freiderich and Constable etc 
with their peasants depicted living in sybiosis with nature (no calloused 
hands and summary evictions here). The spiritless world view of science 
had evolved beyond simple machanics expanding to envelope the life 
sciences. Moreover modernism also registered a deeper shift in the sense 
of how we understand nature. The Romantic notions of nature as a 
benifiscent spiritual reality came to be replaced by something closer to 
Schopenhauer?s a great amoral force ?nature red in tooth and claw?. These 
and other strands too complex to enumerate here came together to make the 
romantic view of nature in the contemplative sense which Armin refers to 
as untenable.

Many modernists defined themselves (and continue to) as anti-romantic Also 
in method. To reject the romantic stance was also to reject the epiphanies 
of being. High modernism produces a poetics which strips away the aura of 
things, including the aura of the artist as romantic hero.

Interestingly this repudiation of the romantcism gives rise to a profound 
poetics of its own which Roger Shatutuck has described as a poetics of 
?juxtopisition?. This approach is to my mind more illuminating for our 
networked media than unproblematised versions of romanticism articulated 
thus far in this thread. To simplify (over simplify I know) the methods 
developed by the modernists *make things appear* or *to bring them into 
presence* Not in the sense of the old romantic language of being, whereby 
the object portrayed expresses a deeper reality; rather the illumination 
occurs *between elements* . ?Its as though the words or the images set up 
between them a force field which can capture a more intense energy?.

The romantics are an inescapable part of our heritage and a source of who 
we modern westerners are (the good and the terrible) and although it is 
true that this part of our heritage is often overlooked and falsified any 
act of recuperation should also include a fuller account of the good 
reasons why Romanticism was repudiated.

David Garcia


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Re: nettime Landscape Painting of the Information Age

2005-05-20 Thread philip pocock
i remember in simon schama's book 'landscape and memory' his part about 
the word landscape and its dutch root 'landschapen' excuse my spelling, 
and that is akin to the german landschaft - land= land(eng) 
schaffen=produce/make(eng). it was linked by schama to the root of 
landscape painting in mapping and the desire of aristocracy to picture 
their possessed land (in close-up).

with this idea of landscape as a sort of mapping system, having little 
to do with raw nature or wilderness, but being a sort of imperial 
cultural product, there are many works online relating to mapping, one 
involving wolfgang, currently off-line and hopefully back on - humbot, 
produced some years back.

a link between landscape vis a vis  land art and telecommunication art 
could also be made, and there are works with varying amounts of success 
that approach networks as landscapes, geo-political, mapping, even 
gardens.

philip pocock


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nettime Landscape Painting of the Information Age

2005-05-19 Thread Armin Medosch
[This is another contribution to the Open Nature catalogue. I think it 
may also vaguely  relate to the Ghost in the Network thread. cheers, 
armin]

Landscape Painting of the Information Age 
or Romanticism In Media Art
Armin Medosch

In England, France and Germany during the age of 
rapid industrialisation a new direction in art 
emerged, romanticism. While the first modern 
factories were built the children of the middle 
class played out Arcadian fantasmagories dressing 
up as shepherds and shepherdesses in an idealized 
Greece.1 By playing those Arcadian games they did 
not only imitate and mock the aristocracy, they 
also asserted themselves as the rising new class. 
Angry young men stomped through the Swiss and 
German mountain forests writing revolutionary 
poems and plays2. It was a time of great social 
upheaval. Working classes were formed by driving 
peasants off common land. Owning neither land nor 
capital, the only way of making a living for the 
rural poor was moving to the cities and selling 
their labour to capitalist factory owners.3 Over 
the  very same period of time landscape painting 
was 'discovered' as an art form. A 'naturalistic' 
approach to landscape painting had never before 
played a big role in European art. At the very 
time when the countryside vanished behind the 
smoking chimneys of the Industrial Revolution art 
reconstructed  Nature as a mirror for the 
aspirations of the noble mind. 

As the schizophrenia of modernity settled in, 
nature became a very fertile ground for the 
imagination. Romanticism emerged from the 
contradiction of  trying to be one with nature 
and feeling to be fundamentally separated from 
it. Nature was being objectified by the making-
doing of the industrial revolution and its loss 
at the same time mourned in the arts. The search 
for nature contained also a political question. 
When the romantic youth contemplated nature, they 
could see, in the shape of the mountain ridges, 
in this frozen moment of time, the powerful 
forces at work that were reshaping the world. In 
romanticism wild nature symbolized the political 
changes of the time. Could nature give an answer 
to ethical questions, could there be a 'natural' 
form of government, was then the theme of many 
debates? Rosseau constructed a noble savage, 
externalizing the European confusion, as a type 
of human more in tune with nature than the 
urbanized citizens of France. As a psychological 
entity, the noble savage is very much in effect 
still today, having gone through all the cliches 
of Hollywoodization and advertisement treatment.

European intellectuals turned away -- in a move 
they will repeat again and again -- from the 
city. The dirty and overpopulated cities were 
conceived as the seat of all evil. This is where 
political struggles and revolutions were fought, 
where the police state was enforced, where new 
diseases were bread and could spread rapidly 
because of the proximity of people living so 
closely together. The city was the place of new 
forms of social coercion, of alienation, of being 
repressed. Only in contact with nature, suitably 
refashioned and aestheticized,  the citizens of 
the 19th century could get in contact with the 
true, the divine self. Romantic landscape 
painting created nature as a window to the self, 
a subjectivity that is transcended by opening 
itself up to nature. 

Nature and society, the city and the countryside 
were at odds with each other. The English 
Enlightenment produced a compromise solution. On 
the relatively small and relatively overpopulated 
part of the British Isles that is England 
'natural' countryside had almost ceased to exist. 
The English park was invented, a nature that is 
better than nature, an idealistic version of it, 
combed and groomed to look natural in a desired 
way. Nature survives as an artefact, a theme park 
of itself, which reflects the taste of rich 
landowners. 

Romanticism has never really left the arts, even 
if it, as an official  movement, petered out 
somewhere at the end of the 19th century. But the 
basic attitude of the romantic hero -- her or his 
fundamental opposition to bourgoise society, 
which they were also so deeply part of -- 
survived, and so did the trope of 'wild nature' 
as a mirror of psychological and socio-political 
conflict. The romantic hero is a tragic hero 
because he or she has not understood the 
contradictions of the society s/he is part of. A 
repressive social situation will always trigger 
escapist fantasies. Rejection of society as it is 
and idealistic protest either leads to death, 
which salvages the hero status, retreat into 
Arcadia = the hippie commune or the third way 
solution of getting a post in academia. There 
were very few traditions in the contemporary art 
of the last 100 years which were not romanticist 
or did not have a romantic streak, namely those, 
which were explicitely revolutionary and 
analytical. The romantic hero survived in the art 

Re: SV: nettime Landscape Painting of the Information Age

2005-05-19 Thread Thomas Keenan
In the summer of 2004 the New York-based artist Laura Kurgan exhibited 
four large prints based on data collected by commercial earth-observation 
satellites, at the Whitney Museum at Altria in New York City. She called 
the work Monochrome Landscapes. The New Yorker magazine reviewer wrote 
(issue of 5 July 2004): Laura Kurgan's digital satellite photographs of 
landscapes reduced to monochrome fields provide a glimpse of how 
transporting both visually and conceptually art based on digits can be.

- Tom Keenan

On Thu, 19 May 2005, Thomas Petersen wrote:

 The only artist, as far as I know, who
 literally creates landscape painting of the
 information age is Wolfgang Staehle.

 Here's a couple of quite literal digital landscapes:

 Monochrome Landscapes
 www.crossover.dk/landscape


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