get ready to hate me.

2002-11-20 Thread Herb Peyerl
So I initially joined this list a few weeks ago to ask a question
about mhstore.  I got the very helpful answer I was looking for 
and solved my problem.

Now I need to unsubscribe from the list. Having run mailing lists for
12 years or so, I'm not your average newbie.  I've tried the following:

echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
echo unsubscribe nmh-workers | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
echo | mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
echo unsubscribe nmh-workers | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(the last, just in case this is actually majordomo in hiding).

In theory, and according to the website, the 3rd one should have
worked correctly.

I've checked my maillogs and the mails were accepted and in the case
of the last one, did get a bounce.

According to the logs that hadn't rotated yet:

Nov 18 00:31:38 grok sendmail[22166]: gAI0VVC22164: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
ctladdr=hpeyerl (/0), delay=00:00:07, xdelay=00:00:07, mailer=esmtp, pri=30047, 
relay=mononoke.mhost.com. [209.96.178.231], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (gAI0ptQ00073 Message 
accepted for delivery)
Nov 19 16:46:42 grok sendmail[25273]: gAJGkZ125271: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
ctladdr=hpeyerl (/0), delay=00:00:07, xdelay=00:00:07, mailer=esmtp, pri=30059, 
relay=mononoke.mhost.com. [209.96.178.231], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (gAJH79Q17946 Message 
accepted for delivery)

Sorry to be a weenie, but can someone help me deal with this or can
someone unsubscribe me? If it's the case that the above requests are
pending human intervention and that human is busy, then I apologize
profusely.


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Re: Improving attachment viewing

2002-11-20 Thread Jon Steinhart
 Where we're had to move away from nmh towards gnus is in MIME
 composition (e.g. for the ability to specify inline/attachment).

You might want to look at the attachment stuff that I checked in a while
back.  I implemented it in such a way that it could easily be incorporated
into MH-E.  The short summary is that you can specify the names of attachments
using a header field, and send handles invoking mhbuild as required to
package everything up before sending.  Anno has been extended to assist in
managing the header fields.

 It might be nice to be able to output a character in a scan column if
 attachments are present.  MH-E could even replace that character with a
 paperclip glyph or something to pretty it up.

Seems to me that my notion of scanning attachments is getting the most
attention here, even though it's not the most important part to me.  My
main interest is in being able to read attachments in a more consistent
way.  Maybe an example would help...

Right now, a session looks like this:

% inc
 scan output

% show
 (oh, this looks like a multipart message)

% mhlist
% mhshow -part 1
% mhshow -part 1.1
% mhshow -part 2
 (...)
% next
...

What I'd like to be able to do is:

% inc
 scan output
% show
% next
 (show first part of current message)
% next
 (show next part of current message)
% next
 (...)
% next
 (show first part of next message)

Jon




Re: The continuing install-mh saga

2002-11-20 Thread Jerry Peek
On 19 November 2002 at 16:35, Jon Steinhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd like to see an indented
 scan that shows something like
 
 5785+ 11/19 Eric Gillespie   Re: The continuing install-mh sagaJon Steinhar
  .1   image/jpeg
  .2   image/jpeg
 
 ant then be able to do show/next/prev on stuff.

This is only part of what Jon wants, but it might be useful to some
people: use sort -m to merge the outputs of scan and mhlist.  The
way this works by default (with no tweaking from a little script)
isn't perfect, but it's pretty good.  Here's an example:

$ scan last:4  scan.out
$ cat scan.out
7767 U11/10 To:jpeek   NYTimes.com Article: A New Platform for the New 
7768 U11/10 To:jpeek   NYTimes.com Article: Generic Version of Acne Dru
7769 U11/10 new_articles@info  Stuart McClure Shares Web Security Tips for Syst
7770+U11/10 To:jpeek   NYTimes.com Article: Bill Gates to Tour India Am

$ mhlist last:4  mhlist.out
$ cat mhlist.out
 msg part  type/subtype  size description 
7767   text/plain2066
7768   text/plain1101
7769   multipart/alternative  29K
 1 text/html  28K
 2 text/plain 366
7770   text/plain6825

$ sort -nm +0.0 -0.4 scan.out mhlist.out
 msg part  type/subtype  size description 
7767   text/plain2066
7767 U11/10 To:jpeek   NYTimes.com Article: A New Platform for the New 
7768   text/plain1101
7768 U11/10 To:jpeek   NYTimes.com Article: Generic Version of Acne Dru
7769   multipart/alternative  29K
 1 text/html  28K
 2 text/plain 366
7769 U11/10 new_articles@info  Stuart McClure Shares Web Security Tips for Syst
7770   text/plain6825
7770+U11/10 To:jpeek   NYTimes.com Article: Bill Gates to Tour India Am


Jerry
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Re: Improving attachment viewing

2002-11-20 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Jon Steinhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Where we're had to move away from nmh towards gnus is in MIME
  composition (e.g. for the ability to specify inline/attachment).
 
 You might want to look at the attachment stuff that I checked in a while
 back.  I implemented it in such a way that it could easily be incorporated
 into MH-E.

Great, Thanks.

  It might be nice to be able to output a character in a scan column if
  attachments are present.  MH-E could even replace that character with a
  paperclip glyph or something to pretty it up.
 
 Seems to me that my notion of scanning attachments is getting the most
 attention here, even though it's not the most important part to me.

Sorry, I know.  I was really only commenting on the MH-E implications.
We could use a MIME attachment marker in scan output, but we won't be
using any nmh method to display message parts since we do that part in
elisp.  So go ahaed and add features in order to better display MIME
parts from the shell (that's great!), but we won't need nor use them in
MH-E.
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Re: Improving attachment viewing

2002-11-20 Thread David Chin

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jon Steinhart 
writes:

 
 Seems to me that my notion of scanning attachments is getting the most
 attention here, even though it's not the most important part to me.  My
 main interest is in being able to read attachments in a more consistent
 way.  Maybe an example would help...
 
 Right now, a session looks like this:
 
   % inc
scan output
   
   % show
(oh, this looks like a multipart message)
   
   % mhlist
   % mhshow -part 1
   % mhshow -part 1.1
   % mhshow -part 2
(...)
   % next
   ...
 
 What I'd like to be able to do is:
 
   % inc
scan output
   % show
   % next
(show first part of current message)
   % next
(show next part of current message)
   % next
(...)
   % next
(show first part of next message)

Hmm. I'm afraid I disagree about this redefinition of next.  Currently, I 
don't need to do individual mhshows if I just want to sequence through all 
the parts:  just show, and keep hitting Return, or Ctrl-C to skip a part.

Cheers,
Dave
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Re: nmh 1.1?

2002-11-20 Thread coolman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It has been fixed.  I was just grousing that the fix has been in CVS for
  a couple years but not in the Redhat distributions.
 
   Rather than grouse, switch to Debian GNU/Linux: nmh 1.0.4+dev-20010317-1

But grousing is so much more fun! :)

I guess I'll have to be patient.  I don't think my employer would like me
to install a different distribution than everybody else (though they don't
care if I update nmh myself because I'm probably the only one who uses it).


-Paul





Re: Improving attachment viewing

2002-11-20 Thread Jerry Peek
Jon Steinhart wrote:


If I get a message with 20 photos
attached, I hate having to hit Ctrl-C 20 times just to get to the next
message.



I'm not disagreeing with you ;-), Jon... the interface *is* klunky. 
But, FWIW, Ctrl-\ will abort showing the current message.

Jerry
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