Re: [NTG-context] customizing headers/footers first page
Paul Tremblay wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:48:32AM -0500, Steve Grathwohl wrote: How about \definetext[chapterstart][header][First Header] \setuphead[chapter][header=chapterstart] for starters? Steve Thanks. Are there any other location keywords besides chapterstart? %??? \definetext[chapterlast][footer][last footer] \setuphead[chapter][footer=chapterlast] you can have any keyword you want; it's just a reference to what you define and recall later Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] pdf-mode
Adam Lindsay wrote: h h extern said this at Thu, 24 Feb 2005 23:17:41 +0100: I'll add \jobsuffix as systemmode: \startmode[*pdf] ... \startmode[*dvi] ... be aware of the fact that this is only true when a driver is loaded I never was sure of that, by the way: the true output of a xetex job is .xdv It's an opaque format that gets transformed into .pdf after texexec's last run. Is the real jobsuffix (as you define it) pdf or xdv? interesting point, i'd say pdf since that's the final format, and in this case the jobsuffix is an indication of final functionality Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] setting up even and odd pages
Paul Tremblay wrote: I'm confused on setting up even and odd pages. If I wanted to set up a chapter with the first page one way, and even and odd pages another way, how do I do this? Say the first page must start on an odd page. The right margin will be 1 inch. Now the each succeeding left (or even-numbered) page will have a left margin of 1 inch. The right margin (the inner part if it were in a book) should be 1/2 inch. For the right (odd-numbered page), the left margin (the inner part if it were a book) should be 1/2 inch, while the right, outer margin should be 1 inch. There are several methods, like: \setuplayout[left] [] \setuplayout[right][] normally, if your layout is mirrored, setting \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \setuplayout[...] will swap dimensions Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] languages
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
How can I try it (hyphenation)? I did
\enableregime[utf]
\mainlanguage[sl]
\starttext
elezniar
\showhyphens{elezniar}
\showhyphens{zeleznicar}
\showhyphens{mojca pokrajculja}
\stoptext
can you send me a zip with that test file? my mailer cq. cut/paste messes up the
encoding
keep in mind that utf is an input encoding regime, while hyphenation is based on
font encodings; in principle each font encoding that has all chars needed for a
language can be used, but the patterns need to be loaded
also, the name of the pattern files for slovenian have changes (si vs sl), which
is one of the reasons for context going to ship its own pattern files
Hans
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt and DocBook - beginner's questions
Hello everyone, I am new to ConTeXt (I've been tempted to try it out because of a message by Sebastian Rahtz, posted on TEI-L). I admit that so far I have been able to get through only the main manual, but I am very curious about some things and therefore I would really appreciate it if you could answer my questions: 1. I am interested in authoring in XML and than typesetting in ConTeXt. Are there any preferences towards using some particular markup language for typesetting in ConTeXt? Is e.g. using DocBook more preferable that using TEI--from the point of view of typesetting in ConTeXt, of course. 2. Are there any generic tools available (stylesheets etc.) for typesetting DocBook/TEI or does one have to come up with his own stylesheets? I assume that the latter is necessary if one wants to get exactly the layout he wants, but maybe there are some basic stylesheets that one can use as a base for his own ones? 3. Also, I have a more general question -- for some (short) period of time I have been reading both TEI-L and NTG-CONTEXT, all the issues related to typesetting documents marked up in XML are very confusing. Do you know any good manual/tutorial concerned with these issues that I could use a starting point for my studies on the subject? Thank you in advance- -Radek Moszczynski ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Latin5 regime
I need for my job a regime for Latin5 languages (spec. Turkish).
I have made two files regi-lt5.tex and enco-lt5.tex
that seem to do a good work.
Any comment is useful.
luigi
---begin
regi-lt5.tex---
%D \module
%D [ file=regi-lt5,
%Dversion=2005.0.0,
%D title=\CONTEXT\ Encoding Macros,
%D subtitle=TEST fot latin5,
%D author=Luigi Scarso,
%D date=\currentdate,
%D copyright=PRAGMA-ADE]
%C
%C This module is NOT part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package.
%C rif:
%C www.ecma-internaltional.org/pubblications/standards/Ecma-128.htm
%C This module is NOT part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package.
\startregime [latin5]
%% \defineactivetoken 32 {} % SPACE
%% \defineactivetoken 33 {} % EXCLAMATION MARK
%% \defineactivetoken 34 {} % QUOTATION MARK
%% \defineactivetoken 35 {} % NUMBER SIGN
%% \defineactivetoken 36 {} % DOLLAR SIGN
%% \defineactivetoken 37 {} % PERCENT SIGN
%% \defineactivetoken 38 {} % AMPERSAND
%% \defineactivetoken 39 {} % APOSTROPHE
%% \defineactivetoken 40 {} % LEFT PARENTHESIS
%% \defineactivetoken 41 {} % RIGHT PARENTHESIS
%% \defineactivetoken 42 {} % ASTERISK
%% \defineactivetoken 43 {} % PLUS SIGN
%% \defineactivetoken 44 {} % COMMA
%% \defineactivetoken 45 {} % HYPHEN-MINUS
%% \defineactivetoken 46 {} % FULL STOP
%% \defineactivetoken 47 {} % SOLIDUS
%% \defineactivetoken 48 {} % DIGIT ZERO
%% \defineactivetoken 49 {} % DIGIT ONE
%% \defineactivetoken 50 {} % DIGIT TWO
%% \defineactivetoken 51 {} % DIGIT THREE
%% \defineactivetoken 52 {} % DIGIT FOUR
%% \defineactivetoken 53 {} % DIGIT FIVE
%% \defineactivetoken 54 {} % DIGIT SIX
%% \defineactivetoken 55 {} % DIGIT SEVEN
%% \defineactivetoken 56 {} % DIGIT EIGHT
%% \defineactivetoken 57 {} % DIGIT NINE
%% \defineactivetoken 58 {} % COLON
%% \defineactivetoken 59 {} % SEMICOLON
%% \defineactivetoken 60 {} % LESS-THAN SIGN
%% \defineactivetoken 61 {} % EQUALS SIGN
%% \defineactivetoken 62 {} % GREATER-THAN SIGN
%% \defineactivetoken 63 {} % QUESTION MARK
%% \defineactivetoken 64 {} % COMMERCIAL AT
%% \defineactivetoken 65 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A
%% \defineactivetoken 66 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER B
%% \defineactivetoken 67 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C
%% \defineactivetoken 68 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D
%% \defineactivetoken 69 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E
%% \defineactivetoken 70 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER F
%% \defineactivetoken 71 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER G
%% \defineactivetoken 72 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H
%% \defineactivetoken 73 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I
%% \defineactivetoken 74 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER J
%% \defineactivetoken 75 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER K
%% \defineactivetoken 76 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L
%% \defineactivetoken 77 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER M
%% \defineactivetoken 78 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER N
%% \defineactivetoken 79 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O
%% \defineactivetoken 80 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P
%% \defineactivetoken 81 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Q
%% \defineactivetoken 82 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R
%% \defineactivetoken 83 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER S
%% \defineactivetoken 84 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER T
%% \defineactivetoken 85 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U
%% \defineactivetoken 86 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER V
%% \defineactivetoken 87 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER W
%% \defineactivetoken 88 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER X
%% \defineactivetoken 89 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y
%% \defineactivetoken 90 {} % LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Z
%% \defineactivetoken 91 {} % LEFT SQUARE BRACKET
%% \defineactivetoken 92 {} % REVERSE SOLIDUS
%% \defineactivetoken 93 {} % RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET
%% \defineactivetoken 94 {} % CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT
%% \defineactivetoken 95 {} % LOW LINE
%% \defineactivetoken 96 {} % GRAVE ACCENT
%% \defineactivetoken 97 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER A
%% \defineactivetoken 98 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER B
%% \defineactivetoken 99 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER C
%% \defineactivetoken 100 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER D
%% \defineactivetoken 101 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER E
%% \defineactivetoken 102 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER F
%% \defineactivetoken 103 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER G
%% \defineactivetoken 104 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER H
%% \defineactivetoken 105 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER I
%% \defineactivetoken 106 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER J
%% \defineactivetoken 107 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER K
%% \defineactivetoken 108 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER L
%% \defineactivetoken 109 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER M
%% \defineactivetoken 110 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER N
%% \defineactivetoken 111 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER O
%% \defineactivetoken 112 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER P
%% \defineactivetoken 113 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER Q
%% \defineactivetoken 114 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER R
%% \defineactivetoken 115 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER S
%% \defineactivetoken 116 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER T
%% \defineactivetoken 117 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER U
%% \defineactivetoken 118 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER V
%% \defineactivetoken 119 {} % LATIN SMALL LETTER W
%% \defineactivetoken 120 {} % LATIN SMALL
Re: [NTG-context] Latin5 regime
luigi.scarso wrote: I need for my job a regime for Latin5 languages (spec. Turkish). I have made two files regi-lt5.tex and enco-lt5.tex that seem to do a good work. Any comment is useful. do you also need a real font encoding (i.e. an enc file and a real enco-lt5 file); this depends on availability of the glyphs you need in other encodings as well as hyphenation; [for instance, are all \namedchars you need part of texnsnsi and/or ec?] ---begin regi-lt5.tex--- looks ok to me enco-lt5.tex--- % temporary module, needed for downward compatibility \input regi-lt5.tex \enableregime[latin5] \endinput this one is not needed Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Latin5 regime
Hans Hagen wrote: do you also need a real font encoding (i.e. an enc file and a real enco-lt5 file); this depends on availability of the glyphs you need in other encodings as well as hyphenation; [for instance, are all \namedchars you need part of texnsnsi and/or ec?] I should like to do this by myself:what can I do ? (I must do this pdf with an Helvetica like fonts (I use \setupbodyfont[pos,ss,11pt] and an old context distro, TeXExec 3.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002)). luigi.scarso wrote: %C This module is NOT part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package. %C rif: %C www.ecma-internaltional.org/pubblications/standards/Ecma-128.htm %C This module is NOT part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package. do you want this module to be part of the distribution? if so I will change these lines Hans absolutely yes: I want this module to be part of the distribution. luigi ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX
Would someone be able to take lettrine.sty as an example and produce a version that works with ConTeXt (and plain TeX)? Thanks, G ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX
Hoi Gerben, Probably, but .. I do not know what it is that lettrine does that \DroppedCaps does not do. Please do not assume that context users have any specific knowledge of what latex packages do. Gerben Wierda wrote: Would someone be able to take lettrine.sty as an example and produce a version that works with ConTeXt (and plain TeX)? Thanks, G ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and DocBook - beginner's questions
Hi Radoslaw, I think we are on the same mailing list and got the same message from Sebastain. We are discovering ConTeXt both at the same time. For starters, you can look here: http://contextgarden.net/XML http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-mag-9.htm As the author of the second page concedes, you need somewhat complicated syntax to directly map XML to ConTeXt. Many of the examples mix XML and non XML. There is a solution that I personally think is simpler, TeXML. In this method, you convert TEI (or other forms of XML) to TeXML, a specialized form of XML. You then run the TeXML processor, which converts this to a plain old ConTeXt document. The advantage of this method is that you are converting from an XML tree to an XML tree, which is always easier than converting from XML to text. Have a look at: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1232812forum_id=352892 http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=427786 and of course http://getfo.sourceforge.net/texml/index.html I am working on a document that explains how to convert XML to ConTeXt. The document will explain how to one would do something in FO and then how you would do the same in ConTeXt. It will be a rough document because I am just learning myself, but it will be a start. Paul -Original Message- From: Radoslaw Moszczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:34:41 +0100 Subject: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and DocBook - beginner's questions Hello everyone, I am new to ConTeXt (I've been tempted to try it out because of a message by Sebastian Rahtz, posted on TEI-L). I admit that so far I have been able to get through only the main manual, but I am very curious about some things and therefore I would really appreciate it if you could answer my questions: 1. I am interested in authoring in XML and than typesetting in ConTeXt. Are there any preferences towards using some particular markup language for typesetting in ConTeXt? Is e.g. using DocBook more preferable that using TEI--from the point of view of typesetting in ConTeXt, of course. 2. Are there any generic tools available (stylesheets etc.) for typesetting DocBook/TEI or does one have to come up with his own stylesheets? I assume that the latter is necessary if one wants to get exactly the layout he wants, but maybe there are some basic stylesheets that one can use as a base for his own ones? 3. Also, I have a more general question -- for some (short) period of time I have been reading both TEI-L and NTG-CONTEXT, all the issues related to typesetting documents marked up in XML are very confusing. Do you know any good manual/tutorial concerned with these issues that I could use a starting point for my studies on the subject? Thank you in advance- -Radek Moszczynski ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and DocBook - beginner's questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said this at Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:17:29 -0500: As the author of the second page concedes, you need somewhat complicated syntax to directly map XML to ConTeXt. Many of the examples mix XML and non XML. You guys are aware of foXet, right? That's ConTeXt's XSL-FO processor module. As part of writing that module, Hans really streamlined the XML mapping to TeX commands. As a result, I'm becoming more and more of a fan of a streamlined XML markup that works in parallel with the ConTeXt idiom. Hans began that with ContML, a simplified XML structure for basic documents, mirroring familiar ConTeXt commands (take a look at the x- contml.tex source). He enabled a lot more with the tricks features in This Way #9 (the magazine link). I extended ContML a little more using those foXet tricks with my t-oo-03 module. It was primarily intended to process XSLT-mediated output from a GUI Outline editor, but the underlying format seems like a good jumping- off point for other formats as well. http://oo2contml.sourceforge.net/ http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/oo2contml/oo2contml-source.zip (I didn't put too much effort into making my code readable, but I hope it gives an idea of how easily XML parameters can be changed into ConTeXt parameters. I can provide sample documents to interested people to show the general XML format.) I plan on documenting the ConTeXt/XML side (rather than the user side) of it a bit more, but I'm a bit over-committed, at the moment! There is a solution that I personally think is simpler, TeXML. In this method, you convert TEI (or other forms of XML) to TeXML, a specialized form of XML. You then run the TeXML processor, which converts this to a plain old ConTeXt document. The advantage of this method is that you are converting from an XML tree to an XML tree, which is always easier than converting from XML to text. That's nice. I wasn't aware of that project before. The format looks superficially similar to Hans's foXet extensions. I am working on a document that explains how to convert XML to ConTeXt. The document will explain how to one would do something in FO and then how you would do the same in ConTeXt. It will be a rough document because I am just learning myself, but it will be a start. Oh, nice... I look forward to seeing that. Sounds like a good My Way candidate at some point. adam -Original Message- From: Radoslaw Moszczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:34:41 +0100 Subject: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and DocBook - beginner's questions Hello everyone, I am new to ConTeXt (I've been tempted to try it out because of a message by Sebastian Rahtz, posted on TEI-L). I admit that so far I have been able to get through only the main manual, but I am very curious about some things and therefore I would really appreciate it if you could answer my questions: 1. I am interested in authoring in XML and than typesetting in ConTeXt. Are there any preferences towards using some particular markup language for typesetting in ConTeXt? Is e.g. using DocBook more preferable that using TEI--from the point of view of typesetting in ConTeXt, of course. 2. Are there any generic tools available (stylesheets etc.) for typesetting DocBook/TEI or does one have to come up with his own stylesheets? I assume that the latter is necessary if one wants to get exactly the layout he wants, but maybe there are some basic stylesheets that one can use as a base for his own ones? 3. Also, I have a more general question -- for some (short) period of time I have been reading both TEI-L and NTG-CONTEXT, all the issues related to typesetting documents marked up in XML are very confusing. Do you know any good manual/tutorial concerned with these issues that I could use a starting point for my studies on the subject? Thank you in advance- -Radek Moszczynski ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Python,swig and pdftex ?
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and DocBook - beginner's questions
-Original Message- From: Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Radoslaw Moszczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:48:36 + Subject: Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and DocBook - beginner's questions [EMAIL PROTECTED] said this at Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:17:29 -0500: As the author of the second page concedes, you need somewhat complicated syntax to directly map XML to ConTeXt. Many of the examples mix XML and non XML. You guys are aware of foXet, right? That's ConTeXt's XSL-FO processor module. As part of writing that module, Hans really streamlined the XML mapping to TeX commands. As a result, I'm becoming more and more of a fan of a streamlined XML markup that works in parallel with the ConTeXt idiom. Hans began that with ContML, a simplified XML structure for basic documents, mirroring familiar ConTeXt commands (take a look at the x- contml.tex source). He enabled a lot more with the tricks features in This Way #9 (the magazine link). Sorry to be dense, but I can't find this. Could you give me a link? It looks like ContML is just for math? I extended ContML a little more using those foXet tricks with my t-oo-03 module. It was primarily intended to process XSLT-mediated output from a GUI Outline editor, but the underlying format seems like a good jumping- off point for other formats as well. http://oo2contml.sourceforge.net/ http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/oo2contml/oo2contml-source.zip (I didn't put too much effort into making my code readable, but I hope it gives an idea of how easily XML parameters can be changed into ConTeXt parameters. I can provide sample documents to interested people to show the general XML format.) I plan on documenting the ConTeXt/XML side (rather than the user side) of it a bit more, but I'm a bit over-committed, at the moment! There is a solution that I personally think is simpler, TeXML. In this method, you convert TEI (or other forms of XML) to TeXML, a specialized form of XML. You then run the TeXML processor, which converts this to a plain old ConTeXt document. The advantage of this method is that you are converting from an XML tree to an XML tree, which is always easier than converting from XML to text. That's nice. I wasn't aware of that project before. The format looks superficially similar to Hans's foXet extensions. I am working on a document that explains how to convert XML to ConTeXt. The document will explain how to one would do something in FO and then how you would do the same in ConTeXt. It will be a rough document because I am just learning myself, but it will be a start. Oh, nice... I look forward to seeing that. Sounds like a good My Way candidate at some point. adam -Original Message- From: Radoslaw Moszczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:34:41 +0100 Subject: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and DocBook - beginner's questions Hello everyone, I am new to ConTeXt (I've been tempted to try it out because of a message by Sebastian Rahtz, posted on TEI-L). I admit that so far I have been able to get through only the main manual, but I am very curious about some things and therefore I would really appreciate it if you could answer my questions: 1. I am interested in authoring in XML and than typesetting in ConTeXt. Are there any preferences towards using some particular markup language for typesetting in ConTeXt? Is e.g. using DocBook more preferable that using TEI--from the point of view of typesetting in ConTeXt, of course. 2. Are there any generic tools available (stylesheets etc.) for typesetting DocBook/TEI or does one have to come up with his own stylesheets? I assume that the latter is necessary if one wants to get exactly the layout he wants, but maybe there are some basic stylesheets that one can use as a base for his own ones? 3. Also, I have a more general question -- for some (short) period of time I have been reading both TEI-L and NTG-CONTEXT, all the issues related to typesetting documents marked up in XML are very confusing. Do you know any good manual/tutorial concerned with these issues that I could use a starting point for my studies on the subject? Thank you in advance- -Radek Moszczynski ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and DocBook - beginner's questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said this at Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:38:27 -0500: Hans began that with ContML, a simplified XML structure for basic documents, mirroring familiar ConTeXt commands (take a look at the x- contml.tex source). He enabled a lot more with the tricks features in This Way #9 (the magazine link). Sorry to be dense, but I can't find this. Could you give me a link? It looks like ContML is just for math? Well, x-contml.tex is in the ConTeXt source tree. (Often we'll talk about filenames like x-contml, type-exa, and m-layout on the list. They have an implied .tex extension and are (almost) all found in your updated TeX tree, in tex/context/base.) You can have an XML document/fragment like: context:text context:sectionA Sample Document/context:section context:include name=knuth type=tex/ context:subsectionSomething deeper/context:subsection context:pSome text with context:ememphasis/context:em and context:typesome/context:type other context:bstyle/context:b. context:itemize type=n context:itemOh look, a list/context:item context:itemWith three items, which/context:item context:itemHardly seems worth the effort./context:item /context:itemize /context:p /context:text and run it with: texexec --pdf --use=contml filename.xml So ContML is not just about math at all. For (XML) math, you want to go to the MathML modules, which are in the xtag-mm* ConTeXt files. The interesting things come when you use mappings akin to the ones here: http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-mag-9.htm and my stuff that I plugged earlier. Not only can you use XML for structural markup, but (with a little work) you can use it for simple style configuration, like this in front of a document similar to the above: config:setupwhitespace dimension=big/ config:definetypeface name=charter/ config:definetypeface family=sans name=helvetica rscale=0.91/ config:setupbodyfont size=12pt/ config:setuphead label=section style=tfb alternative=inmargin/ config:setuphead label=subsection style=ita alternative=inmargin/ config:setuplayout label=preset-2-2 columns=8/ config:enablelayout label=preset-2-2/ context:articleheader title=On ContML author=Adam T. Lindsay date=February 25, 2005/ This will look *very* familiar to ConTeXt users, and some of them might even find this syntax easier to remember than with some of ConTeXt's commands. One of the key ideas to take away from ConTeXt's XML manual http:// www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-15.htm is that there are *many* different paths to take when processing XML. You can now take a 100% XML path with XSL-FO, now, but that misses out on so much of ConTeXt's excellent capabilities. Hope that helps, adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Probably, but .. I do not know what it is that lettrine does that \DroppedCaps does not do. Hello Taco, could you please give an example how to do the same with \DroppedCaps, what is shown on page 30 of http://pmrb.free.fr/work/cours/latex-intro.pdf ? Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX
Ah ok, I see. No you cannot do that with DroppedCaps, as is. Will post something later ... Taco Peter Münster wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Probably, but .. I do not know what it is that lettrine does that \DroppedCaps does not do. Hello Taco, could you please give an example how to do the same with \DroppedCaps, what is shown on page 30 of http://pmrb.free.fr/work/cours/latex-intro.pdf ? Peter ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX
Dear listmembers,
I am not quite yet a ConTeXt user (struggling with the installation),
but having a background as typographer, graphic designer, and printer, I
feel that the lettrine.sty package could serve very well as a model for
something similar in ConTeXt.
At any rate, in order to produce high quality intitials, a ConTeXt
equivalent should not have any less parameters than lettrine.sty.
To re-cap the parameters in lettrine.sty:
==
- lines=integer sets how many lines the dropped capital will occupy
(default=2);
- lhang=decimal (0 lhang = 1) sets how much of the dropped
capitals width should hang into the margin (default=0);
- loversize=decimal (-1 loversize = 1) enlarges the dropped
capitals height: with loversize=0.1 its height is enlarged by 10% so
that it raises above the top paragraphs line (default=0);
- lraise=decimal does not affect the dropped capitals height, but
moves it up (if positive), down (if negative); useful with capitals like
J or Q which have a positive depth, (default=0);
- findent=dimen (positive or negative) controls the horizontal gap
between the dropped capital and the indented block of text
(default=0pt);
- nindent=dimen shifts all indented lines, starting from the second
one, horizontally by dimen (this shift is relative to the first line,
default=0.5em);
- slope=dimen can be used with dropped capitals like A or V to add
dimen (positive or negative) to the indentation of each line starting
from the third one (no e
ect if lines=2, default=0pt);
- ante=text can be used to typeset text before the dropped capital
(typical use is for French guillemets starting the paragraph);
- image=true (new to version 1.6) will force \lettrine to replace the
letter normally used as dropped capital by an image in eps format
(latex) or in pdf, jpg, etc. format (pdflatex); this needs the graphicx
package to be loaded in the preamble of course.
\lettrine[image=true]{A}{n exemple} or just \lettrine[image]{A}{n
exemple} will load A.eps or A.pdf instead of letter A. This was
suggested by Bill Jetzer. Redefining \LettrineFont as \LettrineFontEPS
still works for compatibility but is deprecated.
==
Also, sometimes one wants to indent all indented lines to the same
position (instead of intenting the first line less) and this should
ideally be possible too.
Plus setting a specific color for the initial, but that is handled by
ConTeXt's standard features (I guess).
Best regards,
Mats Broberg
Ah ok, I see. No you cannot do that with DroppedCaps, as is.
Will post something later ...
Taco
Peter Münster wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Probably, but .. I do not know what it is that lettrine does that
\DroppedCaps does not do.
Hello Taco,
could you please give an example how to do the same with
\DroppedCaps,
what is shown on page 30 of
http://pmrb.free.fr/work/cours/latex-intro.pdf ? Peter
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Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX
Mats Broberg wrote: I am not quite yet a ConTeXt user (struggling with the installation), but having a background as typographer, graphic designer, and printer, I feel that the lettrine.sty package could serve very well as a model for something similar in ConTeXt. ... basically you want to follow a shape; this is not that hard to implement so i can have a look at it; lettrines is then an instance of it Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX
Hans Hagen wrote: basically you want to follow a shape; this is not that hard to implement so i can have a look at it; lettrines is then an instance of it Lettrine is easier than that, actually. I thought this would be quite funny, so here is a brand new module called t-lettri.tex, and an example. Greetings, Taco t-lettri.tex Description: TeX document drop.tex Description: TeX document ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and DocBook - beginner's questions
One of the key ideas to take away from ConTeXt's XML manual http:// www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-15.htm is that there are *many* different paths to take when processing XML. But this makes me confused. You can have context:text and fx:text. If I am understanding things correctly, each of these namespaces refers to a document that already pre-defines the mapping. I could also make up my own mapping, and use the namespace paul:myElement? Although this allows each user to create his own XML vocabulary, I would argue that such an XML vocabulary already exists: FO. The FO XML language is well-thought out and thorough. I see no sense in developing completely differnt XML vocabularies as work arounds until fotex is mature enough to handle the FO vocabulary directly. Creating these workaround vocabularies adds another layer to processing and seems to add to the complexity of processing XML. It seems simpler to think in terms of raw (non XML) ConTeXt. That way, if you have a question about formatting, you will find the answer relatively easy on the mailing list. I hope I am understanding things correctly. I want to develop a sound XML = ConTeXt strategy, so don't want to overlook any of ConTeXt's native XML abiblities. You can now take a 100% XML path with XSL-FO, now, but that misses out on so much of ConTeXt's excellent capabilities. Yes, I completely agree. Paul -- *Paul Tremblay * [EMAIL PROTECTED]* ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] languages
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:23:09 +0100, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Attached is an xml file that describes the hyphenation pattern files. I'd appreciate checking (some records are incomplete). I'd also like to add (for each language) a couple of tricky hyphenatable words [for testing]. Preferable in utf-8 encoding. There is room for more comments as well, like: prefered input and font encodings etc. Hans Hi Hans, Vietnamese lang uses empty hyphenation pattern. FYI, Q. ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:04:11 +0100, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
basically you want to follow a shape; this is not that hard to implement
so i can have a look at it; lettrines is then an instance of it
Lettrine is easier than that, actually. I thought this would be quite
funny, so here is a brand new module called t-lettri.tex, and an example.
Just tried 2 attached files and I see error:
...
system (E-TEX) : [line 2280] \ifcsname
protect 4 protect 3)
specials: fdf loaded
unprotect 3 protect 3)
specials: fdf,tpd loaded
)
system : macros of module lettri loaded
(./t-lettri.tex
! Illegal parameter number in definition of \LettrineFontEPS.
to be read again
1
l.99 \def\LettrineFontEPS{#1
}{%
?
In the src t-lettri.tex if I change
\def\LettrineFontEPS{#1}{%
to
\def\LettrineFontEPS#1{%
It works fine ;)
Cheers,
Q.
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Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX
Sorrry about that, last-minute change :-)
VnPenguin wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:04:11 +0100, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the src t-lettri.tex if I change
\def\LettrineFontEPS{#1}{%
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Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX
Hmm, this is great. However, I can't seem to get it to accept an image (Image=true or Image=yes). Anyone else have some luck? On Feb 25, 2005, at 2:28 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Sorrry about that, last-minute change :-) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and DocBook - beginner's questions
Paul Tremblay said this at Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:32:40 -0500: One of the key ideas to take away from ConTeXt's XML manual http:// www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-15.htm is that there are *many* different paths to take when processing XML. But this makes me confused. Sorry, I was writing for a couple different people, and sometimes being expansive and descriptive (look at all the possibilities!) is less useful than being prescriptive (thou shalt...), especially if you're a newcomer wondering about how (one way) to do things. Chances are, you'll find one or two favoured ways of doing things, and use that constellation of solutions for your documents. You can have context:text and fx:text. These namespaces contain elements with different levels of abstraction. ContML is higher-level, more structural, fx (just a demonstration, so far) was a bit more low-level, somewhere between ConTeXt and FO. If I am understanding things correctly, each of these namespaces refers to a document that already pre-defines the mapping. I could also make up my own mapping, and use the namespace paul:myElement? Yes. Although this allows each user to create his own XML vocabulary, This is one of the biggest blessings and curses of XML. Having helped design an ISO standard using XML, this had an immense effect on what we did. Yes, it's a standard, but how can we be sure that people don't try to create documents with other, private elements? I would argue that such an XML vocabulary already exists: FO. The FO XML language is well-thought out and thorough. I see no sense in developing completely differnt XML vocabularies as work arounds until fotex is mature enough to handle the FO vocabulary directly. FO isn't for everyone. In fact, some here have a rather poor opinion of it. (I tend to agree, but let's try to steer away from a flame war.) However, XSL-FO is rather indisputably a page layout vocabulary, and not semantic/structured markup. If you're from the TEI world, I don't need to go further there. Creating these workaround vocabularies adds another layer to processing and seems to add to the complexity of processing XML. Depends on the source format. I use that extended ContML as an intermediate format, because I'm converting from a much more complex file format that doesn't make the document structure very transparent. That suits my needs well. It seems simpler to think in terms of raw (non XML) ConTeXt. That way, if you have a question about formatting, you will find the answer relatively easy on the mailing list. True. It's one of the reasons why I bring things to my intermediate format that corresponds with ConTeXt macros: I can break into expert ConTeXt to configure things when I want to get sophisticated. I hope I am understanding things correctly. I want to develop a sound XML = ConTeXt strategy, so don't want to overlook any of ConTeXt's native XML abiblities. Different applications mean different strategies. I'm fairly confident you can find what you need somewhere in there... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Strange result with 2 columns and textbackground
Hi,
I do a small test with 2 columns and textbackground :
\setupcolors[state=start]
\definetextbackground[preface]
[backgroundcolor=green,
backgroundoffset=.25cm,
offset=.5cm,
frame=off,
location=paragraph,
color=blue]
\starttext
\chapter{Chapter TEST}
\startcolumns[rule=off,n=2]
\starttextbackground[preface]
\section{tufte.tex}
\input tufte
\section{knuth.tex}
\input knuth
\stoptextbackground
\stopcolumns
\stoptext
-
The result is very strange :
http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/context/test-bgcolor.png
http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/context/test-bgcolor.pdf
I'm wrong some things ?
Thank you,
Q.
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