Re: [NTG-context] colors without \definecolor
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 22:56, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 07.02.10 07:24, schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
while \color can only be used as
\color[rgb]{...}.
No. Both \color[rgb]{...} and {\color[rgb]...} are valid
D’oh. I looked in the source and missed this but I wonder
if this had been always the case because the manuals
{and the wiki) mention only \color[name]{...}.
\colored is a rather recent command.
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] colors without \definecolor
On 7-2-2010 22:56, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 07.02.10 07:24, schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
while \color can only be used as
\color[rgb]{...}.
No. Both \color[rgb]{...} and {\color[rgb]...} are valid
D’oh. I looked in the source and missed this but I wonder
if this had been always the case because the manuals
{and the wiki) mention only \color[name]{...}.
all commands that use \groupedcommand have that property
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Re: [NTG-context] colors without \definecolor
Am 08.02.10 09:19, schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
D’oh. I looked in the source and missed this but I wonder
if this had been always the case because the manuals
(and the wiki) mention only \color[name]{...}.
\colored is a rather recent command.
I meant the manuals and wiki mention \color[name]{...}
but not the form {\color[...]...}.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] colors without \definecolor
Am 08.02.10 09:40, schrieb Hans Hagen:
D’oh. I looked in the source and missed this but I wonder
if this had been always the case because the manuals
{and the wiki) mention only \color[name]{...}.
all commands that use \groupedcommand have that property
But used \color always \groupedcommand or was this added later and the
original definition was what is mentioned in the manual (\color[]{})?
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] some math symbols not working
Hi, I was trying some math symbols and stumbled over the following commands, that do not work in my context documents (the comments say what's not working exactly). The pasted document works at http://live.contextgarden.net/ . I'm using the latest context-minimals as provided on the website. Is this a MkIV issue? In addition: \ncong is not aligned with = and \cong Thanks in advance! Stefan \starttext \startformula % the following give Undefined control sequence: \gneq % \lneq works \lhd \rhd \unlhd \unrhd \Diamond % the following produce no symbol: \mapsto \hookleftarrow \longleftarrow \Longleftarrow \longrightarrow \Longrightarrow \longleftrightarrow \Longleftrightarrow \longmapsto \hookrightarrow \Join \blacksquare \bowtie \models \ncong % \cong produces the wrong symbol: it shows a dot on top of a plus, but there should be a ~ on top of = \cong \stopformula \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] blanks with glue in mkiv
Am 08.02.10 02:10, schrieb Aditya Mahajan: Hi, Blanks with glue do not work with MkIV. The old commands to define own blank values do not work in MkIV, the old MkII commands are mapped to the new ones but MkII and MkIV expect different settings for them. The old \defineblank command is replaced by \definevspacing which allows only keywords (penalty, category and order) with a value (e.g. \definevspacing[\v!samepage][penalty:1]), you can also define synonyms (\definevspacing[\s!default][\v!white]). The \defineblankmethod command is replaced by \definevspacingamount but both use a different syntax, while the old one expected the value in curly braces the new command wants them in brackets. This is also the command you can use because ot allows TeX skip values but it expects two, one for grid typesetting and another one for non grid text, e.g. \definevspacingmethod[test][3pt plus 1pt minus 1pt][3pt plus 1pt minus 1pt] Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] very strange error with \xypos and vim-typing
Hello,
I get the following error:
! Missing number, treated as zero.
to be read again
\dontleavehmode
argument \dontleavehmode
\normalspace
\secondoftwoarguments #1#2-#2
l.1 \the\dimexpr
63.6383pt-0pt\relax
\MPy #1-\ctxlua {jobpositions.MPy(#1)}
\dopresetpositionanchors ...expr \MPy \textanchor
+\MPh \textanchor
-\!!dime...
...
l.5 \s[]{bla;}
with this test-file:
\usemodule[vim]
\setupbodyfont[ss, 14pt]
\setuppapersize[S6][S6]
\definevimtyping[C][syntax=c]
\starttext
\startC
\stopC
\xypos{XXX}
\startC
bla;
bla;
bla;
\stopC
\startC
bla;
bla;
bla;
\stopC
\startC
bla;
bla;
bla;
bla;
\stopC
\startC
bla;
bla;
bla;
bla;
bla;
\stopC
\stoptext
t-vim.tex comes from
http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/042527.html
Strange, because whenever I remove a line of this test-file, the error
disappears.
Could someone help please?
TIA for any hints!
Cheers, Peter
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[NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Le 08 févr. 2010 à 12:25, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? I once tried to list the different points missing regarding the french language support and think of a way to integrate them as a module for ConTeXt, as frenchb [1] does for LaTeX. This is finally not trivial at all (at least for me). I don't know if this goes in the category « something missing » you are talking about... but for me, it is a reason why I stick to LaTeX. [1] http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/frenchb/index.html Cheers, -- Sébastien Mengin Édition et logiciels libres Mise en page avec LaTeX http://edilibre.net ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Sebastien Mengin wrote: I once tried to list the different points missing regarding the french language support and think of a way to integrate them as a module for ConTeXt, as frenchb [1] does for LaTeX. This is finally not trivial at all (at least for me). I don't know if this goes in the category « something missing » you are talking about... but for me, it is a reason why I stick to LaTeX. This could be a starting point: http://modules.contextgarden.net/t-french What do you need? Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Am 08.02.2010 um 12:43 schrieb Sebastien Mengin: Le 08 févr. 2010 à 12:25, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? I once tried to list the different points missing regarding the french language support and think of a way to integrate them as a module for ConTeXt, as frenchb [1] does for LaTeX. This is finally not trivial at all (at least for me). I don't know if this goes in the category « something missing » you are talking about... but for me, it is a reason why I stick to LaTeX. [1] http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/frenchb/index.html Cheers, -- Sébastien Mengin Hi, there is a nice LaTeX package called floatrow. Most of the things what it does you can do with ConTeXt much more easily expect (i think) one thing: placing more than one picture in a given width with automatic rescaling of the images so all images in one row have the same height. This feature is really handy for me. Maybe there is something in ConTeXt which does the same and i´m missing something? best regards Bernhard ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? The lst-listing package from LaTeX is very good. I would be nice, to get at least support for pretty printing the language C. Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] xpdf segmentation fault
Hello,
I don't know, if this is a ConTeXt problem (wrong PDF) or an xpdf problem.
Here the test-file, whose pdf-result xpdf cannot read:
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\placebookmarks[chapter]
\starttext
\chapter{bla}
\stoptext
Should I report this to the xpdf-authors?
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Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Am 08.02.10 12:43, schrieb Sebastien Mengin: I once tried to list the different points missing regarding the french language support and think of a way to integrate them as a module for ConTeXt, as frenchb [1] does for LaTeX. This is finally not trivial at all (at least for me). Do you have a english version of the manual or can you make a summary what the package provides (it's hard to guess from the commands)? Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] xpdf segmentation fault
That example works fine here (both with mkii and mkiv, running ConTeXt
ver: 2009.11.24 10:13 MKIV fmt: 2010.2.8 int: english/english) and
xpdf 3.02-1.4ubuntu2.
Can you attach the pdf you get? I attach the one I get from mkiv.
Mikael
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr wrote:
Hello,
I don't know, if this is a ConTeXt problem (wrong PDF) or an xpdf problem.
Here the test-file, whose pdf-result xpdf cannot read:
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\placebookmarks[chapter]
\starttext
\chapter{bla}
\stoptext
Should I report this to the xpdf-authors?
Cheers, Peter
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Re: [NTG-context] colors without \definecolor
On 8-2-2010 9:55, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 08.02.10 09:40, schrieb Hans Hagen:
D’oh. I looked in the source and missed this but I wonder
if this had been always the case because the manuals
{and the wiki) mention only \color[name]{...}.
all commands that use \groupedcommand have that property
But used \color always \groupedcommand or was this added later and the
original definition was what is mentioned in the manual (\color[]{})?
it's a very old command so it might not have used groupedcommand in the past
also, at the time of manual writing no groupedcommand like things were
there anyway
but .. there's another reason ...
\color{...} does not grab an argument but does some aftergroup trickery
so it might not work in all cases
also in mkii we inject literals and we could end up with dangling revert
color cases being nodes that could interfere somehow
mkiv is more robust
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[NTG-context] level setting has no effect in TOC
Hello,
it seems like the level parameter has no effect in mkiv.
It works as expected in mkii.
Is it a bug or there is different way how to do that in mkiv?
Ragards
Zdenek
example:
\starttext
\setupcombinedlist[content][level=1,alternative=c]
\completecontent
\chapter{A}
\section{a}
\section{b}
\subsection{I}
\subsection{II}
\chapter{B}
\section{a}
\section{b}
\subsection{I}
\subsection{II}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Le 08 févr. 2010 à 01:14, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Am 08.02.10 12:43, schrieb Sebastien Mengin: I once tried to list the different points missing regarding the french language support and think of a way to integrate them as a module for ConTeXt, as frenchb [1] does for LaTeX. This is finally not trivial at all (at least for me). Do you have a english version of the manual or can you make a summary what the package provides (it's hard to guess from the commands)? Yes, here's the manual (PDF) produced from the DTX file from CTAN. http://edilibre.net/depot/frenchb.pdf Thanks for your interest, -- Sébastien Mengin Édition et logiciels libres Mise en page avec LaTeX http://edilibre.net ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] xpdf segmentation fault
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Mikael Persson wrote: That example works fine here (both with mkii and mkiv, running ConTeXt ver: 2009.11.24 10:13 MKIV fmt: 2010.2.8 int: english/english) and xpdf 3.02-1.4ubuntu2. Hello Mikael, It seems, that it was an issue with the poppler library. I used packages from http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2 Now after updating xpdf and poppler from http://download.opensuse.org/factory/ it works again. Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] xpdf segmentation fault
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr wrote:
Hello,
I don't know, if this is a ConTeXt problem (wrong PDF) or an xpdf problem.
Here the test-file, whose pdf-result xpdf cannot read:
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\placebookmarks[chapter]
\starttext
\chapter{bla}
\stoptext
Should I report this to the xpdf-authors?
no problem here with mkii mkiv xpdf version 3.02
Does xpdf -cmd filename.pdf help you ?
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Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On Monday 08 February 2010 12:25:58 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang Hello, I have been using the (old) chart module to draw not only flow charts but also to draw functional diagrams for gas handling and hydrolics systems. This module could be significantly developped, in particular though abstraction of node placement, color, etc. One could go further, drawing tree diagrams. Here, I am thinking about some of the possibilities of pgf/TiKz. Something probably already exists in Metapost, but it would be nice to have such tools native in ConTeXt. pgf/TiKz is a nice package, and I like its support for ConTeXt. However, a simpler, cleaner interface and syntax can be achieved natively in ConTeXt and Metapost... Going a bit further, I suppose that the same logic could be applied to drawing schematic diagrams for electronics. And why not abstract this further? One could then flexibly logically place (and connect) containers of any sort. I use collectors and columnsetspan to put together posters (A0). This could be made easier. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Adding Items to Bibliography
Hi all, yesterday I tried to use some BibTeX bibliography that I made earlier for use with biblatex but I very soon ended up converting a garbled .bbl to proper \[start|stop]publication format. So my first question is, whether this, without BibTeX, is the canonical way to typeset bibliographies in ConTeXt? The wiki is quite unclear about this and bibmod-doc deals with BibTeX, too. Or is everyone working in secret with the MlBibTeX final release and those 8-Bit phenomena from the dark past are already solved? The second question: where would I begin if I wanted to setup (a) an author-title format for \cite[] (I found no \bibgetvarX function to query the publication title), and (b) substitution of consecutive identical authornames with dashes (or idem, if that matters) in the publications list. Thanks in advance for any clarification on this matter, bibliography support is essential for me. Philipp -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments pgpePDq3GN0ON.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] svg - png conversion
Hello, How can I convert svg to png on the fly? I've created a file test.rlx: ?xml version='1.0 standalone='yes'? rl:manipulators rl:manipulator name='png' suffix='svg' rl:oldrl:value name='path'//rl:value name='file' method='nosuffix'/.png/rl:old rl:newrl:value name='path'//rl:value name='prefix'/rl:value name='file' method='nosuffix'/.png/rl:new rl:step inkscape -d 600 -e rl:value name='new'/ rl:value name='old'/ /rl:step /rl:manipulator /rl:manipulators and a file test.tex: \setupexternalfigures[conversion=png] \starttext \externalfigure[./myfile.svg] \stoptext But when running context on the file, it tries to convert the svg to pdf. What do I need to do? TIA for any hint! Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-08 12:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Most definately: all the details of Philipp Lehman's BibLaTeX package which is one of the greatest things LaTeX has to offer: multi-part bibliographies, lots of different citation rules, manifold idem/ibidem/ op. cit. c handling, authoring new styles -- all solved in one single stroke and neatly documented. That'd be nice to have … Philipp pgpnFMmVu93HL.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Am 08.02.2010 um 14:49 schrieb Philipp Gesang: Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-08 12:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Most definately: all the details of Philipp Lehman's BibLaTeX package which is one of the greatest things LaTeX has to offer: multi-part bibliographies, lots of different citation rules, manifold idem/ibidem/ op. cit. c handling, authoring new styles -- all solved in one single stroke and neatly documented. yes, apart from floatrow i mentioned earlier biblatex features are superior. AFAIKS the bibliography module will be rewritten and maybe will have similar features? nevertheless for me ConTeXt is way ahead of LaTeX! best regards Bernhard ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Philipp Gesang wrote: Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-08 12:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Most definately: all the details of Philipp Lehman's BibLaTeX package which is one of the greatest things LaTeX has to offer: multi-part bibliographies, lots of different citation rules, manifold idem/ibidem/ op. cit. c handling, authoring new styles -- all solved in one single stroke and neatly documented. That'd be nice to have … Well, the context bib module predates biblatex by a few years, and I never got around doing a rewrite after biblatex had added new stuff the bib module didn't have ... ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On 8-2-2010 14:49, Philipp Gesang wrote: Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-0812:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Most definately: all the details of Philipp Lehman's BibLaTeX package which is one of the greatest things LaTeX has to offer: multi-part bibliographies, lots of different citation rules, manifold idem/ibidem/ op. cit.c handling, authoring new styles -- all solved in one single stroke and neatly documented. That'd be nice to have … fyi: the whole bin stuff will be redone in mkiv. some of it is already done. 1 - mkii compatible support (built in, no module) 2 - loading of bib databases in memory and converte them in an xml tree 3 - access to entries in arbitrary ways using path expressions 4 - rewrite of rendering variants using the built in xml handler 1 is more or less done, 2 also, 3 is possible but we might want more and for 4 taco and i will cook up an interface Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] floatrow
Hi Bernhard, Did you ever try \startcombination? I feel like it could solve your problem, but not sure... there is a nice LaTeX package called floatrow. Most of the things what it does you can do with ConTeXt much more easily expect (i think) one thing: placing more than one picture in a given width with automatic rescaling of the images so all images in one row have the same height. This feature is really handy for me. Maybe there is something in ConTeXt which does the same and i´m missing something? Regards, Vyatcheslav ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Philipp Gesang pges...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de writes: Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-08 12:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Most definately: all the details of Philipp Lehman's BibLaTeX package which is one of the greatest things LaTeX has to offer: multi-part bibliographies, lots of different citation rules, manifold idem/ibidem/ op. cit. c handling, authoring new styles -- all solved in one single stroke and neatly documented. That'd be nice to have … I second this. Right now, biblatex is the killer feature that I'm at least partially stuck with LaTeX. However, I wonder if it would be hard to do a port of biblatex to context. I've not looked into the code yet, but I doubt that there is much LaTeX specific code... Best regards, olli ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Am 08.02.10 14:41, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: And why not abstract this further? One could then flexibly logically place (and connect) containers of any sort. I use collectors and columnsetspan to put together posters (A0). This could be made easier. The flowfram [1] package for LaTeX looks like a good example how this can be done and with the current stream and layer mechanism it should be doable to provide something similar in ConTeXt. [1] http://ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/flowfram.html Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] floatrow
Am 08.02.2010 um 17:47 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky: Hi Bernhard, Did you ever try \startcombination? I feel like it could solve your problem, but not sure... there is a nice LaTeX package called floatrow. Most of the things what it does you can do with ConTeXt much more easily expect (i think) one thing: placing more than one picture in a given width with automatic rescaling of the images so all images in one row have the same height. This feature is really handy for me. Maybe there is something in ConTeXt which does the same and i´m missing something? Regards, Vyatcheslav Hi, yes i´m aware of \startcombination and also \startfloatcombination but i think this has not that automatic feature which i described (the height of the pictures will be adjusted automatically so all pictures in one row have the same height - the outcome of the height is so not really predictable) best regards Bernhard ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
I'd just like to chime in that a new bibliography system would be first
suggestion for ConTeXt. I've only used BibTeX a few times, and never
BibLaTeX (because I'd already switched to ConTeXT), but it's inflexibility
makes it unworkable.
Ideally ConTeXt could provide its general sensible-ness (and Lua power) to
do for bibliographies what it has already done for TeX. CSL support and
something similar to string.format('%s. (%s). %s.', author, year, title) or
something just as easy for defining a new output style would be the two
features most desired. If MLA were finally implemented (or implementable)
for \cite{} in TeX, I would be a very happy masters student indeed ;)
(BibLaTeX's MLA did not work for me in LyX, which is about as far as I'm
going to go into LaTeX).
Until then I'll just use the MLA setup environment from the ConTeXt wiki and
input my refs by hand.
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 08.02.10 14:41, schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
And why not abstract this further? One could then flexibly
logically place (and connect) containers of any sort.
I use collectors and columnsetspan to put together posters (A0).
This could be made easier.
The flowfram [1] package for LaTeX looks like a good example how this can
be done and with the current stream and layer mechanism it should be doable
to provide something similar in ConTeXt.
[1] http://ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/flowfram.html
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
* Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com [2010-02-08 12:25]: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Five hundred pages of organized, detailed, up-to-date (well, somewhat up-to-date) documentation, written by the small group of experts who are so helpful on this list. If just one of you was unable to continue your excellent work, FAR too much of the world knowledge of ConTeXt would simply be gone, and that's not a good situation. Compared to this, new features can wait - but here's my feature: ConTeXt itself has beautiful support for side-by-side translations. It makes me happy every time I look at the results. But... it works only on separate pages. Making it work on columns as well would make my life easier. (May be impossible, but you asked...) |Original Language|First Translation|Second Translation| |Bla bla bla ... |Blu blu blu ... |Ble ble ble ... | -- Thanks David ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] floatrow
On 8-2-2010 18:01, Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote:
Am 08.02.2010 um 17:47 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:
Hi Bernhard,
Did you ever try \startcombination? I feel like it could solve your problem,
but not sure...
there is a nice LaTeX package called floatrow. Most of the things what it does
you can do with ConTeXt much more easily expect (i think) one thing: placing
more than one picture in a given width with automatic rescaling of the images
so all images in one row have the same height. This feature is really handy for
me. Maybe there is something in ConTeXt which does the same and i´m missing
something?
Regards,
Vyatcheslav
Hi,
yes i´m aware of \startcombination and also \startfloatcombination but i think
this has not that automatic feature which i described (the height of the
pictures will be adjusted automatically so all pictures in one row have the
same height - the outcome of the height is so not really predictable)
normally one will have categories of graphics, so you can do things like
(one of the oldest mechanisms)
\starttext
\defineexternalfigure[whatever][height=3cm]
\startcombination
{\externalfigure[cow.pdf] [whatever]} {a}
{\externalfigure[mill.png][whatever]} {b}
\stopcombination
\stoptext
it's trivial to add a few more inheritance features but on the other
hand one quickly ends up in fuzzy behaviour
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On 8-2-2010 18:29, David Rogers wrote: |Original Language|First Translation|Second Translation| |Bla bla bla ... |Blu blu blu ... |Ble ble ble ... | it's one of the things on the agenda for mkiv but it has to wait for a while till we have opened up the page builder a bit more in luatex - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] very strange error with \xypos and vim-typing
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Peter Münster wrote:
Strange, because whenever I remove a line of this test-file, the error
disappears.
Could someone help please?
Hello,
One further hint, the tuc-file has one more line, when there is no error:
@@ -13,6 +13,7 @@
jobvariables = jobvariables or { }
jobvariables.collected = jobvariables.collected or { }
jobvariables.collected={
+ randomseed=0.39571996843243,
totalnofparbackgrounds=0,
}
jobpasses = jobpasses or { }
I would be very glad about a solution, because I don't know any
workaround...
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Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On 2010-02-08 16:12:09, Hans Hagen wrote: fyi: the whole bin stuff will be redone in mkiv. some of it is already done. 1 - mkii compatible support (built in, no module) 2 - loading of bib databases in memory and converte them in an xml tree 3 - access to entries in arbitrary ways using path expressions 4 - rewrite of rendering variants using the built in xml handler 1 is more or less done, 2 also, 3 is possible but we might want more and for 4 taco and i will cook up an interface Great news, indeed! Is some of this already usable / accessable by way of functions in minimals? I can't wait to have a glance at those features, especially no. 3. Regards, Philipp pgpaZoHzf4sSB.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Am 08.02.10 22:14, schrieb Philipp Gesang: On 2010-02-0816:12:09, Hans Hagen wrote: fyi: the whole bin stuff will be redone in mkiv. some of it is already done. 1 - mkii compatible support (built in, no module) 2 - loading of bib databases in memory and converte them in an xml tree 3 - access to entries in arbitrary ways using path expressions 4 - rewrite of rendering variants using the built in xml handler 1 is more or less done, 2 also, 3 is possible but we might want more and for 4 taco and i will cook up an interface Great news, indeed! Is some of this already usable / accessable by way of functions in minimals? I can't wait to have a glance at those features, especially no. 3. http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100126.184359.e6567256.en.html Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] level setting has no effect in TOC
On 8-2-2010 13:50, zs wrote:
Hello,
it seems like the level parameter has no effect in mkiv.
It works as expected in mkii.
Is it a bug or there is different way how to do that in mkiv?
Ragards
Zdenek
example:
\starttext
\setupcombinedlist[content][level=1,alternative=c]
\completecontent
\placelist[chapter][,alternative=c]
\chapter{A}
\section{a}
\section{b}
\subsection{I}
\subsection{II}
\chapter{B}
\section{a}
\section{b}
\subsection{I}
\subsection{II}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] floatrow
On 8-2-2010 22:16, Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote:
Am 08.02.2010 um 19:42 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 8-2-2010 18:52, Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote:
thanks for the hint with \defineexternalfigure… - indeed useful.
The „automatic“ feature of floatrow is nice but not so important that i will
ever switch back to LaTeX.
it's no big deal to make some scaler but the problem is what to take as
reference, specify it etc etc. If it's not the first image, then we need
multiple passes. too much automatism with graphics is a bit tricky
it would be nice to have something like:
\startfloatcombination[3*2, width=.8\textwidth]
\externalfigure….
\externalfigure….
\externalfigure….
\externalfigure….
\externalfigure….
\externalfigure….
\stopfloatcombination
and all graphics fit in the given width with same height in one row. I found
this feature in floatrow useful because i had a lot of graphics in different
widths and heights so it was easy to „stitch“ them together. On the programming
side i have no idea how complicated something would be (i´m only a happy
context user). Maybe you consider something to implement in future?
it's not that complex to make something like that (but there's a bit
more to it, like distances and so we always end up with a bit more code)
also, this does not really fit into the user interface ... (mixed
keywords and key/values)
as it should be a generic feature i.e. not only for images, we more end
up with something
\definecombination
[whatever]
[width=.8\textwidth,
height=equal,
distance=1em]
\startcombination[whatever][3*2]
{\externalfigure...} {}
{\externalfigure...} {}
{\externalfigure...} {}
...
\startcombination
where equal will eventually scale up the heights of the content
looking at combinations, i have to mkiv-ize that code anyway so at that
time i could add that feature (i have to take a look at some project
styles as we often do combination trickery)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On 2010-02-08 22:26:06, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Great news, indeed! Is some of this already usable / accessable by way
of functions in minimals? I can't wait to have a glance at those
features, especially no. 3.
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100126.184359.e6567256.en.html
Ahh, thanks for the example. But when running context on it I get the
following:
--
! Undefined control sequence.
\@@su:xml:bibtex:sorter #1-\xmlresetsorter
{bibtex}\xmlfilter {#1}{e/comman...
l.71 ...etup{bibtex:somebibtex}{xml:bibtex:sorter}
--
which is odd because \xmlresetsorter _is_ defined in lxml-sor.mkiv.
Furthermore when I add
--
\unprotect
\def\xmlresetsorter #1{\ctxlua{lxml.sorters.reset(#1)}}
\protect
--
to the preamble, I get a lua error (attempt to index field 'sorters' (a
nil value)).
But thank you anyways, I now have an impression about how things may
look like in the future and I promise to read
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/XML#XML.2FConTeXt_in_general next weekend.
Regards,
Philipp
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Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Am 08.02.10 23:08, schrieb Philipp Gesang: But thank you anyways, I now have an impression about how things may look like in the future and I promise to read http://wiki.contextgarden.net/XML#XML.2FConTeXt_in_general next weekend. For MkIV read this: http://pragma-ade.com/show-man-43.htm Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] svg - png conversion
On 8-2-2010 14:40, Peter Münster wrote: Hello, \setupexternalfigures[conversion=png] \starttext \externalfigure[./myfile.svg] \stoptext i need to think a bit about it we do have a automatic svg - pdf converter so what we need is some way to force a specific kind of conversion (i need to add a bit os code on top of existing code then) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On 8-2-2010 23:08, Philipp Gesang wrote: On 2010-02-0822:26:06, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Great news, indeed! Is some of this already usable / accessable by way of functions in minimals? I can't wait to have a glance at those features, especially no. 3. http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100126.184359.e6567256.en.html Ahh, thanks for the example. But when running context on it I get the following: -- ! Undefined control sequence. \@@su:xml:bibtex:sorter #1-\xmlresetsorter maye your version is too old - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Philipp Gesang pges...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de wrote: On 2010-02-08 16:12:09, Hans Hagen wrote: fyi: the whole bin stuff will be redone in mkiv. some of it is already done. 1 - mkii compatible support (built in, no module) 2 - loading of bib databases in memory and converte them in an xml tree 3 - access to entries in arbitrary ways using path expressions 4 - rewrite of rendering variants using the built in xml handler 1 is more or less done, 2 also, 3 is possible but we might want more and for 4 taco and i will cook up an interface Whoops, somehow missed this bombshell while writing my last email. Excellent news! ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On 2010-02-08 23:20:17, Hans Hagen wrote: On 8-2-2010 23:08, Philipp Gesang wrote: On 2010-02-0822:26:06, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Great news, indeed! Is some of this already usable / accessable by way of functions in minimals? I can't wait to have a glance at those features, especially no. 3. http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100126.184359.e6567256.en.html Ahh, thanks for the example. But when running context on it I get the following: -- ! Undefined control sequence. \@@su:xml:bibtex:sorter #1-\xmlresetsorter maye your version is too old That was it, sorry, I reinstalled minimals and LuaTeX recently and forgot to update ConTeXt. Now the file is processed and I get a pdf file containing the words sortkeys: n id entry and an hrule beneath that. As I'm not (yet) familiar with the control sequences used in the file as well as parts of its syntax, I can only guess that there's a table missing from \startxmlsetups bibtex:one \starttabulate etc.. Good night, Philipp pgp7TBnaFWkqx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Nice thread. Thanks for starting this Wolfgang. First of all, Context is great and I love it. I think I miss the geometry package of the latex. It makes setting margins very easy. I think setting margins (left, right, top and bottom) could be easier in Context. I am glad that tikz has started working well with context. That is a big relief. I hope (and this perhaps has nothing to do with the brilliant Context development team) is that journals start accepting Context files. While I use context for my personal and class notes, for articles I am still forced to go to latex because journals do not accept context files. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Philipp Gesang pges...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de wrote: On 2010-02-08 23:20:17, Hans Hagen wrote: On 8-2-2010 23:08, Philipp Gesang wrote: On 2010-02-0822:26:06, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Great news, indeed! Is some of this already usable / accessable by way of functions in minimals? I can't wait to have a glance at those features, especially no. 3. http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100126.184359.e6567256.en.html Ahh, thanks for the example. But when running context on it I get the following: -- ! Undefined control sequence. \@@su:xml:bibtex:sorter #1-\xmlresetsorter maye your version is too old That was it, sorry, I reinstalled minimals and LuaTeX recently and forgot to update ConTeXt. Now the file is processed and I get a pdf file containing the words sortkeys: n id entry and an hrule beneath that. As I'm not (yet) familiar with the control sequences used in the file as well as parts of its syntax, I can only guess that there's a table missing from \startxmlsetups bibtex:one \starttabulate etc.. Good night, Philipp ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On 8 févr. 2010, at 12:25, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang Hi Wolfgang and all ConTeXters, Thanks for asking us the question. I haven't really missed any particular feature, since each time I wanted to do something less elementary, I found out that the feature is actually waiting there, and I have just to be a little bit patient and look in the manuals or on th wiki. And if I am not patient (that is most of the time…) some wizards on the list are so patient and so wise that they know how to do things. Now, that said, I do all my presentations with ConTeXt, and there is one thing which should be added for more ease of use: a stepwise procedure which can do better than the RawSteps module I use (see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/RawSteps), and which would also work with the simpleslides modules set up by Thomas A. Schmitz and Aditya Mahajan. Another problem one may encounter is that, as far as I know, the Mathematics journals do not accept yet a paper written in ConTeXt. So at some point, when submitting the source file of the paper, one has to « translate » ConTeXt commands into plain-TeX or LaTeX. I wish I had a script, for instance go-back-2-latex.lua (or any other language) which would take as input the file my-beautiful-article.tex written in ConTeXt and turn it to my-ugly-article.in-latex.tex. Actually I do this manually and, despite being time consuming, I prefer to write in ConTeXt and to translate my paper into LaTeX at the very last step. Best wishes: OK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
