Re: [NTG-context] setupitemize confusion

2006-07-27 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:


 Am 27.07.2006 um 07:32 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

 On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

 Hi,

 both paragraph should be indented 12 pt. But there are different:

 \starttext

 \startitemize[width=12pt]
 \sym{\endash}\input tufte
 \stopitemize

 \setupitemize[width=12pt]
 \sym{\endash}\input tufte

 \stoptext


 How do I make the second the same as the first?

 Shouldn't you wrap the second one with \startstop itemize?

 \setupitemize[width=12pt]
 \startitemize
 \sym{\endash}\input tufte
 \stopitemize

 Aditya



 Well, I hope not!

 As far as I understood the manual (cont-eni) one can use \item and
 \sym also without the start-stop environment: in cases where it is
 just needed as one entry (not a list).
 This works, somehow. But is there no setup possible?

 I need it in a bibliography: the normal entries author, title etc.
 maybe two lines are hangindented with \hangafter=1\hangindent=12pt.
 But when a author has two or more titles it is written - title etc.
 maybe two lines. And here the -  must be the same space as the
 hangindent (12pt), as one can imagine easily.
 That's why I used a \item res. \sym for this. And a start/stop each
 would make the code quite chaotic.

 But maybe there is even another solution for this construction, even
 better?

Ask Taco to implement this in the bib module :-)

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] setupitemize confusion

2006-07-27 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 27.07.2006 um 08:05 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

 On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:


 Am 27.07.2006 um 07:32 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

 On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

 Hi,

 both paragraph should be indented 12 pt. But there are different:

 \starttext

 \startitemize[width=12pt]
 \sym{\endash}\input tufte
 \stopitemize

 \setupitemize[width=12pt]
 \sym{\endash}\input tufte

 \stoptext


 How do I make the second the same as the first?

 Shouldn't you wrap the second one with \startstop itemize?

 \setupitemize[width=12pt]
 \startitemize
 \sym{\endash}\input tufte
 \stopitemize

 Aditya



 Well, I hope not!

 As far as I understood the manual (cont-eni) one can use \item and
 \sym also without the start-stop environment: in cases where it is
 just needed as one entry (not a list).
 This works, somehow. But is there no setup possible?

 I need it in a bibliography: the normal entries author, title etc.
 maybe two lines are hangindented with \hangafter=1\hangindent=12pt.
 But when a author has two or more titles it is written - title etc.
 maybe two lines. And here the -  must be the same space as the
 hangindent (12pt), as one can imagine easily.
 That's why I used a \item res. \sym for this. And a start/stop each
 would make the code quite chaotic.

 But maybe there is even another solution for this construction, even
 better?

 Ask Taco to implement this in the bib module :-)


The bib module won't help (I assume): the bibliography is already  
typed, not generated.

Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] Charts, Graphs, Tufte, and ConTeXt

2006-07-27 Thread Nicolas Grilly
Karl Ove Hufthammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes! R (especially using the new grid and lattice framework) produces
 excellent charts and graphs, with very sensible default options (much
 of it based on Cleveland's research).

What is Cleveland's research? Can you provide references on the web?

Thank you,

Nicolas Grilly
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Re: [NTG-context] gnuplot in ConTeXt

2006-07-27 Thread Renaud AUBIN




Hi,

The ConTeXt term is now in development.
You have at least two or three alternatives (with one prefered
but in dev):
- use postscript term and include the resulting graphics with
externalfigure
- use mp term and process the MP buffer with metafun
- last but not least, use directly the context terminal...

For this one, you have to:
- compile and install gnuplot from source by adding context.trm in
gnuplot/term/ and adding context.trm to term.h (if you are on linux,
else on windows you can use the wiki's patched binary gnuplot
http://pub.mojca.org/gnuplot/bin/)
- get mp-gnuplot.mp and t-gnuplot.tex and copy these two files into
your current document directory
- use \usemodule[t-gnuplot] to bypass the gnuplot module distributed
with the ConTeXt release

Then, you can try:
\usemodule[t-gnuplot]

\starttext
\startGNUPLOTscript{abc}
plot sin(x)
\stopGNUPLOTscript

\useGNUPLOTgraphic[abc]
\useGNUPLOTgraphic[abc][width=\textwidth]
\stoptext

If you have any questions...

Cheers,

Renaud

Dalyoung Jeong a crit:

  Dear all,

I have installed gnuplot and others(aqua term, x11).
I tested the minimal sample file in ConTeXt Wiki.
In the wiki page, there is a command like

\startGNUPLOTgraphics{sin}
plot sin(x)
\stopGNUPLOTgraphics

but there is an error message like

l.6 \startGNUPLOTgraphics
  {sin}
? x

If I changed \startGNUPLOTgraphics{sin} to \startGNUPLOTgraphic{sin},  
then the error is disappeared but the output showed only texts but  
not graph. Only a grey box is appeared.

Would you please show me an example in detail?

Thank you for reading.

Dalyoung 
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Re: [NTG-context] setupitemize confusion

2006-07-27 Thread Renaud AUBIN




Steffen Wolfrum a crit:

  The bib module won't help (I assume): the bibliography is already  
typed, not generated.

Steffen
  


Hi Steffen, Aditya,

I'm agree with Aditya, Taco can surely help on this point...
I'm also interested by this feature (to Taco: since IEEE bib formatting
follows it ;) )


Cheers,

Renaud



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Re: [NTG-context] setupitemize confusion

2006-07-27 Thread Renaud AUBIN




Hi Steffen,

Can you provide some working sample code (two or three typical entries
+ wrap with \start/stopitemize) ?
Is your bibliography big ? I assume your this work is urgent and you
can't make a .bib, right ?

Renaud

Steffen Wolfrum a crit:

  Am 27.07.2006 um 08:05 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

  
  
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:



  Am 27.07.2006 um 07:32 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

  
  
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:



  Hi,

both paragraph should be indented 12 pt. But there are different:

\starttext

\startitemize[width=12pt]
\sym{\endash}\input tufte
\stopitemize

\setupitemize[width=12pt]
\sym{\endash}\input tufte

\stoptext


How do I make the second the same as the first?
  

Shouldn't you wrap the second one with \startstop itemize?

\setupitemize[width=12pt]
\startitemize
\sym{\endash}\input tufte
\stopitemize

Aditya

  
  

Well, I hope not!

As far as I understood the manual (cont-eni) one can use \item and
\sym also without the start-stop environment: in cases where it is
just needed as one entry (not a list).
This works, somehow. But is there no setup possible?

I need it in a bibliography: the normal entries "author, title etc.
maybe two lines" are hangindented with \hangafter=1\hangindent=12pt.
But when a author has two or more titles it is written "- title etc.
maybe two lines". And here the "- " must be the same space as the
hangindent (12pt), as one can imagine easily.
That's why I used a \item res. \sym for this. And a start/stop each
would make the code quite chaotic.

But maybe there is even another solution for this construction, even
better?
  

Ask Taco to implement this in the bib module :-)

  
  

The bib module won't help (I assume): the bibliography is already  
typed, not generated.

Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] setupitemize confusion

2006-07-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Renaud AUBIN wrote:
 Steffen Wolfrum a écrit :
 
The bib module won't help (I assume): the bibliography is already  
typed, not generated.

Steffen
  

 
 Hi Steffen, Aditya,
 
 I'm agree with Aditya, Taco can surely help on this point...
 I'm also interested by this feature (to Taco: since IEEE bib formatting 
 follows it ;) )

It would not be very hard to add this feature to the module,
but that will probably not help Steffen in this case.

Taco
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[NTG-context] core-buf.tex?

2006-07-27 Thread David Arnold
All,

In looking at core-buf.tex to see if I could find anything about  
subblocks, I came across at line 518:

\def\setblocklevel#1% sign
   {\global\advance\blocklevel #11
\ifcase\blocklevel\doingblocksfalse\else\doingblockstrue\fi}

Is that 11 correct?
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Re: [NTG-context] setupitemize confusion

2006-07-27 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi Renaud,

sure, here it is:


\starttext

\def\Textit{\groupedcommand\it\/}
\def\hangover{\hangafter=1\hangindent=16pt }


\hangover\Textit{Badura, Peter:} Parlamentarismus und  
parteienstaatliche Demokratie, in: Pawlowski, Hans{|-|}Martin{|/|}  
Wieacker, Franz (Hrsg.), Festschrift für Karl Michaelis zum 70.  
Geburtstag, Göttingen 1972, S. 9ff.

\hangover{\endash} Die parlamentarische Verantwortlichkeit\index 
{Verantwortlichkeit} der Minister, ZParl 1980, S. 573ff.

\hangover{\endash} Staatsrecht, 3. Aufl., München 2003.

\hangover{\endash} Die parlamentarische Demokratie, in: Isensee, Josef 
{|/|}Kirchhof, Paul (Hrsg.), Handbuch des Staatsrechts der  
Bundesrepublik Deutschland, Bd. II, 3. Aufl., Heidelberg 2004, § 25.

\stoptext


You see what is needed?


Steffen

Am 27.07.2006 um 09:11 schrieb Renaud AUBIN:

 Hi Steffen,

 Can you provide some working sample code (two or three typical  
 entries + wrap with \start/stopitemize) ?
 Is your bibliography big ? I assume your this work is urgent and  
 you can't make a .bib, right ?

 Renaud

 Steffen Wolfrum a écrit :
 Am 27.07.2006 um 08:05 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
 On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Am 27.07.2006 um 07:32 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
 On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi, both paragraph should be indented 12 pt. But there are  
 different: \starttext \startitemize[width=12pt] \sym{\endash} 
 \input tufte \stopitemize \setupitemize[width=12pt] \sym 
 {\endash}\input tufte \stoptext How do I make the second the  
 same as the first?
 Shouldn't you wrap the second one with \startstop itemize?  
 \setupitemize[width=12pt] \startitemize \sym{\endash}\input  
 tufte \stopitemize  Aditya
 Well, I hope not! As far as I understood the manual (cont-eni)  
 one can use \item and \sym also without the start-stop  
 environment: in cases where it is just needed as one entry (not  
 a list). This works, somehow. But is there no setup possible? I  
 need it in a bibliography: the normal entries author, title  
 etc. maybe two lines are hangindented with \hangafter=1 
 \hangindent=12pt. But when a author has two or more titles it is  
 written - title etc. maybe two lines. And here the -  must  
 be the same space as the hangindent (12pt), as one can imagine  
 easily. That's why I used a \item res. \sym for this. And a  
 start/stop each would make the code quite chaotic. But maybe  
 there is even another solution for this construction, even better?
 Ask Taco to implement this in the bib module :-)
 The bib module won't help (I assume): the bibliography is already  
 typed, not generated. Steffen  
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Re: [NTG-context] setupitemize confusion

2006-07-27 Thread Renaud AUBIN
Taco Hoekwater a écrit :

It would not be very hard to add this feature to the module,
but that will probably not help Steffen in this case.

Taco
  

Yes, but you're also a ConTeXt guru, no ? ;)

PS to Taco: No more time for #context ?
Renaud
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Re: [NTG-context] updating context on Ubuntu 6.06

2006-07-27 Thread Hans Hagen
Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:

  def locatedlocaltree
 -return `kpsewhich --expand-var $TEXMFLOCAL`.chomp rescue nil
 +return `kpsewhich --expand-var '$TEXMFLOCAL'`.chomp rescue nil
  end
   
returns 'result' here

can you try:

def locatedlocaltree
tree = `kpsewhich --expand-path $TEXMFLOCAL`.chomp rescue nil
unless tree  FileTest.directory?(tree) then
tree = `kpsewhich --expand-path $TEXMF`.chomp rescue nil
end
return tree
end

(uses expand-path instead)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] updating context on Ubuntu 6.06

2006-07-27 Thread Hans Hagen
Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
 How does Windows quoting work?  Well, the whole story isn't needed,
 but only how would this ruby line

   `kpsewhich --expand-var '$TEXMFLOCAL'`

 differ on Windows relative to Unix?
   
the problem is that one never knows when the shell does things and when 
the program does ... so in order to be really sure, we need taco to look 
into the kpse source to see if ' is handled there (here they are retained)
 And the $@ - $@ change can be done in the Unix stubs only, so the
 change won't affect Windows (which uses .bat files and a different
 syntax).
   

so in texmfstart:

f.write(#{program} #{callname} \[EMAIL PROTECTED]\012)

 The other part of the patch was changing system() to be used within an
 if instead of a rescue block, and I got the return information about
 system() from the Programming Ruby manual online.  It didn't say
 anything about it applying only to Unix, so that change should be safe
 too.
   
will look 

Hans 

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[NTG-context] keepblocks

2006-07-27 Thread David Arnold
All,

Can anyone explain what this is supposed to do?

\keepblocks
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[NTG-context] setuplabeltext bug ?

2006-07-27 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi,

the label is killed when changing new (de) german to old (deo) german:


\mainlanguage[de]%de=new, deo=old

\starttext

\setuplabeltext[de][chapter=Chapter]

\chapter{Text}

\stoptext



Right?

Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] setupitemize confusion

2006-07-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi Renaud,
 
 sure, here it is:
 
 
 \starttext
 
 \def\Textit{\groupedcommand\it\/}
 \def\hangover{\hangafter=1\hangindent=16pt }


Try this:

   \def\dashauthor
  {\leavevmode\hbox to 16pt{\endash\hss}\ignorespaces}

   \hangover{\dashauthor} Die parlamentarische ...

Cheers, taco

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Re: [NTG-context] updating context on Ubuntu 6.06

2006-07-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Hans Hagen wrote:
 Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
 
How does Windows quoting work?  Well, the whole story isn't needed,
but only how would this ruby line

  `kpsewhich --expand-var '$TEXMFLOCAL'`

differ on Windows relative to Unix?
  
 
 the problem is that one never knows when the shell does things and when 

On unix, it is pretty easy to test what the shell does by pasting
the stuff you want to try after the 'echo' command. In this case:

   $ echo kpsewhich --expand-var '$TEXMFLOCAL'
   kpsewhich --expand-var $TEXMFLOCAL

I assume a similar trick is possible on windows, yes?

And the $@ - $@ change can be done in the Unix stubs only, so the
change won't affect Windows (which uses .bat files and a different
syntax).
  
 so in texmfstart:
 
 f.write(#{program} #{callname} \[EMAIL PROTECTED]\012)

Yes. That reminds me: I assume on MacOsX the same stubs will work
except that \012 has to be changed into \015. Can someone test that?

Cheers, taco
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Re: [NTG-context] core-buf.tex?

2006-07-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater


David Arnold wrote:
 All,
 
 In looking at core-buf.tex to see if I could find anything about  
 subblocks, I came across at line 518:
 
 \def\setblocklevel#1% sign
{\global\advance\blocklevel #11
 \ifcase\blocklevel\doingblocksfalse\else\doingblockstrue\fi}
 
 Is that 11 correct?

That is not 11, that is #1 followed by 1, and it is called
with #1 == + or #1 == -, so the expansion becomes

   \global\advance\blocklevel + 1
or
   \global\advance\blocklevel - 1

Cheers, taco



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Re: [NTG-context] setupitemize confusion

2006-07-27 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Very nice!


Thank you Taco.

Steffen



Am 27.07.2006 um 10:36 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:



 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi Renaud,

 sure, here it is:


 \starttext

 \def\Textit{\groupedcommand\it\/}
 \def\hangover{\hangafter=1\hangindent=16pt }


 Try this:

\def\dashauthor
   {\leavevmode\hbox to 16pt{\endash\hss}\ignorespaces}

\hangover{\dashauthor} Die parlamentarische ...

 Cheers, taco

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[NTG-context] setuphead

2006-07-27 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi,

I was sure it should be quite standard, but I couldn't figure our how  
to set a heading like this:

Chapter label/number (centered,small,italic)
(linebreak)
Chapter titel (centered,bigger,bold)

Is there a command=... to be written, or could it be achieved by  
combining the various options that setuphead has predefined?


Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] centered headertexts ??

2006-07-27 Thread Hans Hagen
Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,

 apologies, I guess this one is a pretty easy question, but after  
 trying (almost) every combination I gave up...

 How do I get xxx and yyy set in the header's center??

   
the ugly way :

\setupheadertexts[text][\hfill xxx \hfill][][][\hfill yyy\hfill]

 \setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,location= 
 {header,marginedge}]
 \setupheadertexts[][xxx][yyy][]


 \starttext

 \input tufte

 \input knuth

 \input tufte

 \input knuth

 \input tufte

 \input knuth

 \stoptext
   
we can consider a more explicit variant: 

\def\settext
  {\doquintupleempty\dosettext}

\def\dosettext[#1][#2][#3][#4][#5]% text header middle text/text
  {\iffifthargument
 \setvalue{\??tk#1#2\executeifdefined{\c!text:#3}\c!middletext}%
   {\dodoubletexts{\??tk#1}{#2}%
  {\c!leftstyle \c!leftcolor \c!leftwidth }{#4}%
  {\c!rightstyle\c!rightcolor\c!rightwidth}{#5}}%
   \else\iffourthargument
 \setvalue{\??tk#1#2\executeifdefined{\c!text:#3}\c!middletext}%
   {\dodoubletexts{\??tk#1}{#2}%
  {\c!leftstyle \c!leftcolor \c!leftwidth }{#4}%
  {\c!rightstyle\c!rightcolor\c!rightwidth}{#4}}%
   \else\ifthirdargument
 \setvalue{\??tk#1#2\c!middletext}%
   {\dodoubletexts{\??tk#1}{#2}%
  {\c!leftstyle \c!leftcolor \c!leftwidth }{#3}%
  {\c!rightstyle\c!rightcolor\c!rightwidth}{#3}}%
   \fi\fi\fi}

\def\resettext
  {\dotripleempty\doresettext}

\def\doresettext[#1][#2][#3]% text header middle
  {\ifthirdargument
 \letvalue{\??tk#1#2\executeifdefined{\c!text:#3}\c!middletext}\empty
   \else\ifsecondargument
 \letvalue{\??tk#1#2\c!lefttext  }\empty
 \letvalue{\??tk#1#2\c!middletext}\empty
 \letvalue{\??tk#1#2\c!righttext }\empty
   \fi\fi}

\setvalue{\c!middle:\c!text}{\c!middletext}
\setvalue{\c!left  :\c!text}{\c!lefttext  }
\setvalue{\c!right :\c!text}{\c!righttext }

\settext[text][header][middle][xxx][yyy]

(or maybe \setpagetext \resetpagetext) 

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Re: [NTG-context] setuplabeltext bug ?

2006-07-27 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
ConTeXt  ver: 2006.07.22 18:35

... that's the current beta that i-installer offers.

Steffen


Am 27.07.2006 um 11:49 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:



 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,

 the label is killed when changing new (de) german to old (deo)  
 german:

 What context version? (works ok here, using the latest).

 Taco

 \mainlanguage[de]%de=new, deo=old

 \starttext

 \setuplabeltext[de][chapter=Chapter]

 \chapter{Text}

 \stoptext



 Right?

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Re: [NTG-context] underbar and hyphenation

2006-07-27 Thread Jano Kula
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Be warned, this entire reply does not answer any questions ;-)

OK

 Jano Kula wrote:
 Not always. A year ago a graphic designer used it a quiet creative way 
 in the book of interviews. All the questions or persons were underlined, 
 often hyphenated. It was an experiment and it worked. By the way, some 
 of the caption and figure alingment Mojca asked for was used there also. 
 I've put few sample pages here (done in LaTeX):

 http://web.iol.cz/kula/sample.pdf (1,5MB).
 
 Perhaps I am way too old-fashioned, but that looks rather ugly to me.

Sure you are ;) Modern designs are modern designs. But don't worry you 
are not the only one.

We have spent many hours, did many experiments and I was afraid of using 
it also. The result was a pragmatic solution when all the possibilities 
mentioned below were not usable in the book with many different 
situations we needed to handle.

I was very suprised when the designer (experienced, respected and well 
aware of typography history and present) came up with this solution. I 
can't say I like it, but in print it wasn't that ugly as I was expecting.

What I liked more than this solution was the courage to breake the rules 
we are all aware of (btw, like Godard used to do in his films; the book 
is a collection of interviews with him).

 So not for emphasis but as a graphic element it is -- and will be -- used.
 
 IMO,
 
graphic element == emphasis

Imagine the form with prescribed empty lines (lines, dots, dashes) and 
the pieces of predifined text on them in the schoolbook.

 Backgrounds, colorization, larger or different typeface, indentation,
 additional vertical space, they are all tools to draw extra attention
 to  particular bits of the text.

Hence, whether we like it or not, we must be able to use underlining.

Greetings,

Jano


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Re: [NTG-context] setuplabeltext bug ?

2006-07-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 ConTeXt  ver: 2006.07.22 18:35
 
 ... that's the current beta that i-installer offers.
 
 Steffen

I have 2006.07.24 but I doubt that is causing the problem.
Did you try \setuplabeltext[deo], by chance ? Because that
certainly does not work.

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] underbar and hyphenation

2006-07-27 Thread Hans Hagen
Jano Kula wrote:

 Imagine the form with prescribed empty lines (lines, dots, dashes) and 
 the pieces of predifined text on them in the schoolbook.
   
that's when we use the textbackgrounds (which then draw lines insteadof fills) 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] setuplabeltext bug ?

2006-07-27 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

This was my thread about: I tried \setuplabeltext[deo] and was  
wondering why it doesn't work.
How should someone know that it doesn't work?!

Steffen


Am 27.07.2006 um 13:15 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:

 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 ConTeXt  ver: 2006.07.22 18:35

 ... that's the current beta that i-installer offers.

 Steffen

 I have 2006.07.24 but I doubt that is causing the problem.
 Did you try \setuplabeltext[deo], by chance ? Because that
 certainly does not work.

 Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] underbar and hyphenation

2006-07-27 Thread Jano Kula
Hans Hagen wrote:
 Jano Kula wrote:
 Imagine the form with prescribed empty lines (lines, dots, dashes) and 
 the pieces of predifined text on them in the schoolbook.
   
 that's when we use the textbackgrounds (which then draw lines insteadof 
 fills) 

Thanks, Hans, for both tips, I'll try them.

Jano

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Re: [NTG-context] updating context on Ubuntu 6.06

2006-07-27 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
  It was hard to find a machine not running bash, a measure of the
  success of free software.  But I eventually found a nearby Solaris

 more a measure of the lack of diversity ... imagine everyone living a 
 house of the same design, driving the same car, etc etc

Or instead walking, cycling, or taking public transit...but I dream.

 can you try: ...

I ran this ruby script (on Linux):

  def locatedlocaltree
  tree = `kpsewhich --expand-path $TEXMFLOCAL`.chomp rescue nil
  unless tree  FileTest.directory?(tree) then
  tree = `kpsewhich --expand-path $TEXMF`.chomp rescue nil
  end
  return tree
  end

  print locatedlocaltree+\n

and got the error due to lack of quotes around $TEXMF{,LOCAL}:

  kpsewhich: option `--expand-path' requires an argument
  kpsewhich: option `--expand-path' requires an argument

Unix definitely needs those quotes to protect the variables in the
backquoted command from the shell.

Also the 'rescue nil' doesn't seem to have any effect.  Probably
similar to system(), the `cmd` construct doesn't raise an exception if
the command fails or even isn't found.  Instead you get tree equal to
the empty string, since `` captures (the empty) stdout.

Is path expansion (instead of variable expansion) a risky change?  It
might make tree a colon-separated list.  That will cause trouble for
the directory test in the 'unless' clause, and also break later uses
of the returned value of locatedlocaltree that assume it is one path
element.

-Sanjoy

`Never underestimate the evil of which men of power are capable.'
 --Bertrand Russell, _War Crimes in Vietnam_, chapter 1.
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Re: [NTG-context] setuplabeltext bug ?

2006-07-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 This was my thread about: I tried \setuplabeltext[deo] and was  
 wondering why it doesn't work.
 How should someone know that it doesn't work?!

Frankly, I don't know where this is documented.

But it doesnt work because deo is a descendant of de,
thanks to this definition in lang-ger.tex:

\installlanguage % old german
   [deo]
   [\c!spacing=\v!packed,
\c!default=\s!de, %  this line does it
\c!state=\v!stop]

The same is true for a few other languages:

no (norwegian)  - nl % BUG!
uk (british)- en
us (american)   - en
agr (ancient greek) - gr

For Hans: that the norwegian definition is wrong. Even if it
uses dutch hyphenation patterns, it should definately not
use the dutch label texts.

Cheers,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] setuphead

2006-07-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was sure it should be quite standard, but I couldn't figure our how  
 to set a heading like this:
 
 Chapter label/number (centered,small,italic)
 (linebreak)
 Chapter titel (centered,bigger,bold)
 
 Is there a command=... to be written, or could it be achieved by  
 combining the various options that setuphead has predefined?

I guess you need numbercommand,inbetween and textcommand. Not a
definitive answer, but I am positive that will work.

Taco


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Re: [NTG-context] keepblocks

2006-07-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater


David Arnold wrote:
 All,
 
 Can anyone explain what this is supposed to do?
 
 \keepblocks

It is the opposite of \hideblocks, so you can use it
to unhide hidden blocks, I assume.

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] setuplabeltext bug ?

2006-07-27 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Jul 27, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 no (norwegian)  - nl

Today the Netherlands, tomorrow the world ;-)

Thomas

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[NTG-context] section versus subject

2006-07-27 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi,

maybe another quite ... basic question:

What's wrong about \subject?
I assumed that the only difference between \section and \subject is  
numbering or not.

But why does \subject not appear in the TOC (see below)?



\starttext

\definecombinedlist[content]
[section,subject]

\completecontent

\page

\section{section}

\subject{subject}

\stoptext



Thanks,
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] Charts, Graphs, Tufte, and ConTeXt

2006-07-27 Thread Karl Ove Hufthammer
Nicolas Grilly skreiv:

 Karl Ove Hufthammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes! R (especially using the new grid and lattice framework) produces
 excellent charts and graphs, with very sensible default options (much
 of it based on Cleveland's research).
 
 What is Cleveland's research? Can you provide references on the web?

Cleveland has done much research on graphical perception and the visual
decoding of information from data displays. He was one of the first to do
actual scientific study on this.

Earlier, many people had opinions on various common graphs (e.g., ‘pie
charts are bad – I don’t like them’). Cleveland came along and did actual
scientific *experiments* to show why some type of graphs were worse than
others for presenting data (e.g., ‘humans are very bad at judging angles
and very good at judging position along a common scale; that’s why pie
charts are terrible and dot plots good at presenting (the same) data’),
and he proposed new graphical display *based* on this research.

See for example this very interesting and easy to read article:

Title:   Graphical Perception: Theory, Experimentation, and
 Application to the Development of Graphical Methods
Author(s):   William S. Cleveland; Robert McGill
Source:  Journal of the American Statistical Association, Vol. 79,
 No. 387. (Sep., 1984), pp. 531-554.
Stable URL: 
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0162-1459%28198409%2979%3A387%3C531%3AGPTEAA%3E2.0.CO%3B2-Y

Some of Cleveland’s research resulted in novel graphical displays, such as
trellis displays, coplots and dot plots, and much of it resulted in
improvements to common displays. Unfortunately, many of these smaller
improvements and very minor but important details seems to be unknown to
people who design graphing software. Let me mention a few (not too
exciting) examples:

Circles should be used instead of rectangles as plotting symbols, especially
with data overlap, because overlapping rectangles still look like
rectangles, while overlapping circles look nothing like circles. Cleveland
actually recommended a list of plotting symbols (for plotting several
groups in one plot) for use in scatterplots; see:

Title:   A Model for Studying Display Methods of Statistical
 Graphics
Author(s):   William S. Cleveland
Source:  Journal of Computational and Graphical Statistics, Vol. 2,
 No. 4. (Dec., 1993), pp. 323-343.
Stable URL: 
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=1061-8600%28199312%292%3A4%3C323%3AAMFSDM%3E2.0.CO%3B2-Y

Tick marks should point outwards, not inwards (so they don’t camouflage
data).

The data rectangle should always be slightly smaller than the scale-line
rectangle (the box around the data), again to avoid camouflaging the data.

These are just a few (perhaps less interesting) features of graph design
that R does correctly, but many other programs (e.g., gnuplot, at least for
tick marks and data rectangles) don’t (by default).

Much of Cleveland’s research has been summarised in his excellent book

W.S. Cleveland. Elements of Graphing Data. Revised edition. 1994.

See also his other book

W.S. Cleveland. Visualizing data. 1993.

Other articles of his that may be of interest:

Title:   Graphical Perception and Graphical Methods for Analyzing
 Scientific Data
Author(s):   William S. Cleveland; Robert McGill
Source:  Science, New Series, Vol. 229, No. 4716. (Aug. 30, 1985),
 pp. 828-833.
Stable URL: 
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0036-8075%2819850830%293%3A229%3A4716%3C828%3AGPAGMF%3E2.0.CO%3B2-D
Abstract:Graphical perception is the visual decoding of the
 quantitative and qualitative information encoded on
 graphs. Recent investigations have uncovered basic
 principles of human graphical perception that have
 important implications for the display of data. The
 computer graphics revolution has stimulated the invention
 of many graphical methods for analyzing and presenting
 scientific data, such as box plots, two-tiered error bars,
 scatterplot smoothing, dot charts, and graphing on a log
 base 2 scale.



Title:   Graphical Perception: The Visual Decoding of Quantitative
 Information on Graphical Displays of Data
Author(s):   William S. Cleveland; Robert McGill
Source:  Journal of the Royal Statistical Society. Series A
 (General), Vol. 150, No. 3. (1987), pp. 192-229.
Stable URL: 
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0035-9238%281987%29150%3A3%3C192%3AGPTVDO%3E2.0.CO%3B2-T
Abstract:Studies in graphical perception, both theoretical and
 experimental,