Re: [NTG-context] synonyms with MKIV
2007/12/5, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Peter Münster wrote:
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 09:29:08AM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
this line should be
\def\mksavesortedlistentry#1#2#3#4% class key entry meaning
{\immediatewriteutilitytua{table.insert(js['#1'],{'e','#1',\!!bs#2\!!es,\!!bs#3\!!es})}}
Both versions give wrong output with optional arguments. But the following
version works for me:
I forgot to mention you have to regenrate the format with my solution, your
seems to work but I found a way to stop processing because you the optinal
argument can also be used to write a mcro in the first pair of braces and
this
can produce problems.
I've also regenrated the format. But now I understand better: it works well
with your patch for core-syn.lua and Hans' patch for core-syn.mkiv:
{\immediatewriteutilitytua{table.insert(js['#1'],{'e','#2',\!!bs#3\!!es,\!!bs#4\!!es})}}
can you summarize what i need to change?
Hi Hans,
the first part was your change in core-syn.mkiv to wrote all elements to the
tua file.
The scond correction is on line 108 in core-syn.lua
The order of key and entry is, the same as in the mkii macro
{ { v[2], v[3] } }, -- key, entry
but you wrote
{ { v[3], v[2] } }, -- entry, key
and can give the wrong entry in the synonymlist, e.g.
\definsynonyms[test][tests]
\test[A]{\TeX}{Description Text}
give
A Description Text
and not
TeX Description Text
I tested already in my own installation and this did work.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] new release
2007/12/5, Thomas A. Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oops, I was too fast upgrading... luatex fails to produce format files on my system: luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.20.0-2007120515 luatools --ini --compile cont-en LuaTools | creating initialization file cont-en LuaTools | using library path : /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/ context/base LuaTools | using lua libraries: l-string.lua l-table.lua l-boolean.lua l-number.lua l-unicode.lua l-md5.lua l-os.lua l-io.lua l-file.lua l- dir.lua l-utils.lua l-tex.lua luat-lib.lua luat-inp.lua luat-tmp.lua luat-zip.lua luat-tex.lua LuaTools | using compiled initialization file cont-en.luc LuaTools | using lua initialization file cont-en.luc LuaTools | running command: luatex --ini --lua=cont-en.luc /usr/ local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex \dump Error in lua file loading: ?:0: attempt to call field '?' (a nil value) LuaTools | LuaTools | runtime: 0.37 seconds Taco, Hans? All best Thomas Hi Thomas, the new release did work for me with LuaTeX but the mkii part give a error message in conbination with XeTeX., only a short error message but it should be also fixed. Line 53 in regi-ini.mkii use in a message for XeTeX \m!regime as messageconstant and not \m!regimes. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] The ISO 32000 Standard (DIS)
Adobe has received word that the Ballot for approval of PDF 1.7 to become the ISO 32000 Standard (DIS) has passed by a vote of 13::1. I wonder if I should feel ashamed for the vote of my delegation? ;-) Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new release
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: the new release did work for me with LuaTeX but the mkii part give a error message in conbination with XeTeX., only a short error message but it should be also fixed. Line 53 in regi-ini.mkii use in a message for XeTeX \m!regime as messageconstant and not \m!regimes. i will probably post an updated zip later today, i noticed that in base mode kerns got lost (has to do with using an optimized otf table in the cache; i never adapted the base code to that) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new release
That particular line: # Error in lua file loading: ?:0: attempt to call field '?' (a nil value) is often the sign of mismatching luatools and ConTeXt version :-) Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] SVG support
Zeus Gómez Marmolejo wrote:
I've done some tests with rlxtools and I've found that the conversion from
SVG
to PDF is done really bad now. It passes through PS (with the inkscape
command
line) and then the ghostscript is executed to produce the PDF. But I've found
a
better way to do it.
before i look into this ... what version of inkscape? when i wrote the
code ps was the only way that could be trusted (successive version of
inkscape were broken etc)
I've modified the file graphics/inkscape (it's a ruby source code). At line
69
was:
resultpipe = --without-gui --print=\#{tmpfilename}\ 2#{logfile}
and now:
resultpipe = --without-gui --export-pdf=\#{outfilename}\ 2#{logfile}
After this, all these lines can be commented out:
# ghostscript = GhostScript.new(@logger)
#ghostscript.setvariable('inputfile',tmpfilename)
#ghostscript.setvariable('outputfile',outfilename)
#report(converting #{tmpfilename} to #{outfilename})
# ghostscript.convert
#begin
#File.delete(tmpfilename)
#rescue
#end
The difference is that inkscape can export directly to pdf and the conversion
is
done much better, with transparencies and all the stuff.
Also, I noticed that at first it didn't work for me because at line 44
(logfile=System.null), I don't know why but this strings is /dev/null/ in
my
system and when executing the command a message was echoed:
sh: /dev/null/ is a directory and nothing was produced. Now I've modified
the
caller to pass explictly /dev/null as logfile (in pstopdf.rb source, line
401)
and now all is working perfectly.
I hope you can solve these little bugs.
Regards,
Zeus.
Hans Hagen escribió:
Zeus G?mez Marmolejo wrote:
Hi all,
I'm working with Inkscape and I would like to embed some figures
directly in vector format. How do I do that??
I'm trying this:
\externalfigure[system][type=svg][scale=1000]
But a dummy image appears. Is there any svg support in context?!
\usemodule[res-08] \setups[rl:manipulate]
\setupexternalfigures[conversion=pdf]
\starttext
\externalfigure[system.svg]
\stoptext
if you're lucky, it works, otherwise you need to look into how rlxtools
works
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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] The ISO 32000 Standard (DIS)
Matija Šuklje wrote: Dne četrtek 6. decembra 2007 je luigi scarso napisal(a): Adobe has received word that the Ballot for approval of PDF 1.7 to become the ISO 32000 Standard (DIS) has passed by a vote of 13::1. http://blogs.adobe.com/insidepdf/ Sweet :] the list of countries and numbers mentioned with them looks quite weird to me ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new release
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: That particular line: # Error in lua file loading: ?:0: attempt to call field '?' (a nil value) is often the sign of mismatching luatools and ConTeXt version :-) indeed, make sure that luatools --generate is run; many new files ... - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] The ISO 32000 Standard (DIS)
the list of countries and numbers mentioned with them looks quite weird to me ... The big number is the number of comments for countries who have submitted them. It indeed adds to 205 (those 205 comments are *not* to be confused with the number of comments on the blog -- it's slightly misleading!) Each of the 15 voting countries has exactly one vote; it's not the administration of the European Union yet ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
Hi, when in february 2006 I asked for an alternative to fontspec that could show me opentype features, Adam wrote: I find that the lcdf typetools are a tremendous help: otfinfo -f ~/Library/Fonts/WarnockPro-Regular.otf and I can test the features with: \showfont[Warnock Pro: +smcp] Today this showfont-line doesn't work anymore: \definetypeface[oneliner][rm][Xserif][Warnock Pro][default] \starttext \oneliner Test WQG 0196 \showfont[Warnock Pro: +smcp] \stoptext Someone knows what to do? Thanks, Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] synonyms with MKIV
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
The order of key and entry is, the same as in the mkii macro
{ { v[2], v[3] } }, -- key, entry
but you wrote
{ { v[3], v[2] } }, -- entry, key
ok, fixed
just wondering ... now we move to a mix of tex and lua code, how complex
is it to piece together what's happening now inside context
Hans
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[NTG-context] gettimeofday under XP
Hi, I run into the following error with the new version: 'luatools --generate' results in Error in lua file loading: r:\tex\texmf-mswin\bin\luatools.lua:1402: attempt to call field 'gettimeofday' (a nil value) There seems to be no 'os.gettimeofday' under Windows XP. This patch of luatools.lua works here (better check twice) :D if os.gettimeofday then os.clock = os.gettimeofday local startuptime = os.gettimeofday() function os.runtime() return os.gettimeofday() - startuptime end end -- if os.gettimeofday then -- os.clock = os.gettimeofday -- end -- do -- local startuptime = os.gettimeofday() -- function os.runtime() -- return os.gettimeofday() - startuptime -- end -- end Best wishes, Peter ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gettimeofday under XP
Arthur Reutenauer schrieb: Error in lua file loading: r:\tex\texmf-mswin\bin\luatools.lua:1402: attempt to call field 'gettimeofday' (a nil value) Your LuaTeX is too old. Take yesterday's beta (0.20). mhh, I already use this version in my minimal installation. There is no doubt about it. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gettimeofday under XP
On 12/6/07, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arthur Reutenauer schrieb: Error in lua file loading: r:\tex\texmf-mswin\bin\luatools.lua:1402: attempt to call field 'gettimeofday' (a nil value) Your LuaTeX is too old. Take yesterday's beta (0.20). mhh, I already use this version in my minimal installation. There is no doubt about it. Then perhaps luatools --selfupdate? (only guessing) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gettimeofday under XP
os.gettimeofday() is available everywhere except on Solaris. It seems to work, though (at least on my machine :-) And it's in the Solaris 9 libc. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gettimeofday under XP
Taco Hoekwater schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Arthur Reutenauer schrieb: Error in lua file loading: r:\tex\texmf-mswin\bin\luatools.lua:1402: attempt to call field 'gettimeofday' (a nil value) Your LuaTeX is too old. Take yesterday's beta (0.20). mhh, I already use this version in my minimal installation. There is no doubt about it. Did you forget to copy the new executable to texlua.exe perhaps? Bingo! This reminds me, that there are still three identical huge files in my bin directory. Aside from the waste of space such stupid errors can occur. Is this problem solved in the meantime? Thanks anyway, Peter os.gettimeofday() is available everywhere except on Solaris. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gettimeofday under XP
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: os.gettimeofday() is available everywhere except on Solaris. It seems to work, though (at least on my machine :-) And it's in the Solaris 9 libc. Can you (or someone else) figure out what the C preprocessor defines are for post-SunOs Solaris? If that is clear, I can use that. Either that or a volunteer that wants to work on an autofoo patch for me would make this work on almost all modern machines. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gettimeofday under XP
Peter Rolf wrote: Taco Hoekwater schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Arthur Reutenauer schrieb: Error in lua file loading: r:\tex\texmf-mswin\bin\luatools.lua:1402: attempt to call field 'gettimeofday' (a nil value) Your LuaTeX is too old. Take yesterday's beta (0.20). mhh, I already use this version in my minimal installation. There is no doubt about it. Did you forget to copy the new executable to texlua.exe perhaps? Bingo! This reminds me, that there are still three identical huge files in my bin directory. Aside from the waste of space such stupid errors can occur. Is this problem solved in the meantime? texlua.bat: @echo off luatex --luaonly %1 Should work. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gettimeofday under XP
This reminds me, that there are still three identical huge files in my bin directory. Aside from the waste of space such stupid errors can occur. Is this problem solved in the meantime? Akira Kakuto distributes luatex.dll in his W32TeX distribution, and links all three binaries to them. But it should also be possible to write a simple batch file like texlua.bat calling luatex --luaonly; and that way you don't have to remember to copy all three binaries each time (which is equivalent to linking on Unix, and replacing only the LuaTeX binary). I wonder if anyone has already done that? Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gettimeofday under XP
Taco Hoekwater schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Taco Hoekwater schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Arthur Reutenauer schrieb: Error in lua file loading: r:\tex\texmf-mswin\bin\luatools.lua:1402: attempt to call field 'gettimeofday' (a nil value) Your LuaTeX is too old. Take yesterday's beta (0.20). mhh, I already use this version in my minimal installation. There is no doubt about it. Did you forget to copy the new executable to texlua.exe perhaps? Bingo! This reminds me, that there are still three identical huge files in my bin directory. Aside from the waste of space such stupid errors can occur. Is this problem solved in the meantime? texlua.bat: @echo off luatex --luaonly %1 Should work. Yes, I already had a batch sript for this, but the latest mswin binaries contains a texlua.exe. I didn't check, so it's my own fault. Still there is no such solution for texluac.exe. I run ConTeXt in a RAM disk, so I don't like the idea of wasting any space. Time to learn some more luatex. :) Thanks to all of you for the help! Peter Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
But generally, LuaTeX is much more suitable for such previews (only
that there might be no newshowfont available yet - writing one is
doable if you know what you're interested in).
My two cents: ConTeXt currenty uses
smcp=yes,script=latn,onum=yes,liga=yes...
while fontspec uses either
Letters=SmallCaps
Script=Latin
Numbers=OldStyle
Ligatures=Common
or the same raw names as above. I would prefer the human-readable
names as in fontspec, but ... well, the font calling mechanisms really
need to improve in my opinion.
What fontspec achieves in one line like (copying from XeTeX list):
\setmainfont[Script=Devanagari]{Sanskrit 2003}
needs dozens of lines in ConTeXt (definefontfeature, define
typescripts in two steps, ... b)
So in case that some more features in XeTeX/LuaTeX change, do not be
surprised too much ...
keep in mind that xetex and mkiv support will not be the same in all
those aspects; i more or less expect users to use one or the other
engine and then become familiar with its specific interfaces
anyhow, a next version of mkiv will support more verbose options,
script=slovenian
smallcaps=true
basically anything in the script, language and feature hashes
(lowercased and de-spaced when compared)
something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real reason
for it since then we end up in endless lists of possibilities (given all
kind of combinations)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] gettimeofday under XP
Peter Rolf wrote: Still there is no such solution for texluac.exe. I run ConTeXt in a RAM disk, so I don't like the idea of wasting any space. Actually, texluac.bat: @echo off luatex --luaconly %1 but it is not mentioned in the --help output, so I am not surprised you didn't know that. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gettimeofday under XP
Peter Rolf wrote: This reminds me, that there are still three identical huge files in my bin directory. Aside from the waste of space such stupid errors can occur. Is this problem solved in the meantime? their size is nothing compared to font files -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] gettimeofday under XP
but it is not mentioned in the --help output, so I am not surprised you didn't know that. Who needs that? It's line 388 of luainit.c ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new release
On Dec 6, 2007, at 8:26 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: That particular line: # Error in lua file loading: ?:0: attempt to call field '?' (a nil value) is often the sign of mismatching luatools and ConTeXt version :-) Arthur Yes, thanks for your help, now it works wonderfully. On a related note: this big new release had me waiting in anticipation, so would it be possible to just tell us in a sentence or five or six what the big changes are? I guess with the right switches it can cook my dinner, but would be curious to learn a bit more... Thanks Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
2007/12/6, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 12/6/07, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Hi,
when in february 2006 I asked for an alternative to fontspec that
could show me opentype features, Adam wrote:
I find that the lcdf typetools are a tremendous help:
otfinfo -f ~/Library/Fonts/WarnockPro-Regular.otf
and I can test the features with:
\showfont[Warnock Pro: +smcp]
Today this showfont-line doesn't work anymore:
\definetypeface[oneliner][rm][Xserif][Warnock Pro][default]
\starttext
\oneliner Test WQG 0196
\showfont[Warnock Pro: +smcp]
\stoptext
Someone knows what to do?
(I wasn't aware of such usage ...)
In this specific case you could use
\showfont[SerifCaps]
(if your ConTeXt version is newer than 2007.10.29)
The general approach would be something like:
\definefontfeature[mine][smcp=yes]
\definefontsynonym[a][name:Warnock Pro][features=mine]
\showfont[a]
(grep the sources for definefontfeature)
One question for Hans: would it be possible (make sense) to make this work?
\showfont[name:Iwona][features=mine]
I want such a feature for \setupbodyfont, e.g.
\setupbodyfont[myfont] use the fonfeatures define in the typescript
\setupbodyfont[myfont][features=oldstyle] choose oldstyle figures instead
of the default setting in the typescript, this requires at the moment always
a second typescript with oldstyle numerals.
It would also nice to map \sc to \setfontfeature{smallcaps} because
ConTeXts smallcaps fontsynonym works only for roman typeface and
\os should use the oldstyle fontfeature, it use currently a math font
except I use \variant or define a alternative typescript.
Perhaps there should be some kind of raw prefix introduced (again):
\definefontsynonym[a][raw:Warnock Pro:mapping=tex-text;+smcp]
But generally, LuaTeX is much more suitable for such previews (only
that there might be no newshowfont available yet - writing one is
doable if you know what you're interested in).
My two cents: ConTeXt currenty uses
smcp=yes,script=latn,onum=yes,liga=yes...
while fontspec uses either
Letters=SmallCaps
Script=Latin
Numbers=OldStyle
Ligatures=Common
or the same raw names as above. I would prefer the human-readable
names as in fontspec, but ... well, the font calling mechanisms really
need to improve in my opinion.
What fontspec achieves in one line like (copying from XeTeX list):
\setmainfont[Script=Devanagari]{Sanskrit 2003}
needs dozens of lines in ConTeXt (definefontfeature, define
typescripts in two steps, ... b)
So in case that some more features in XeTeX/LuaTeX change, do not be
surprised too much ...
And even worse both engines have their own default values for fonts.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen: something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real reason for it since then we end up in endless lists of possibilities (given all kind of combinations) I have not yet played with Lua, thus I can't follow your and Mojca's discussion at that point. But to have a handy way to switch on/off oldstyle figures would be very useful! numbers=oldstyle shouldn't be considered as a theoretical possibility, it is needed quite often. Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen:
something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real reason
for it since then we end up in endless lists of possibilities
(given all
kind of combinations)
I have not yet played with Lua, thus I can't follow your and Mojca's
discussion at that point.
But to have a handy way to switch on/off oldstyle figures would be
very useful!
numbers=oldstyle shouldn't be considered as a theoretical
possibility, it is needed quite often.
Steffen
The following should work, can't test it at the moment
\definefontfeature[enableoldstyle][onum=yes]
\definefontfeature[disableoldstyle][onum=no]
\starttext
123 \setfontfeature{enableoldstyle} 456 \setfontfeature{disableoldstyle} 789
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] synonyms with MKIV
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Hans Hagen wrote:
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
The order of key and entry is, the same as in the mkii macro
{ { v[2], v[3] } }, -- key, entry
but you wrote
{ { v[3], v[2] } }, -- entry, key
ok, fixed
just wondering ... now we move to a mix of tex and lua code, how complex
is it to piece together what's happening now inside context
I think that it is going to be easier (once you get the hang of it). When
I started reading mkii code, I understood the steps that were being
followed, but the fine details were pretty hard to understand. With
luatex, the broad steps are still in tex, so that part is the same, but
the fine implementation (that needed a real programming language) are in
lua. This makes it much easier to understand. I could read the new mkiv
pretty printing code and see what it was doing. With the mkii pretty
printing code, I spent about a week and was still clueless (rather, I
understood bits and pieces, but there was no way I could extend it to
another language).
I think that this is enough to overcome to compensate for the overhead
between going back and forth between lua and tex code.
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
Am 06.12.2007 um 12:32 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: In this specific case you could use \showfont[SerifCaps] Nice! What about other fonts, are there other arguments besides SerifCaps ? Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
Am 06.12.2007 um 15:37 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen:
something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real
reason
for it since then we end up in endless lists of possibilities
(given all
kind of combinations)
I have not yet played with Lua, thus I can't follow your and Mojca's
discussion at that point.
But to have a handy way to switch on/off oldstyle figures would be
very useful!
numbers=oldstyle shouldn't be considered as a theoretical
possibility, it is needed quite often.
Steffen
The following should work, can't test it at the moment
\definefontfeature[enableoldstyle][onum=yes]
\definefontfeature[disableoldstyle][onum=no]
\starttext
123 \setfontfeature{enableoldstyle} 456 \setfontfeature
{disableoldstyle} 789
\stoptext
you mean typeset with Lua, right? with XeTeX it yields
! Undefined control sequence.
l.20 \setfontfeature!
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
Am 06.12.2007 um 12:32 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
The general approach would be something like:
\definefontfeature[mine][smcp=yes]
\definefontsynonym[a][name:Warnock Pro][features=mine]
\showfont[a]
(grep the sources for definefontfeature)
hmm ... the only hit is in /base/font-ini.mkii (and font-ini.tex)
\def\mkdefinefontfeature#1% #2
{\setvalue{\??fa#1}} % {#2}
... and, honestly, this doesn't tell me much =o(
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
On Dec 6, 2007 2:48 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
But generally, LuaTeX is much more suitable for such previews (only
that there might be no newshowfont available yet - writing one is
doable if you know what you're interested in).
My two cents: ConTeXt currenty uses
smcp=yes,script=latn,onum=yes,liga=yes...
while fontspec uses either
Letters=SmallCaps
Script=Latin
Numbers=OldStyle
Ligatures=Common
or the same raw names as above. I would prefer the human-readable
names as in fontspec, but ... well, the font calling mechanisms really
need to improve in my opinion.
What fontspec achieves in one line like (copying from XeTeX list):
\setmainfont[Script=Devanagari]{Sanskrit 2003}
needs dozens of lines in ConTeXt (definefontfeature, define
typescripts in two steps, ... b)
So in case that some more features in XeTeX/LuaTeX change, do not be
surprised too much ...
keep in mind that xetex and mkiv support will not be the same in all
those aspects;
Well, to be honest, I wanted to ask you to do something similar to
what you did with enco-utf :) once you finish the mkiv interface.
That is, to auto-generate the list of feature mappings, so that the
interface may remain the same in XeTeX as it is in LuaTeX, like
\defineotflanguagesynonym[slovenian][slv]
\defineotfscriptsynonym[latin][latn]
then, language=dutch can switch on the ij ligature in LM in XeTeX as well :)
(At least someone needs to fight for the rights of XeTeX users :) :) :) :)
i more or less expect users to use one or the other
engine and then become familiar with its specific interfaces
That's true when people use LaTeX :)
That fame of ConTeXt (write once, use everywhere) should not be
dropped at once :(
anyhow, a next version of mkiv will support more verbose options,
script=slovenian
smallcaps=true
Great :)
basically anything in the script, language and feature hashes
(lowercased and de-spaced when compared)
What about
['fin2'] = 'Terminal Forms #2',
['fin3'] = 'Terminal Forms #3',
['ccmp'] = 'Glyph Composition/Decomposition',
? :) :) :)
(Not to be considered a serious question of course :)
something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real reason
for it since then we end up in endless lists of possibilities (given all
kind of combinations)
Some examples:
numbers=monospaced (+tnum)
numbers=proportional (+pnum)
numbers=lowercase/oldstyle (+onum)
numbers=uppercase/lining (+lnum)
numbers=[no]slashedzero (+zero)
letters=normal
letters=uppercase (+case)
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Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
On Dec 6, 2007 5:09 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Am 06.12.2007 um 12:32 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
The general approach would be something like:
\definefontfeature[mine][smcp=yes]
\definefontsynonym[a][name:Warnock Pro][features=mine]
\showfont[a]
(grep the sources for definefontfeature)
hmm ... the only hit is in /base/font-ini.mkii (and font-ini.tex)
\def\mkdefinefontfeature#1% #2
{\setvalue{\??fa#1}} % {#2}
\definefontfeature
[default]
[liga=yes,kern=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes] % texligatures=yes,texquotes=yes
\definefontfeature
[smallcaps]
[liga=yes,kern=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes,smcp=yes] %
texligatures=yes,texquotes=yes
\definefontfeature
[oldstyle]
[liga=yes,kern=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes,onum=yes] %
texligatures=yes,texquotes=yes
font-otf.lua:--
\definefontfeature[calt][language=nld,script=latn,mode=node,calt=yes,clig=yes,rlig=yes]
font-otf.lua:--
\definefontfeature[dflt][language=nld,script=latn,mode=node,calt=no,
clig=yes,rlig=yes]
font-otf.lua:--
\definefontfeature[fixd][language=nld,script=latn,mode=node,calt=no,
clig=yes,rlig=yes,ignoredrules={44,45,47}]
s-pre-64.tex:
\definefontfeature[default][method=node,script=latn,language=dflt,liga=yes,onum=yes,kern=yes]
(Might change!!!)
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Re: [NTG-context] new release
Hi Thomas, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Dec 6, 2007, at 8:26 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: That particular line: # Error in lua file loading: ?:0: attempt to call field '?' (a nil value) is often the sign of mismatching luatools and ConTeXt version :-) Arthur Yes, thanks for your help, now it works wonderfully. On a related note: this big new release had me waiting in anticipation, so would it be possible to just tell us in a sentence or five or six what the big changes are? I guess with the right switches it can cook my dinner, but would be curious to learn a bit more... Well, I have two detail pages in the wiki ... but it is pretty hard to come up with a consise list of improvements. Mostly, mkiv is just faster and better than it was already. :-) http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Context_2007.12.05 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Context_2007.12.06 Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
I ran sudo ctxtools --updatecontext about one hour ago and all this
that you write here can't be found (s-pre-63.tex is the latest) ...
Where did you mean should I grep the sources for definefontfeature ??
Steffen
Am 06.12.2007 um 17:35 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
On Dec 6, 2007 5:09 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Am 06.12.2007 um 12:32 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
The general approach would be something like:
\definefontfeature[mine][smcp=yes]
\definefontsynonym[a][name:Warnock Pro][features=mine]
\showfont[a]
(grep the sources for definefontfeature)
hmm ... the only hit is in /base/font-ini.mkii (and font-ini.tex)
\def\mkdefinefontfeature#1% #2
{\setvalue{\??fa#1}} % {#2}
\definefontfeature
[default]
[liga=yes,kern=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes] %
texligatures=yes,texquotes=yes
\definefontfeature
[smallcaps]
[liga=yes,kern=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes,smcp=yes] %
texligatures=yes,texquotes=yes
\definefontfeature
[oldstyle]
[liga=yes,kern=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes,onum=yes] %
texligatures=yes,texquotes=yes
font-otf.lua:--
\definefontfeature[calt]
[language=nld,script=latn,mode=node,calt=yes,clig=yes,rlig=yes]
font-otf.lua:--
\definefontfeature[dflt][language=nld,script=latn,mode=node,calt=no,
clig=yes,rlig=yes]
font-otf.lua:--
\definefontfeature[fixd][language=nld,script=latn,mode=node,calt=no,
clig=yes,rlig=yes,ignoredrules={44,45,47}]
s-pre-64.tex:
\definefontfeature[default]
[method=node,script=latn,language=dflt,liga=yes,onum=yes,kern=yes]
(Might change!!!)
Mojca
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[NTG-context] backward compatibility [URGENT]
Hi, re-typesetting a book (that was last set with ConTeXt ver: 2007.08.09) I had to see that several pages now have a different line- break (and so the page-break and the TOC and the index register are changed) ... quite a mess. I guess is not so easy to find out what changes in the ConTeXt source result in these changes now. So to continue work it will be probably better to downgrade again my ConTeXt. Is there an easy way to do this, like using sudo ctxtools -- updatecontext and use the respective files from the museum? Thanks, Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Am 06.12.2007 um 15:37 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen:
something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real
reason
for it since then we end up in endless lists of possibilities
(given all
kind of combinations)
I have not yet played with Lua, thus I can't follow your and Mojca's
discussion at that point.
But to have a handy way to switch on/off oldstyle figures would be
very useful!
numbers=oldstyle shouldn't be considered as a theoretical
possibility, it is needed quite often.
Steffen
The following should work, can't test it at the moment
\definefontfeature[enableoldstyle][onum=yes]
\definefontfeature[disableoldstyle][onum=no]
\starttext
123 \setfontfeature{enableoldstyle} 456 \setfontfeature
{disableoldstyle} 789
\stoptext
you mean typeset with Lua, right? with XeTeX it yields
! Undefined control sequence.
l.20 \setfontfeature!
This is a new feature introduced only for LuaTeX, not XeTeX
and allows you to choose a different fontfeature in your document.
Could be used overwrite the defaults for \os and \sc.
\def\os{\setfonrfeature{oldstyle}}
\def\sc{\setfonrfeature{smallscaps}}
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] backward compatibility [URGENT]
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Hi, re-typesetting a book (that was last set with ConTeXt ver: 2007.08.09) I had to see that several pages now have a different line- break (and so the page-break and the TOC and the index register are changed) ... quite a mess. I guess is not so easy to find out what changes in the ConTeXt source result in these changes now. So to continue work it will be probably better to downgrade again my ConTeXt. Is there an easy way to do this, like using sudo ctxtools -- updatecontext and use the respective files from the museum? hm, not that much was changed in toc/register code, so maybe you can diff and see what happened; we're talking mkii i presume - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
2007/12/6, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Dec 6, 2007 5:09 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Am 06.12.2007 um 12:32 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
The general approach would be something like:
\definefontfeature[mine][smcp=yes]
\definefontsynonym[a][name:Warnock Pro][features=mine]
\showfont[a]
(grep the sources for definefontfeature)
hmm ... the only hit is in /base/font-ini.mkii (and font-ini.tex)
\def\mkdefinefontfeature#1% #2
{\setvalue{\??fa#1}} % {#2}
\definefontfeature
[default]
[liga=yes,kern=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes] % texligatures=yes,texquotes=yes
\definefontfeature
[smallcaps]
[liga=yes,kern=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes,smcp=yes] %
texligatures=yes,texquotes=yes
I would prefer something like
\definefontfeature
[smallcaps]
[default] % inherit settings from default
[smcp=yes] % add smcp to the feature list
I can define my own fontfeature without looking into the source.
Wolfgang
\definefontfeature
[oldstyle]
[liga=yes,kern=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes,onum=yes] %
texligatures=yes,texquotes=yes
font-otf.lua:--
\definefontfeature[calt][language=nld,script=latn,mode=node,calt=yes,clig=yes,rlig=yes]
font-otf.lua:--
\definefontfeature[dflt][language=nld,script=latn,mode=node,calt=no,
clig=yes,rlig=yes]
font-otf.lua:--
\definefontfeature[fixd][language=nld,script=latn,mode=node,calt=no,
clig=yes,rlig=yes,ignoredrules={44,45,47}]
s-pre-64.tex:
\definefontfeature[default][method=node,script=latn,language=dflt,liga=yes,onum=yes,kern=yes]
(Might change!!!)
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] backward compatibility [URGENT]
On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:31:58 -0700, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an easy way to do this, like using sudo ctxtools -- updatecontext and use the respective files from the museum? Where is the museum exactly? I usually keep old cont-tmf's for up to half a year before deleting them but if there is a depository... Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
2007/12/6, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Dec 6, 2007 5:09 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Am 06.12.2007 um 12:32 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
The general approach would be something like:
\definefontfeature[mine][smcp=yes]
\definefontsynonym[a][name:Warnock Pro][features=mine]
\showfont[a]
(grep the sources for definefontfeature)
hmm ... the only hit is in /base/font-ini.mkii (and font-ini.tex)
\def\mkdefinefontfeature#1% #2
{\setvalue{\??fa#1}} % {#2}
\definefontfeature
[default]
[liga=yes,kern=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes] % texligatures=yes,texquotes=yes
\definefontfeature
[smallcaps]
[liga=yes,kern=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes,smcp=yes] %
texligatures=yes,texquotes=yes
I would prefer something like
\definefontfeature
[smallcaps]
[default] % inherit settings from default
[smcp=yes] % add smcp to the feature list
something like that ...
keep in mind that you don't need to define a font then,
{\setfontfeature{smallcaps}Some Text}
will automatically give you that featureset so in practice we can do
with only a few real font definitions; mkiv keeps track of such dunamic
features and efficiently caches data;
we sped up luatex + mkiv some 30% and when using dynamic features with
huge fonts (zapfino, arab, chinese) we can even gain more
(our sample mk.tex went from 29 seconds down to some 20 seconds and
dynamic arab gives another 2 a 3 seconds; a fast console another 2+
seconds but that's another story; just in case you wondered why it took
a while for this beta to surface)
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Re: [NTG-context] backward compatibility [URGENT]
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:31:58 -0700, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an easy way to do this, like using sudo ctxtools -- updatecontext and use the respective files from the museum? Where is the museum exactly? I usually keep old cont-tmf's for up to half a year before deleting them but if there is a depository... See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Revisions Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Am 06.12.2007 um 15:37 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
2007/12/6, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Am 06.12.2007 um 14:48 schrieb Hans Hagen:
something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real
reason
for it since then we end up in endless lists of possibilities
(given all
kind of combinations)
I have not yet played with Lua, thus I can't follow your and Mojca's
discussion at that point.
But to have a handy way to switch on/off oldstyle figures would be
very useful!
numbers=oldstyle shouldn't be considered as a theoretical
possibility, it is needed quite often.
Steffen
The following should work, can't test it at the moment
\definefontfeature[enableoldstyle][onum=yes]
\definefontfeature[disableoldstyle][onum=no]
\starttext
123 \setfontfeature{enableoldstyle} 456 \setfontfeature
{disableoldstyle} 789
\stoptext
you mean typeset with Lua, right? with XeTeX it yields
! Undefined control sequence.
l.20 \setfontfeature!
This is a new feature introduced only for LuaTeX, not XeTeX
and allows you to choose a different fontfeature in your document.
Could be used overwrite the defaults for \os and \sc.
\def\os{\setfonrfeature{oldstyle}}
\def\sc{\setfonrfeature{smallscaps}}
if you set auto=yes, this mechanism also adapts itself to the language,
which for instance for palatino-nova means that in german one does not
get an ij lig but in dutch it magically shows up (or ae ligature in
french but not english)
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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] The ISO 32000 Standard (DIS)
On Dec 6, 2007 9:08 AM, Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adobe has received word that the Ballot for approval of PDF 1.7 to become the ISO 32000 Standard (DIS) has passed by a vote of 13::1. I wonder if I should feel ashamed for the vote of my delegation? ;-) well , yes or no ? I mean, I don't understand if it's good to have a iso standard of ~PDF 1.7 -- luigi ... it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] backward compatibility [URGENT]
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:31:58 -0700, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an easy way to do this, like using sudo ctxtools -- updatecontext and use the respective files from the museum? Where is the museum exactly? I usually keep old cont-tmf's for up to half a year before deleting them but if there is a depository... See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Revisions Hans, How hard is to implement a --downgrade switch (or --upgrade=version) in ctxtools? It would be as simple as: 1. Go to http://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/?group_id=14, parse for the particular date and download the appropriate files, or 2. Try all files tmf, exa, win|ppc|?? one by one, and download the ones that are available, and then unzip the files and remake the formats. This would make going back to an old version really easy. I don't know if packet managers for linux like apt-get can downgrade to an earlier version. In any case, this will be a very useful feature. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
Am 06.12.2007 um 18:55 schrieb Hans Hagen:
something like that ...
keep in mind that you don't need to define a font then,
{\setfontfeature{smallcaps}Some Text}
will automatically give you that featureset so in practice we can do
with only a few real font definitions; mkiv keeps track of such
dunamic
features and efficiently caches data;
we sped up luatex + mkiv some 30% and when using dynamic features with
huge fonts (zapfino, arab, chinese) we can even gain more
wow!!
st.
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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] The ISO 32000 Standard (DIS)
luigi scarso wrote: On Dec 6, 2007 9:08 AM, Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adobe has received word that the Ballot for approval of PDF 1.7 to become the ISO 32000 Standard (DIS) has passed by a vote of 13::1. I wonder if I should feel ashamed for the vote of my delegation? ;-) well , yes or no ? I mean, I don't understand if it's good to have a iso standard of ~PDF 1.7 standard is somewhat dubious if it's a kind of subset of the real thing i.e. it's this encryption stuff and viewer depend thingies that disturb me most; but then, svg (to mention one) is not better (with all this to be parsed data in attributes) so ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] showfont with xetex (syntax changed?)
Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Am 06.12.2007 um 18:55 schrieb Hans Hagen:
something like that ...
keep in mind that you don't need to define a font then,
{\setfontfeature{smallcaps}Some Text}
will automatically give you that featureset so in practice we can do
with only a few real font definitions; mkiv keeps track of such
dunamic
features and efficiently caches data;
we sped up luatex + mkiv some 30% and when using dynamic features with
huge fonts (zapfino, arab, chinese) we can even gain more
wow!!
gave us a good feeling too -)
luatex will always be slower than pdftex, if only because it has wide
fonts, multi-directional typesetting etc; to some extend this can be
compensatd by using less fonts, but then, more features also has a price
Hans
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[NTG-context] Verses
Hi, Do you guys have tips on how to typeset verses? There's an item for that on the wiki: wiki.contextgarden.net/Visuals but nobody filled it yet. If we collect a nice bunch of tips I can put them in the wiki. Thanks for your help, Maurício ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] hyphen with \useURL
Hello, With luatex-0.20.0 and ConTeXt-2007.12.6 a hyphen is introduced in the following URL: % engine=luatex \setupinteraction[state=start] \starttext \useURL[ref][http://gaston/]\from[ref] \stoptext Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] problem with \setupcombinedlist[content][alternative=c]
Hello,
With luatex-0.20.0 and ConTeXt-2007.12.6 the \completecontent is messed up
and the first paragraphs are supressed:
% engine=luatex
\setupcombinedlist[content][alternative=c]
\starttext
\completecontent
\dorecurse{10}{
\section{sec}
\input tufte
\subsection{subsec}
\input tufte
\subsection{subsec}
\input tufte
\subsection{subsec}
\input tufte
}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] bugged mkiv
On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:04:04 -0700, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,
there is a bug in the feature processer of the latest current mkiv (I
added a verbose resolved but forgot something)
so ... update ... (only if you're using mkiv)
mkiv now also no longerloads the unic-* files (no need for that)
i bet that some more bugs will show up -)
Indeed. Upon updating the luatex format:
) (C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/lang-dis.tex
loading : Context Language Macros / Distribution Patterns
)
! I can't find file `unic-ini.mkiv'.
to be read again
\relax
l.288 \loadmarkfile{unic-ini}
Please advise :-)
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Re: [NTG-context] bugged mkiv
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:04:04 -0700, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,
there is a bug in the feature processer of the latest current mkiv (I
added a verbose resolved but forgot something)
so ... update ... (only if you're using mkiv)
mkiv now also no longerloads the unic-* files (no need for that)
i bet that some more bugs will show up -)
Indeed. Upon updating the luatex format:
) (C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/lang-dis.tex
loading : Context Language Macros / Distribution Patterns
)
! I can't find file `unic-ini.mkiv'.
to be read again
\relax
l.288 \loadmarkfile{unic-ini}
strange, it's in my zippable tree; i'll regenerate the zips
hans
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[NTG-context] booklet set up
Hello, I'm creating a textbook as a booklet (two A5 per A4), and have difficulties. 1) If I use imposition command \setuparranging, then Luatex doesn't process references. I know, there are workarounds, but I prefer to create A5 pages and then impose them using nice Acrobat plugin. However, I don't know how to make Luatex to process left and right pages differently (for future imposing). If I set left margin, then it is really left through the document, but I need it to be on the right every second page, and vice versa. How to achieve it? (I tried 'mirrored' option in \setuppapersize, and got funny result) ;) 2) I was always scared by explanation of \showlayout on texshow: Horizontal: (if singleside then outside is at right and inside is at left) === width = width of text area middle: automatic calculation consider A) params fit: automatic calculation consider A)+B) params dimension: cutspace should be 0 and is calculated according to backspace A) params: (\paperwidth=\backspace+\makeupwidth+\cutspace) backspace = width of inner margin cutspace = width of outer margin (if 0 then = backspace!) ... and so on. It looks like a program, not manual, and I never understood it, despite it explains very important concept, missed on Wiki -- 'fit' and 'middle' options. Can someone throw a light on these? Best regards, Vyatcheslav ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] booklet set up
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: 2) I was always scared by explanation of \showlayout on texshow: Horizontal: (if singleside then outside is at right and inside is at left) === width = width of text area middle: automatic calculation consider A) params fit: automatic calculation consider A)+B) params dimension: cutspace should be 0 and is calculated according to backspace A) params: (\paperwidth=\backspace+\makeupwidth+\cutspace) backspace = width of inner margin cutspace = width of outer margin (if 0 then = backspace!) ... and so on. It looks like a program, not manual, and I never understood it, despite it explains very important concept, missed on Wiki -- 'fit' and 'middle' options. Can someone throw a light on these? There are some nice examples in the context manual. Different layout settings and how the typeset page looks. Also try the t-layout package by Patrick. It helped me a lot to see how the layout will look like. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Hair space and non-breaking hyphen
Hi, I've seen two interesting Unicode characters that I would like to use: Hair space: U+200A (it's supposed to be a space that's small, used around emdashes sometimes). Non-breaking hyphen: U+2011 (an hyphen where the word is not supposed to be broken by hyphenation). I would like to know if I can use them in Context. Is Context going to respect non-breaking hyphens in hyphenation algorithms? Is hair space going to be what it is supposed to, no matter which font I use? Thanks, Maurício ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Unicode characters by number
Hi, Is it possible to enter an Unicode character in a Context file using the character Unicode number? How can I do that? Thanks, Maurício ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Verses
Hi Maurício,
i am using something like this:
\setupframedtexts[width=\textwidth,frame=off,offset=none,before=,after=,]
\starttext
\obeylines
\subsection{Title}
\startframed
verstext
verstext
verstext
verstext
\stopframedtext
\stoptext
The \startframedtext \stopframedtext prevents the verses from
splitting.
King regards,
Chris
Hi,
Do you guys have tips on how to typeset verses? There's an item
for that on the wiki:
wiki.contextgarden.net/Visuals
but nobody filled it yet. If we collect a nice bunch of tips I
can put them in the wiki.
Thanks for your help, Maurício
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