Re: [NTG-context] Beta bib module release
Hi Thomas, Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: Taco, just so you don't think nobody is interested in your new beta: I dlded it today and played with it, but had to revert to the old version because it somehow did not honor the modifications I made to \setuppublicationlayout (I was getting some default instead of my own version, and there were spurious periods and colons in all the entries). I saw those in my (very small) example file as well, but that is from a database that is known to have flaws so I didn't investigate any further and just assumed that they were caused by broken input. I will check again. I will test it again within the next few days. By the way: I spent one hour last weekend and, by judiciously sprinkling some \unskip's in my definitions, had gotten rid of the extra spaces. I actually wanted to write to you about it this week... Don't you hate it when that happens? Meanwhile, the one thing that I find really disturbing is the messed up vertical spacing. I'm doing my first real-life book project with Context and your bib module. It won't be finished before sometime next year, but expect me to come knockin' on your door often. My bibliography is long (371 items), but fairly regular, so I think everything else is working just fine, but I can't give a pdf to the publisher where the lines are so irregular. Any chance of you looking into that soon? The vertical spacing in my example looks ok, so perhaps it something in your setup that messes it up hard (or something in my setup that masks the problem). Can you send me an excerpt for testing maybe? Cheers, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Beta bib module release
Hi Taco,
disregard most of what I wrote yesterday: most of your new module is
working fine, thanks so much! Haven't tested the new features yet,
but will very soon. I'm especially thrilled by the \cite[right=]
command and hope it works!
One major (but probably easy-to-fix) problem is that your wonderfully
clear syntax {before}{after}{instead} isn't working anymore.
Here's an example. I have this line in my setup for books:
\insertseries{ (}{), }{, }%
which used to work: if the entry has information about the series,
put it in parentheses and append a comma, if it doesn't, just put the
comma. With the new module, I get an extra (), after every title, and
the same is true for other constructs.
One question: in the parsed bbl file, the bibtex field address is
translated into city, publisher into pubname, and year into
pubyear. Is there a reason for this? I found it a bit confusing
because you have a macro \insertpublisher which inserts city,
pubname; coming from the names in the database, I couldn't figure
out what was happening until I looked at the source. Would it be
possible to just keep the fieldnames as bibtex has them?
As for the vertical spacing problem: depending on the font and the
settings for interlinespace, it is more or less visible. To see a
really clear case, try setting the interlinespace to something really
big like 5ex, then you can see that space within the entries is
regular while space between entries is somewhat smaller.
Again, thanks a lot for your wonderful work, and tot ziens!
Thomas
On Sep 29, 2005, at 8:57 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote:
Taco,
just so you don't think nobody is interested in your new beta: I
dlded it today and played with it, but had to revert to the old
version because it somehow did not honor the modifications I made
to \setuppublicationlayout (I was getting some default instead of
my own version, and there were spurious periods and colons in all
the entries).
I saw those in my (very small) example file as well, but that is
from a database that is known to have flaws so I didn't investigate
any further and just assumed that they were caused by broken input.
I will check again.
I will test it again within the next few days. By the way: I
spent one hour last weekend and, by judiciously sprinkling some
\unskip's in my definitions, had gotten rid of the extra spaces.
I actually wanted to write to you about it this week...
Don't you hate it when that happens?
Meanwhile, the one thing that I find really disturbing is the
messed up vertical spacing. I'm doing my first real-life book
project with Context and your bib module. It won't be finished
before sometime next year, but expect me to come knockin' on your
door often. My bibliography is long (371 items), but fairly
regular, so I think everything else is working just fine, but I
can't give a pdf to the publisher where the lines are so
irregular. Any chance of you looking into that soon?
The vertical spacing in my example looks ok, so perhaps it
something in your setup that messes it up hard (or something in
my setup that masks the problem). Can you send me an excerpt for
testing maybe?
Cheers, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Beta bib module release
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
Hi Taco,
disregard most of what I wrote yesterday: most of your new module is
working fine, thanks so much! Haven't tested the new features yet, but
will very soon. I'm especially thrilled by the \cite[right=] command
and hope it works!
One major (but probably easy-to-fix) problem is that your wonderfully
clear syntax {before}{after}{instead} isn't working anymore.
Here's an example. I have this line in my setup for books:
\insertseries{ (}{), }{, }%
which used to work: if the entry has information about the series, put
it in parentheses and append a comma, if it doesn't, just put the
comma. With the new module, I get an extra (), after every title, and
the same is true for other constructs.
I have found this bug, and uploaded a new beta:
http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/m-bib-beta-20050929.zip
The output here looks a whole lot better now.
One question: in the parsed bbl file, the bibtex field address is
translated into city, publisher into pubname, and year into
pubyear. Is there a reason for this? I found it a bit confusing
because you have a macro \insertpublisher which inserts city,
pubname; coming from the names in the database, I couldn't figure out
what was happening until I looked at the source. Would it be possible
to just keep the fieldnames as bibtex has them?
I did this originally to be compatible with the old context
publications macros as well as the base tex definition of \year,
and I guess it is no longer safe to change the names now. I bit
of a mistake, in hindsight. :-(
As for the vertical spacing problem: depending on the font and the
settings for interlinespace, it is more or less visible. To see a
really clear case, try setting the interlinespace to something really
big like 5ex, then you can see that space within the entries is regular
while space between entries is somewhat smaller.
Not over here. with \showgrid on, everything is precisely lined up.
That's why I really need an example of what you are doing.
Cheers, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with \setupindenting in the new ConTeXt version
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:46:12 -0700 (PDT), Marcus Vinicius Mesquita de So [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded today the ConTeXt version, and updated it, but the command \setupindenting stopped to function... A known bug, declare it twice and it should work. Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Problems with \setupindenting in the new ConTeXt version
Yes, it works. Thank you. Marcus Vinicius --- Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:46:12 -0700 (PDT), Marcus Vinicius Mesquita de So [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded today the ConTeXt version, and updated it, but the command \setupindenting stopped to function... A known bug, declare it twice and it should work. Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
