[NTG-context] Re: How to improve appearance of bars in frac, sqrt, etc. on screens?
On 6/13/2024 10:04 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Ralph, I don’t see any pixels in the PDF file when I typeset your code snipet (on MacOS 11.7.10). Here is what I get. No problems on windows on chrome-os either. Mikael S and I checked it on his linux box and one can indeed see anti aliasing when taking a screen dump (depends on resolution). So it's a linux rendering issue when taking dumps. That said: we can't do anything about it. Using rules (traditional approach) is pretty bad in screen dumps and even regular rendering, depending on zoom; there one has interaction between the font rendering and other graphic elements (rules). Btw, vertical extensibles are not different (take the bracket which has similar constructs). Interesting is that it is straight blob connections that can show these occasional gray pixels and it only seems to happen with a little overlap. Kind of a bug we think. Hans ps. One reason when I always use (x)ubuntu when i have to use a linux desktop is that it always was set up right wrt rendering fonts and anti aliasing. I might need to check that. - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: How to improve appearance of bars in frac, sqrt, etc. on screens?
Hi Ralph,I don’t see any pixels in the PDF file when I typeset your code snipet (on MacOS 11.7.10). Here is what I get.Best regards: Otared
fraction-bar-pixels.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
On 13 Jun 2024, at 13:10, Ralph <ralph.2...@email-postfach.info> wrote:
Hello,
I’m relatively new to ConTeXt (version 2024.05.31, LMTX,
standalone) and really enjoy learning it so far, but I have one
little problem with the appearance of horizontal bars in math
mode.
It seems the way ConTeXt displayed horizontal extensible bars in
math mode some time ago (as used in \frac, \sqrt, \overbar, ...)
was similar to the way LaTeX (PDFLaTeX and LuaLaTeX) and Plain
TeX handled this, but it has changed since then. Instead of one
bar there are now multiple characters attached to each other.
This makes it look more consistent with the font, but
unfortunately it doesn’t display well in any PDF viewer I’ve
tried (on Linux, so I’ve not tried Adobe Acrobat Reader). The
bars look dotted, I guess it’s due to anti-aliasing (the dots
disappear when anti-aliasing is disabled, but then of course
everything looks pixelated). Two screenshots are attached
(different zoom levels in PDF viewer) so that you know what I’m
talking about.
Source:
\setuppapersize[S3]
\starttext
\startformula \sqrt{a^2 + b^2} = \frac{1000 \cdot c}{1000}
\stopformula
\stoptext
Is there a way to switch to the old bars for documents viewed
mainly on screens, or is there any other way to improve their
appearance? I couldn’t find any documentation on this, so I
would be very thankful if somebody here could help out.
Best,
Ralph
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[NTG-context] How to improve appearance of bars in frac, sqrt, etc. on screens?
Hello,
I’m relatively new to ConTeXt (version 2024.05.31, LMTX, standalone) and
really enjoy learning it so far, but I have one little problem with the
appearance of horizontal bars in math mode.
It seems the way ConTeXt displayed horizontal extensible bars in math
mode some time ago (as used in \frac, \sqrt, \overbar, ...) was similar
to the way LaTeX (PDFLaTeX and LuaLaTeX) and Plain TeX handled this, but
it has changed since then. Instead of one bar there are now multiple
characters attached to each other.
This makes it look more consistent with the font, but unfortunately it
doesn’t display well in any PDF viewer I’ve tried (on Linux, so I’ve not
tried Adobe Acrobat Reader). The bars look dotted, I guess it’s due to
anti-aliasing (the dots disappear when anti-aliasing is disabled, but
then of course everything looks pixelated). Two screenshots are attached
(different zoom levels in PDF viewer) so that you know what I’m talking
about.
Source:
\setuppapersize[S3]
\starttext
\startformula \sqrt{a^2 + b^2} = \frac{1000 \cdot c}{1000} \stopformula
\stoptext
Is there a way to switch to the old bars for documents viewed mainly on
screens, or is there any other way to improve their appearance? I
couldn’t find any documentation on this, so I would be very thankful if
somebody here could help out.
Best,
Ralph
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[NTG-context] Re: comment on the wiki
On 6/13/24 04:17, Max Chernoff wrote: > Hi Pablo (and others), > > On Wed, 2024-06-12 at 18:42 +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: >> Is there any way in which regular wiki contributions may help in >> removing the accounts or at least all the pages generated with these >> accounts? > > I also don't have deletion privileges, but I went through the recent > pages and deleted the spammy content. After sending my message, I saw that the Gardener group seems to have permissions to delete pages (not sure about user pages). I wonder whether this may constitute a formal request (for me and Max [always when he agrees]) to be considered as candidates for Gardeners. I know that this is not a privilege, but I would like to be able to remove spam from the wiki. Many thanks for your help, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: regular online meet-up
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[NTG-context] Re: Cite-proc Lua - Following up
Hi,
On Tue, 2024-06-11 at 11:38 +, hdanielhix...@gmail.com wrote:
> There is a LaTeX package called citation-style-language, backed by
> some software called citeproc-lua. The github page for the software is
> here: https://github.com/zepinglee/citeproc-lua
> I'm just wondering if there is more news about its potential
> integration with Context.
A *very* quick and hacky implementation. First, clone the repository
plus all its submodules, then apply two small patches for Lua 5.5
compatibility:
diff --git a/citeproc/citeproc-latex-core.lua
b/citeproc/citeproc-latex-core.lua
index 3057c5d..95c917a 100644
--- a/citeproc/citeproc-latex-core.lua
+++ b/citeproc/citeproc-latex-core.lua
@@ -260,6 +260,7 @@ end
local function parse_latex_seq(s)
local t = {}
for item in string.gmatch(s, "(%b{})") do
+local item = item
item = string.sub(item, 2, -2)
table.insert(t, item)
end
diff --git a/luaxml-mod-xml.lua b/luaxml-mod-xml.lua
index d40b761..bf09830 100644
--- a/luaxml-mod-xml.lua
+++ b/luaxml-mod-xml.lua
@@ -524,6 +524,7 @@ local function getAttributes(k,v)
level = level or 0
local spaces = string.rep(' ', level*2)
for k,v in pairs(tb) do
+local k = k
if type(v) ~= "table" then
local ct = k
if type(k)=="number" then
Then, install all the files somewhere where ConTeXt can find them. The
following layout seems to work:
$ tree -a $TEXMFHOME
/home/max/Projects/citeproc-lua/texmf/
├── scripts
│ ├── citation-style-language -> ../../citeproc/
│ └── lua-uca -> ../../submodules/lua-uca/src/lua-uca/
└── tex
├── generic
│ └── unicode-data -> ../../../submodules/unicode-data/
├── latex
│ └── citation-style-language -> ../../../latex/
└── luatex
├── lua-uni-algos -> ../../../submodules/lua-uni-algos/
└── luaxml -> ../../../submodules/luaxml/
12 directories, 0 files
Finally, make a new file somewhere in the "examples/" folder with the
following contents:
\startluacode
package.loaded.unicode = { utf8 = string }
package.loaded.lualibs = {}
kpse.find_file = function(name)
local path = resolvers.findfile(name)
if path == "" then
path = nil
end
return path
end
local saved_require = require
function require(name)
return saved_require(name:gsub("^[^%.]+%.", ""))
end
require("util-jsn")
local output = require("citeproc-output")
local ConTeXtWriter = output.LatexWriter
ConTeXtWriter.markups = {
["bibstart"] = [[\startitemize]],
["bibend"] = [[\stopitemize]],
["@font-style/normal"] = [[\normal{%s}]],
["@font-style/italic"] = [[\italic{%s}]],
["@font-style/oblique"] = [[\slanted{%s}]],
["@font-variant/normal"] = "[[\normal{%s}]]",
["@font-variant/small-caps"] = [[{\sc %s}]],
["@font-weight/normal"] = "[[\normal{%s}]]",
["@font-weight/bold"] = [[\bold{%s}]],
["@font-weight/light"] = "[[\normal{%s}]]",
["@text-decoration/none"] = false,
["@text-decoration/underline"] = [[\underline{%s}]],
["@vertical-align/sup"] = [[\high{%s}]],
["@vertical-align/sub"] = [[\low{%s}]],
["@vertical-align/baseline"] = false,
["@cite/entry"] = false,
["@bibliography/entry"] = [[\item %s]] .. "\n"
}
function ConTeXtWriter:write_escaped(str, context)
return string.formatters["%!tex!"](str)
end
function ConTeXtWriter:write_link(inline, context)
if inline.href == inline.value then
-- URL
return string.format([[\hyphenatedurl{%s}]], inline.value)
elseif context.engine.opt.wrap_url_and_doi then
return string.format([=[\goto{\hyphenatedurl{%s}}[url(%s)]]=],
inline.href, self:write_escaped(inline.value, context))
else
return self:write_escaped(inline.value, context)
end
end
local engine
interfaces.implement {
name = "cslinit",
public = true,
arguments = "2 strings",
actions = function(style_name, bib_file)
local citeproc = require("citeproc")
local latex_core = require("citeproc-latex-core&q
[NTG-context] Cite-proc Lua - Following up
Hello all, I hope you are well. This is my first time posting. So if I do so erroneously, I apologize. There is a LaTeX package called citation-style-language, backed by some software called citeproc-lua. The github page for the software is here: https://github.com/zepinglee/citeproc-lua It is an excellent piece of software. There was previous discussion about potentially integrating the software into Context. The following link should show a discussion that took place about the topic. https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=ntg-context@ntg.nl=subject:%22Re%5C%3A+%5C%5BNTG%5C-context%5C%5D+Citeproc%5C-lua%22=newest I'm just wondering if there is more news about its potential integration with Context. Thank you, devs, for your hard work on making the software. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] regular online meet-up
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[NTG-context] Re: missing space with French quotation
Alan Braslau schrieb am 07.06.2024 um 16:21:
I have *never* understood how this works and, in fact, have always done
weird stuff like explicitly putting a nbps before double punctuation
(:;) in my document sources. I do this as it makes the sources much
more readable, preventing my text editor from ever breaking lines
before the punctuation (and not having some space in the source looks
awkward when reading French text).
I use:
[...]
This gives proper spacing with \quotation{} and with \startquotation
... \stopquotation. Also, {\en\quotation{}} and {\de\quotation{}} in
the document correctly do not add spaces.
1. \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] takes care about the space
before/after quotation marks when you use manual quotes in a document.
It doesn't matter whether you use or don't use space between the
quotations marks and the quoted text.
begin example
\starttext
\startlines
«quoted text»
« quoted text »
\stoplines
\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
\startlines
«quoted text»
« quoted text »
\stoplines
\stoptext
end example
2. When you use the quotation command or environment ConTeXt adds a
space between the quotation marks and the quoted text by itself but in
the quotation-environment the space before the closing mark disappears
when you add \setcharacterspacing.
begin example
\language[fr]
\starttext
\startquotation
quoted text
\stopquotation
\quotation{quoted text}
\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
\startquotation
quoted text
\stopquotation
\quotation{quoted text}
\stoptext
end example
Is \setupquotation[symstyle=\resetcharacterspacing] necessary?
It's a temporary fix for the problem with the quotation environment by
disabling the characterspacing mechanism when ConTeXt places the
quotation marks.
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: missing space with French quotation
I have *never* understood how this works and, in fact, have always done
weird stuff like explicitly putting a nbps before double punctuation
(:;) in my document sources. I do this as it makes the sources much
more readable, preventing my text editor from ever breaking lines
before the punctuation (and not having some space in the source looks
awkward when reading French text).
I use:
\setupcharacterspacing
[frenchpunctuation]
[language=fr]
\mainlanguage [fr]
\setcharacterspacing [frenchpunctuation] % why necessary?
\setupitemize [symbol=2] % dash rather than bullet
This gives proper spacing with \quotation{} and with \startquotation
... \stopquotation. Also, {\en\quotation{}} and {\de\quotation{}} in
the document correctly do not add spaces.
Is \setupquotation[symstyle=\resetcharacterspacing]
necessary?
Alan
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 14:18:19 +0200
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Peter Münster schrieb am 07.06.2024 um 13:31:
> > On Thu, May 30 2024, Peter Münster wrote:
> >
> >> \mainlanguage[fr]
> >> \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
> >> \starttext
> >> bla \quotation{OK} bla\\
> >> bla «OK» bla
> >> \startquotation
> >>Not Ok: a space is missing
> >> \stopquotation
> >> \stoptext
> >
> > It seems, that this workaround solves the problem:
> > \setupquotation[before={\setcharacterspacing[reset]}]
>
>
> The quotation environment doesn't rely on the characterspacing
> mechanism to add the spaces before and the after the quotes but uses
> language dependent skips.
>
> The example below shows how it works and where it fails when you use
> characterspacing. Resetting spacing (and probably other settings like
> charcterkerning etc.) when the quotes are added as you noticed fixes
> the problem.
>
> begin example
> \starttext
>
> \dontleavehmode
> \hbox{«\hspace[fr][quotation]}%
> xxx%
> \hbox{\hspace[fr][quotation]»}
>
> \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
>
> \dontleavehmode
> \hbox{«\hspace[fr][quotation]}%
> xxx%
> \hbox{\hspace[fr][quotation]»}
>
> \dontleavehmode
> \hbox{\expand\everyresettypesetting\relax «\hspace[fr][quotation]}%
> xxx%
> \hbox{\expand\everyresettypesetting\relax \hspace[fr][quotation]»}
>
> \stoptext
> end example
>
> > What do you think about it? Is this the right way to do it?
>
> I would use the symstyle key as hook to disable charcterspacing for
> the quotes in the environment.
>
> begin example
> \mainlanguage[fr]
>
> \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
>
>
>
> \starttext
>
> «xxx»
>
> \startquotation xxx\stopquotation
>
> \stoptext
> end example
>
> Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: missing space with French quotation
Peter Münster schrieb am 07.06.2024 um 13:31:
On Thu, May 30 2024, Peter Münster wrote:
\mainlanguage[fr]
\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
\starttext
bla \quotation{OK} bla\\
bla «OK» bla
\startquotation
Not Ok: a space is missing
\stopquotation
\stoptext
It seems, that this workaround solves the problem:
\setupquotation[before={\setcharacterspacing[reset]}]
The quotation environment doesn't rely on the characterspacing mechanism
to add the spaces before and the after the quotes but uses language
dependent skips.
The example below shows how it works and where it fails when you use
characterspacing. Resetting spacing (and probably other settings like
charcterkerning etc.) when the quotes are added as you noticed fixes the
problem.
begin example
\starttext
\dontleavehmode
\hbox{«\hspace[fr][quotation]}%
xxx%
\hbox{\hspace[fr][quotation]»}
\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
\dontleavehmode
\hbox{«\hspace[fr][quotation]}%
xxx%
\hbox{\hspace[fr][quotation]»}
\dontleavehmode
\hbox{\expand\everyresettypesetting\relax «\hspace[fr][quotation]}%
xxx%
\hbox{\expand\everyresettypesetting\relax \hspace[fr][quotation]»}
\stoptext
end example
What do you think about it? Is this the right way to do it?
I would use the symstyle key as hook to disable charcterspacing for the
quotes in the environment.
begin example
\mainlanguage[fr]
\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
\setupquotation[symstyle=\resetcharacterspacing]
\starttext
«xxx»
\startquotation xxx\stopquotation
\stoptext
end example
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: missing space with French quotation
On Thu, May 30 2024, Peter Münster wrote:
> \mainlanguage[fr]
> \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
> \starttext
> bla \quotation{OK} bla\\
> bla «OK» bla
> \startquotation
> Not Ok: a space is missing
> \stopquotation
> \stoptext
It seems, that this workaround solves the problem:
\setupquotation[before={\setcharacterspacing[reset]}]
What do you think about it? Is this the right way to do it?
--
Peter
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt source from XML
Dear Pablo, Dear Christoph, just in case it might help to your meditation. First of all, lpaths are XPath implemented with Lua in ConTeXt. XPath seems to have as it primary purpose to address the nodes of XML trees. About your sources, the real issue here is to define whether you want TEI or TeX to be the format containing them. I mean, if you add explaining footnotes to your TeX file(s), XML won’t be source anymore. If you don’t want this to happen, you have to encode them in the TEI XML sources. In my case, the connection to the original source will be lost. While we will still try to backport corrections, the connection will be lost at the very moment when we will annotate the source text. From this point of view, an independent source is created here anyway, so I have the freedom to choose between TEI or TeX. At the moment I'm leaning strongly towards TEI, also because I could try to remove the annotations via XSLT once the work is complete, diff the result with the original source and improve it). And besides, XML+ConTeXt looks quite elegant from the distance of my ignorance. (Although reading xml-mkiv.pdf creates a pleasant frictional heat in my cerebral convolutions, but leaves at least as many knots in them as XML data have nodes). One last suggestion about proofreading. This is something I learnt from personal experience. The first reading is much better to catch errors in the text than the subsequent ones. Having the text properly formatted and printed on paper helps a lot to spot errors. Same here: It's the paper! (I for myself prefer for the first proof reading a page lots of white space, in monospaced font like Courier, while my proofreader wants to see the font that will be used in the end.) Thank you very much for your suggestions, Christoph ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt source from XML
On 6/6/2024 5:33 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: On 6/5/24 20:23, Christoph Edenhauser wrote: Dear Pablo, Thank you very much for your very clear, detailed and elaborate explanations. - Over the next few days I will meditate on the ConTeXt way to handle XML and on my workflow and take a look at lpath (never heard of it). And somehow I have the impression that the next few days will last a few weeks. Dear Christoph, just in case it might help to your meditation. First of all, lpaths are XPath implemented with Lua in ConTeXt. XPath seems to have as it primary purpose to address the nodes of XML trees. About your sources, the real issue here is to define whether you want TEI or TeX to be the format containing them. I mean, if you add explaining footnotes to your TeX file(s), XML won’t be source anymore. If you don’t want this to happen, you have to encode them in the TEI XML sources. One last suggestion about proofreading. This is something I learnt from personal experience. The first reading is much better to catch errors in the text than the subsequent ones. Having the text properly formatted and printed on paper helps a lot to spot errors. Reading source code is cheaper (no doubt), but the results will be poorer too. Just in case it might help, fwiw, context supports 'synctex' to xml files / nodes so that might help a bit Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt source from XML
On 6/5/24 20:23, Christoph Edenhauser wrote: > Dear Pablo, > > Thank you very much for your very clear, detailed and elaborate > explanations. - Over the next few days I will meditate on the ConTeXt > way to handle XML and on my workflow and take a look at lpath (never > heard of it). And somehow I have the impression that the next few days > will last a few weeks. Dear Christoph, just in case it might help to your meditation. First of all, lpaths are XPath implemented with Lua in ConTeXt. XPath seems to have as it primary purpose to address the nodes of XML trees. About your sources, the real issue here is to define whether you want TEI or TeX to be the format containing them. I mean, if you add explaining footnotes to your TeX file(s), XML won’t be source anymore. If you don’t want this to happen, you have to encode them in the TEI XML sources. One last suggestion about proofreading. This is something I learnt from personal experience. The first reading is much better to catch errors in the text than the subsequent ones. Having the text properly formatted and printed on paper helps a lot to spot errors. Reading source code is cheaper (no doubt), but the results will be poorer too. Just in case it might help, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Combine \setupdelimitedtext with an author (define custom variable?)
On 6/6/2024 4:34 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Gerion Entrup schrieb am 06.06.2024 um 12:30:
Hi,
I like to achieve something that looks like this:
```
\definedelimitedtext[extract][blockquote]
\setupdelimitedtext
[extract]
[leftmargin=1.5pc,
style={\italic},
before={\setupindenting[next]},
after={\blank[1ex] \hrule \blank[1ex] \startalignment[flushright]
\tfx\italic{René Descartes} \stopalignment}]
\starttext
\startextract
Cogito ergo sum.
\stopextract
\stoptext
```
So it should setup a quotation and mentions the author.
However, here the author is hardcoded within the blockquote. I would
like it to use like this:
```
\definedelimitedtext[extract][blockquote]
\setupdelimitedtext
[extract]
[leftmargin=1.5pc,
style={\italic},
before={\setupindenting[next]},
after={\blank[1ex] \hrule \blank[1ex] \startalignment[flushright]
\tfx\italic{\getcustomvariable{author}} \stopalignment}]
\starttext
\startextract[author=René Descartes]
Cogito ergo sum.
\stopextract
\stoptext
```
Is there an easy way to achieve that?
I tried with \structureuservariable (like possible in \startchapter)
but it does not work.
\startsetups [userdata:extract]
\startnarrower
\setupindenting[next]
\getuserdata
\hairline
\dontleavehmode\wordright{\itx\userdataparameter{author}}
\stopnarrower
\stopsetups
\defineuserdataalternative
[extract]
[renderingsetup=userdata:extract]
\defineuserdata
[extract]
[style=italic,
alternative=extract]
\starttext
\startextract[author=René Descartes]
Cogito ergo sum.
\stopextract
\stoptext
ah, i start forgetting about these mechanisms ... i added this example
to th etest suite
Hans
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[NTG-context] Re: \item would fit, but was pushed to next page. Work-around or fix?
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 18:04 (+0200), Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Am 05.06.24 um 17:33 schrieb Jim: >> Hi, >> I had the following structure which ended up at the bottom of a page: > … >> Q1: Is there a Right Way to force ConTeXt to put an \item on the current >> page? >> Q2: If not, does anyone wish to suggest some way to trick ConTeXt here, or >> to do an end-run around its calculations? >> Note: to solve this problem the use of brute force has been authorized. > Did you try \adaptlayout? > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/adaptlayout > It might also help to put the itemize in a box (but that might end up on the > next page). Hi Hraban, That works perfectly. I didn't know about that command before, and my google searches to find something like that didn't turn anything up. Undoubtedly I used the wrong search terms. I tried putting the \placefigure and the itemize in a box, thinking that if all else failed I could put a negative \vskip at the bottom to make the box shorter. However, when I tried putting all that in a \vbox I got some error messages which were not immediately illuminating (to me). Thanks for the pointer. Jim ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt source from XML
lear to understand why your approach is different from what ConTeXt offers. Feel free to ask, if my explanation wasn’t clear enough. I hope it helps, Pablo PS: if now the fancy thing may be about digital competences, the ability to read XML sources is way more useful than being able to read TeX . ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/blank
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 21:50 (+0200), Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Jim schrieb am 04.06.2024 um 21:29:
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 20:31 (+0200), Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>>> On 4 Jun 2024, at 20:16, Wolfgang Schuster
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Jim schrieb am 04.06.2024 um 19:48:
>>>> > I did not realize the wiki software did that. On reflection I suppose
>>>> > that
>>>> > is useful in many (most?) cases. But I'd argue that it is not always a
>>>> > good
>>>> > thing, such as in this case. (If nothing else, it might mislead a n00b
>>>> > into thinking that you should get output for text preceding \starttext.)
>>> Here is the documentation for the tag extension:
>>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Help:Context
>> Hi Taco,
>> thanks very much for the link. But, ummm, what it says there seems to
>> contradict what Wolfgang told me in the other response to my message.
>> [[ I see Wolfgang edited the \blank wiki page to move the text in question
>> to after \starttext, but I'm sure if you don't believe what I say in the
>> next paragraph, you can grab the previous version. ]]
>> Specifically, the example in the (previous) \blank wiki page does, indeed,
>> have a \starttext and \stoptext. So, according to the page you mention
>> above, another \starttext and \stoptext should *not* be added. And yet the
>> (previous) \blank page example does print the text (as well as the bullets)
>> before the \starttext. Is there a discrepancy between what
>> .../Help:Context says and what actually happens?
> When you take a look at the settings which are applied here you can see
> \setupbodyfont[8pt] which is the reason why the text appears, compare
> begin example
> Before \tex{starttext}
> \starttext
> After \tex{starttext}.
> \stoptext
> end example
> with
> begin example
> \setupbodyfont[12pt]
> Before \tex{starttext}
> \starttext
> After \tex{starttext}.
> \stoptext
> end example
> The second example loads a font before the text appear in the document which
> is the reason why you can see it.
Thanks Wolfgang,
all is now becoming clear. :-)
Jim
P.S. Well, "all" about this, I still have lots of questions about other things.
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[NTG-context] Re: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/blank
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 20:14 (+0200), Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Jim schrieb am 04.06.2024 um 19:48:
>> I did not realize the wiki software did that. On reflection I suppose that
>> is useful in many (most?) cases. But I'd argue that it is not always a good
>> thing, such as in this case. (If nothing else, it might mislead a n00b
>> into thinking that you should get output for text preceding \starttext.)
> The reason why you get no text isn't that you wrote it before \starttext but
> that no font was loaded yet. By default ConTeXt postpones the loading of the
> default fonts until \starttext because when you use a different font on your
> document this is normally before \starttext and with the postponing there is
> no need to load a unused font.
> At the point where you load a font with \setupbodyfont text even if it
> appears before \starttext is shown as expected but this isn't recommended.
>> If you (or some other knowledgeable person reading this) don't (doesn't)
>> mind another question,...
>> Is the bullet symbol not from some font? If so, why is that font loaded in
>> time to see the bullet?
> When no font has been loaded yet with \setupbodyfont ConTeXt prints text
> which is put in a \hbox in a monospaced font as shown in the example below.
> begin example
> This is before \tex{starttext}.
> \hbox{This is also before \tex{starttext}}
> \starttext
> This is after \tex{starttext}.
> \stoptext
> end example
Thanks again. Without looking at the code, I (boldly) conclude that the
bullet is in an \hbox.
While I'm curious about why text in an \hbox is printed, I'm thinking that
I may not have need to know. ;-)
Jim
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[NTG-context] Re: Number in a circle
> On 1 Jun 2024, at 01:48, Bruce Horrocks wrote: > > I'm not sure there is a need to do any more than Adam Reviczky is already > doing. When I find a bit of time I'll install a Ubuntu 24.04 into a VM and > see what version of Context is installed, likewise Debian. TL;DR: OMG! I thought Ubuntu was supposed to be Linux made easy? 1) I installed Ubuntu 14.04 It comes with context pre-installed but it's broken. bruce@bruce-VMware-Virtual-Platform:-$ which context /usr/bin/context bruce@bruce-VMware-Virtual-Platform:~$ context --version mtxrun | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua' 2) I removed the pre-installed context, added the reviczky PPA from launchpad.net as an alternative package source and re-installed. bruce@bruce-VMware-Virtual-Platform:~$ sudo apt remove context [output snipped] bruce@bruce-VMware-Virtual-Platform:-$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:reviczky [output snipped] bruce@bruce-VMware-Virtual-Platform:-$ sudo apt install context [output snipped] bruce@bruce-VMware-Virtual-Platform:~$ context --version mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 1.04 mtx-context | mtx-context | main context file: /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv mtx-context | current version: 2023.05.05 18:36 mtx-context | main context file: /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/mkxl/context.mkxl mtx-context | current version: 2023.05.05 18:36 This at least works but it's an ancient version. I couldn't find any way to access the 2024 dated version referenced in the PPA/launchpad site. Conclusion: Not sure where this leaves us. Ubutu complained about the PPA ot having a 'release' file - so this may be a bug with the PPS config which is stopping Ubuntu from downloading from that PPA. Or it may be this will bnever work? Whatever the problem is, the suggestion of getting Context into the Deb build seems like the way to go. — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] issue with signing
Dear list,
I have the following sample
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\definefield[signature][signed]
\defineoverlay[signature][my signature]
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=1ts,frame=on,framecolor=darkblue]
sign: \inframed[background=signature,framecolor=darkred]
{\fieldbody[signature][width=3cm,option=hidden]}
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
After compiling, I sign it with the following command (in latest from
2024.05.31 18:50):
mtxrun --script pdf --sign --certificate=mycert.pfx --password=ABCabc a
It requires the pass phrase (again?) and I get a signed PDF document.
But Acrobat cannot find (or display) any signature in that PDF document.
pdfsig (from poppler-utils-24.02.0) complains about digest mismatch:
$ pdfsig a.pdf
Digital Signature Info of: a.pdf
Signature #1:
- Signature Field Name: signature
- Signer Certificate Common Name: John Doe
- Signer full Distinguished Name: CN=John Doe,O=No Brainer
- Signing Time: Jun 03 2024 16:24:03
- Signing Hash Algorithm: SHA-256
- Signature Type: adbe.pkcs7.detached
- Signed Ranges: [0 - 6428], [10527 - 10912]
- Not total document signed
- Signature Validation: Digest Mismatch.
mutool sign (from mupdf-1.24.1) also complains about modified document
after signing:
$ mutool sign -v a.pdf
Verifying signature 3:
Distinguished name: cn=John Doe, o=No Brainer, ou=, email=, c=XX
Certificate error: Self-signed certificate.
Digest error: Signature invalidated by change to document.
Sorry, but what am I doing wrong here?
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
mycert.pfx
Description: application/pkcs12
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[NTG-context] Re: Number in a circle
> On 30 May 2024, at 21:19, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > > Am 30.05.24 um 19:25 schrieb Kip Warner: >> On Thu, 2024-05-30 at 18:26 +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: >>> Is this a message "I'm volunteering to maintain such a ppa" or a >>> message "wouldn't it be nice if someone went out of their way to make >>> my life easier"? Just out of curiosity. >> Right now it's the latter due to time constraints. Although I have >> helped a number of free software projects get PPAs up and running. >> Usually once they're up there's not much to do after. Since ConTeXt is >> already Debianized by the Debian project, you probably can start with >> their debian/ folder, edit as needed, and then you should be good. You >> can also set an automatic build recipe in the PPA so each commit to SCM >> results in a new nightly. >> You'll get a lot more people using and testing your newer release this >> way. Food for thought. > > I can assure you the worldwide TeX community has thought about their approach > a few times. > TeX Live packaging (i.e. mostly LaTeX packaging) is different to Linux > packaging. Somebody explained it to me in detail, but I can’t remember… > At least TeX Live’s yearly release setup doesn’t fit… well, anything else (I > find it annoying). But for release date, many of the active contributors make > sure everything fits together. > > ConTeXt is different in that the distribution is closely coupled to binary > versions. It would be possible to set up a PPA independent of TeX Live, I > guess. (Have binary & macros in the same package, maybe docs & fonts > separate…) But somebody would have to maintain it. I'd be able to maintain a Context PPA but there already seems to be one: <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/context> The dates on that page confuse me, however. It says the last upload of the package was 2023-05-05 but that it somehow contains the Context version from 2024-04-09. I'm not quite sure how that can be the case? Also it's not clear to me whether that PPA is Context alone or TeXlive plus a bunch of TeX stuff including Context? (I could install it of course.) :-) — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Number in a circle
Am 30.05.24 um 19:25 schrieb Kip Warner: On Thu, 2024-05-30 at 18:26 +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Is this a message "I'm volunteering to maintain such a ppa" or a message "wouldn't it be nice if someone went out of their way to make my life easier"? Just out of curiosity. Right now it's the latter due to time constraints. Although I have helped a number of free software projects get PPAs up and running. Usually once they're up there's not much to do after. Since ConTeXt is already Debianized by the Debian project, you probably can start with their debian/ folder, edit as needed, and then you should be good. You can also set an automatic build recipe in the PPA so each commit to SCM results in a new nightly. You'll get a lot more people using and testing your newer release this way. Food for thought. I can assure you the worldwide TeX community has thought about their approach a few times. TeX Live packaging (i.e. mostly LaTeX packaging) is different to Linux packaging. Somebody explained it to me in detail, but I can’t remember… At least TeX Live’s yearly release setup doesn’t fit… well, anything else (I find it annoying). But for release date, many of the active contributors make sure everything fits together. ConTeXt is different in that the distribution is closely coupled to binary versions. It would be possible to set up a PPA independent of TeX Live, I guess. (Have binary & macros in the same package, maybe docs & fonts separate…) But somebody would have to maintain it. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Number in a circle
On Thu, 2024-05-30 at 17:22 +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Am 28.05.24 um 23:50 schrieb Kip Warner: > > On Tue, 2024-05-28 at 17:47 +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > > > fw is a new dimensio unit only available in LMTX (not in LuaTeX). > > > > > > Just in case it might help, > > > > Thanks Pablo. I'm using the context package for Ubuntu Mantic which > > is > > version 2021.03.05.20230120+dfsg-2. I'm assuming that doesn't > > support > > the new unit. > > No. Debian/Ubuntu is known for outdated TeX Live packages. > > It doesn’t matter as long as it works for you, but on this mailing > list we tend to assume latest versions. > > See "Integrating vanilla TeX Live with Debian" in > https://wiki.debian.org/TeXLive how to replace TeX Live from your > Linux distribution with a current version. > > You can also install an additional ConTeXt LMTX, just be careful > about your PATH. > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation Thanks Hrabab. With respect to the latter wiki page, the project might consider adding a PPA. They're very popular among the over a hundred different Debian based distros out there. They reconcile both system requirements of proper FHS usage and file tracking by the system package manager with the user's need to use the latest stable or nightly. -- Kip Warner OpenPGP signed/encrypted mail preferred https://www.thevertigo.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \hfrac undefined in latest
Hi Hans & Mikael, \hfrac is not defined anymore in latest LMTX, is this intentional? (I don’t need it, it’s just about documentation.) Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Number in a circle
Am 28.05.24 um 23:50 schrieb Kip Warner: On Tue, 2024-05-28 at 17:47 +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: fw is a new dimensio unit only available in LMTX (not in LuaTeX). Just in case it might help, Thanks Pablo. I'm using the context package for Ubuntu Mantic which is version 2021.03.05.20230120+dfsg-2. I'm assuming that doesn't support the new unit. No. Debian/Ubuntu is known for outdated TeX Live packages. It doesn’t matter as long as it works for you, but on this mailing list we tend to assume latest versions. See "Integrating vanilla TeX Live with Debian" in https://wiki.debian.org/TeXLive how to replace TeX Live from your Linux distribution with a current version. You can also install an additional ConTeXt LMTX, just be careful about your PATH. https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: setuphead in connection with the command argument
Hi Tomáš,
first, thank you for the answer.
Am Donnerstag, 30. Mai 2024, 16:47:36 MESZ schrieb Tomáš Hála:
> Hi Gebrion,
>
> > ## Font size + ## Bold text
>
> for font size etc., you can use
> \setuphead [chapter] [style={\setupbodyfont[11pt]}] or
> \setuphead [chapter] [style=\tf]
>
> \setuphead [chapter] [style=\bf]
So this sentence of the wiki [1] is wrong (documentation of the command
argument)?:
> Command to use for typesetting the title; overrules all other styling. First
> argument is the number, second the title text.
If I see it right, `style=` only affects the typesetting of `#1` and `#2`, so I
need setupbodyfont _and_ switchtobodyfont, didn't I?
Also, when I want #1 and #2 to be in different sizes, I choose the "base" size
with style=\setupbodyfont and adjust it further with switchtobodyfont just for
one the the argument?
All in all, the correct documentation would be:
> Command to use for typesetting the title. First argument is the number,
> second the title text. Styling of these parameters can be achieved only by
> specifying style=.
> > ## Line breaks + ## Framed
> > How can I achieve line breaks?
>
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> \framedtext{%
> #1 #2:\\
> \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
> (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
> }
This produces an extra line break between '#2' and ':', I don't get why.
Otherwise, it looks quite nice.
> > I also want to set everything except of the intro in a flushright
> > environment but do not know how. I tried:
>
> As above:
> \framedtext[align=flushright]{%
That works, thank you!
Best,
Gerion
> --
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 02:15:01PM +, Gerion Entrup wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to adapt the format of chapters in my document and have a few
> > questions regarding setuphead.
> > My aim is to have the chapter (title) on a separate page with an additional
> > intro in different text sizes for title, subtitle and the intro.
> > I chose to use the "command=" argument in setuphead for that.
> > However, I'm not quite sure about it's internals.
> >
> > Let's begin with a minimal example:
> > ```
> > \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> > #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle} (\structureuservariable{intro})
> > }
> >
> > \setuphead[title, chapter][command=\MyChapter]
> >
> > \setupbodyfont[11pt]
> >
> > \starttext
> > \startchapter[title=foo][subtitle=bar, intro={some explanation}]
> > some text
> > \stopchapter
> > \stoptext
> > ```
> > This produces 1.pdf.
> >
> >
> > ## Font size
> >
> > What is the reason that that the font of the chapter is bigger? How can I
> > reset it to normal size? This does not work at all:
> > ```
> > \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> > \setupbodyfont[11pt] #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle}
> > (\structureuservariable{intro})
> > }
> > ```
> > However, changing to a bigger font works somehow. Is there a factor applied
> > to the font size internally? For example:
> > ```
> > \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> > \setupbodyfont[20pt] #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle}
> > (\structureuservariable{intro})
> > }
> > ```
> > produces 2.pdf (the chapter font is not 20pt).
> >
> >
> > ## Line breaks
> >
> > How can I achieve line breaks?
> > This does not work:
> > ```
> > \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> > #1 #2:\\
> > \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
> > (\structureuservariable{intro})
> > }
> > ```
> > (see 3.pdf)
> >
> > I also want to set everything except of the intro in a flushright
> > environment but do not know how. I tried:
> > ```
> > \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> > \startalignment[flushright]
> > #1 #2:\\
> > \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
> > \stopalignment
> > \structureuservariable{intro}
> > }
> > ```
> > (see 4.pdf, no change)
> >
> >
> > ## Bold text
> >
> > I tried to get the text bold. However, `#1` and `#2` does not seem to
> > follow this.
> > ```
> > \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> > \bold #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle}
> > (\structureuservariable{intro})
> > }
> > ```
> >
> > ## Makeups
> >
> > The best solution, I had so far, was to define a makeup, but I don't get it
> > to work with text with mixed alignment and it does not solve the font size
> > problem:
> > ```
> > \definemakeup[chapter
[NTG-context] Re: setuphead in connection with the command argument
Hi Gebrion,
> ## Font size + ## Bold text
for font size etc., you can use
\setuphead [chapter] [style={\setupbodyfont[11pt]}] or
\setuphead [chapter] [style=\tf]
\setuphead [chapter] [style=\bf]
> ## Line breaks + ## Framed
> How can I achieve line breaks?
\define[2]\MyChapter{%
\framedtext{%
#1 #2:\\
\structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
(\structureuservariable{intro})
}
}
> I also want to set everything except of the intro in a flushright environment
> but do not know how. I tried:
As above:
\framedtext[align=flushright]{%
The best,
Tomáš
--
On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 02:15:01PM +, Gerion Entrup wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to adapt the format of chapters in my document and have a few
> questions regarding setuphead.
> My aim is to have the chapter (title) on a separate page with an additional
> intro in different text sizes for title, subtitle and the intro.
> I chose to use the "command=" argument in setuphead for that.
> However, I'm not quite sure about it's internals.
>
> Let's begin with a minimal example:
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle} (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
>
> \setuphead[title, chapter][command=\MyChapter]
>
> \setupbodyfont[11pt]
>
> \starttext
> \startchapter[title=foo][subtitle=bar, intro={some explanation}]
> some text
> \stopchapter
> \stoptext
> ```
> This produces 1.pdf.
>
>
> ## Font size
>
> What is the reason that that the font of the chapter is bigger? How can I
> reset it to normal size? This does not work at all:
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> \setupbodyfont[11pt] #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle}
> (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
> ```
> However, changing to a bigger font works somehow. Is there a factor applied
> to the font size internally? For example:
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> \setupbodyfont[20pt] #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle}
> (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
> ```
> produces 2.pdf (the chapter font is not 20pt).
>
>
> ## Line breaks
>
> How can I achieve line breaks?
> This does not work:
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> #1 #2:\\
> \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
> (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
> ```
> (see 3.pdf)
>
> I also want to set everything except of the intro in a flushright environment
> but do not know how. I tried:
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> \startalignment[flushright]
> #1 #2:\\
> \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
> \stopalignment
> \structureuservariable{intro}
> }
> ```
> (see 4.pdf, no change)
>
>
> ## Bold text
>
> I tried to get the text bold. However, `#1` and `#2` does not seem to follow
> this.
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> \bold #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle}
> (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
> ```
>
> ## Makeups
>
> The best solution, I had so far, was to define a makeup, but I don't get it
> to work with text with mixed alignment and it does not solve the font size
> problem:
> ```
> \definemakeup[chapter][align=left, top=]
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> \startmakeup[chapter]
> #1 #2:\\
> \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
> \stopmakeup
> (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
> ```
> (see 5.pdf)
>
> ## Framed
>
> I also have tried this but it does not bring any linebreaks:
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> \framed[frame=off, offset=0pt]{#1\\#2:\\
> \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\ (\structureuservariable{intro})}
> }
> ```
> (see 6.pdf)
>
> I hope you can shed some light into setuphead with command. I search on the
> wiki, Stackoverflow and the manuals but didn't really find anything.
>
> Best,
> Gerion
>
> % 1.pdf
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle} (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
>
> % % 2.pdf
> % \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> % \setupbodyfont[20pt] #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle}
> (\structureuservariable{intro})
> % }
>
> % % 3.pdf
> % \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> % #1 #2:\\
> % \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
> % (\structureuservariable{intro})
> % }
>
> % % 4.pdf
> % \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> % \startalignment[flushright]
> % #1 #2:\\
> % \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
> % \stopalignment
> % \structureuservariable{intro}
> % }
>
> % % 5.pdf
> % \definemakeup[chapter][align=left, top=]
> % \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> % \startmakeup[chapter]
> % #1 #2:\\
[NTG-context] Re: setuphead in connection with the command argument
The chapter format that I want to achieve in the end is nearly the one in the
attachment (excerpt of Christian Dietrich's PhD thesis).
Best
Gerion
Am Donnerstag, 30. Mai 2024, 16:15:01 MESZ schrieb Gerion Entrup:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to adapt the format of chapters in my document and have a few
> questions regarding setuphead.
> My aim is to have the chapter (title) on a separate page with an additional
> intro in different text sizes for title, subtitle and the intro.
> I chose to use the "command=" argument in setuphead for that.
> However, I'm not quite sure about it's internals.
>
> Let's begin with a minimal example:
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle} (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
>
> \setuphead[title, chapter][command=\MyChapter]
>
> \setupbodyfont[11pt]
>
> \starttext
> \startchapter[title=foo][subtitle=bar, intro={some explanation}]
> some text
> \stopchapter
> \stoptext
> ```
> This produces 1.pdf.
>
>
> ## Font size
>
> What is the reason that that the font of the chapter is bigger? How can I
> reset it to normal size? This does not work at all:
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> \setupbodyfont[11pt] #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle}
> (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
> ```
> However, changing to a bigger font works somehow. Is there a factor applied
> to the font size internally? For example:
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> \setupbodyfont[20pt] #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle}
> (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
> ```
> produces 2.pdf (the chapter font is not 20pt).
>
>
> ## Line breaks
>
> How can I achieve line breaks?
> This does not work:
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> #1 #2:\\
> \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
> (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
> ```
> (see 3.pdf)
>
> I also want to set everything except of the intro in a flushright environment
> but do not know how. I tried:
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> \startalignment[flushright]
> #1 #2:\\
> \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
> \stopalignment
> \structureuservariable{intro}
> }
> ```
> (see 4.pdf, no change)
>
>
> ## Bold text
>
> I tried to get the text bold. However, `#1` and `#2` does not seem to follow
> this.
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> \bold #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle}
> (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
> ```
>
> ## Makeups
>
> The best solution, I had so far, was to define a makeup, but I don't get it
> to work with text with mixed alignment and it does not solve the font size
> problem:
> ```
> \definemakeup[chapter][align=left, top=]
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> \startmakeup[chapter]
> #1 #2:\\
> \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
> \stopmakeup
> (\structureuservariable{intro})
> }
> ```
> (see 5.pdf)
>
> ## Framed
>
> I also have tried this but it does not bring any linebreaks:
> ```
> \define[2]\MyChapter{%
> \framed[frame=off, offset=0pt]{#1\\#2:\\
> \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\ (\structureuservariable{intro})}
> }
> ```
> (see 6.pdf)
>
> I hope you can shed some light into setuphead with command. I search on the
> wiki, Stackoverflow and the manuals but didn't really find anything.
>
> Best,
> Gerion
>
>
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[NTG-context] setuphead in connection with the command argument
Hi,
I'm trying to adapt the format of chapters in my document and have a few
questions regarding setuphead.
My aim is to have the chapter (title) on a separate page with an additional
intro in different text sizes for title, subtitle and the intro.
I chose to use the "command=" argument in setuphead for that.
However, I'm not quite sure about it's internals.
Let's begin with a minimal example:
```
\define[2]\MyChapter{%
#1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle} (\structureuservariable{intro})
}
\setuphead[title, chapter][command=\MyChapter]
\setupbodyfont[11pt]
\starttext
\startchapter[title=foo][subtitle=bar, intro={some explanation}]
some text
\stopchapter
\stoptext
```
This produces 1.pdf.
## Font size
What is the reason that that the font of the chapter is bigger? How can I reset
it to normal size? This does not work at all:
```
\define[2]\MyChapter{%
\setupbodyfont[11pt] #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle}
(\structureuservariable{intro})
}
```
However, changing to a bigger font works somehow. Is there a factor applied to
the font size internally? For example:
```
\define[2]\MyChapter{%
\setupbodyfont[20pt] #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle}
(\structureuservariable{intro})
}
```
produces 2.pdf (the chapter font is not 20pt).
## Line breaks
How can I achieve line breaks?
This does not work:
```
\define[2]\MyChapter{%
#1 #2:\\
\structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
(\structureuservariable{intro})
}
```
(see 3.pdf)
I also want to set everything except of the intro in a flushright environment
but do not know how. I tried:
```
\define[2]\MyChapter{%
\startalignment[flushright]
#1 #2:\\
\structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
\stopalignment
\structureuservariable{intro}
}
```
(see 4.pdf, no change)
## Bold text
I tried to get the text bold. However, `#1` and `#2` does not seem to follow
this.
```
\define[2]\MyChapter{%
\bold #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle}
(\structureuservariable{intro})
}
```
## Makeups
The best solution, I had so far, was to define a makeup, but I don't get it to
work with text with mixed alignment and it does not solve the font size problem:
```
\definemakeup[chapter][align=left, top=]
\define[2]\MyChapter{%
\startmakeup[chapter]
#1 #2:\\
\structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
\stopmakeup
(\structureuservariable{intro})
}
```
(see 5.pdf)
## Framed
I also have tried this but it does not bring any linebreaks:
```
\define[2]\MyChapter{%
\framed[frame=off, offset=0pt]{#1\\#2:\\ \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
(\structureuservariable{intro})}
}
```
(see 6.pdf)
I hope you can shed some light into setuphead with command. I search on the
wiki, Stackoverflow and the manuals but didn't really find anything.
Best,
Gerion
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\define[2]\MyChapter{%
#1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle} (\structureuservariable{intro})
}
% % 2.pdf
% \define[2]\MyChapter{%
% \setupbodyfont[20pt] #1 #2: \structureuservariable{subtitle} (\structureuservariable{intro})
% }
% % 3.pdf
% \define[2]\MyChapter{%
% #1 #2:\\
% \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
% (\structureuservariable{intro})
% }
% % 4.pdf
% \define[2]\MyChapter{%
% \startalignment[flushright]
% #1 #2:\\
% \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
% \stopalignment
% \structureuservariable{intro}
% }
% % 5.pdf
% \definemakeup[chapter][align=left, top=]
% \define[2]\MyChapter{%
% \startmakeup[chapter]
% #1 #2:\\
% \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\
% \stopmakeup
% (\structureuservariable{intro})
% }
% % 6.pdf
% \define[2]\MyChapter{%
% \framed[frame=off, offset=0pt]{#1\\#2:\\ \structureuservariable{subtitle}\\ (\structureuservariable{intro})}
% }
\setuphead[title, chapter][command=\MyChapter]
\setupbodyfont[11pt]
\starttext
\startchapter[title=foo][subtitle=bar, intro={some explanation}]
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[NTG-context] Re: BibTeX choking on comments in database
On Wed, 2024-05-29 at 06:49 -0600, Alan Braslau wrote:
> 1) You appear to be using the long-frozen mkii bibliography code.
I think you are right! I just realized that. I'm using in my
Environment file...
% \BIBTEX macro...
\usemodule[abr-02]
% Setup bibliography...
% References database and other general settings...
\setupbibtex[database={./References}, sort=author]
% Global settings...
\setuppublications[
alternative=apa,
numbering=yes,
monthconversion=month,
autohang=yes,
sorttype=cite]
% Without this, no hyperlinks at all in the output...
\setupinteraction[state=start]
% This two-part helper creates a hyperlink for url fields...
\unprotect
\def\bibgotoURL#1#2%
{\useURL[#1][#2][][#1]\from[#1]}
\def\bibinsertbiburl#1#2#3%
{\bibdoifelse{\@@pb@biburl}
{#1\expanded{\bibgotoURL{\@@pb@title}{\@@pb@biburl}}#2}{#3}}
\protect
% Book reference layout...
\setuppublicationlayout[book]{%
\insertauthors{}{. }{\insertthekey{}{. }{}}%
\inserttitle{\bgroup\it }{.\egroup\space }{}%
\insertpubname{}{. }{}%
\insertday{}{ }{}%
\insertmonth{\Word }{. }{}%
\insertpubyear{}{. }{}%
\insertnote{}{.}{}%
}
% Adjusted version of 'misc' typesetting, using \insertbiburl
% instead of \inserttitle (and \insertbiburl runs the
% \bibinsertbiburl macro defined above)
\setuppublicationlayout[misc]{%
\insertauthors{}{. }{\insertthekey{}{. }{}}%
\insertbiburl{\bgroup\it }{.\egroup\space }{}%
\insertpubname{}{. }{}%
\insertday{}{ }{}%
\insertmonth{\Word }{. }{}%
\insertpubyear{}{. }{}%
\insertnote{}{.}{}%
}
% finally, this is a horrible hack needed due to bibtex inserting
% line breaks in the middle of urls in the output bbl (!)
% If you find this hack too ugly, consider editing the .bbl by
% hand and forgetting about the .bib file altogether...
\let\mydodostartpublication\dodostartpublication
\def\dodostartpublication{\catcode`\%=14 \mydodostartpublication}
% Macro to put the citations as footnotes...
\unexpanded\def\footnotecite{\dodoubleempty\domycite}
\def\domycite[#1][#2]%
{\ifsecondargument
\footnote{\cite[alternative=data,#1][#2]}%
\else
\footnote{\cite[data][#1]}%
\fi}
% Individial citation settings...
% Enable clickable links...
\setupcite[alternative=interaction=start, compress=no]
% Publication list setups for end of the book list...
% Settings for triggering et al...
\setuppublicationlist[authoretallimit=3]
\setuppublicationlist[authoretaltext={\it\ et al.}]
\setuppublicationlist[authoretaldisplay=2]
% List the author, editor, or article author's full name, inverted...
\setuppublicationlist[%
author=\invertedauthor,%
artauthor=\invertedauthor,%
editor=\invertedauthor,%
title=References]
% Setup footnotes...
\setupnotation[footnote]
[color=colour_footnote_text,
backgroundcolor=colour_footnote_background,
width=0.3cm, % Space between footnote number and footnote itself
numbercommand=] % Remove elevated footnote notation at bottom of
page
\setupnote[footnote]
[textseparator={\textcomma}, % Comma delineated
before={\crlf\crlf}] %
\setupfootnotes
[rule=on, % Disable horizontal rule
textstyle={\hskip.03em}] % Vertical space between footnotes and the
text
% To move footnotes inside of text boxes to the bottom of the page with
% the rest of the footnotes. Disabled temporarily to fix issue of text
% background frame borders vanishing...
\kindofpagetextareas\plusone
Whenever I wanted to use a citation I'd just write
\footnotecite[something]. But I see now there is this page that
describes a different process for using BibTeX:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography
I will take a look today and try to incorporate the new best practice
for using the database and its citations. If you have any suggestions I
will try and incorporate them.
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[NTG-context] Re: regular expression as lua pattern
On 5/29/24 13:00, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > [...] > See also Taco’s introduction to LPEG in > https://articles.contextgarden.net/journal/2019/77-98.pdf Many thanks for the reference, Hraban. I need to start digesting that to learn about LPEG. Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: regular expression as lua pattern
On 5/28/24 20:06, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 5/28/2024 6:25 PM, Tomáš Hála wrote:
>> Hi Pablo,
>>
>> unfortunately, that it is not possible:
>>
>> http://lua-users.org/wiki/PatternsTutorial, section Limitations.
>
> \starttext
> \startTEXpage[pagestate=start, offset=1em]
> \startluacode
> local pat = (lpeg.Cmt(lpeg.P("this") + lpeg.P("that"),
> function(str,_,s)
> context(s)
> return #str
> end) + lpeg.P(1))^1
> lpeg.match(pat,"how about this being that")
>
> local pat = (lpeg.Cmt(lpeg.oneof({ "this", "that" }),
> function(str,_,s)
> context(s)
> return #str
> end) + lpeg.P(1))^1
> lpeg.match(pat,"how about this being that")
> \stopluacode
> \stopTEXpage
> \stoptext
Many thanks for your reply, Hans.
I will have to study it becasue LPEGs is new stuff for me.
Many thanks for your help,
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[NTG-context] Re: regular expression as lua pattern
Am 28.05.24 um 20:06 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 5/28/2024 6:25 PM, Tomáš Hála wrote:
Hi Pablo,
unfortunately, that it is not possible:
http://lua-users.org/wiki/PatternsTutorial, section Limitations.
\starttext
\startTEXpage[pagestate=start, offset=1em]
\startluacode
local pat = (lpeg.Cmt(lpeg.P("this") + lpeg.P("that"),
function(str,_,s)
context(s)
return #str
end) + lpeg.P(1))^1
lpeg.match(pat,"how about this being that")
local pat = (lpeg.Cmt(lpeg.oneof({ "this", "that" }),
function(str,_,s)
context(s)
return #str
end) + lpeg.P(1))^1
lpeg.match(pat,"how about this being that")
\stopluacode
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
See also Taco’s introduction to LPEG in
https://articles.contextgarden.net/journal/2019/77-98.pdf
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[NTG-context] Re: BibTeX choking on comments in database
On Tue, 28 May 2024, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-05-28 at 08:05 +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> > According to the documentation, everything outside of entries is
> > considered a comment. Inside of entries, there can’t be comments.
>
> But in this case, is it not warning about text outside of an entry that
> should be treated as a comment?
Hard to say without looking at the bib file, but % is not a comment character
in bibtex. So, if your file starts with
% @article{key,
% title = {...},
% }
you will get an error from the bib parser.
If you want to comment out an entry, the simplest way is to remove the @. So,
article{key,
title={...},
}
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[NTG-context] Re: regular expression as lua pattern
On 5/28/2024 6:25 PM, Tomáš Hála wrote:
Hi Pablo,
unfortunately, that it is not possible:
http://lua-users.org/wiki/PatternsTutorial, section Limitations.
\starttext
\startTEXpage[pagestate=start, offset=1em]
\startluacode
local pat = (lpeg.Cmt(lpeg.P("this") + lpeg.P("that"),
function(str,_,s)
context(s)
return #str
end) + lpeg.P(1))^1
lpeg.match(pat,"how about this being that")
local pat = (lpeg.Cmt(lpeg.oneof({ "this", "that" }),
function(str,_,s)
context(s)
return #str
end) + lpeg.P(1))^1
lpeg.match(pat,"how about this being that")
\stopluacode
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 06:12:51PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
Dear list,
I have the following sample:
\starttext
\startTEXpage[pagestate=start, offset=1em]
\startluacode
local str = "this is that"
context(str:match("(this|these)"))
\stopluacode
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
In short, I would like to know whether it is possible to have the
regular expression (this|these) as a Lua pattern.
I mean, I need complete strings and I haven’t found the way to do it.
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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[NTG-context] Re: BibTeX choking on comments in database
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[NTG-context] Re: Number in a circle
On Mon, 2024-05-27 at 19:28 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> TeX complains about the value ".5fw" for the radius key. Hans added
> last year the function to add new units to ConTeXt and I used it to
> set the radius to half of the width of the framed box.
>
> Use the following version of the setup for the frame which works with
> older ConTeXt installations because it doesn't use the feature.
>
> \defineframed
> [textcircled]
> [ width=1.5em,
> height=1.5em,
> location=low,
> corner=round,
> %radius=.5fw,
> radius=\dimexpr\framedwidth/2\relax,
> offset=none]
>
> \starttext
> \dostepwiserecurse{0}{9}{1}{#1 = \textcircled{#1}\blank}
> \stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: Number in a circle
Kip Warner schrieb am 27.05.2024 um 19:10:
On Mon, 2024-05-27 at 16:51 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
I can't provide a circle but I can give you a box with rounded
corners.
\defineframed
[textcircled]
[ width=1.5em,
height=1.5em,
location=low,
corner=round,
radius=.5fw,
offset=none]
\starttext
\dostepwiserecurse{0}{9}{1}{#1 = \textcircled{#1}\blank}
\stoptext
Thanks Wolfgang. I gave it a try on https://context-on-web.eu/, but it
failed:
Dimensions can be in units of em, ex, in, pt, pc, cm, mm, dd, cc,
bp, dk, or54sp; but yours is a new one! I'll assume that you meant
to say pt, for printer's55points. two letters.
I'm not sure what it is referring to.
TeX complains about the value ".5fw" for the radius key. Hans added last
year the function to add new units to ConTeXt and I used it to set the
radius to half of the width of the framed box.
Use the following version of the setup for the frame which works with
older ConTeXt installations because it doesn't use the feature.
\defineframed
[textcircled]
[ width=1.5em,
height=1.5em,
location=low,
corner=round,
%radius=.5fw,
radius=\dimexpr\framedwidth/2\relax,
offset=none]
\starttext
\dostepwiserecurse{0}{9}{1}{#1 = \textcircled{#1}\blank}
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: LUA API for page numbers
Excerpts from Wolfgang Schuster's message of May 21, 2024 3:54 pm:
> Luc Chabassier schrieb am 21.05.2024 um 15:35:
>> Excerpts from Hans Hagen's message of May 21, 2024 11:45 am:
>>> concerning notes in the margin ... did you try the built in magin text
>>> mechanisms?
>> I did, but as far as I know they place the text on the margin next to
>> the \inmargin invocation in the text, so they may overlap, which is what
>> I want to avoid.
>
> \setupmarginblocks[inbetween=]
>
> \starttext
>
> \dorecurse{100}
>{\bold{#1:} \samplefile{ward}%
> \startmarginblock Note #1\stopmarginblock
> \par}
>
> \stoptext
I did not know about margin blocks, they are nice. But is there a way to
place them next to the \startmarginblock invocation, instead of flushing
them all either to the top or bottom of the page ?
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[NTG-context] Re: Special charakter
Am 18.05.24 um 14:53 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
Thanks to all of you for your hints and comments!
I thought \l does work, why \L does not.
To type \L is faster than changing the keyboard language when I write
in German normally.
try
\def\L{\char"0141}
but I have no real knowledge about ConTeXt ...
Herbert
Greetings
Am 18.05.24 um 13:33 schrieb Bruce Horrocks:
On 18 May 2024, at 11:54, Thomas Meyer wrote:
I know I can copy and paste it, like here (copied from Wikipedia), but if I
don't have a template in a hurry ...
On the Mac, if you are using an 'English' keyboard, you can hold down any letter
for half a second or so and see a popup selection of alternate accented versions of
that letter. Not all text editors / word processors support it but TeXShop does. No
need for cut & paste templates.
—
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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
On 17 May 2024, at 21:40, garu...@azules.eu wrote: > > I have tested on 2 pages : > - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Sciences (only mathematics part) > - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts > > After these tests, I think this may help users to find their way around the > various sources of documentation : > In one small table he/she has an overview of the documentation for a given > topic, : > - the few key tutorials > - link to one "main wiki page" about the topic > - the few key manuals > - the reference for commands The fonts page is a lot better than before[1], IMHO. I would prefer the table were 90% width rather than 50 but that is minor. So is the plan to go through each of the main headings in the left side-bar and make the same type of change? > > I'm not sure I've selected the few documents that are considered by the > community as the key tutorials. > Thanks for your feedback again. I don't think that is a problem - the Wiki can be updated by others as long as the layout/structure of the page is clear so people know where to add links. > PS : in order to benefit from mediawiki page organization features, I moved > some pages, for example > wiki.contextgarden.net/blablabla > ==> wiki.contextgarden.net/Topic/blablabla [1] Previous style for reference: <https://web.archive.org/web/20231116125758/https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts> — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Why is only the first frame protruding into the margin?
On 5/17/24 20:46, madiazm.eo...@gmail.com wrote:
> [...]
> here is the last part of my script (the prior definitions are not
> problematic, since they worked when only using "miFuente". It seems to
> be something in "miCorm" that produces the protruding
Just a comment about typescripts.
At least in how I use ConTeXt, I live happily without having to use them.
See the following sample:
\definefontfamily[libertin][rm][Libertinus Serif]
\definefontfamily[libertin][ss][Libertinus Sans]
\definefontfamily[libertin][tt][Libertinus Mono]
\definefontfamily[cormora][rm][Cormorant]
\setupbodyfont[cormora]
\starttext
\input zapf\par
\switchtobodyfont[libertin]
\doloopoverlist{\rm,\ss,\tt}
{\recursestring\input zapf\par}
\stoptext
You may define font families (which are actually typeface families).
I think they may be easier to use than typefaces.
Just in case it might help,
Pablo
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I have tested on 2 pages : - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Sciences (only mathematics part) - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts After these tests, I think this may help users to find their way around the various sources of documentation : In one small table he/she has an overview of the documentation for a given topic, : - the few key tutorials - link to one "main wiki page" about the topic - the few key manuals - the reference for commands I'm not sure I've selected the few documents that are considered by the community as the key tutorials. Thanks for your feedback again. PS : in order to benefit from mediawiki page organization features, I moved some pages, for example wiki.contextgarden.net/blablabla ==> wiki.contextgarden.net/Topic/blablabla ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] update
Hi,
This weekends update:
- we're currently checking the upcoming math manual and in the process
we streamline some mechanisms
- as part of the BT presentation about par passes we introduced
\toddlerpenalty but we leave it to the user to guess what that is (it
fits into widow, club and orphan penalty collection)
- we could already produce pdf 2.0 but especially when one mises with
older files, some care is needed; the inclusion 'compact' mechanism has
been cleaned up a bit and the merge interface is converging (it has to
do with efficient font sharing, cleanup and fixing of files outside our
control); when one has issues with inclusion, try with compact= (set to
nothing)
- although we're mostly done with tagging it will get some attention as
we go; it's mostly about playing safe and getting valid pdf's
- for rhaban (posters) another fancy feature was added:
\startTEXpage[offset=1ts]
\samplefile{tufte}\removeunwantedspaces\space
\startshadow[contrastcolor=red,weight=100]\blue\samplefile{tufte}\removeunwantedspaces\stopshadow\space
\samplefile{tufte}\removeunwantedspaces\space
\startshadow[contrastcolor=red,weight=100,dx=0,dy=0]\blue\samplefile{tufte}\removeunwantedspaces\stopshadow\space
\samplefile{tufte}
\blank
\setupshadows[shadowed][unit=pt,dx=.5,dy=-.5,weight=200]
\shadowed{\bfd Tufte\setstrut\strut}
\stopTEXpage
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[NTG-context] Re: Why is only the first frame protruding into the margin?
thanks Wolfgang for your advice and sorry for being so verbose, but since the margins are "included" in the problem I decided to put my layout there too. I made your suggested changes and unfortunately it doesnt work, but being a bit surprised by the margins I printed a copy of the page and still worse... It semms that the first frame is good aligned to the specified margin, and it is the rest of the text that gets more than 5mm extra space at the right margin and about 2 mm less in the left margin. I think the printer is a bit involved too, but since in the pdf we can see this protruding I think there must be something strange to get this outcome. The papers are for my fellows, so it is not critical if it stays so, but since I'm trying to learn a bit more to use context, it annoys me that I don't get to understand some problems... thanks again for taking time ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Fwd: outlinetext broken?
On 5/13/2024 11:54 PM, Jairo A. del Rio wrote: -- Forwarded message - De: *Jairo A. del Rio* <mailto:jairoadelr...@gmail.com>> Date: lun, 13 may 2024 a la(s) 9:53 p.m. Subject: Re: outlinetext broken? To: Hans Hagen mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> Hi, Hans! Thank you for the update! I'm curious about the following issue: when I use Latin Modern (by default), a thick, filled line is drawn next to the radical. However, when I use another font such as TeX Gyre Schola, I get something similar to outlines-003.pdf, which is, in turn, similar to the result of applying PDF effects. So, shouldn't this result be the default? Thanks a lot again. it depends on how a radical is composed; we try create an extensible using snippets which looks better in the case of fontd where rules (have to) have roun dcorners etc Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fwd: outlinetext broken?
-- Forwarded message - De: Jairo A. del Rio Date: lun, 13 may 2024 a la(s) 9:53 p.m. Subject: Re: outlinetext broken? To: Hans Hagen Hi, Hans! Thank you for the update! I'm curious about the following issue: when I use Latin Modern (by default), a thick, filled line is drawn next to the radical. However, when I use another font such as TeX Gyre Schola, I get something similar to outlines-003.pdf, which is, in turn, similar to the result of applying PDF effects. So, shouldn't this result be the default? Thanks a lot again. Best regards, Jairo El sáb, 11 may 2024 a la(s) 10:04 p.m., Hans Hagen (j.ha...@xs4all.nl) escribió: > On 5/11/2024 8:33 PM, Jairo A. del Rio wrote: > > As for the current ConTeXt, the example above still produces the wrong > > output. Can anyone reproduce this case? Thank you in advance. > It's a bit tricky but this is what i can get ... see attached. > > (You have to wait till a next upload.) > > Hans > > > - >Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Metapost limitation ?
Hi,
On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 6:24 PM Fabrice Couvreur <
fabrice1.couvr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> With Okular, it works !
Very good. You can still try the thing below:
\startluacode
local exp = math.exp
local N = 1000
local xstep = 1.6/N
local ystep = 1.8/N
local xmin = 0.3
local ymin = 0.4
local function f(x,y)
local x = xstep*x - xmin
local y = ystep*y - ymin
local z = x + exp(-60*x) - y
if z > 0 then
return '1'
else
return '0'
end
end
potrace.setbitmap("mybitmap", potrace.contourplot(N,N,f))
\stopluacode
\startMPpage[offset=1dk]
path p ; p := lmt_potraced [
stringname = "mybitmap",
value = "1",
tolerance = 0.1,
threshold = 0.2,
optimize = true,
] ;
p := p xsized 10cm ;
draw p withpen pencircle scaled 5 withcolor "darkblue" ;
drawpoints p withcolor "orange" ;
drawpointlabels p ;
p := subpath(6,19) of p ;
draw p withpen pencircle scaled 3 withcolor "yellow" ;
\stopMPpage
Another thing, Hans added nocycle, so you can write your loop if you want
to use it as something like
def compute_curve(suffix f)(expr xmin, xmax, xinc) =
for x=xmin step xinc until xmax:
(x,f(x)) ..
endfor nocycle ;
enddef;
Then you do not need to think about the first and/or last point separately.
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[NTG-context] Re: Metapost limitation ?
With Okular, it works ! Le dim. 12 mai 2024 à 17:55, Hans Hagen a écrit : > On 5/12/2024 5:36 PM, Fabrice Couvreur wrote: > > Sorry for the comment ! > > I use Evince > so how about okular or mupdf > > - >Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Metapost limitation ?
On 5/12/2024 5:36 PM, Fabrice Couvreur wrote: Sorry for the comment ! I use Evince so how about okular or mupdf - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: regular online meet-up
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[NTG-context] regular online meet-up
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[NTG-context] Hbox error with itemized list on second page
Hello,
I'm attempting to format a resume in Context building off of a template I found
online. I'm having an odd error with some bullets on the second page, however.
I'm guessing it has something to do with my \definelayout for the second (and
subsequent) pages, but I can't figure it out for sure. What is happening is
that whichever bullets are at the top of the second page are being wrapped as
if they were appearing on the first page, which has a different layout
structure.
I've pasted a sanitized version of the tex file below. Any assistance would be
greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Ross Schulman
\usemodule[ipsum]
\setuppapersize[letter]
\setuppagenumbering[location=]
\definelayout[first]
[% horizontal
backspace=2.5in,
leftmargin=1.75in,
leftmargindistance=0.25in,
width=5.5in,
rightmargin=0in,
% vertical
topspace=0pt,
header=1.2in,
headerdistance=.1in,
height=middle,
footerdistance=0pt,
footer=\lineheight,
bottomspace=.5in]
\definelayout[rest]
[% horizontal
leftmargin=0in,
width=6.5in,
rightmargin=0in,
% % vertical
topspace=0pt,
header=1in,
headerdistance=.1in,
height=middle,
footerdistance=0pt,
footer=\lineheight,
bottomspace=.3in]
\definelayout[1][first]
\definelayout[2][rest]
\setupmarginblock
[location=left,
width=\leftmarginwidth,
align=flushright]
\usecolors[svg]
\definehead[contacts][title]
\setuphead
[contacts]
[
align=center,
page=no,
after={\thinrule\blank[big]}]
\definehead[topic][subject]
\setuphead
[topic]
[
after={\hairline}]
\defineitemgroup
[timeline]
[before=,
inbetween=,
width=6em]
\setuplines[before=,after=,command=\strut]
\definelayer[mybkgr][x=0mm,y=0mm,
width=\paperwidth,height=\paperheight]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background={mybkgr}]
\starttext
\setlayerframed
[mybkgr]
[]
[background=color,
framecolor=forestgreen,
backgroundcolor=forestgreen,
foregroundcolor=white,
width=\paperwidth,
height=\dimexpr\topspace+\headerheight\relax]
{\dontleavehmode{\tfd ROSS SCHULMAN}\blank[medium]
policy technologist
}
\startmarginblock
\topic{CONTACT}
\startlines
1234 Main St NW
Washington, DC 20011
\stoplines
\topic{LANGUAGES}
\startlines
English (Native Speaker)
Spanish (Conversational)
\stoplines
\topic{TECH}
\startlines
Rust
Javascript \letterampersand\space Typescript
Linux Administration
Google and Microsoft Office Suites
\stoplines
\stopmarginblock
\setupalign[flushleft]
\topic{EXPERIENCE}
\starttimeline
\sym{2021--Now}\color[forestgreen]{Lorem Ipsum Foundation}\hfill
\color[darkgrey]{\tfx San Francisco, CA (remote)}
Senior Fellow
\startitemize[packed]
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\stopitemize
\sym{2015--2021}\color[forestgreen]{Other Place About Lorem}\hfill
\color[darkgrey]{\tfx Washington, DC}
Senior Lorem Counsel
\startitemize[packed]
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\stopitemize
\sym{2014--2015}\color[forestgreen]{Lorems R Us}\hfill
\color[darkgrey]{\tfx Washington, DC}
Lorem Manager
\startitemize[packed]
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\stopitemize
\sym{2010--2014}\color[forestgreen]{Computer and Communications Industry
Association}\hfill
\color[darkgrey]{\tfx Washington, DC}
Lorem Project Manager
\startitemize[packed]
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\stopitemize
\sym{2005--2007}\color[forestgreen]{Center for Lorem Ipsum}\hfill
\color[darkgrey]{\tfx Washington, DC}
Program Associate
\startitemize[packed]
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\item \ipsum[alternative=words, n=10, inbetween=\space] \par
\stopitemize
\stoptimeline
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: statistical charts module re-published
Hi Tomáš, thank you, I updated the information at https://codeberg.org/fiee/context-statistical-charts and also published the new version to https://modules.contextgarden.net (i.e. installation with "mtxrun --script install-modules --install statistical-charts" will now install the current version). Best, Hraban Am 28.04.24 um 13:58 schrieb Tomáš Hála: Hi Hraban and all, the server akela at our university is not absolutely down but avialable from the university intranet (or via VPN) only, unfortunately. When you wrote the second email (the first one I accidentally missed in the flood of other messages, sorry about that) I was just in the middle of cleaning data and migrating them to other sites. At the same time, Tamara and I fixed some small things and we publish a new version of this module containing our work from the last year. The official site for statistical-charts module is now www.thala.cz/statcharts, available also via www.konvoj.cz/statcharts, and mirrored at user.mendelu.cz/thala/statcharts. Best, Tomáš On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 08:54:46PM +, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Hi, since the Akela server at Mendel University is down since a while, I got no response from Tomáš, and it would be a pity to lose this module, I re-published the statistical charts module at https://codeberg.org/fiee/context-statistical-charts I’ll also put it on modules.contextgarden.net This is version 0.31, tagged by me as 2020-09-11 (date of the presentation). I’m sure there’s a newer version somewhere, at least at Ramkumar’s, and I’d like to update the repo to that. Also the sources for the documentation are missing. Authors, please help me save your work! Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Define a new command that inherits from multiple other command options
Thanks for your reply. The kanji part requires a specific font and typescript file, which I defined on my own computer but forgot to add to this example. This is something I didn't take into account. It's true, I need to think about what exactly my command needs, not build an all-powerful command. It's my poor consideration. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: wrong spacing after command with optional arguments
Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 19:04:
On 4/26/24 18:18, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 17:29:
What is wrong in my definition above?
There is nothing wrong, this is just a side effect of the scanner used
with the \do...groupempty commands. To have more control about this
behavior use the \tolerant modifier for \def to change it.
Many thanks for your reply, Wolfgang.
I tried this approach (I hope it isn’t wrong):
\starttext
\expanded\tolerant\def\MyCommand#_#,#_#,#_#,#_{%
\doiftextelse{#4}%
{#4}
{\doiftextelse{#3}
{#3}
{#2}}}
The \expanded modifier is wrong (I guess you meant \unexpanded) but
which check for the number of arguments you use doesn't matter in a
document.
The LMTX version of the \iffourthargument etc. checks is the
\ifarguments commands where you use \or to set a case for the number of
argument passed.
\protected\tolerant\def\MyCommand#_#,#_#,#_#,#_%
{\ifarguments
% no arguments are passed
\or
#1% one argument is passed
\or
#2% two arguments are passed
\or
#3% three arguments are passed
\or
#4% four arguments are passed
\fi}
\MyCommand{}{second}{third}{fourth},\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third}{fourth} e,\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third},\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third} e,\\
\MyCommand{}{second},\\
\MyCommand{}{second} e,\\
\stoptext
BTW, this is the first time I see #_ instead of #1.
There is no way to search for "#_" in the wiki.
Grepping the source, "#_" seems to be used for optional arguments
(mainly in syst-aux.mkxl).
But what are these "#_" (which don’t seem to come from TeX)?
Hans added many additions to command parameters in Luametatex and #_
means the argument to a commands has to be enclosed in braces while #1
allows you to pass text without it.
In the following example \CommandA take in the first case "a" as
argument while CommandB ignores it and would only accept "{a}" with
braces around it.
begin example
\def\CommandA#1{(#1)}
\tolerant\def\CommandB#_{(#1)}
\starttext
\CommandA abc\par
\CommandB abc\blank
\CommandA {ab}c\par
\CommandB {ab}c\blank
\stoptext
end example
You can find a list with all new command parameters in lowlevel-macros.pdf.
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: wrong spacing after command with optional arguments
On 4/26/24 18:18, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 17:29:
>> What is wrong in my definition above?
>
> There is nothing wrong, this is just a side effect of the scanner used
> with the \do...groupempty commands. To have more control about this
> behavior use the \tolerant modifier for \def to change it.
Many thanks for your reply, Wolfgang.
I tried this approach (I hope it isn’t wrong):
\starttext
\expanded\tolerant\def\MyCommand#_#,#_#,#_#,#_{%
\doiftextelse{#4}%
{#4}
{\doiftextelse{#3}
{#3}
{#2}}}
\MyCommand{}{second}{third}{fourth},\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third}{fourth} e,\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third},\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third} e,\\
\MyCommand{}{second},\\
\MyCommand{}{second} e,\\
\stoptext
BTW, this is the first time I see #_ instead of #1.
There is no way to search for "#_" in the wiki.
Grepping the source, "#_" seems to be used for optional arguments
(mainly in syst-aux.mkxl).
But what are these "#_" (which don’t seem to come from TeX)?
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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[NTG-context] Re: wrong spacing after command with optional arguments
Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 17:29:
Dear list,
I have the following sample:
\starttext
\def\MyCommand{\doquadruplegroupempty\doMyCommand}
\def\doMyCommand#1#2#3#4{%
\iffourthargument
#4%
\orelse\ifthirdargument
#3%
\else
#2%
\fi}
\MyCommand{}{second}{third}{fourth},\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third}{fourth} e,\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third},\\
\MyCommand{}{second}{third} e,\\
\MyCommand{}{second},\\
\MyCommand{}{second} e,\\
\stoptext
I don‘t know why only the command gets the space after right only when
the four arguments are provided.
What is wrong in my definition above?
There is nothing wrong, this is just a side effect of the scanner used
with the \do...groupempty commands. To have more control about this
behavior use the \tolerant modifier for \def to change it.
begin example
\tolerant\def\CommandA#_#*#_#*#_#*#_{(#1)(#2)(#3)(#4)}
\tolerant\def\CommandB#_#,#_#,#_#,#_{(#1)(#2)(#3)(#4)}
\starttext
A: \CommandA{a} xxx\par
B: \CommandB{a} xxx\blank
A: \CommandA{a}{b} xxx\par
B: \CommandB{a}{b} xxx\blank
A: \CommandA{a}{b}{c}xxx\par
B: \CommandB{a}{b}{c}xxx\blank
A: \CommandA{a}{b}{c}{d} xxx\par
B: \CommandB{a}{b}{c}{d} xxx\blank
\stoptext
end example
Another way to avoid this is to create a command with a key-value list.
begin example
\tolerant\def\Command[#1]%
{\begingroup
\getdummyparameters[#1]%
\doifsomething{\dummyparameter{a}}{(\dummyparameter{a})}%
\doifsomething{\dummyparameter{b}}{(\dummyparameter{b})}%
\doifsomething{\dummyparameter{c}}{(\dummyparameter{c})}%
\doifsomething{\dummyparameter{d}}{(\dummyparameter{d})}%
\endgroup}
\starttext
\Command[a=1,b=2,c=3,d=4] xxx\par
\Command[a=1,c=3] xxx\par
\stoptext
end example
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: utiliydata
On 4/25/2024 9:25 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
Nope, very sorry, can’t figure it out… I see job.register, I see I can access
structures.refrences.collected, but what about the next level
utilitydata.structures.references.collected={
[""]={
[“REF"]={
What does the empty key do? And how do I retrieve the value of
REF.references.realpage?
Thomas
Sigh, as always: just when I had hit “send,” I figured it out:
structures.references.collected[""][REF].references.realpage
But I’m not sure if there is an easier/better way. And I still would like to
know what the empty string as key does.
it's the prefix (namespace) which here is empty (easier to use "" as key
than have some exception)
Hans
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[NTG-context] Re: utiliydata
>
> Nope, very sorry, can’t figure it out… I see job.register, I see I can access
> structures.refrences.collected, but what about the next level
>
> utilitydata.structures.references.collected={
> [""]={
> [“REF"]={
>
> What does the empty key do? And how do I retrieve the value of
>
> REF.references.realpage?
>
> Thomas
Sigh, as always: just when I had hit “send,” I figured it out:
structures.references.collected[""][REF].references.realpage
But I’m not sure if there is an easier/better way. And I still would like to
know what the empty string as key does.
Thomas
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[NTG-context] Re: utiliydata
> On 24. Apr 2024, at 17:59, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> grep for "job." (i bet you can figure it out and compensate the embaressment
> that way)
>
> Hans
Nope, very sorry, can’t figure it out… I see job.register, I see I can access
structures.refrences.collected, but what about the next level
utilitydata.structures.references.collected={
[""]={
[“REF"]={
What does the empty key do? And how do I retrieve the value of
REF.references.realpage?
Thomas
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[NTG-context] Re: minwidth not working ?
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Wolfgang Schuster > Gesendet: Samstag, 20. April 2024 11:56 > An: Denis Maier > Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users ; denis.ma...@unibe.ch > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Re: minwidth not working ? > > Denis Maier schrieb am 19.04.2024 um 22:55: > > >> Wolfgang Schuster hat am > >> 19.04.2024 20:32 CEST geschrieben: > >> denis.ma...@unibe.ch schrieb am 10.04.2024 um 12:47: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Shouldn’t minwidth set a default minimal width for external figures? > >>> But this here does not work > >>> > >>> [...] > >>> > >>> Am I missing something here? > >> > >> There are no minwidth/minheight values for \externalfigure. > >> > >> Wolfgang > >> > > So the wiki is wrong here? > > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupexternalfigure > > Yes the comment at the end of page is wrong and the text about the strut > setting can also be removed, only the orientation value is missing in the > command table. > > Wolfgang Thanks you for the clarification, Wolfgang. I've changed the wiki page. Best, Denis ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: [off topic] non-English programming languages: Arab and Cuneiform
Oh, I do, fascinating stuff! Regarding languages, I also came by a very interesting writing system, called Ditema tsa Dinoko, designed to write different african languages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ditema_tsa_Dinoko Not really a programming language, but I could see one developing from this, and it would be gorgeous. El sáb, 20 abr 2024 a las 16:52, Henning Hraban Ramm () escribió: > Came across this, I guess some of you might find it interesting: > > https://nas.sr/%D9%82%D9%84%D8%A8/ > > https://github.com/MrLogarithm/emeszida > > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > > ___ > -- Andrés Conrado Montoya Andi Kú andresconr...@gmail.com http://sesentaycuatro.com http://messier87.com http://chiquitico.org Los fines no justifican los medios, porque la medida verdadera de nuestro carácter está dada por los medios que estamos dispuestos a utilizar, no por los fines que proclamamos. “You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch.’” — Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: minwidth not working ?
Denis Maier schrieb am 19.04.2024 um 22:55: Wolfgang Schuster hat am 19.04.2024 20:32 CEST geschrieben: denis.ma...@unibe.ch schrieb am 10.04.2024 um 12:47: Hi, Shouldn’t minwidth set a default minimal width for external figures? But this here does not work [...] Am I missing something here? There are no minwidth/minheight values for \externalfigure. Wolfgang So the wiki is wrong here? https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupexternalfigure Yes the comment at the end of page is wrong and the text about the strut setting can also be removed, only the orientation value is missing in the command table. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Weird (?) float placement for specific widths of image
Hi again,
just a quick follow up on this one. Can anyone reproduce this?
Would be good to know how this can be fixed. I have this in a real document,
and as I'm typesetting a XML source I cannot just adjust slightly adjust the
dimensions to get rid of that.
Best,
Denis
Von: denisma...@mailbox.org
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. April 2024 13:37
An: 'ntg-context@ntg.nl'
Betreff: Weird (?) float placement for specific widths of image
Hi,
another graphics/floats question: consider the following example
%
\setupexternalfigures
[location={local,global,default}]
\starttext
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
height=.5\textheight,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
height=.3\textheight,
%height=.4\textheight,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
width=3cm,
%width=2cm,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm]}
\stoptext%
On the first page, the images appear stacked above each other while on the
second page they appear next to each other.
It took me some time to reproduce this behaviour, and I can't claim to
understand what is happening. But it seems to be related to the specific
widths of the images. When I change them to other values the behaviour
disappears. Is this a bug? Anything I can do about this?
Best
Denis
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[NTG-context] Re: How to isolate serious errors from warnings?
On 4/18/2024 8:26 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 18.04.24 um 02:09 schrieb Joel via ntg-context: I'm about to have a lengthy (2,000+ page) document published. Normally if it compiles and looks okay, I regard that as meaning no errors appeared, but I've noticed that sometimes ConTeXt will still compile, even if something isn't displayed on screen as it should: (1) I tried placing a table inside a startitemize environment, as instead of it not compiling, it left a message in the document warning that wasn't supported. (2) In another case, I had an image that ConTeXt couldn't find, as I mispelled the filenmame, and it fully compiled and made a PDF, without me noticing. (3) Or maybe in some case, a font couldn't be found for a specific character, so a single character in the file isn't displaying. Those are just some examples; I intended for something to be printed on the PDF, but it isn't showing there. Since a document of this size will have a lot of messages, is there a way to adjust the settings, from "show everything" to "show some" to "show only serious errors"? Or maybe to use > to send the errors to another file for careful study? (using Linux if that matters) You can enable trackers like \enabletrackers[figures.*] But that just gives more log messages for debugging. You get the list of all trackers with: context --global m-trackers.mkiv For your use case, directives are more helpful, like \enabledirectives[logs.errors=*] (i.e. break at every error) AFAIK that just handles missing characters, references and modules ATM, but this information might be outdated. You get all directives with context --global m-directives.mkiv often the log files has some summaries at the end - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: How to isolate serious errors from warnings?
Am 18.04.24 um 02:09 schrieb Joel via ntg-context: I'm about to have a lengthy (2,000+ page) document published. Normally if it compiles and looks okay, I regard that as meaning no errors appeared, but I've noticed that sometimes ConTeXt will still compile, even if something isn't displayed on screen as it should: (1) I tried placing a table inside a startitemize environment, as instead of it not compiling, it left a message in the document warning that wasn't supported. (2) In another case, I had an image that ConTeXt couldn't find, as I mispelled the filenmame, and it fully compiled and made a PDF, without me noticing. (3) Or maybe in some case, a font couldn't be found for a specific character, so a single character in the file isn't displaying. Those are just some examples; I intended for something to be printed on the PDF, but it isn't showing there. Since a document of this size will have a lot of messages, is there a way to adjust the settings, from "show everything" to "show some" to "show only serious errors"? Or maybe to use > to send the errors to another file for careful study? (using Linux if that matters) You can enable trackers like \enabletrackers[figures.*] But that just gives more log messages for debugging. You get the list of all trackers with: context --global m-trackers.mkiv For your use case, directives are more helpful, like \enabledirectives[logs.errors=*] (i.e. break at every error) AFAIK that just handles missing characters, references and modules ATM, but this information might be outdated. You get all directives with context --global m-directives.mkiv Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] How to isolate serious errors from warnings?
I'm about to have a lengthy (2,000+ page) document published. Normally if it compiles and looks okay, I regard that as meaning no errors appeared, but I've noticed that sometimes ConTeXt will still compile, even if something isn't displayed on screen as it should: (1) I tried placing a table inside a startitemize environment, as instead of it not compiling, it left a message in the document warning that wasn't supported. (2) In another case, I had an image that ConTeXt couldn't find, as I mispelled the filenmame, and it fully compiled and made a PDF, without me noticing. (3) Or maybe in some case, a font couldn't be found for a specific character, so a single character in the file isn't displaying. Those are just some examples; I intended for something to be printed on the PDF, but it isn't showing there. Since a document of this size will have a lot of messages, is there a way to adjust the settings, from "show everything" to "show some" to "show only serious errors"? Or maybe to use > to send the errors to another file for careful study? (using Linux if that matters) --Joel ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
Le 17/04/2024 à 13:57, Bruce Horrocks a écrit : On 14 Apr 2024, at 12:21, garu...@azules.eu wrote: Hi all, I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : I'd be more confident if you had started by saying "I've been using the Diátaxis for the last ten years and have used it on multiple projects". ;-) - https://www.diataxis.fr/ - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 2017 As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation by clarifying the purpose of each element. So I started a potential new "welcome page" : https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 The main lines would be : - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal with "how-to" cases, e.g. : - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to reallocate existing contents. Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. I'm going to be devil's advocate and say that the Context documentation is *already* in the Diátaxis framework - just not in one place on the Wiki. - There are at least two books, and a third being written but not yet released: these fit into the Tutorials and Explanation quadrants. - There are "My Way" guides linked from the Wiki and the PragmaADE website that fit into the "How-To Guides" quadrant. - thank you for these reminders - And the wiki itself is the "Reference" quadrant. Clearly these can always be better but they are there already. My recommendation would be to use the wiki as the reference quadrant and, apart from the first few "main pages" for people who land there from a web search, it should focus on being the reference manual. Beginners should be directed to the books. - Thanks again, the comments are helping to identify a robust method of distributing content across the quadrants. - exactly, it's not a question of proposing new documents, but of proposing another complementary way of accessing and browsing existing ones. - Actually, the wiki is (or can be) a hub for the 4 needs: - "Reference" like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead - "How-To Guides" like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles - "Tutorials": - hosted https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Detailed_Example - linked https://github.com/mpsmath/stepbystep - "Explanation" : mostly linked manuals and books https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead and https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles are examples of how difficult it can be to understand where to find a particular information. It might be worth keeping only the key examples on reference pages like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/*** and moving the "how-to" examples to a separate page (or pages). Regards, — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
> On 14 Apr 2024, at 12:21, garu...@azules.eu wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : I'd be more confident if you had started by saying "I've been using the Diátaxis for the last ten years and have used it on multiple projects". ;-) > - https://www.diataxis.fr/ > - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon > 2017 > > As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation > by clarifying the purpose of each element. > > So I started a potential new "welcome page" : > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 > > The main lines would be : > - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples > - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... > - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals > - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to > mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source > - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands > - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F > > To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should > be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", > for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal > with "how-to" cases, e.g. : > - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead > - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles > > If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to > reallocate existing contents. > > Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. I'm going to be devil's advocate and say that the Context documentation is *already* in the Diátaxis framework - just not in one place on the Wiki. - There are at least two books, and a third being written but not yet released: these fit into the Tutorials and Explanation quadrants. - There are "My Way" guides linked from the Wiki and the PragmaADE website that fit into the "How-To Guides" quadrant. - And the wiki itself is the "Reference" quadrant. Clearly these can always be better but they are there already. My recommendation would be to use the wiki as the reference quadrant and, apart from the first few "main pages" for people who land there from a web search, it should focus on being the reference manual. Beginners should be directed to the books. Regards, — Bruce Horrocks Hampshire, UK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Most recent context doesn't like synctex?
Hi Mikael (and other synctex users), On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 22:28 (+0200), Mikael Sundqvist wrote: > Hi, > On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 7:54 PM Jim wrote: >> Thanks for the quick reply. >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 09:18 (+0200), Hans Hagen wrote: >>> On 4/13/2024 12:39 AM, Jim wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I have both TeXlive 2024 and the stand-alone ConTeXt distribution on my >>>> system. >>>> Recently, the stand-alone ConTeXt distribution seems to not create a >>>> synctex file any more. Specifically, >>>> /usr/local/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/context --once --texutil >>>> --synctex=1 --nonstop file.tex >>>> does not create a .synctex file (and deletes it, if it is there), whereas >>>> the TeXlive version >>>> /usr/local/texlive/2024/bin/x86_64-linux/context --once --texutil >>>> --synctex=1 --nonstop nwg_newsletter_2024_04.tex >>>> does create the .synctex file. >>>> The ConTeXt distribution version *does* create the file if --nonstop is >>>> *not* used. Knowing that, I can work around this for now, although >>>> emacs+auctex probably won't be happy without --nonstop. >>>> I updated the stand-alone ConTeXt a few minutes ago, so I'm up to date on >>>> that. >>>> Is this a bug introduced by some recent change? >>> it's more a feature >> I guess one person's bug is another person's feature. :-) >>> - Mikael S and i spend some time with editor/viewer combinations on linux in >>> order to find ways around the different synctex libs that they use >>> - as a result we could make most work ok >> Are these recent changes? And should emacs+auctex+PDFview work now? > What will work will depend on the viewers. We noticed a few weeks ago > that synctex (pdf -> editor) was not working in a few viewers (okular) > while it was working in others. After some debugging, our conclusion > was that different versions of the library/application were used, or > different approaches. We found a way to generate the stuff in the pdf > to make it work for the failing viewers we had. Hans did then not > replace this with the old approach, since then the previously working > viewers might break. He therefore added repeat as a key, so > \setupsynctex[state=repeat] will use the new approach. Thanks for that clarification. >>> - we assume that synctex is set up in the document with >>> \setupsynctex[state=start] >>> \setupsynctex[state=repeat] % less efficient but gets around issue >> I haven't been using either of those, since auctex does The Right Thing for >> me. Or, at least, it used to. >>> - when context is run 'headless' (on a server) it's often done in >>> batchmode because one knows that the style works and in that case synctex >>> makes no sense so we disable it; this avoids the need to patch the style >> I (think I) see what you are saying, but if one explicitly uses --synctex >> on the command line, should that not over-ride the over-ride? Or, put >> another way, would the following not make sense: >> if --synctex is used on the command line >> create synctex file >> else if --nonstop is used on the command line >> do not create the synctex file >> else if \setupsynctex[...] is used in the source file >> create the synctex file >> else >> do not create the synctex file >>> - the manual has been updates > workflows-synctex.tex now suggests: > "When your viewer doesn't return to the editor, you can try > \starttyping > \setupsynctex[state=repeat] > \stoptyping > or > \starttyping > context --synctex=repeat somefile.tex > \stoptyping > This will give a bit larger file that tries to fool the areas resolver in the > library that the viewer uses." Looking at two synctex files, it would seem that the state=repeat version creates a synctex file that has syntax matching the "original" synctex format. And you are right, the file is bigger. In any case, now that I know what is going on, I have convinced auctex to play nicely with the new way of doing things, and so all is now good. Question for anyone who made it down this far: Is there a mailing list or other way that a ConTeXt user can find out about non-backward-compatible changes like this? I wasted a fair amount of time tracking this problem down (*), and if there is some other mailing list I should be subscribed to, I'd love to know about it. (*) Unfortunately, this change to ConTeXt happened around the same time I upgraded emacs from 27.2 to 29.3, and when things didn't work I upgraded auctex from 13.
[NTG-context] Re: Most recent context doesn't like synctex?
Hraban and any emacs users: On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 11:56 (+0200), Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Am 13.04.24 um 22:28 schrieb Mikael Sundqvist: >> What will work will depend on the viewers. We noticed a few weeks ago >> that synctex (pdf -> editor) was not working in a few viewers (okular) >> while it was working in others. > Could you please tell us which combinations of viewers and editors you > checked and how to configure them to make it work? The --synctex=repeat option outputs a synctex file that works with auctex' epdfinfo program, so (at least when using PDFview) forward and backward search now work with emacs+auctex, at least when you (a) put (setq ConTeXt-texexec-option-nonstop "") in your ConTeXt mode hook (or some other sensible place), and (b) edit the ConTeXt-expand-options defun in auctex' context.el (or redefine the function in some hook) to replace --synctex=1 with --synctex=repeat I have submitted a bug report to auctex about (b) and another item, but I have no idea if/when the fixes will make it into a new release of auctex. Jim ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
It would be great if the main page actually said what Context does. > On 15/04/2024, at 2:18 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > > Hi Garulfo, > > I’m not against the “new order”, but I’d keep the colorful subject tiles. > Different accesses are good IMO (as long as it doesn’t get to convoluted). > > I’d say updating, sorting, restructuring pages is more important than a new > start page. > > Yes, please sort out reference vs. tutorials! > > Often examples make sense in the reference pages, so the distinction is a bit > fuzzy, but there are enough where a subject/tutorial page would make more > sense than examples spread over several single command pages. > > We could also define if the “main” reference page (with examples) is > \definestuff, \setupstuff, or \stuff – IMO \setupstuff makes the most sense, > since usually the others inherit from it. > > Often enough, parameters aren’t explained in the reference pages; sometimes > you can find examples using them, but there are too many holes. I tried to > fix that where I could, but too often I don’t understand enough of the > sources to make sense of some setting. > > For wiki contributors, it might make sense to combine the markup pages – in > many pages e.g. is used where would make more > sense; often \starttext … \stoptext is not necessary and just blows up > examples; markup is generally somewhat chaotic (e.g. , , or ``?). > > Hraban > >> Am 14.04.24 um 13:21 schrieb garu...@azules.eu: >> I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : >> - https://www.diataxis.fr/ >> - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon >> 2017 >> As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the >> documentation by clarifying the purpose of each element. >> So I started a potential new "welcome page" : >> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 >> The main lines would be : >> - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples >> - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not >> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... >> - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals >> - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to >> mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source >> - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands >> - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F >> To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages >> should be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", >> for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to >> deal with "how-to" cases, e.g. : >> - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead >> - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles >> If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to >> reallocate existing contents. >> Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. >> Garulfo >> ___ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl >> webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) >> archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context >> wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net >> ___ > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
Hi Garulfo, I’m not against the “new order”, but I’d keep the colorful subject tiles. Different accesses are good IMO (as long as it doesn’t get to convoluted). I’d say updating, sorting, restructuring pages is more important than a new start page. Yes, please sort out reference vs. tutorials! Often examples make sense in the reference pages, so the distinction is a bit fuzzy, but there are enough where a subject/tutorial page would make more sense than examples spread over several single command pages. We could also define if the “main” reference page (with examples) is \definestuff, \setupstuff, or \stuff – IMO \setupstuff makes the most sense, since usually the others inherit from it. Often enough, parameters aren’t explained in the reference pages; sometimes you can find examples using them, but there are too many holes. I tried to fix that where I could, but too often I don’t understand enough of the sources to make sense of some setting. For wiki contributors, it might make sense to combine the markup pages – in many pages e.g. is used where would make more sense; often \starttext … \stoptext is not necessary and just blows up examples; markup is generally somewhat chaotic (e.g. , , or ``?). Hraban Am 14.04.24 um 13:21 schrieb garu...@azules.eu: I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : - https://www.diataxis.fr/ - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 2017 As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation by clarifying the purpose of each element. So I started a potential new "welcome page" : https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 The main lines would be : - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal with "how-to" cases, e.g. : - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to reallocate existing contents. Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. Garulfo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - question about Command/ pages which start with a space character
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 14.04.2024 um 14:53: Am 14.04.24 um 14:46 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: garu...@azules.eu schrieb am 14.04.2024 um 12:41: Hi all, Is it on purpose that 128 pages "https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/ " start with a space character ? I didn't find an explanation in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command For example, these two pages exist : - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_startbuffer If it is on purpose: - What is the purpose, and which page should contain which documentation? The command pages which start with an underscore are probably leftovers when Taco changed a page from manual command descriptions to auto generated tables. In the process to change the page he makes a copy of the current page with an underscore at the beginning which is deleted after the change but it's possible he forgot to delete a few of them. When you notice no difference between both versions of a command page you can delete all of the forgotten pages. No! These are the general pages in opposite to instance pages, e.g. "startsection" and "startchapter" are instances of "_startsection"? https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_placefloat is the general page for the instances placefigure, placetable etc. My bad, thank you for the correction! Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - question about Command/ pages which start with a space character
Am 14.04.24 um 14:46 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: garu...@azules.eu schrieb am 14.04.2024 um 12:41: Hi all, Is it on purpose that 128 pages "https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/ " start with a space character ? I didn't find an explanation in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command For example, these two pages exist : - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_startbuffer If it is on purpose: - What is the purpose, and which page should contain which documentation? The command pages which start with an underscore are probably leftovers when Taco changed a page from manual command descriptions to auto generated tables. In the process to change the page he makes a copy of the current page with an underscore at the beginning which is deleted after the change but it's possible he forgot to delete a few of them. When you notice no difference between both versions of a command page you can delete all of the forgotten pages. No! These are the general pages in opposite to instance pages, e.g. "startsection" and "startchapter" are instances of "_startsection"? https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_placefloat is the general page for the instances placefigure, placetable etc. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - question about Command/ pages which start with a space character
garu...@azules.eu schrieb am 14.04.2024 um 12:41: Hi all, Is it on purpose that 128 pages "https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/ " start with a space character ? I didn't find an explanation in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command For example, these two pages exist : - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_startbuffer If it is on purpose: - What is the purpose, and which page should contain which documentation? The command pages which start with an underscore are probably leftovers when Taco changed a page from manual command descriptions to auto generated tables. In the process to change the page he makes a copy of the current page with an underscore at the beginning which is deleted after the change but it's possible he forgot to delete a few of them. When you notice no difference between both versions of a command page you can delete all of the forgotten pages. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation
Hi all, I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework : - https://www.diataxis.fr/ - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 2017 As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation by clarifying the purpose of each element. So I started a potential new "welcome page" : https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2 The main lines would be : - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ... - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides", for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal with "how-to" cases, e.g. : - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to reallocate existing contents. Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. Garulfo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Wiki - question about Command/ pages which start with a space character
Hi all, Is it on purpose that 128 pages "https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/ " start with a space character ? I didn't find an explanation in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command For example, these two pages exist : - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startbuffer - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/_startbuffer If it is on purpose: - What is the purpose, and which page should contain which documentation? If it is not: - Is there a way to automatically merge the content of the couple of pages, and to remove the "wrong" pages, or should it be done manually ? Thanks for your help. List : Command/ attachment Command/ background Command/ bar Command/ beginblock Command/ button Command/ characterkerning Command/ comment Command/ completecombinedlist Command/ completelistoffloats Command/ completelistofsorts Command/ completelistofsynonyms Command/ completeregister Command/ copylabeltext Command/ ctxfunction Command/ ctxfunctiondefinition Command/ currentlabel Command/ delimitedtext Command/ description Command/ enumeration Command/ fence Command/ fraction Command/ framed Command/ framedtext Command/ getbuffer Command/ hbox Command/ help Command/ high Command/ highlight Command/ label Command/ labellanguage Command/ labeltext Command/ labeltexts Command/ language Command/ leftlabeltext Command/ linenote Command/ low Command/ lowhigh Command/ lowmidhigh Command/ margindata Command/ mathcommand Command/ mathdoubleextensible Command/ mathextensible Command/ mathframed Command/ mathmatrix Command/ mathornament Command/ mathoverextensible Command/ mathovertextextensible Command/ mathradical Command/ mathtriplet Command/ mathunderextensible Command/ mathundertextextensible Command/ mathunstacked Command/ nextparagraphs Command/ note Command/ ornament Command/ paragraphs Command/ placecombinedlist Command/ placefloat Command/ placelistoffloats Command/ placelistofsorts Command/ placelistofsynonyms Command/ placement Command/ placepairedbox Command/ placeregister Command/ presetlabeltext Command/ referenceformat Command/ register Command/ rightlabeltext Command/ script Command/ section Command/ seeregister Command/ setupcombinedlist Command/ setupitemgroup Command/ setuplabeltext Command/ setuppairedbox Command/ setupregister Command/ shift Command/ sorting Command/ startattachment Command/ startbackground Command/ startbuffer Command/ startcolumnset Command/ startcomment Command/ startdelimitedtext Command/ startdescription Command/ starteffect Command/ startenumeration Command/ startfittingpage Command/ startfloattext Command/ startformula Command/ startframedtext Command/ starthelp Command/ startindentedtext Command/ startitemgroup Command/ startlabeltext Command/ startlinenote Command/ startlines Command/ startmakeup Command/ startmathalignment Command/ startmathcases Command/ startmathmatrix Command/ startmixedcolumns Command/ startnarrower Command/ startnote Command/ startpagecolumns Command/ startparagraphs Command/ startparallel Command/ startplacefloat Command/ startplacepairedbox Command/ startsection Command/ startsectionblock Command/ startstartstop Command/ startstop Command/ startstyle Command/ starttabulate Command/ starttextbackground Command/ starttyping Command/ startviewerlayer Command/ startxtable Command/ stoplinenote Command/ style Command/ synonym Command/ textbackground Command/ textnote Command/ tooltip Command/ type Command/ typebuffer Command/ unit ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Back in the 90s
On 4/13/2024 2:12 PM, Riviera Taylor wrote: Hello, I was reading about the history of ConTeXt in the Not So Short Introduction To ConTeXt and I have a historical question. I noticed that the PDF specification was published in 1993 yet ConTeXt was invented in 1991. The book suggests that PDF output was handled by the PdfTeX engine in MKII in 2005. What sort of output did the software produce before PdfTeX was introduced? Was this the same as the output produced by the software before the publication of the PDF specification? 2005 is when we started with luatex which is a follow up on pdftex, and pdftex is more a mid 90's thing; we immediately adopted pdftex (which made some believe that context depended on pdftex which is not true) anyway, we started with dvi which needs a postprocessor to go to some printer format like specific hp or more general postscript but also can drive viewers we went from epson dot matrix printer -> early 300 dpi laser -> 600 dpi laser printer -> high speed oce 512 dpi printer (metric) -> high speed oce 600 dpi printer (+ crappy canon color laser printer) -> fast page-wide hp color inkjet office printer in mkii all is controlled by backend drivers, that use so called specials to support color, hyperlinks, images so a workflow can have - dvipsone : high quality postscript - dviwindo : viewer with typeone support and hyperlinks - acrobat : postscript to pdf and as all these external backends have their demands we could handle all these things in an abstract way (that way one could also drive printer properties like duplex or paper bins etc from a tex job) that meant that when pdf came around we could almost immediately support most of the interactive features in a dvi -> ps -> acrobat workflow when pdftex came around the intermediate step of postscript could be avoided which btw was also possible with dvipdfm(x) so we also supported that so to summarize, it went from tex -> dvi -> printer format tex -> dvi -> postscript -> more generic printer format tex -> dvi -> pdf -> print from acrobat tex -> pdf -> print from pdf viewer in the meantime we are pdf (as from that one can produce other formats) Hans (btw, the fact that we could easily support pdf was also a reason why at that time some adobe folk in nl used documents produced by context to show somewhat extrems usage of interactive features, thanks to the fact that tex can adapt to such new situations, also via the dvi route in this case with pdfmarks; at that time pdf usage - and features - was a bit more dualistic: ps replacement format versus storage and preview format, but that's a different story; but it still shows in how the standard evolved) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Back in the 90s
Hello, I was reading about the history of ConTeXt in the Not So Short Introduction To ConTeXt and I have a historical question. I noticed that the PDF specification was published in 1993 yet ConTeXt was invented in 1991. The book suggests that PDF output was handled by the PdfTeX engine in MKII in 2005. What sort of output did the software produce before PdfTeX was introduced? Was this the same as the output produced by the software before the publication of the PDF specification? Kind regards, Riviera she, her, hers https://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:River ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Weird (?) float placement for specific widths of image
Hi,
another graphics/floats question: consider the following example
%
\setupexternalfigures
[location={local,global,default}]
\starttext
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
height=.5\textheight,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
height=.3\textheight,
%height=.4\textheight,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][
width=3cm,
%width=2cm,
]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm]}
\placefigure{A Cow}{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm]}
\stoptext%
On the first page, the images appear stacked above each other while on the
second page they appear next to each other.
It took me some time to reproduce this behaviour, and I can't claim to
understand what is happening. But it seems to be related to the specific
widths of the images. When I change them to other values the behaviour
disappears. Is this a bug? Anything I can do about this?
Best
Denis
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[NTG-context] Re: regular online meet-up
reminder: this is tonight (in European perception). Am 07.04.24 um 09:37 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: You’re invited to our regular online meet-up, this upcoming Wednesday, April 10th, 19:00 CEST (UTC+2) at https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke (same, but shorter: https://u.mtxrun.eu/ctxmtg) ConTeXt users of all levels are welcome! Do you have a subject that you’d like to talk about? Looking forward to seeing you, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: international type design
It is an interesting team. 2024年4月5日 02:52, "Henning Hraban Ramm" 写到: > Have a look at these beautiful font designs: > > https://esadtype.esad-amiens.fr/ > > Unfortunately the fonts are not available (yet). > > Take your time to browse the papers about intention, design process etc. > > I just browsed the dissertation about the (Vietnamese) "Dilinh" font and > > found the considerations interesting. > > "Gul" has matching Devanagari & Latin, "Tarisel" has variations from > > readable text to abstracted lombardic unciale, and "Wierd" has matching > > deconstructivist outlines for Arabic & Latin… > > Hraban > > ___ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: Very bizarre bug
On 4/7/2024 10:14 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
On 4/7/24 19:44, Hans Hagen wrote:
ok, so this "on" ... where does it come from .. you can try to run
with \tracingall and then quit the run after the first and search the
log for !on to get a clue
Hans
Found it - and I'm embarrassed to say it was in my own environment file,
not in the lmtx distribution. I have a Lua function that prints
information about the computer model and the operating system into a
layer. Unfortunately, there was an "elseif" in there somewhere which
should catch exceptions (such as a raspberry pi), but instead of
concatenating the relevant return values to display in the layer, I had
a ' context (" on ")' in there (probably for debugging) which I forgot
about.
Sorry for the noise - I was getting too sophisticated for my own good...
No problem, is it a rpi 5? If so, how does that one perform?
Hans
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[NTG-context] Re: Very bizarre bug
On 4/7/24 19:44, Hans Hagen wrote:
ok, so this "on" ... where does it come from .. you can try to run with
\tracingall and then quit the run after the first and search the log for
!on to get a clue
Hans
Found it - and I'm embarrassed to say it was in my own environment file,
not in the lmtx distribution. I have a Lua function that prints
information about the computer model and the operating system into a
layer. Unfortunately, there was an "elseif" in there somewhere which
should catch exceptions (such as a raspberry pi), but instead of
concatenating the relevant return values to display in the layer, I had
a ' context (" on ")' in there (probably for debugging) which I forgot
about.
Sorry for the noise - I was getting too sophisticated for my own good...
Thomas
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[NTG-context] Re: PDF/UA-2, WTPDF
Hi, -- Support for MathML* ha, mml and support for it (comes and goes in browsers) has been if flux for ages (features get added but also removed) so what are we talking about here, maybe in a few decades when people stopped messing with it (and somethign new showed up it might work out -- Support for modern Unicode* i must have missed something (probably ancient unicode) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] regular online meet-up
You’re invited to our regular online meet-up, this upcoming Wednesday, April 10th, 19:00 CEST (UTC+2) at https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke (same, but shorter: https://u.mtxrun.eu/ctxmtg) ConTeXt users of all levels are welcome! Do you have a subject that you’d like to talk about? Looking forward to seeing you, Hraban (Same blurb as always:) [Howto] * No special software installation required; most modern browsers should work (WebRTC required). * Open the URL above, accept the privacy statement, * enter your name, * click "join" (or "start" if you’re the first), * click "with microphone", allow your browser to access it, check the audio. * Your microphone is muted if you join. Activate microphone and/or camera with the buttons at the bottom. * Minimize the default presentation with the "screen" button, bottom right. * If you’d like to share your screen or upload a file, you can make yourself the presenter: Click on your user name, change the setting, then you’ll see the "screen sharing" button beside the camera button; also there’s now "manage presentations" behind the "plus" button. Beware there is only one presenter at a time, so don’t kill someone else’s presentation. [Technical hints] * Sound is usually better if you use a headset (less noise for everyone). * Connection problems are mostly due to low bandwidth or high latency on your side, e.g. with mobile connections. * Sometimes leaving and re-entering helps. * If audio/video doesn’t work for you, you can still use the text chat. * Screen sharing needs a lot of bandwidth. * BigBlueButton documentation applies: https://bigbluebutton.org/teachers/tutorials/ [Netiquette] * Please use a name that we recognize from here. Some feel uncomfortable with anonymous lurkers. * Mute your microphone while you’re not talking. * It’s nice to show your face at least when you join. * If there are connection problems, stop camera sharing. * The room is set to “everyone’s a moderator“, I trust you... ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] PDF/UA-2, WTPDF
Quoting a post by Philipp Kiff, https://mastodon.social/@pkiff/11221949350928: In amongst the release of PDF/UA-2 (PDF for Universal Accessibility) and the new Well-Tagged PDF (WTPDF) standard last month, some PDF professionals may have missed two other new resources that may help explain and view them: 1. Questions and Answers about Tagged PDF from PDF association 2. Acrobat Custom File Info Panels by Peter Wyatt Last month saw the release of PDF/UA-2 and the new Well-Tagged PDF (WTPDF) standard - neither of which revokes PDF/UA-1. And none of those are the same as PDF 1.7 vs 2.0. To many, the landscape of PDF specs may now seem littered with confusing acronyms and versions! For some help disentangling it all, the PDF association has a Questions and Answers about Tagged PDF: https://pdfa.org/resource/tagged-pdf-q-a/ In related news, Peter Wyatt released Acrobat Custom File Info Panels. This is a free extension for Acrobat that adds new panels to the XMP metadata shown when you view File > Properties in Acrobat Pro. The new panels allow you to view the additional conformance claims and dated revisions of ISO standards that can now be included in PDFs, but that aren't currently visible in the standard Acrobat panels. https://pdfa.org/discovering-pdf-metadata/ One thing I realized in reading through the new standards and looking at various sample files this week is that I should probably spend some time learning LaTeX! Both LaTeX and LibreOffice are already capable of producing PDF/UA-2 files, and with some tweaking, LaTeX can produce what appear to be really good WTPDF files. Kudos to both those development teams! https://github.com/latex3/tagging-project/discussions/72 Finally, in case you missed earlier posts from last month, here are links to the official sources for the two new PDF standards that these other resources relate to: 1. PDF/UA-2 https://pdfa.org/iso-14289-2-pdfua-2/ 2. Well-Tagged PDF (WTPDF) https://pdfa.org/wtpdf/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] international type design
Have a look at these beautiful font designs: https://esadtype.esad-amiens.fr/ Unfortunately the fonts are not available (yet). Take your time to browse the papers about intention, design process etc. I just browsed the dissertation about the (Vietnamese) "Dilinh" font and found the considerations interesting. "Gul" has matching Devanagari & Latin, "Tarisel" has variations from readable text to abstracted lombardic unciale, and "Wierd" has matching deconstructivist outlines for Arabic & Latin… Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: last page number for a list
Hi, Bruce—
This does not quite work—the page numbers are those of the first page of
the chapter, not the last. But thanks for the tip about \writetolist.
Perhaps I can get that to work.
What I need are ToC entries like
AuthorName
ShortTitle 1–6
I need this pagination because one of the requirements of continuous
publication on the OJS is that once an item is published changes are not
permitted. So I cannot go with normal continuous publication since, for us
anyway, items are not processed in strict sequential order (e,g., we may
have, paper+paper+ review+paper...)
If it helps: I currently have
\startFMTitle[reference=\Reference, title={}][itemAuthor=AuthorName,
itemTitle=ShortTitle,...]
\setuplist[FMTitle][state=start, alternative=startendfmpages,
criterium=all,]
(\Reference is defined at the in the preamble to input of the
file/component.)
\definelistalternative[startendfmpages][renderingsetup=list:startendfmpages]
\startsetups[list:startendfmpages]
\structurelistuservariable{itemAuthor}\crlf
\structurelistuservariable{itemTitle}\hfill%
\at[\currentlistentrypagenumber]–\at[\lastpagenumber]
\vglue1pc
\stopsetups
where I have \reference[\lastpagenumber]{} at the end of the file. But this
gives me ??–viii (the viii is correct and interactive) for the FMTitle.
Sadly the entries for all my other Titles (SourceTitle, StudyTitle...) is
??–viii.
(Each title is a modified chapter.)
Curiously, \at[\Reference]–\convertnumber{r}{\lastpagenumber} and
\at[\Reference]–\at[\lastpagenumber] work properly in the body text.
The overall structure is project-product sort with many components in the
product.
This is probably TMI. The bottom line is that I am truly stumped.
All best,
Alan
On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 6:56 AM Bruce Horrocks wrote:
>
>
> > On 30 Mar 2024, at 19:59, Alan Bowen wrote:
> >
> > How can I get the last page number of a chapter for a list (ToC)?
> >
> > Outside of a list, I use \lastpagenumber.
> > But that does not work in a list such as the ToC.
> >
> > Any tips or pointers will be gladly received.
>
>
> I'm not quite sure what you want to do with these numbers: something like
> printing out a contents page but instead of the start page of a chapter it
> shows the last page of the chapter?
>
> If so then try creating a custom list and use \writetolist immediately
> before each \stopchapter command?
>
> \definelist[LastPages][criterium=all]
> \starttext
> \completecontent
> \page
> \completelist[LastPages]
> \page
> \dorecurse{10}{
> \startchapter[title={This is my chapter}]
> This is a chapter\par \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth } \input
> math-kontinuitet-sv
>
> \writetolist[LastPages]{3.}{\namedstructurevariable{chapter}{title}}
> \stopchapter
> }
> \stoptext
>
> But I can't get the number option of \writetolist to work - the "3." above
> is ignored. :-(
>
> —
> Bruce Horrocks
> Hampshire, UK
>
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[NTG-context] Re: error with \sc
You shouldn't run context as root in any case. But glad it worked. El mar, 2 abr 2024 a las 15:34, Peter Münster () escribió: > On Tue, Apr 02 2024, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote: > > > mtxrun --script cache --erase && mtxrun --generate > > Thanks. It did not work after doing it as root, but then I saw, that > there is also a cache in the user home-directory, so I’ve done it as the > user too, and now it works. > > -- >Peter > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > > ___ > -- Andrés Conrado Montoya Andi Kú andresconr...@gmail.com http://sesentaycuatro.com http://messier87.com http://chiquitico.org Los fines no justifican los medios, porque la medida verdadera de nuestro carácter está dada por los medios que estamos dispuestos a utilizar, no por los fines que proclamamos. “You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch.’” — Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
On 4/2/2024 7:44 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am 01.04.24 um 18:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 18:29:
Am 01.04.24 um 18:21 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19:
A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to
\start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images.
My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the
source of a presentation from him.
Oh, that’s probably where I saw it, too.
Here is a short example which two other solution to get a similar
effect as \starttextdisplay.
\usemodule[visual]
\setupfloat[figure][location=left]
\starttext
\fakewords{10}{20}
\startlinecorrection
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoplinecorrection
\fakewords{10}{20}
\blank[2*line]
\fakewords{10}{20}
\startplacefigure[location={force,none}]
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stopplacefigure
\fakewords{10}{20}
\blank[2*line]
\fakewords{10}{20}
\starttextdisplay
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoptextdisplay
\fakewords{10}{20}
\stoptext
Thank you!
And when would you suggest what?
A float I’d use only if I need caption/numbering or the floating feature.
When I tried line correction, it never helped; probably I used it wrong
(e.g. around section titles).
linecorrection is older, textdisplay newer and both are mainly meant to
position boxed content (like images) in a way so that spacing looks
acceptable ... they are vboxes with spacing around them so not meant for
e.g. section heads or whatever text; it's for images, framed stuff,
maybe bTABLE etc
Hans
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[NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
Am 01.04.24 um 18:54 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 18:29:
Am 01.04.24 um 18:21 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19:
A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to
\start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images.
My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the
source of a presentation from him.
Oh, that’s probably where I saw it, too.
Here is a short example which two other solution to get a similar effect
as \starttextdisplay.
\usemodule[visual]
\setupfloat[figure][location=left]
\starttext
\fakewords{10}{20}
\startlinecorrection
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoplinecorrection
\fakewords{10}{20}
\blank[2*line]
\fakewords{10}{20}
\startplacefigure[location={force,none}]
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stopplacefigure
\fakewords{10}{20}
\blank[2*line]
\fakewords{10}{20}
\starttextdisplay
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoptextdisplay
\fakewords{10}{20}
\stoptext
Thank you!
And when would you suggest what?
A float I’d use only if I need caption/numbering or the floating feature.
When I tried line correction, it never helped; probably I used it wrong
(e.g. around section titles).
I wanted to document it, but can’t find it in the sources:
The definition is in spac-ver.mkxl.
Thank you!
So, "context --find" does not what I thought it would.
AFAIR the find option searches only the manual sources.
Looks like it. So I should use grep (mtxrun --script grep).
Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 18:29:
Am 01.04.24 um 18:21 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19:
A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to
\start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images.
My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the
source of a presentation from him.
Oh, that’s probably where I saw it, too.
Here is a short example which two other solution to get a similar effect
as \starttextdisplay.
\usemodule[visual]
\setupfloat[figure][location=left]
\starttext
\fakewords{10}{20}
\startlinecorrection
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoplinecorrection
\fakewords{10}{20}
\blank[2*line]
\fakewords{10}{20}
\startplacefigure[location={force,none}]
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stopplacefigure
\fakewords{10}{20}
\blank[2*line]
\fakewords{10}{20}
\starttextdisplay
\fakeimage{4cm}{3cm}{6cm}{4cm}
\stoptextdisplay
\fakewords{10}{20}
\stoptext
I wanted to document it, but can’t find it in the sources:
The definition is in spac-ver.mkxl.
Thank you!
So, "context --find" does not what I thought it would.
AFAIR the find option searches only the manual sources.
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Re: what about "textdisplay"?
Am 01.04.24 um 18:21 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 01.04.2024 um 17:19: A while ago, I was pointed (by Wolfgang or Hans, I guess) to \start/stoptextdisplay to enhance whitespace handling around images. My guess is Mikael because I saw the command the first time in the source of a presentation from him. Oh, that’s probably where I saw it, too. I wanted to document it, but can’t find it in the sources: The definition is in spac-ver.mkxl. Thank you! So, "context --find" does not what I thought it would. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
