Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-21 Thread Bart C. Wise
On Tue January 20 2009 7:06:58 am Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
 2009/1/20 Bart C. Wise bntgcont...@wiseguysweb.com:
  I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me the
  exact error message, but I have not received it yet.  But he did say that
  his printing shop wants the ability to download just the header
  information from a pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to
  80 mbytes.  From that header information they will have the ability to
  render individual pages rather than the whole document.  For example,
  they could request page 264 and render that single page as a jpeg.

 This sounds like web optimized PDFs, those contain a second object
 index at the start (normal PDFs have it at the end), so a *browser*
 can request selected pages from the *webserver* without loading the
 whole document.

 It's meant as a web technology, and I never heard of anyone using it
 in a print workflow. But it's not impossible.


 Tha has *nothing* to do with tagged PDF!
 Tagged is a technology to enable re-flowing text contents to e.g.
 small devices or extracting of content for alternative readers, e.g.
 screenreaders.
 PDFs for print should *not* be tagged in this way, for it can confuse
 a print workflow.

 Printshops should adhere to printing standards like PDF/X-1a and
 PDF/X-3 - and these never need web optimization or tagging!

Excuse the ignorance, but does LuaTeX produce a PDF based on the PDF/X-1a and
PDF/X-3 standards?

Bart



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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-21 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Bart C. Wise
bntgcont...@wiseguysweb.comwrote:

 On Tue January 20 2009 7:06:58 am Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
  2009/1/20 Bart C. Wise bntgcont...@wiseguysweb.com:
   I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me the
   exact error message, but I have not received it yet.  But he did say
 that
   his printing shop wants the ability to download just the header
   information from a pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up
 to
   80 mbytes.  From that header information they will have the ability to
   render individual pages rather than the whole document.  For example,
   they could request page 264 and render that single page as a jpeg.
 
  This sounds like web optimized PDFs, those contain a second object
  index at the start (normal PDFs have it at the end), so a *browser*
  can request selected pages from the *webserver* without loading the
  whole document.
 
  It's meant as a web technology, and I never heard of anyone using it
  in a print workflow. But it's not impossible.
 
 
  Tha has *nothing* to do with tagged PDF!
  Tagged is a technology to enable re-flowing text contents to e.g.
  small devices or extracting of content for alternative readers, e.g.
  screenreaders.
  PDFs for print should *not* be tagged in this way, for it can confuse
  a print workflow.
 
  Printshops should adhere to printing standards like PDF/X-1a and
  PDF/X-3 - and these never need web optimization or tagging!

 Excuse the ignorance, but does LuaTeX produce a PDF based on the PDF/X-1a
 and
 PDF/X-3 standards?


For ghostscript
 http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/svn/Ps2pdf.htm

for pdftex
 http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/pdfx

I'm not sure if luatex can produce these kind of pdf

-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages

2009-01-21 Thread Antoine Junod
Hi Wolfgang,

Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com writes:

 Am 20.01.2009 um 16:25 schrieb Antoine Junod:

 In fact my reply was a bit fast: in the example below the table is
 split on pages 2 and 3. But the lines of the table are not
 aligned. I'll dig the sources too see if it's possible to do that. But
 if anyone has a solution, I'm interested :)

 You can solve it with twopassdata and a few wrapper macros to hide
 the underlying macros in your document. Take a look in my example
 how this can be done.

 You need the arrange key for texexec to let it work in imposition
 mode.

That is a lot of things I haven't heard about :) But thanks, it's
doing the job in a perfect way.

Would it be constructive to put that in the wiki or is it just a hack
that won't be needed anymore with a future release? If it's not a
temporary hack, tell me and I'll edit the wiki.

Thanks,
-AJ
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[NTG-context] Howto make citations work in aps bibtex

2009-01-21 Thread Jan-Erik Hägglöf
Hi All!

Have an issue getting \cite command working properly. Working on a
undergraduate thesis in physics and the bibliography. 

I have read in bibmod-doc.pdf(Tacos manual) and also on the wiki about
how to make this work properly. So I did set this in the preamble of my
document. It sees the referenser.bib and a proper *.bbl file is
produced.

\usemodule  [bib]
\usemodule[bibltx]
\setupbibtex[database=referenser]
\setuppublications[alternative=aps,criterium=all]

\starttext
\cite[ref] does only display [1] as a result.
\stoptext

I tried \cite[authoryear][ref] but it gets some annoying results.
Because i want the result be like this in the output

Example: These statements has been declared by [authorlastname,(year)]

Please give a code sample how to make this work! 

Thanks in advance!

//Janneman
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Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages

2009-01-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Antoine Junod t...@tots-ns.net wrote:

 You can solve it with twopassdata and a few wrapper macros to hide
 the underlying macros in your document. Take a look in my example
 how this can be done.

 That is a lot of things I haven't heard about :) But thanks, it's
 doing the job in a perfect way.

 Would it be constructive to put that in the wiki or is it just a hack
 that won't be needed anymore with a future release? If it's not a
 temporary hack, tell me and I'll edit the wiki.

I use this method myself in a document in it's harmless if you know
what you do und what are the limitations e.g. the header above the table
should be longer than one line and you need a page break before the first
savetopassdata command and one after the second.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-21 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
2009/1/20 Bart C. Wise bntgcont...@wiseguysweb.com:
 Printshops should adhere to printing standards like PDF/X-1a and
 PDF/X-3 - and these never need web optimization or tagging!
 Excuse the ignorance, but does LuaTeX produce a PDF based on the PDF/X-1a and
 PDF/X-3 standards?

Not by itself.
Yo have to make sure on your own that your embedded PDFs are ok.
TeX doesn't set any PDF/X markers - for it doesn't check embedded
material that would no good idea anyway.
But you can easily prepare PDFs within the borders of PDF/X-1a (e.g.
only CMYK data, no animations) using TeX.
PDF/X-3 is also possible (I guess), but harder (you need the right
color profiles everywhere).
In my experience too much printshops can't handle PDF/X-3 anyway...

Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] Howto make citations work in aps bibtex

2009-01-21 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Jan-Erik Hägglöf wrote:

Hi All!

Have an issue getting \cite command working properly. Working on a
undergraduate thesis in physics and the bibliography. 


I have read in bibmod-doc.pdf(Tacos manual) and also on the wiki about
how to make this work properly. So I did set this in the preamble of my
document. It sees the referenser.bib and a proper *.bbl file is
produced.

\usemodule  [bib]
\usemodule[bibltx]
\setupbibtex[database=referenser]
\setuppublications[alternative=aps,criterium=all]

\starttext
\cite[ref] does only display [1] as a result.
\stoptext

I tried \cite[authoryear][ref] but it gets some annoying results.
Because i want the result be like this in the output

Example: These statements has been declared by [authorlastname,(year)]

Please give a code sample how to make this work! 


Why are you using the aps style if you don't want aps-style output?
That does not make sense. It seems that apa is much closer to what
you want?

Best wishes,
Taco

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[NTG-context] Defining a function

2009-01-21 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I defined a command as descriped in
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Processing_Lists. (\def\IHaveTo#1#2{I
have to #1 on #2.\par})
If I define it in the tex-file that is processed it works.
But when I put the definition in the template file that is used, it
does not work. What do I need to do to define a command in a template
file?

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Re: [NTG-context] Howto make citations work in aps bibtex

2009-01-21 Thread Jan-Erik Hägglöf
ons 2009-01-21 klockan 13:04 +0100 skrev Taco Hoekwater:
 Jan-Erik Hägglöf wrote:
  Hi All!
  
  Have an issue getting \cite command working properly. Working on a
  undergraduate thesis in physics and the bibliography. 
  
  I have read in bibmod-doc.pdf(Tacos manual) and also on the wiki about
  how to make this work properly. So I did set this in the preamble of my
  document. It sees the referenser.bib and a proper *.bbl file is
  produced.
  
  \usemodule  [bib]
  \usemodule[bibltx]
  \setupbibtex[database=referenser]
  \setuppublications[alternative=aps,criterium=all]
  
  \starttext
  \cite[ref] does only display [1] as a result.
  \stoptext
  
  I tried \cite[authoryear][ref] but it gets some annoying results.
  Because i want the result be like this in the output
  
  Example: These statements has been declared by [authorlastname,(year)]
  
  Please give a code sample how to make this work! 
 
 Why are you using the aps style if you don't want aps-style output?
 That does not make sense. It seems that apa is much closer to what
 you want?
 
 Best wishes,
 Taco

In apa-style there is author (year) appearance, and I just want
[authorlastname,(year)] result with those hooks.

 Well if it is easier to modify it in apa so it is better. Just that
aps=american physical society and I thought it has several
sub-standards. Just referring to what styles are used in several books
about physics. But maybe I have to investigate it further.

//Janneman
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Re: [NTG-context] Defining a function

2009-01-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote:
 I defined a command as descriped in
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Processing_Lists. (\def\IHaveTo#1#2{I
 have to #1 on #2.\par})
 If I define it in the tex-file that is processed it works.
 But when I put the definition in the template file that is used, it
 does not work. What do I need to do to define a command in a template
 file?

How do you load your template file?

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] setupindenting

2009-01-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Cecil Westerhof
cldwester...@gmail.com wrote:
 With setupindenting I can define the level of indenting. But I want a
 different level of indentation for different paragraphs. How can I do
 this?

You can define a environment for special sections and set a different
indent parameter inside of this section. I need more information to give
you a better answer.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Defining a function

2009-01-21 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2009/1/21 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com:
 On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I defined a command as descriped in
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Processing_Lists. (\def\IHaveTo#1#2{I
 have to #1 on #2.\par})
 If I define it in the tex-file that is processed it works.
 But when I put the definition in the template file that is used, it
 does not work. What do I need to do to define a command in a template
 file?

 How do you load your template file?

With \usemodule. But I allready found the problem. I used a template I
found on the internet. This started with \protect and ended with
\unprotect. It should be the other way around. I changed that and now
it works.

-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] setupindenting

2009-01-21 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2009/1/21 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com:
 On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Cecil Westerhof
 cldwester...@gmail.com wrote:
 With setupindenting I can define the level of indenting. But I want a
 different level of indentation for different paragraphs. How can I do
 this?

 You can define a environment for special sections and set a different
 indent parameter inside of this section. I need more information to give
 you a better answer.

In my template I have:
\long\def\letterbody#1{\blank[line]\setupindenting[yes, medium]#1}
\setupindenting[yes, none]
\long\def\letterclosing#1#2{
\blank[line]#1
\blank[3*line]#2
}

In the document itself I have:
\letterbody{
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Donec auctor, purus
faucibus iaculis rutrum, sapien nisl venenatis arcu, eu
condimentum elit enim
eget magna. Nullam risus tortor, ultricies a, lacinia ac, dictum at,
massa. Integer risus. Cras ipsum risus, ultrices eget, aliquet id, egestas
nec, dui. Cras et quam. Mauris sit amet leo. Duis ac nibh. Aliquam vitae
est. Praesent justo. Morbi faucibus. Praesent laoreet erat eu mauris.
\blank[line]
Suspendisse fringilla tincidunt sapien. Aliquam rhoncus venenatis urna. Sed
tellus. Mauris at sapien. Donec commodo arcu non felis. Praesent aliquam
pellentesque libero. Donec vestibulum mauris. Nulla facilisi. Pellentesque
ultrices ornare elit. Ut nibh lacus, laoreet a, tempor eu, condimentum at,
tortor. Nunc pretium. Morbi pede purus, vestibulum at, mattis ac, volutpat
eget, arcu. Nunc congue, pede id euismod porttitor, eros orci
cursus nibh, sit
amet fringilla sem eros nec libero. Pellentesque tempor. Phasellus
malesuada,
sapien id tristique blandit, est ante fringilla neque, et feugiat nunc ipsum
nec augue.

Nullam id ante sit amet pede feugiat laoreet. Sed porttitor vulputate
leo. Nulla tincidunt. Phasellus sagittis, justo a feugiat tristique, ante
felis imperdiet mauris, vitae dapibus metus quam ac risus. Donec lacinia
congue neque. Mauris in quam at leo dignissim hendrerit. Cras interdum dolor
ut lacus. Mauris a justo. Aenean vel nulla. Ut non felis varius
ante convallis
pulvinar. Duis viverra. Mauris gravida, mauris tincidunt accumsan semper,
ligula ipsum elementum dolor, id scelerisque sapien lorem vitae
orci. Suspendisse potenti. Nam luctus tempus orci. In iaculis. Aliquam
varius. Proin suscipit, tortor vel consequat fringilla, augue dolor
consectetur dui, vitae aliquet dolor eros sed risus.
}
\setupindenting[yes, none] % necessary, because of problem with the template

\letterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}

\stoptext


When the setupindenting is not there, the letterclosing is indented.

-- 
Cecil Westerhof
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Re: [NTG-context] Howto make citations work in aps bibtex

2009-01-21 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Jan-Erik Hägglöf wrote:

 Example: These statements has been declared by [authorlastname,(year)]

 Please give a code sample how to make this work! 
 Why are you using the aps style if you don't want aps-style output?
 That does not make sense. It seems that apa is much closer to what
 you want?

 Best wishes,
 Taco
 
 In apa-style there is author (year) appearance, and I just want
 [authorlastname,(year)] result with those hooks.

The bib module has no support for just authorlastname (as opposed to
author), if you want that then you have to edit the bbl file.

For the rest of the citation formatting: it is easiest to
define your own macro:

  \def\mycite[#1]{[{\cite[author][#1]},({\cite[year][#1]})]}

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] setupindenting

2009-01-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/1/21 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com:
 On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Cecil Westerhof
 cldwester...@gmail.com wrote:
 With setupindenting I can define the level of indenting. But I want a
 different level of indentation for different paragraphs. How can I do
 this?

 You can define a environment for special sections and set a different
 indent parameter inside of this section. I need more information to give
 you a better answer.

 In my template I have:
\long\def\letterbody#1{\blank[line]\setupindenting[yes, medium]#1}

\long\def\letterbody#1%
  {{\blank[line]\setupindenting[yes,medium]#1\par}}

You could also write this as environment with

\definestartstop
  [letterbody]
  [before={\blank[line]},
   commands={\setupindenting[yes,medium]}]

and write in your document

\startletterbody
letter content
\stopletterbody

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] setupindenting

2009-01-21 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2009/1/21 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com:
 In my template I have:
\long\def\letterbody#1{\blank[line]\setupindenting[yes, medium]#1}

 \long\def\letterbody#1%
  {{\blank[line]\setupindenting[yes,medium]#1\par}}

That works. Thanks.
So when you do not want a side effect you need to use double accolades?
Why did you put the \par in?

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Re: [NTG-context] setupindenting

2009-01-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/1/21 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com:
 In my template I have:
\long\def\letterbody#1{\blank[line]\setupindenting[yes, medium]#1}

 \long\def\letterbody#1%
  {{\blank[line]\setupindenting[yes,medium]#1\par}}

 That works. Thanks.
 So when you do not want a side effect you need to use double accolades?

To keep the value for \setupindenting local to \letterbody.

 Why did you put the \par in?

To end the paragraph before after the lettertext.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] setupindenting

2009-01-21 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2009/1/21 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com:
 So when you do not want a side effect you need to use double accolades?

 To keep the value for \setupindenting local to \letterbody.

That was what I mend in a general sense: if you do not want side
effects, you need double accolades. But I am not always very clear.


 Why did you put the \par in?

 To end the paragraph before after the lettertext.

I do not see a difference between with the \par and without it. But to
be sure, I put it in.

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[NTG-context] Using defaults and indexes

2009-01-21 Thread Cecil Westerhof
In my template I have:
\long\def\letterclosing#1#2{
\blank[line]#1,
\blank[3*line]#2
}

And in the main file I have:
\letterclosing{Hoogachtend}{Cecil Westerhof}

But I would like to have this as the default, so I could use:
\letterclosing

Beside that I would like to have the possibility to use:
\letterclosing{business}
or
\letterclosing{family}

This would then use defined values.

When the first parameter is filled, but not with a recognized value,
then the second parameter should be filled. If not, the compilation of
the file should generate an error. Is this something that can be done?

-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] Howto make citations work in aps bibtex

2009-01-21 Thread Jan-Erik Hägglöf
HI!

So I did as you proposed

\def\mycite[#1]{[{\cite[author][#1]},({\cite[year][#1]})]}
 in my preamble environment file

also I did

\setupbibtex[database=referenser]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa,criterium=all]
% inherits from adityas thesis example Do not why it is there 
\let\initializepubslist\relax 
  \def\mycite[#1]{[{\cite[author][#1]},({\cite[year][#1]})]}

and did \mycite[ref]

Here is the output:

! Missing \endcsname inserted.
to be read again 
   \@@pvauthorcolor 
\doactivatecolor ...\ifcsname (cs:\currentpalet #1
  )\endcsname \csname
(cs:\c...
\doattributes ...rtcolor [\csname #1#3\endcsname ]
  \else \let
\dostopattribut...
\dogotospace ...edwords {#1}\processisolatedword }
  \else #1\relax
\fi }\else ...
\doifreferencefoundelse ...ce \ifreferencefound #2
  \else #3\fi \egroup
\dores...
\dogoto ...#2]}} {\unknownreference {#2}#1\relax }
  \egroup \referenceinfo
{}...
...
l.25 ...tmekaniska effekter\mycite[Gombosi1998pot]
   kap 3, sid 53. Detta
är ...
? 
end output

Something went wrong with the macro?

ons 2009-01-21 klockan 14:55 +0100 skrev Taco Hoekwater:
 
 Jan-Erik Hägglöf wrote:
 
  Example: These statements has been declared by [authorlastname,(year)]
 
  Please give a code sample how to make this work! 
  Why are you using the aps style if you don't want aps-style output?
  That does not make sense. It seems that apa is much closer to what
  you want?
 
  Best wishes,
  Taco
  
  In apa-style there is author (year) appearance, and I just want
  [authorlastname,(year)] result with those hooks.
 
 The bib module has no support for just authorlastname (as opposed to
 author), if you want that then you have to edit the bbl file.
 
 For the rest of the citation formatting: it is easiest to
 define your own macro:
 
   \def\mycite[#1]{[{\cite[author][#1]},({\cite[year][#1]})]}
 
 Best wishes,
 Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Howto make citations work in aps bibtex

2009-01-21 Thread Jan-Erik Hägglöf
Seems that 

\cite[year][ref] and \cite[author] doesn't work.

only default \cite[authoryears][ref] and \cite[authoryear][ref] and just
\cite[ref] seems to work. 

so nothing wrong with the macro.

Is there some settings that I have to fix?

My Context minimal intallation is:

This is luaTeX, Version snapshot-0.31.3
(uppsats.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2009.01.14 11:29 MKIV  fmt: 2009.1.16  int:
english/english

//Janneman


ons 2009-01-21 klockan 16:03 +0100 skrev Jan-Erik Hägglöf:
 HI!
 
 So I did as you proposed
 
 \def\mycite[#1]{[{\cite[author][#1]},({\cite[year][#1]})]}
  in my preamble environment file
 
 also I did
 
 \setupbibtex[database=referenser]
 \setuppublications[alternative=apa,criterium=all]
 % inherits from adityas thesis example Do not why it is there 
 \let\initializepubslist\relax 
   \def\mycite[#1]{[{\cite[author][#1]},({\cite[year][#1]})]}
 
 and did \mycite[ref]
 
 Here is the output:
 
 ! Missing \endcsname inserted.
 to be read again 
\@@pvauthorcolor 
 \doactivatecolor ...\ifcsname (cs:\currentpalet #1
   )\endcsname \csname
 (cs:\c...
 \doattributes ...rtcolor [\csname #1#3\endcsname ]
   \else \let
 \dostopattribut...
 \dogotospace ...edwords {#1}\processisolatedword }
   \else #1\relax
 \fi }\else ...
 \doifreferencefoundelse ...ce \ifreferencefound #2
   \else #3\fi \egroup
 \dores...
 \dogoto ...#2]}} {\unknownreference {#2}#1\relax }
   \egroup \referenceinfo
 {}...
 ...
 l.25 ...tmekaniska effekter\mycite[Gombosi1998pot]
kap 3, sid 53. Detta
 är ...
 ? 
 end output
 
 Something went wrong with the macro?
 
 ons 2009-01-21 klockan 14:55 +0100 skrev Taco Hoekwater:
  
  Jan-Erik Hägglöf wrote:
  
   Example: These statements has been declared by [authorlastname,(year)]
  
   Please give a code sample how to make this work! 
   Why are you using the aps style if you don't want aps-style output?
   That does not make sense. It seems that apa is much closer to what
   you want?
  
   Best wishes,
   Taco
   
   In apa-style there is author (year) appearance, and I just want
   [authorlastname,(year)] result with those hooks.
  
  The bib module has no support for just authorlastname (as opposed to
  author), if you want that then you have to edit the bbl file.
  
  For the rest of the citation formatting: it is easiest to
  define your own macro:
  
\def\mycite[#1]{[{\cite[author][#1]},({\cite[year][#1]})]}
  
  Best wishes,
  Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Howto make citations work in aps bibtex

2009-01-21 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Jan-Erik Hägglöf wrote:
 Seems that 
 
 \cite[year][ref] and \cite[author] doesn't work.
 
 only default \cite[authoryears][ref] and \cite[authoryear][ref] and just
 \cite[ref] seems to work. 
 
 so nothing wrong with the macro.
 
 Is there some settings that I have to fix?

I need a full example. Can you wrap up a small input tex file and the
bib file (and possibly environment you are using) into a package and
email that to me?

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] Using defaults and indexes

2009-01-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 21.01.2009 um 16:02 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:


And in the main file I have:

   \letterclosing{Hoogachtend}{Cecil Westerhof}

But I would like to have this as the default, so I could use:

   \letterclosing

Beside that I would like to have the possibility to use:

   \letterclosing{business}
or
   \letterclosing{family}

This would then use defined values.

When the first parameter is filled, but not with a recognized value,
then the second parameter should be filled. If not, the compilation of
the file should generate an error. Is this something that can be done?


\long\def\letterbody#1%
  {{\blank[line]\setupindenting[yes,medium]#1\par}}

\def\letterclosing
  {\dodoublegroupempty\doletterclosing}

\def\doletterclosing#1#2%
  {\ifsecondargument
 \dodoletterclosing{#1}{#2}%
   \else
 \doifelsenothing{#1}
   {\doletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}%
   {\processaction
  [#1]
  [  family={\dodoletterclosing{Informal closing,}{Cecil  
Westerhof}},
   business={\dodoletterclosing{Formal closing}{Cecil  
Westerhof}},

unknown={\errorisfataltrue\waitonfatalerror}]}%
   \fi}

\def\dodoletterclosing#1#2%
  {\blank[line]#1\blank[3*line]#2}

\setupindenting[yes,none]

\starttext

\letterbody{\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth\par}}
\letterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}

\page

\letterbody{\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth\par}}
\letterclosing{family}

\page

\letterbody{\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth\par}}
\letterclosing{business}

\page

\letterbody{\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth\par}}
\letterclosing{unknown}

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] gfs neohellenic typescript

2009-01-21 Thread Antoine Junod
Hello list,

Has anyone already written a typescript for the beautiful gfs
neohellenic (for mkii)?

A+
-AJ
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Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng

2009-01-21 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 20 janvier à 21:16:57 Arthur Reutenauer arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org 
écrit notamment:

|  Thanks a lot, it works. Will there be any side-effect on normal uses of 
context?

|   Definitely.  TEXFONTMAPS is the path to the various font mapping files
| for dvips, (x)dvipdfm(x) and pdfTeX.  I would strongly advise against
| setting that variable for normal use of the minimals.  What you could do
| without tweaking with TEXFONTMAPS, is to put ps2pk.map in some directory
| inside fonts/map in the minimals, together with the dvipng binary.  Best
| in texmf-local, for this is the location for local changes.  But then,
| you of course need to make sure that the necessary fonts are available
| in the minimals, etc.

|   Since you have TeX Live installed, your best bet is probably to use
| the minimals with the special TEXFONTMAPS setting only for ConTeXt +
| dvipng, and otherwise use the minimals only, or TeX Live only.


Well that doesn't look too good... I wish I could use dvipng whenever I
need to. 
A solution is of course to give up minimals and install the TeXlive
ConTeXt; do you think it is a bad move? (for use of mkiv)?
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Re: [NTG-context] Using defaults and indexes

2009-01-21 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2009/1/21 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com:
 And in the main file I have:

   \letterclosing{Hoogachtend}{Cecil Westerhof}

 But I would like to have this as the default, so I could use:

   \letterclosing

 Beside that I would like to have the possibility to use:

   \letterclosing{business}
 or
   \letterclosing{family}

 This would then use defined values.

 When the first parameter is filled, but not with a recognized value,
 then the second parameter should be filled. If not, the compilation of
 the file should generate an error. Is this something that can be done?

 \long\def\letterbody#1%
  {{\blank[line]\setupindenting[yes,medium]#1\par}}

 \def\letterclosing
  {\dodoublegroupempty\doletterclosing}

 \def\doletterclosing#1#2%
  {\ifsecondargument
 \dodoletterclosing{#1}{#2}%
   \else
 \doifelsenothing{#1}
   {\doletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}%
   {\processaction
  [#1]
  [  family={\dodoletterclosing{Informal closing,}{Cecil
 Westerhof}},
   business={\dodoletterclosing{Formal closing}{Cecil Westerhof}},
unknown={\errorisfataltrue\waitonfatalerror}]}%
   \fi}

 \def\dodoletterclosing#1#2%
  {\blank[line]#1\blank[3*line]#2}

 \setupindenting[yes,none]

 \starttext

 \letterbody{\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth\par}}
 \letterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}

 \page

 \letterbody{\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth\par}}
 \letterclosing{family}

 \page

 \letterbody{\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth\par}}
 \letterclosing{business}

 \page

 \letterbody{\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth\par}}
 \letterclosing{unknown}

 \stoptext

Goes a long way. With two parameters it works. When using 'unknown' or
'dummy', I get \wait= messages. When giving enter, the document is
still generated. But that is not a real problem. But when using:
\letterclosing
or
\letterclosing{}

I get the same wait= message and there is no letterclosing generated
(or an empty one).

Found the problem.
 \doifelsenothing{#1}
   {\doletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}%
should be:
 \doifelsenothing{#1}
   {\doletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}%

Now it seems to do what I want.

-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] Using defaults and indexes

2009-01-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 21.01.2009 um 18:11 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:


Goes a long way. With two parameters it works. When using 'unknown' or
'dummy', I get \wait= messages. When giving enter, the document is
still generated. But that is not a real problem. But when using:
   \letterclosing
or
   \letterclosing{}

I get the same wait= message and there is no letterclosing generated



When the first parameter is filled, but not with a recognized value,
then the second parameter should be filled. If not, the  
compilation of

the file should generate an error.


I did only what you wrote.




IF you don't want a error on the terminal replace

unknown={\errorisfataltrue\waitonfatalerror}]}%

with

unknown={\dodoletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}]}%

or something else.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng

2009-01-21 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:


Le 20 janvier à 21:16:57 Arthur Reutenauer arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org 
écrit notamment:

|  Thanks a lot, it works. Will there be any side-effect on normal uses of 
context?



|   Definitely.  TEXFONTMAPS is the path to the various font mapping files
| for dvips, (x)dvipdfm(x) and pdfTeX.  I would strongly advise against
| setting that variable for normal use of the minimals.  What you could do
| without tweaking with TEXFONTMAPS, is to put ps2pk.map in some directory
| inside fonts/map in the minimals, together with the dvipng binary.  Best
| in texmf-local, for this is the location for local changes.  But then,
| you of course need to make sure that the necessary fonts are available
| in the minimals, etc.



|   Since you have TeX Live installed, your best bet is probably to use
| the minimals with the special TEXFONTMAPS setting only for ConTeXt +
| dvipng, and otherwise use the minimals only, or TeX Live only.




Well that doesn't look too good... I wish I could use dvipng whenever I
need to.


You should also be able to use

TEXFONTMAPS=/location/ dvipng

so that the variable is set only for the dvipng run. Maybe setting this as 
an alias for dvipng will also work (I don't know how unix shell aliases 
interact with variables)


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Re: [NTG-context] Using defaults and indexes

2009-01-21 Thread Tad Ashlock

Cecil Westerhof wrote:
[snip]

Found the problem.
 \doifelsenothing{#1}
   {\doletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}%
should be:
 \doifelsenothing{#1}
   {\doletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}%

Now it seems to do what I want.


I don't see the difference.  Would you point it out for me?

Thanks,
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Re: [NTG-context] Using defaults and indexes

2009-01-21 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2009/1/21 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com:
 When the first parameter is filled, but not with a recognized value,
 then the second parameter should be filled. If not, the compilation of
 the file should generate an error.

 I did only what you wrote.

I was not clear enough again.
What I mend was that when there is not a recognized value, then the
output file should not be generated. When you give a return the file
is still generated. But that is only a minor. (Maybe what I want is
not possible.)

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Re: [NTG-context] Using defaults and indexes

2009-01-21 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2009/1/21 Tad Ashlock taas...@sandia.gov:
 Cecil Westerhof wrote:
 [snip]

 Found the problem.
 \doifelsenothing{#1}
   {\doletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}%
 should be:
 \doifelsenothing{#1}
   {\doletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}%

 Now it seems to do what I want.

 I don't see the difference.  Would you point it out for me?

You are right, bad copying/pasting from me. It should be:
 \doifelsenothing{#1}
   {\dodoletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}%

(dodo instead of do)

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[NTG-context] Litter in the Garden

2009-01-21 Thread John Devereux

There appears to be a spam/hacking attack in progress on
the context garden, e.g.:

http://texshow.contextgarden.net/command/special
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/MetaPost

 :(

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Re: [NTG-context] Using defaults and indexes

2009-01-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 21.01.2009 um 18:59 schrieb Tad Ashlock:


Cecil Westerhof wrote:
[snip]

Found the problem.
\doifelsenothing{#1}
  {\doletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}%
should be:
\doifelsenothing{#1}
  {\doletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}%
Now it seems to do what I want.


I don't see the difference.  Would you point it out for me?



It should be

 \doifelsenothing{#1}
   {\dodoletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}%

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Litter in the Garden

2009-01-21 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi,

 There appears to be a spam/hacking attack in progress on
 the context garden, e.g.:

 http://texshow.contextgarden.net/command/special

I'll fix these entries soon.

 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/MetaPost

Arthur and Mojca did this already. 

Thanks for the report

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Re: [NTG-context] Litter in the Garden

2009-01-21 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Hello, and thanks for the reports,

 http://texshow.contextgarden.net/command/special
 
 I'll fix these entries soon.

  I already fixed a few ...

  Note that in both texshow and the wiki, changes can be made by any
user.  It's straightforward to revert changes on the wiki (choose Undo
in the page history), on texshow you need to edit the text manually.

  Both attacks seem to be unrelated: the one on the wiki comes from IP
62.99.163.242, apparently in Austria, and was unique; texshow, on the
other hand, seems to have been abused repeatedly, from many different
origins around the world.

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Re: [NTG-context] Using defaults and indexes

2009-01-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 21.01.2009 um 19:28 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:


2009/1/21 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com:
When the first parameter is filled, but not with a recognized  
value,
then the second parameter should be filled. If not, the  
compilation of

the file should generate an error.


I did only what you wrote.


I was not clear enough again.
What I mend was that when there is not a recognized value, then the
output file should not be generated. When you give a return the file
is still generated. But that is only a minor. (Maybe what I want is
not possible.)



\long\def\letterbody#1%
  {\def\@@letterbody{{\blank[line]\setupindenting[yes,medium]#1\par}}}

\def\letterclosing
  {\dodoublegroupempty\doletterclosing}

\def\doletterclosing#1#2%
  {\ifsecondargument
 \dodoletterclosing{#1}{#2}%
   \else
 \doifelsenothing{#1}
   {\dodoletterclosing{Hoogachtend,}{Cecil Westerhof}}%
   {\processaction
  [#1]
  [  family={\dodoletterclosing{Informal closing,}{Cecil  
Westerhof}},
   business={\dodoletterclosing{Formal closing}{Cecil  
Westerhof}},
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\letterclosing.}}]}%

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  {\@@letterbody
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\letterbody{\dorecurse{2}{\input knuth\par}}
\letterclosing{unknown}

\stoptext

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Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] bug in math mode

2009-01-21 Thread Hans Hagen

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Should we request adding q-8r.enc to TeX Gyre then? I have to admit
that I have no idea when 8r is used, so someone else would need to
help with providing nice arguments to the Polish group (or Hans could
add that encoding to ConTeXt temporary).


Answering my own question ... if we request the file to be added to
TeX Gyre, we would end up:
- requesting the file
- it will take a few months before a new font version comes out
- and a few more months before the files proliferate
- a few monts later TeX Gyre math will come out
- after that we would request removal of that file again and nobody
will understand why we requested it in the first place

So maybe it's best if Hans adds q-8r.enc to ConTeXt? Perhaps making a
copy of 8r.enc and fixing (one|two|three)superior should do for now?

rpxpplr  TeXGyrePagella-Regular encq8r ReEncodeFont q-8r.enc qplr.pfb
rpxpplb  TeXGyrePagella-Boldencq8r ReEncodeFont q-8r.enc qplb.pfb
rpxpplri TeXGyrePagella-Italic  encq8r ReEncodeFont q-8r.enc qplri.pfb
rpxpplbi TeXGyrePagella-BoldItalic  encq8r ReEncodeFont q-8r.enc qplbi.pfb


i patiently wait till you tell me what to add/remove/patch


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[NTG-context] Choosing ConTeXt install method on Mac

2009-01-21 Thread David Rogers

Hello all

I'm going to do a clean re-install of my machine (Tiger on PPC) 
soon, and I'd like guidance on methods of installing ConTeXt. I 
assume that (a) TeX Live 2008 with its tlmgr utility, or (b) 
ConTeXt minimals, are the two realistic possibilities - is this correct?


What I'd like:

- A clear way of keeping ConTeXt mkiv usable and up to date with 
Hans's latest version


- An installation method that will continue to be maintained, 
and that is expected to be used by the majority of ordinary 
users of ConTeXt in the future



...So should I go for TeX Live, or the minimals, or something 
else I don't know about yet?


Grateful for any advice...
David
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Re: [NTG-context] Choosing ConTeXt install method on Mac

2009-01-21 Thread Otared Kavian

Hi David,

I did a clean install of the Minimals on a Mac and have written the  
steps I followed in a file

install-minimal-ok.tex
which can be found on

http://www.kavian.fr/tex/

I hope this will be helpful.

Best regards: OK

On 21 janv. 09, at 21:09, David Rogers wrote:


Hello all

I'm going to do a clean re-install of my machine (Tiger on PPC)  
soon, and I'd like guidance on methods of installing ConTeXt. I  
assume that (a) TeX Live 2008 with its tlmgr utility, or (b) ConTeXt  
minimals, are the two realistic possibilities - is this correct?


What I'd like:

- A clear way of keeping ConTeXt mkiv usable and up to date with  
Hans's latest version


- An installation method that will continue to be maintained, and  
that is expected to be used by the majority of ordinary users of  
ConTeXt in the future



...So should I go for TeX Live, or the minimals, or something else I  
don't know about yet?


Grateful for any advice...
David
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Re: [NTG-context] gfs neohellenic typescript

2009-01-21 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz


On Jan 21, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Antoine Junod wrote:


Hello list,

Has anyone already written a typescript for the beautiful gfs
neohellenic (for mkii)?

A+
-AJ


If you want to use this font with mkii, you'll need much more than  
just a typescript, at the least tfms + encodings + mapfiles. That's  
the reason why luatex so much more convenient. Also depends on how you  
want to use the font: which parts are you interested in, Greek, Latin, ?


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Re: [NTG-context] Choosing ConTeXt install method on Mac

2009-01-21 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:09 PM, David Rogers wrote:
 Hello all

 I'm going to do a clean re-install of my machine (Tiger on PPC) soon, and
 I'd like guidance on methods of installing ConTeXt. I assume that (a) TeX
 Live 2008 with its tlmgr utility, or (b) ConTeXt minimals, are the two
 realistic possibilities - is this correct?

 What I'd like:

 - A clear way of keeping ConTeXt mkiv usable and up to date with Hans's
 latest version

 - An installation method that will continue to be maintained, and that is
 expected to be used by the majority of ordinary users of ConTeXt in the
 future


 ...So should I go for TeX Live, or the minimals, or something else I don't
 know about yet?

I would suggest MacTeX 2008 + minimals.

I have both, with manually slightly updated ConTeXt in MacTeX 2008.
MacTeX is nice since it always works (includes LaTeX and dozens of
fonts and other packages that might be missing in minimals) and you
have a backup system in case that the latest alpha in minimals gets
broken.

I have this in ~/.bash_profile:
#. context/tex/setuptex context/tex

and I keep commenting/uncommenting it as needed (or just execute that
line in bash). The nice thing about minimals is that it doesn't
interfere with other TeX distributions, so you can have it installed
in parallel and it doesn't take too much space when compared with TeX
Live.

You need some additional hacks to get the minimals working in gui
applications. Oliver started writing an installer that could simplify
matters a bit, but got stuck with some external bugs at some point and
didn't publically release anything yet.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng

2009-01-21 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:

 I wish I could use dvipng whenever I need to.

So you are plannig to release/improve the emacs module and document it for Maps?

I'll take a look at the end of the week to see if we can make it work
with minimals.

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[NTG-context] Merging background

2009-01-21 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I have a template for a letter in which I use \setupbackgrounds. I
also have a tenplate for a watermark which also uses
\setupbackgrounds. The background from the last include is used. Is
there a way to merge the backgrounds?

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Re: [NTG-context] Merging background

2009-01-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 21.01.2009 um 23:39 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:


I have a template for a letter in which I use \setupbackgrounds. I
also have a tenplate for a watermark which also uses
\setupbackgrounds. The background from the last include is used. Is
there a way to merge the backgrounds?


\setupbackgrounds[page][background={template,watermark}]

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Merging background

2009-01-21 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2009/1/21 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com:
 I have a template for a letter in which I use \setupbackgrounds. I
 also have a tenplate for a watermark which also uses
 \setupbackgrounds. The background from the last include is used. Is
 there a way to merge the backgrounds?

 \setupbackgrounds[page][background={template,watermark}]

In my letter template I now do:
\setupbackgrounds[page][background={myAddr,WatermarkOverlay}]

That even works if the watermark template is not included. So, so far so good.

But I was wondering if it could be generalized. I was thinking about
the following. A variable backgroundList is defined and in every
template where layers are defined, those layers are added to
backgroundList. And then the following statement is used:
\setupbackgrounds[page][backgroun...@backgroundlist]

Is something like this possible?

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[NTG-context] Questions about tables

2009-01-21 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I have the following table:
\starttable[|cp(.12\textwidth)|cp(.12\textwidth)|cp(.18\textwidth)|cp(.18\textwidth)|cp(.12\textwidth)|cp(.12\textwidth)|cp(.12\textwidth)|]
\HL
\CL[darkyellow]\SR
\VL Verwerkt \VL Datum \VL Km-stand \VL Kilometers \VL c/l \VL Liter
\VL Prijs \VL \SR
\HL
\VL  \VL   \VL  \VL\VL \VL
\VL   \VL \SR
\HL
\stoptable

There are two problems with it:
- The horizontal line at the top disappears because of the color. Is
there a way to get it back?
- The table is on the right side of the paper. How can I get it
centered on the page?

Also is it possible to let the rows fill the complete page? I mean: if
there is room for 40 rows, that there are automatically 40 rows.

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Re: [NTG-context] for the brave

2009-01-21 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:


Hi,

I uploaded beta zip with a prelude to the new structure related code. I hope 
that I didn't forget files.


Some bugs:

\section Section Title \par

is no longer supported.

\setupsectionblock is not defined.

There is also some problem with the bib module. I will post a minimal 
example soon.


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Merging background

2009-01-21 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

 But I was wondering if it could be generalized. I was thinking about
 the following. A variable backgroundList is defined and in every
 template where layers are defined, those layers are added to
 backgroundList. And then the following statement is used:
 \setupbackgrounds[page][backgroun...@backgroundlist]
 
 Is something like this possible?

Perhaps you're looking for something like this:
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20060115.080349.8efe83be.en.html
That means: a template adds a background.

Cheers, Peter

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