Re: [NTG-context] XYpic

[luigi.scarso]

Vit, many thanks for your answer.
Vit Zyka wrote:
1. For a moment I set
  shell_escape =f
in `kpsewhich texmf.cnf'
ok, done
2. Input file f.tex:
\startuseMPgraphic{A}
  draw unitcircle scaled\overlaywidth;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\defineoverlay
  [B]
  [\uniqueMPgraphic{A}]
\starttext
  \framed[background=B]{Hallo frame!}
\stoptext
3a. classical run
  texexec --pdf f
No circle under frame,  right? If not, I have a bad installation; please 
discard the rest
(and some hints to repair will be really appreciate :)  ).

3b. step by step
  texexec --pdf --nomp f
  mpost f-mpgraph
  texexec --pdf --nomp f

A circle appear under the frame. But I   have 3  runs ( texexec, mpost, 
texexec).

Now, what is my goal ?
To achieve a circle under the frame  as quick as possible.
For 3.a, in f.log I find
 mpost  -progname=mpost -mem=metafun f-mpgraph
 system()...disabled.
An attempt to run mpost failed: no circle, goal unsatisfied.
For 3.b, I run manually mpost (and then again texexec): goal satisfied.
With shell_export=t, 3.a) is ok, but f.log says
system(mpost  -progname=mpost -mem=metafun f-mpgraph)...executed.
So it seems that my goal can be achieved only with  a run of mpost.
With XYPic, a similar result can be achieved without mpost:
%%
%% WARNING:: deprecated example
%% Don't use it !
%%
\input xy
\xyoption{frame}
\starttext
\xy
(0,0) *++=\hbox{\framed{Hallo frame}} *\frm{o} ;
\endxy
\stoptext
Of course this doesn't mean that XY is better/worse than mpost, nor that
using mpost coupled with context will be always slow than others ways;
but sometimes a faster alternative may be required.
Sure for XYPic, name spaces collisions, cpu/memory required, syntax are 
(some) items
to consider: but it also comes with a bunch of features and may be 
faster than mpost
in some circumstances.

[OT] XFIG: fig2dev can be export to metapost and in multi-metapost.
Hence, from the moon, I see that xfig can be used with context.
luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] MetaPost 0.9 announcement

[Taco Hoekwater]

Vit Zyka wrote:
Just a note. On the sarovar site, documentation page is empty 
(http://sarovar.org/docman/?group_id=230). The same situation was with 
pdftex project. Martin Sch. and Hartmut corrected this last week.
I've added mpman.pdf to this page.
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] XYpic

[Vit Zyka]

luigi.scarso wrote:
Vit, many thanks for your answer.
Vit Zyka wrote:
1. For a moment I set
  shell_escape =f
in `kpsewhich texmf.cnf'
ok, done
2. Input file f.tex:
\startuseMPgraphic{A}
  draw unitcircle scaled\overlaywidth;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\defineoverlay
  [B]
  [\uniqueMPgraphic{A}]
\starttext
  \framed[background=B]{Hallo frame!}
\stoptext
3a. classical run
  texexec --pdf f
No circle under frame,  right? If not, I have a bad installation; please 
discard the rest
(and some hints to repair will be really appreciate :)  ).
?? I obtained both a frame and a circle.
3b. step by step
  texexec --pdf --nomp f
  mpost f-mpgraph
  texexec --pdf --nomp f
A circle appear under the frame. But I   have 3  runs ( texexec, mpost, 
texexec).
Yes, the cases 3a = 3b should have at least 3 runs. With shell_escape=t 
only 2 are needed. You are right.

With XYPic, a similar result can be achieved without mpost:
%%
%% WARNING:: deprecated example
%% Don't use it !
%%
\input xy
\xyoption{frame}
\starttext
\xy
(0,0) *++=\hbox{\framed{Hallo frame}} *\frm{o} ;
\endxy
\stoptext
Of course this doesn't mean that XY is better/worse than mpost, nor that
using mpost coupled with context will be always slow than others ways;
but sometimes a faster alternative may be required.
All right, I agree for somebody and sometimes xypic might be use with 
advantage. I was thinkink about general recommendation.

Sure for XYPic, name spaces collisions, cpu/memory required, syntax are 
+ limitation by substance: drawing is mostly done via fonts
(some) items
to consider: but it also comes with a bunch of features and may be 
faster than mpost
in some circumstances.

[OT] XFIG: fig2dev can be export to metapost and in multi-metapost.
Hence, from the moon, I see that xfig can be used with context.
Export to context is good news. But still no parametrization possible :-(
vit
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[NTG-context] reference

[Jörg Hagmann]

Dear list members,
I can't figure out how to refer to figures. In the setuparea I have 
e.g.:

\useexternalfigure[anapler][anaplerosis][width=\textwidth]
In the body I had:
\placefigure{Acetyl-CoA stimuliert die anaplerotische Reaktion 
etc...}{\externalfigure[anapler]}

In the text:
(\in{Abb.}[anapler]
pdf output gave Abb. ??
I then added a reference to \placefigure:
\placefigure[anapler1]{text ...}[anapler]
and
(\in{Abb.}[anapler1]
Same result, i.e. ??
I then thought that maybe, although this seems unlikely, [fig:..] is 
needed, as in the examples in the manuals. I replaced the reference 
with [fig:anapler], same result.

As so far practically nothing worked the first time, but I always 
managed to find the error after some time, I kept staring at the 
manuals and my tex file. It didn't help. I hope somebody has the 
answer.
Thank you very much, Jörg.

PD Dr.med. Jörg Hagmann-Zanolari
Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics
DKBW, University of Basel
Mattenstrasse 28
CH-4058 Basel
Switzerland
Phone +41 (0)61 6953049
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Re: [NTG-context] XYpic

[luigi.scarso]

Vit, the last things.
After that I consider this topic closed.
+ limitation by substance: drawing is mostly done via fonts
Yes, I forget to write it.
[XFIG]..Export to context is good news. But still no parametrization 
possible :-(
..maybe something to play this summer...

Now for metapost:
shell_escape= f
in texmf.cnf
so \write18 is disabled.
$texexec --pdf f
No circle; it seems right, because f.log says
systems: randomizer starts with 797065300
mpost  -progname=mpost -mem=metafun f-mpgraph
system()...disabled.
$ shell_escape=x ; texutil --purgeall; texexec --pdf f
As before.
$ shell_escape= ; texutil --purgeall; texexec --pdf f
As before.
$ shell_escape=t ; texutil --purgeall; texexec --pdf f
Circle ok; again it's right, f.log says
systems: randomizer starts with 800565448
system(mpost  -progname=mpost -mem=metafun f-mpgraph)...executed.
$ shell_escape=f ; texutil --purgeall; texexec --pdf f
Strange:circle again.
I found into texexec.pl
if (($ENV{shell_escape} eq 'f') || ($ENV{SHELL_ESCAPE} eq 'f')) {
   $AutoMPRun = 1 ;
}
Hence texexec/texutil has called mpost instead of \write18; it's like 
shell_escape=t
(for this task, not in general sense, of course)
Hmm, it's not crystal clear:
shell_escape=f  means shell_escape is  False
shell_escape=t  means shell_escape is  True
but for processing f.tex 'True and False are the same'

$shell_escape=; texutil --purge; texexec --pdf --automprun f
Circle ok; it seems right, because I force execution of mpost.
Again, many thanks
luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] reference

[Matthias Weber]

Try for instance
\placefigure
[] % 1st [] argument is for placing options like: here, force
[anapler] % 2nd [] argument is the label
{caption}   %1st {} argument is caption
{\externalfigure[path-tofigurefile][width=3in]}
Then
\in{Abb.}[anapler]
will (hopefully) work.
Matthias
On Apr 29, 2005, at 4:52 AM, Jörg Hagmann wrote:
Dear list members,
I can't figure out how to refer to figures. In the setuparea I have 
e.g.:

\useexternalfigure[anapler][anaplerosis][width=\textwidth]
In the body I had:
\placefigure{Acetyl-CoA stimuliert die anaplerotische Reaktion 
etc...}{\externalfigure[anapler]}

In the text:
(\in{Abb.}[anapler]
pdf output gave Abb. ??
I then added a reference to \placefigure:
\placefigure[anapler1]{text ...}[anapler]
and
(\in{Abb.}[anapler1]
Same result, i.e. ??
I then thought that maybe, although this seems unlikely, [fig:..] is 
needed, as in the examples in the manuals. I replaced the reference 
with [fig:anapler], same result.

As so far practically nothing worked the first time, but I always 
managed to find the error after some time, I kept staring at the 
manuals and my tex file. It didn't help. I hope somebody has the 
answer.
Thank you very much, Jörg.

PD Dr.med. Jörg Hagmann-Zanolari
Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics
DKBW, University of Basel
Mattenstrasse 28
CH-4058 Basel
Switzerland
Phone +41 (0)61 6953049
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[NTG-context] TEXMFMAIN problem in gwTeX (font installation)

[Ville Voipio]

I have spent some very interesting time trying to install the TeXlive 
fonts by using texfont type-tmf.dat. What happened was that a lot of 
complaints about unknown subpath ../afm/public/urw were given even 
though the path should have been there. This is a known problem, has 
been on several mailing lists, as well.

After a lot of thinking it became clear that texfont was really unable 
to find any font files. By browsing through the texfont.pl, the reason 
became evident: In gwTeX the root variables are:

   TEXMFMAIN = /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf
   TEXMFTE = /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex
The problem here is that all the TeXlive fonts (and almost everthing 
else) is really in the TEXMFTE tree.

My quick'n'dirty was to make new file type-tmf-gwtex.dat by replacing 
all occurrences of TEXMFMAIN by TEXMFTE. Running that one in batch mode 
works fine.

Problem solved -- this time. But the solution is not a beautiful one. 
Could someone suggest something cleaner? Or has this been solved already 
(I tried googling after the answer without success)?

- Ville
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Re: [NTG-context] reference

[Willi Egger]

Hi Jörg,
The \placefigure command knows more optional things:
\placefigure
[left, right, here, top, bottom, inleft, inright, inmargin, margin, 
leftmargin, rightmargin, leftedge, rightedge, innermargin, outermargin, 
inneredge, outeredge, inner, outer, line, high, low, fit, page, 
opposite, always, force, tall, reset, line, height, depth]
[ref,..]
{caption}
{\externalfigure[name][options]}

So you need to add [anapler] as the reference before the caption.
A good startingpoint for such problems is the texshow utility. To start 
it type at the command line texmfstrat texshow. Otherwise if you use the 
SciTe editor it is incorporated under the Help-button or just hit F1.

Kind regards
Willi
Jörg Hagmann wrote:
Dear list members,
I can't figure out how to refer to figures. In the setuparea I have e.g.:
\useexternalfigure[anapler][anaplerosis][width=\textwidth]
In the body I had:
\placefigure{Acetyl-CoA stimuliert die anaplerotische Reaktion 
etc...}{\externalfigure[anapler]}

In the text:
(\in{Abb.}[anapler]
pdf output gave Abb. ??
I then added a reference to \placefigure:
\placefigure[anapler1]{text ...}[anapler]
and
(\in{Abb.}[anapler1]
Same result, i.e. ??
I then thought that maybe, although this seems unlikely, [fig:..] is 
needed, as in the examples in the manuals. I replaced the reference with 
[fig:anapler], same result.

As so far practically nothing worked the first time, but I always 
managed to find the error after some time, I kept staring at the manuals 
and my tex file. It didn't help. I hope somebody has the answer.
Thank you very much, Jörg.

PD Dr.med. Jörg Hagmann-Zanolari
Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics
DKBW, University of Basel
Mattenstrasse 28
CH-4058 Basel
Switzerland
Phone +41 (0)61 6953049
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