Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure
Alan BRASLAU wrote: Furthermore, \setupfloats [indentnext=yes] is somewhat strange. I suppose that it might make sense not to indent a new paragraph following a section title, etc. but does it really make sense not to indent a NEW paragraph following a break such as a displayed figure, table, or formula, etc.? Definitely so: almost all of the (non-science) layout specifications I have seen in my professional work request exactly this behavior. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] automatic lettrine
I like the \usemodule [lettrine] package (a quick and dirty conversion of the LaTeX package of the same name). It would be nice to include this functionality (perhaps cleaned-up) in the ConTeXt base macros. Then, it would also be nice to be able to activate an automatic mechanism to begin a first paragraph at some level (\chapter, \section, ... as defined, by default none) with a lettrine without having to explicitly use: \lettrine{O}{nce} upon a time... Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Am 08.02.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? I miss a command to force a manual line break at any point in a \hyphenatedurl string. Like, e.g. * in \hyphenatedurl{http://www.a_ridiculous_very_long_alpanum*eric_sequence} Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? I miss a command to force a manual line break at any point in a \hyphenatedurl string. Like, e.g. * in \hyphenatedurl{http://www.a_ridiculous_very_long_alpanum*eric_sequence} +1 for this idea. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On 11-2-2010 9:43, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? I miss a command to force a manual line break at any point in a \hyphenatedurl string. Like, e.g. * in \hyphenatedurl{http://www.a_ridiculous_very_long_alpanum*eric_sequence} is * never part of a url then? - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
is * never part of a url then? - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - According to RFC 1738 from IETF, * is used only as a wildcard, e.g. to denote all newsgroups from specific category. It is never used for specifiying a single URL. Regards, -- Vedran Miletić ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Hello Wolfgang, It would be nice, to specify a background-color for some text, but without that the background of one line touches the background of the line below. Illustration of what I'm looking for: \setupinterlinespace[line=1cm] % just to make the example more obvious \definetextbackground[myBG][background=color, backgroundcolor=green, % backgroundheight=1ex, % does not work % height=1ex, % does not work frame=off] \starttext bla bla \startmyBG \dorecurse{30}{bla }\stopmyBG bla bla \stoptext Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Hello, What about collecting these feature requests somewhere at a central point, for example at http://tracker.luatex.org/ and keeping their status updated. It would also be nice, to have milestones attached to each request, so that users know how long to wait. Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Vedran Miletić wrote: is * never part of a url then? According to RFC 1738 from IETF, * is used only as a wildcard, e.g. to denote all newsgroups from specific category. It is never used for specifiying a single URL. Still, * can appear unencoded in any url, in either pathinfo or in GET arguments, so * is not always the best thing to use. It is better have it configurable (but default to *) Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Le 10 févr. 2010 à 03:04, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Am 10.02.10 10:07, schrieb Sebastien Mengin: 1. French quotation marks \quotation{...} There I should probably dive in the doc cause I'd be surprised nothing is set up for the following issue, but, in French, if we have a quotation in a quotation, the second pair of quotation marks shoud appear as `` and ''. \quotation{Citation \quotation{exemple}} If I do \quotation{Citation ``exemple''} the result is incorrect. \quotation{Citation \quote{exemple}} Right, thanks. I'd like to be able to do « Citation ``citation'' », though. (Put clearly, I'm not sure I like the \quotaion{} mecanism.) At the moment, the : `` actually prints literally, instead of printing an english left double-quote. -- Sébastien Mengin Édition et logiciels libres Mise en page avec LaTeX http://edilibre.net ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Am 11.02.2010 um 10:37 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 11-2-2010 9:43, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 12:25 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? I miss a command to force a manual line break at any point in a \hyphenatedurl string. Like, e.g. * in \hyphenatedurl{http://www.a_ridiculous_very_long_alpanum*eric_sequence} is * never part of a url then? This was just an example. Maybe | is a better glyph. Is this the only problem to find a character that is not used as part of a valid URL? Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On Thursday 11 February 2010 11:10:19 Sebastien Mengin wrote: Le 10 févr. 2010 à 03:04, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Am 10.02.10 10:07, schrieb Sebastien Mengin: 1. French quotation marks \quotation{...} There I should probably dive in the doc cause I'd be surprised nothing is set up for the following issue, but, in French, if we have a quotation in a quotation, the second pair of quotation marks shoud appear as `` and ''. \quotation{Citation \quotation{exemple}} If I do \quotation{Citation ``exemple''} the result is incorrect. \quotation{Citation \quote{exemple}} Right, thanks. I'd like to be able to do « Citation ``citation'' », though. (Put clearly, I'm not sure I like the \quotaion{} mecanism.) At the moment, the : `` actually prints literally, instead of printing an english left double-quote. In this case, use: « Citation “citation” » Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Am 11.02.2010 um 11:08 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Vedran Miletić wrote: is * never part of a url then? According to RFC 1738 from IETF, * is used only as a wildcard, e.g. to denote all newsgroups from specific category. It is never used for specifiying a single URL. Still, * can appear unencoded in any url, in either pathinfo or in GET arguments, so * is not always the best thing to use. It is better have it configurable (but default to *) Yes. To have it configurable sounds great ;o) Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Le 11 févr. 2010 à 11:12, Steffen Wolfrum a écrit: I miss a command to force a manual line break at any point in a \hyphenatedurl string. Like, e.g. * in \hyphenatedurl{http://www.a_ridiculous_very_long_alpanum*eric_sequence} +1 also. is * never part of a url then? This was just an example. Maybe | is a better glyph. What about ¶ ? -- Sébastien Mengin Édition et logiciels libres Mise en page avec LaTeX http://edilibre.net ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [translation] Context, an excursion
Hi, More than a year ago, I started to participate to the translation project of the context for the beginers guide: ConTeXt, an excursion. For some reasons, I had to stop this. Now, I'd like to try again. Is this doc still accurate? I mean, does it worth to work on its translation or should I wait for another version? Thanks, -- Sébastien Mengin Édition et logiciels libres Mise en page avec LaTeX http://edilibre.net ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure
On Thursday 11 February 2010 08:57:21 Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Thursday 11 February 2010 05:07:15 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 11.02.10 02:14, schrieb Tom: When I place a figure at the bottom of a page, everything is fine if it splits a paragraph, but if it falls between paragraphs, indentation of at least one of the paragraphs, generally the one coming after the figure, is lost. It appears that this has been a problem for some people over the years. \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] An opposite feature is also strange - minimal example: \setupindenting [medium,yes] \starttext A paragraph, including an itemized list: \startitemize [joinedup,packed] \item first \item second \stopitemize The following text is indented. It is not a new paragraph. \stoptext Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Vedran Miletić wrote: According to RFC 1738 from IETF, * is used only as a wildcard, e.g. to denote all newsgroups from specific category. It is never used for specifiying a single URL. So, http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/file*with*stars; is not allowed??? Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure
On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: An opposite feature is also strange - minimal example: \setupindenting [medium,yes] \starttext A paragraph, including an itemized list: \startitemize [joinedup,packed] \item first \item second \stopitemize The following text is indented. It is not a new paragraph. \stoptext \setupitemize[indentnext=auto] % should be default value everywhere IMHO Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fwd: Re: [off-list] Rotated footnotes?
Original Message Subject: Re: [off-list] Rotated footnotes? Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:30:00 +0100 From: Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com To: Steffen Wolfrum cont...@post.werksatz.com, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl Taco Hoekwater wrote: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 11.02.2010 um 10:07 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Hi Taco, there really is no clean way to get a rotated figure/label/footnote page? Not that I know of, no. Unless you would consider actually rotating the entire page 90 degrees a solution? No, the actual page (width, height, position of pagenumber/header) sould be the same. It should be as shown in my faked example ... only in a right way. Perhaps Hans can come up with a method for the \localfootnotes to use (and update) the global footnote number. The rest of my hack is a ugly, but functional. Hans? new beta ... some fixes to footnotes (automigrate works with local now) ... also lastcolumn fix (might break something else, not sure about that yet) \automigrateinserts \starttext \setupnotes[continue=yes] \input tufte \input tufte \footnote{oeps} \startstandardmakeup \setuptabulate[before=,after=] \rotate [rotation=90] \bgroup \vbox to \textwidth \bgroup \hsize\textheight \startlocalnotes[footnote] \placefigure [fixed] {} { \starttabulate \NC test \footnote{\input tufte } \NC \input tufte \NC \NR \NC test \NC \input tufte \NC \NR \stoptabulate } \vfill \strut \placelocalnotes[footnote] \stoplocalnotes \egroup \egroup \stopstandardmakeup \input tufte \footnote{oeps} \starttabulate \NC test \footnote{\input tufte } \NC \input tufte \NC \NR \NC test \NC \input tufte \NC \NR \stoptabulate \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [translation] Context, an excursion
Hi! Sebastien Mengin a écrit : Hi, More than a year ago, I started to participate to the translation project of the context for the beginers guide: ConTeXt, an excursion. participate ! Does it mean there is a group doing this? For some reasons, I had to stop this. Now, I'd like to try again. Is this doc still accurate? I mean, does it worth to work on its translation or should I wait for another version? I think ConTeXt, an excursion reflects mkII. It should be updated for mkIV. (I think) I am ready to participate. -- Alain ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
Peter Münster wrote: On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Vedran Miletić wrote: According to RFC 1738 from IETF, * is used only as a wildcard, e.g. to denote all newsgroups from specific category. It is never used for specifiying a single URL. So, http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/file*with*stars; is not allowed??? No, the RFC only says that news:*; has a defined meaning. You can have * in lots of locations in an URL, just not in scheme or domain names. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On 11-2-2010 10:55, Peter Münster wrote: \setupinterlinespace[line=1cm] % just to make the example more obvious \definetextbackground[myBG][background=color, backgroundcolor=green, % backgroundheight=1ex, % does not work % height=1ex, % does not work frame=off] \starttext bla bla \startmyBG \dorecurse{30}{bla }\stopmyBG bla bla \stoptext \starttext \startbuffer \definebar [backbar] [offset=1.5,rulethickness=2.4,color=blue, continue=yes,order=background] \definebar [forebar] [offset=1.5,rulethickness=2.4,color=blue, continue=yes,order=foreground] \stopbuffer \typebuffer \getbuffer The following example code looks messy but this has to do with the fact that we want properly spaced sample injection. \startbuffer from here \startcolor[white]% \startbar[backbar]% \input zapf \removeunwantedspaces \stopbar \stopcolor \space till here \blank from here \startbar[forebar]% \input zapf \removeunwantedspaces \stopbar \space till here \stopbuffer \typebuffer \getbuffer \stoptext - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure
On Thursday 11 February 2010 02:14:12 Tom wrote: When I place a figure at the bottom of a page, everything is fine if it splits a paragraph, but if it falls between paragraphs, indentation of at least one of the paragraphs, generally the one coming after the figure, is lost. It appears that this has been a problem for some people over the years. On Thursday 11 February 2010 13:23:43 Peter Münster wrote: \setupitemize[indentnext=auto] % should be default value everywhere IMHO So here is the `bug' related to this entire thread -- minimal example: \setupindenting [medium,yes] \setupfloats [indentnext=auto] \starttext \input knuth \placefigure [here] {none} {\externalfigure [cow]} \input knuth \stoptext Doesn't work, but \setupfloats [indentnext=yes] forces knuth after the figure to be indented. Alan PS: Your opinion is not so humble, and I do not really see the rational why indentnext=no is the default for most things* rather than indentnext=auto. *OK, perhaps \setupheads... PPS: Subject: What do you miss in ConTeXt? On Tuesday 09 February 2010 19:51:13 Hans Hagen wrote: \composemanual [title=The real context manual,writingstyle=knuth] Let's do it! ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: \definebar [backbar] [offset=1.5,rulethickness=2.4,color=blue, continue=yes,order=background] Great, many thanks for this hidden feature! What is the logic behind offset and rulethickness (the units and the reference point)? (I played a bit with offset=0 and different rulethicknesses...) Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] YABQ - yet another bib question
Hi all, it was quite heartwarming to see how many of us rallied for better bibliographical support when Wolfgang asked what we missed most in ConTeXt... And it's wonderful to see that a new structure for the entire bibliographical stuff is on its way. Hans's xml-based approach will make things much easier than the obsolete bibtex stuff, I'm sure. In the meantime, I'm still struggling with our old bib stuff and have one question. I would like to have two different reference mechanisms for the cite commands and within the publication list. For normal cite commands, I would like authornum Author [1], whereas in the publicationlist itself only the num [1]. AFAICS, \setuppublications[refcommand=authornum] will influence both types. Is there a setup option for this, or is a hack needed? All best Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] YABQ - yet another bib question
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, it was quite heartwarming to see how many of us rallied for better bibliographical support when Wolfgang asked what we missed most in ConTeXt... And it's wonderful to see that a new structure for the entire bibliographical stuff is on its way. Hans's xml-based approach will make things much easier than the obsolete bibtex stuff, I'm sure. In the meantime, I'm still struggling with our old bib stuff and have one question. I would like to have two different reference mechanisms for the cite commands and within the publication list. For normal cite commands, I would like authornum Author [1], whereas in the publicationlist itself only the num [1]. AFAICS, \setuppublications[refcommand=authornum] will influence both types. Is there a setup option for this, or is a hack needed? I expect adding a \setuppublications[refcommand=num] just before the \completepublications will work. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] YABQ - yet another bib question
On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Is there a setup option for this, or is a hack needed? I expect adding a \setuppublications[refcommand=num] just before the \completepublications will work. Best wishes, Taco And right you are! I should've thought of that myself! Thanks Taco! Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?
On 11-2-2010 14:48, Peter Münster wrote: On Thu, Feb 11 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: \definebar [backbar] [offset=1.5,rulethickness=2.4,color=blue, continue=yes,order=background] Great, many thanks for this hidden feature! What is the logic behind offset and rulethickness (the units and the reference point)? (I played a bit with offset=0 and different rulethicknesses...) will be in an upcoming maps article and i'm hesitant to put the text online before it's published see end of node-rul.mkiv ... you can do underline etc by manipulating these values Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] two buglets
Hi all, working on a book project with index and bibliography, I discovered two small bugs (at least I think they are bugs): 1. index sorts uppercase letters after lowercase letters. Minimal example: \starttext \index{Aardvark}Aardvark \index{azygous}azygous \page \setupregister[index][n=1] \placeregister[index] \stoptext I would expect azygous to follow Aardvark, but it is sorted before. 2. (Maybe not a bug, but a somewhat unfriendly behavior): When a \cite command refers to a non-existent key and sort=bbl, ConTeXt bombs out with a lua error: ! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/bibl-tra.lua:77: attempt to compare nil with number stack traceback: ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/bibl-tra.lua:77: in function ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/bibl-tra.lua:76 [C]: in function 'sort' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/bibl-tra.lua:84: in function 'flush' main ctx instance:1: in main chunk. \typesetpubslist ...hacks.flush(\@@pbsorttype )} \doendoflist \dodoplacepublications ...sttrue \typesetpubslist \inpublistfalse \endgroup ... l.37 \placepublications[criterium=all] minimal example (the typo \cite[clarke199] instead of \cite[clarke1999a] is there on purpose to demonstrate the problem): \setuppublications[state=start, sorttype=bbl, refcommand=authornum, numbering=yes] \setuppublicationlist[samplesize={VSdK90},totalnumber=2] \startpublication[k=champion2004,t=book, a={{Champion}},y=2004, n=10,s=Cha04] \author[]{Craige~B.}[C.~B.]{}{Champion} \pubyear{2004} \title{Cultural Politics in Polybius's {\em Histories}} \city{Berkeley} \pubname{Univ. of California Pr.} \stoppublication \startpublication[k=clarke1999a,t=book, a={{Clarke}},y=1999b, n=9,s=Cla99b] \author[]{Katherine}[K.]{}{Clarke} \pubyear{1999\maybeyear{b}} \title{Between Geography and History: Hellenistic Constructions of the Roman World} \city{Oxford} \pubname{Oxford UP} \stoppublication \starttext \cite[champion2004] \cite[clarke199] \page \placepublications[criterium=all] \stoptext Could this error be handled more gracefully, i.e. intercepted? All best Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] two buglets
On 11-2-2010 16:52, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, working on a book project with index and bibliography, I discovered two small bugs (at least I think they are bugs): 1. index sorts uppercase letters after lowercase letters. Minimal example: \starttext \index{Aardvark}Aardvark \index{azygous}azygous \page \setupregister[index][n=1] \placeregister[index] \stoptext I would expect azygous to follow Aardvark, but it is sorted before. are you sure that that's the convention for english? it's easy to change it ... \startluacode sorters.mappings['en'] = { [a] = 2, [b] = 4, [c] = 6, [d] = 8, [e] = 10, [f] = 12, [g] = 14, [h] = 16, [i] = 18, [j] = 20, [k] = 22, [l] = 24, [m] = 26, [n] = 28, [o] = 30, [p] = 32, [q] = 34, [r] = 36, [s] = 38, [t] = 40, [u] = 42, [v] = 44, [w] = 46, [x] = 48, [y] = 50, [z] = 52, [A] = 1, [B] = 3, [C] = 5, [D] = 7, [E] = 9, [F] = 11, [G] = 13, [H] = 15, [I] = 17, [J] = 19, [K] = 21, [L] = 23, [M] = 25, [N] = 27, [O] = 29, [P] = 31, [Q] = 33, [R] = 35, [S] = 37, [T] = 39, [U] = 41, [V] = 43, [W] = 45, [X] = 47, [Y] = 49, [Z] = 51, } \stopluacode \starttext \index{Aardvark}Aardvark \par \index{azygous}azygous \placeregister[index][n=1] \stoptext - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] two buglets
On 11-2-2010 16:52, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: 2. (Maybe not a bug, but a somewhat unfriendly behavior): When a \cite command refers to a non-existent key and sort=bbl, ConTeXt bombs out with a lua error: so what do you expect? to drop that entry? or else, what default key to use? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] two buglets
On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: are you sure that that's the convention for english? it's easy to change it ... \startluacode sorters.mappings['en'] = { [a] = 2, [b] = 4, [c] = 6, [d] = 8, [e] = 10, [f] = 12, [g] = 14, [h] = 16, [i] = 18, [j] = 20, [k] = 22, [l] = 24, [m] = 26, [n] = 28, [o] = 30, [p] = 32, [q] = 34, [r] = 36, [s] = 38, [t] = 40, [u] = 42, [v] = 44, [w] = 46, [x] = 48, [y] = 50, [z] = 52, [A] = 1, [B] = 3, [C] = 5, [D] = 7, [E] = 9, [F] = 11, [G] = 13, [H] = 15, [I] = 17, [J] = 19, [K] = 21, [L] = 23, [M] = 25, [N] = 27, [O] = 29, [P] = 31, [Q] = 33, [R] = 35, [S] = 37, [T] = 39, [U] = 41, [V] = 43, [W] = 45, [X] = 47, [Y] = 49, [Z] = 51, } \stopluacode \starttext \index{Aardvark}Aardvark \par \index{azygous}azygous \placeregister[index][n=1] \stoptext No, I'm not sure at all. All I can say is that a quick check in my scholarly books didn't bring up a single example where uppercase and lowercase were treated differently. If I apply your code, I will have the same problem with Azygous - aardvark. How would I write the table so that lowercase and uppercase are not distinguished at all? I tried \startluacode sorters.mappings['en'] = { [a] = 1, [b] = 2, [c] = 3, [d] = 4, [e] = 5, [f] = 6, [g] = 7, [h] = 8, [i] = 9, [j] = 10, [k] = 11, [l] = 12, [m] = 13, [n] = 14, [o] = 15, [p] = 16, [q] = 17, [r] = 18, [s] = 19, [t] = 20, [u] = 21, [v] = 22, [w] = 23, [x] = 24, [y] = 25, [z] = 26, } \stopluacode but that didn't work. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: PS: Your opinion is not so humble, and I do not really see the rational why indentnext=no is the default for most things* rather than indentnext=auto. Below is my understanding of ConTeXt's design principle (Hans or Taco should correct me if I am wrong). Content should be separate from presentation. This means that indentation should be a function of semantics, and not of how you format your source. So some text ... \startitemize \item \item \stopitemize some more text and some text \startitemize \item \item \stopitemize some more text ... should give the same result. If you want an item group that does not start a paragraph, and an item group that starts a new paragraph, then they are two different objects and you should define two different environments for them. \defineitemgroup[spitemize] %single para [indentnext=no, before=\blank, after=\blank] \defineitemgroup[mpitemize] %multi para [indentnext=yes, before={\blank[big]}, after={\blank[big]}] Then you can use \startspitemize or \startmpitemize dependening on what you want. The way you format the source does not matter. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] two buglets
* Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl [2010-02-11 18:17]: are you sure that that's the convention for english? it's easy to change it ... I've never seen an ordinary English index that was sorted by case. English indexes should definitely default to case-insensitive. (Has anyone here ever been asked for an index in English sorted by case?) -- David ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [translation] Context, an excursion
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alain Delmotte wrote: Hi! Sebastien Mengin a écrit : Hi, More than a year ago, I started to participate to the translation project of the context for the beginers guide: ConTeXt, an excursion. participate ! Does it mean there is a group doing this? http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_on_Excursion%2C_translations For some reasons, I had to stop this. Now, I'd like to try again. Is this doc still accurate? I mean, does it worth to work on its translation or should I wait for another version? I think ConTeXt, an excursion reflects mkII. It should be updated for mkIV. (I think) I am ready to participate. Also see http://foundry.supelec.fr/gf/project/contextman/scmsvn/ Aditya___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] zotero
Hi, Today I checked zotero plugin for openoffice and was very impressed with its functionality and ease of use. Currently I have to export my bibliographies to bibtex format from zotero and then use it through the bibtex module in context. I think this is a awkward way. Can there be a closer connection? a zotero plugin or context module? Or will it be an editor function? Forgive me if i am ignorant of any development. I searched. Best, Salil ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure
On Thursday 11 February 2010 18:55:01 Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: PS: Your opinion is not so humble, and I do not really see the rational why indentnext=no is the default for most things* rather than indentnext=auto. Below is my understanding of ConTeXt's design principle (Hans or Taco should correct me if I am wrong). Content should be separate from presentation. This means that indentation should be a function of semantics, and not of how you format your source. So some text ... \startitemize \item \item \stopitemize some more text and some text \startitemize \item \item \stopitemize some more text ... should give the same result. If you want an item group that does not start a paragraph, and an item group that starts a new paragraph, then they are two different objects and you should define two different environments for them. \defineitemgroup[spitemize] %single para [indentnext=no, before=\blank, after=\blank] \defineitemgroup[mpitemize] %multi para [indentnext=yes, before={\blank[big]}, after={\blank[big]}] Then you can use \startspitemize or \startmpitemize dependening on what you want. The way you format the source does not matter. Aditya That is really ugly: different cases of itemize... If indeed the design principle that you describe is true, then I would *strongly* argue that one should get rid of a blank line separating paragraphs and *require* the use of \par I don't totally agree with this, as I think that the document source should look as simple as possible, and paragraphs separated by blank lines do a lot to make the text readable, more so than \par A new paragraph. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Thursday 11 February 2010 18:55:01 Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote: PS: Your opinion is not so humble, and I do not really see the rational why indentnext=no is the default for most things* rather than indentnext=auto. Below is my understanding of ConTeXt's design principle (Hans or Taco should correct me if I am wrong). Content should be separate from presentation. This means that indentation should be a function of semantics, and not of how you format your source. So some text ... \startitemize \item \item \stopitemize some more text and some text \startitemize \item \item \stopitemize some more text ... should give the same result. If you want an item group that does not start a paragraph, and an item group that starts a new paragraph, then they are two different objects and you should define two different environments for them. \defineitemgroup[spitemize] %single para [indentnext=no, before=\blank, after=\blank] \defineitemgroup[mpitemize] %multi para [indentnext=yes, before={\blank[big]}, after={\blank[big]}] Then you can use \startspitemize or \startmpitemize dependening on what you want. The way you format the source does not matter. Aditya That is really ugly: different cases of itemize... Agreed. That is a matter of personal preference. you can always add indentnext=auto to \setupitemize (I always do that for formulas) or indentnext=yes|no to individual itemize. If indeed the design principle that you describe is true, what I said was how I understand things, and I may be completely wrong here. then I would *strongly* argue that one should get rid of a blank line separating paragraphs and *require* the use of \par AFAIU, tex does not differentiate between blank lines and \par (unless you change the catcode of eol). I don't totally agree with this, as I think that the document source should look as simple as possible, and paragraphs separated by blank lines do a lot to make the text readable, more so than And I am suggesting that adding blank lines around ALL environments, without changing the output. In any case, ConTeXt is flexible to allow you to use whichever style you prefer. It just defaults to one thing. You can have a 'autoindent' module that adds indent=auto to all \setup commands. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] two buglets
On 11-2-2010 18:35, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: are you sure that that's the convention for english? it's easy to change it ... \startluacode sorters.mappings['en'] = { [a] = 2, [b] = 4, [c] = 6, [d] = 8, [e] = 10, [f] = 12, [g] = 14, [h] = 16, [i] = 18, [j] = 20, [k] = 22, [l] = 24, [m] = 26, [n] = 28, [o] = 30, [p] = 32, [q] = 34, [r] = 36, [s] = 38, [t] = 40, [u] = 42, [v] = 44, [w] = 46, [x] = 48, [y] = 50, [z] = 52, [A] = 1, [B] = 3, [C] = 5, [D] = 7, [E] = 9, [F] = 11, [G] = 13, [H] = 15, [I] = 17, [J] = 19, [K] = 21, [L] = 23, [M] = 25, [N] = 27, [O] = 29, [P] = 31, [Q] = 33, [R] = 35, [S] = 37, [T] = 39, [U] = 41, [V] = 43, [W] = 45, [X] = 47, [Y] = 49, [Z] = 51, } \stopluacode \starttext \index{Aardvark}Aardvark \par \index{azygous}azygous \placeregister[index][n=1] \stoptext No, I'm not sure at all. All I can say is that a quick check in my scholarly books didn't bring up a single example where uppercase and lowercase were treated differently. If I apply your code, I will have the same problem with Azygous - aardvark. How would I write the table so that lowercase and uppercase are not distinguished at all? I tried \startluacode sorters.mappings['en'] = { [a] = 1, [b] = 2, [c] = 3, [d] = 4, [e] = 5, [f] = 6, [g] = 7, [h] = 8, [i] = 9, [j] = 10, [k] = 11, [l] = 12, [m] = 13, [n] = 14, [o] = 15, [p] = 16, [q] = 17, [r] = 18, [s] = 19, [t] = 20, [u] = 21, [v] = 22, [w] = 23, [x] = 24, [y] = 25, [z] = 26, } \stopluacode but that didn't work. just give them the same code, so A=1, a=1 (we could make that an option: upper first, lower first, mixed) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] tabs in Lilypond
Hello, Maybe it's wrong place to ask, but does anybody know how to typeset guitar tabulatures in Lilypond? And is ConTeXt Lilypond module is up to date? Vyatcheslav ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] zotero
On 11-2-2010 19:55, Salil Sayed wrote: Hi, Today I checked zotero plugin for openoffice and was very impressed with its functionality and ease of use. Currently I have to export my bibliographies to bibtex format from zotero and then use it through the bibtex module in context. I think this is a awkward way. Can there be a closer connection? a zotero plugin or context module? Or will it be an editor function? Forgive me if i am ignorant of any development. I searched. as i never use bibliographies i have no clue what zotero is but we could probably read it in (asusming it's xml) just like a bibtex file Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure
This works, but my problem may be self-inflicted by my code for chapter first pages. I want different a different first page format for the introduction, contents and appendices than I have for regular chapters. I suppose that \chapter can be fed parameters other than the chapter name, but can't find them described in the manual. It isn't clear to me if \setuphead can be used for these non-standard chapters. Tom -Original Message- From: ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Alan BRASLAU Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 8:41 AM To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Subject: Re: [NTG-context] indent lost after \placefigure On Thursday 11 February 2010 02:14:12 Tom wrote: When I place a figure at the bottom of a page, everything is fine if it splits a paragraph, but if it falls between paragraphs, indentation of at least one of the paragraphs, generally the one coming after the figure, is lost. It appears that this has been a problem for some people over the years. On Thursday 11 February 2010 13:23:43 Peter Münster wrote: \setupitemize[indentnext=auto] % should be default value everywhere IMHO So here is the `bug' related to this entire thread -- minimal example: \setupindenting [medium,yes] \setupfloats [indentnext=auto] \starttext \input knuth \placefigure [here] {none} {\externalfigure [cow]} \input knuth \stoptext Doesn't work, but \setupfloats [indentnext=yes] forces knuth after the figure to be indented. Alan PS: Your opinion is not so humble, and I do not really see the rational why indentnext=no is the default for most things* rather than indentnext=auto. *OK, perhaps \setupheads... PPS: Subject: What do you miss in ConTeXt? On Tuesday 09 February 2010 19:51:13 Hans Hagen wrote: \composemanual [title=The real context manual,writingstyle=knuth] Let's do it! ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] chapter headers (was: indent lost after \placefigure)
Am 11.02.10 20:50, schrieb Tom: This works, but my problem may be self-inflicted by my code for chapter first pages. I want different a different first page format for the introduction, contents and appendices than I have for regular chapters. I suppose that \chapter can be fed parameters other than the chapter name, but can't find them described in the manual. It isn't clear to me if \setuphead can be used for these non-standard chapters. you can use context’s document structure environments and change the layout for the chapter pages in the front- and backmatter \startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart] \setuphead[chapter][...] \stopsectionblockenvironment \startsectionblockenvironment[appendix] \setuphead[chapter][...] \stopsectionblockenvironment \starttext \startfrontmatter \chapterIntroduction} \complecontent \stopfrontmatter \startbodymatter % the content \stopbodymatter \startappendices \chapter{A appendix chapter} \stopappendices \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [bib] getting full author(s)'s name(s)
Good evening, how do I retrieve an author's (or editor's) full name in the correct order (little endian: first name(s) -- surname) from a bib entry? I can do stuff like \getcitedata[author1] but that does leave me with only one of many. I'm convinced the answer lies somewhere hidden in bibl-tra.mkiv inside \complexbibdef and particularly \specialbibinsert but I can't grasp the relevant part (getting the list) of it. Thanks very much, Philipp -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments pgpbOp1sKOqcO.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] zotero
zotero is a firefox plugin (hence a wrapped javascript object) that uses an sqlite database. there is another firefox zotero plugin for openoffice which adds a toolbar to openoffice and lets you choose the citations and styles from within dialog boxes and dynamically change/update them. So we can either 1. access it through firefox while firefox is open 2. or write a zotero plugin to export in a format more suitable for context (.bbl?). Zotero also exports to various other formats including its own Zotero RDF. 3. or have an plugin in an editor which lets us choose citation directly from an open firefox instance or a combination of these. zotero is only 4 years old and was downloaded 4million times in last year according to its website http://www.zotero.org . Considering that it is used only by academic researchers it is a huge phenomena. Salil From: Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl To: mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl Cc: Salil Sayed salil...@yahoo.com Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 9:32:57 PM Subject: Re: [NTG-context] zotero On 11-2-2010 19:55, Salil Sayed wrote: Hi, Today I checked zotero plugin for openoffice and was very impressed with its functionality and ease of use. Currently I have to export my bibliographies to bibtex format from zotero and then use it through the bibtex module in context. I think this is a awkward way. Can there be a closer connection? a zotero plugin or context module? Or will it be an editor function? Forgive me if i am ignorant of any development. I searched. as i never use bibliographies i have no clue what zotero is but we could probably read it in (asusming it's xml) just like a bibtex file Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] two buglets
On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: just give them the same code, so A=1, a=1 (we could make that an option: upper first, lower first, mixed) Hans Thank you, Hans, that works nicely! It would be good to have this as an option. And I would vote for having the mixed setting as default. I wasn't even aware that there were indexes that sort according to case. All best Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] zotero
On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:10:31 Salil Sayed wrote: zotero is a firefox plugin Thus, of limited generality... ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] tabs in Lilypond
* Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky yatskov...@gmail.com [2010-02-11 21:30]: Hello, Maybe it's wrong place to ask, but does anybody know how to typeset guitar tabulatures in Lilypond? \new TabStaff { \clef tab c d e f g } And is ConTeXt Lilypond module is up to date? Not sure about that. Last time I tried, I couldn't get it to work - but it was probably my fault. -- David ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] chapter headers (was: indent lost after \placefigure)
Thanks, this is very helpful. I do have a couple of questions, though. Should I insert a section for the body of the text something like this? \startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart] \setuphead[chapter][...] \stopsectionblockenvironment \completecontent causes two blank (except for header) to be produced before the table of contents but \placecontent doesn't. It doesn't seem to me that the extra pages should be created. Could I have done something that caused this? Tom -Original Message- From: ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Schuster Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 2:59 PM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: [NTG-context] chapter headers (was: indent lost after \placefigure) Am 11.02.10 20:50, schrieb Tom: This works, but my problem may be self-inflicted by my code for chapter first pages. I want different a different first page format for the introduction, contents and appendices than I have for regular chapters. I suppose that \chapter can be fed parameters other than the chapter name, but can't find them described in the manual. It isn't clear to me if \setuphead can be used for these non-standard chapters. you can use context's document structure environments and change the layout for the chapter pages in the front- and backmatter \startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart] \setuphead[chapter][...] \stopsectionblockenvironment \startsectionblockenvironment[appendix] \setuphead[chapter][...] \stopsectionblockenvironment \starttext \startfrontmatter \chapterIntroduction} \complecontent \stopfrontmatter \startbodymatter % the content \stopbodymatter \startappendices \chapter{A appendix chapter} \stopappendices \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] chapter headers
Am 11.02.10 22:41, schrieb Tom: Thanks, this is very helpful. I do have a couple of questions, though. Should I insert a section for the body of the text something like this? \startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart] \setuphead[chapter][...] \stopsectionblockenvironment You can do this but you don't have to, general settings for the headers in all blocks can be done outside of the sectionblock environment and only certain setups should be done in the block. \completecontent causes two blank (except for header) to be produced before the table of contents but \placecontent doesn't. It doesn't seem to me that the extra pages should be created. Could I have done something that caused this? Who knows, i can't see what you did in your document from here. \completecontents insert a header before the TOC while the \placecontent produce only the TOC without a header. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] tabs in Lilypond
Am 2010-02-11 um 22:42 schrieb David Rogers: Maybe it's wrong place to ask, but does anybody know how to typeset guitar tabulatures in Lilypond? \new TabStaff { \clef tab c d e f g } BTW LilyPond's documentation was recently reworked and is really nice now! (It was better than ConTeXt's before, at least WRT completeness.) And is ConTeXt Lilypond module is up to date? Not sure about that. Last time I tried, I couldn't get it to work - but it was probably my fault. I wouldn't blame you - it's been a while since I updated it, and it always just works with a few versions of LilyPond and ConTeXt. Sorry, I've more urgent things to do, and I don't need it at the moment. It's limited anyway. Probably it's easier to include LilyPond's PDFs as externalfigures if you have special needs. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] some math symbols not working
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Warrence wrote: Hi, I was trying some math symbols and stumbled over the following commands, that do not work in my context documents (the comments say what's not working exactly). The pasted document works at http://live.contextgarden.net/ . I'm using the latest context-minimals as provided on the website. Is this a MkIV issue? Yes. The mappings in MkIV are incomplete. Whenever you find a missing symbol, send an email, and I will try to fix add it. \cong The mapping in math-vfu is wrong and it was mapping the unicode slot of cong to the glyph for dotplus. I am attaching a file that fixes this. However, I do not know how to proceed for \cong. \cong is one of the symbols thar are composed from other symbols in plain tex. So, most traditional tex math fonts (including LM) do not have that symbol. However, opentype math fonts do. Ideally, what we want to map \cong to a font glyph, if one exists; otherwise, we should fall back to a composed character. Hans, we need a mechanism to implement fallbacks for math characters. \mapsto \hookleftarrow \longleftarrow \Longleftarrow \longrightarrow \Longrightarrow \longleftrightarrow \Longleftrightarrow \longmapsto \hookrightarrow \bowtie \models \Join Same thing as \cong. \blacksquare Added In addition: \ncong is not aligned with = and \cong I am not sure what \ncong should map to: 0x2246 or 0x2247? There is inconsistency between the mappings in char-def and math-vfu which can be fixed easily once I figure out what is the correct mapping. % the following give Undefined control sequence: \gneq % \lneq works Fixed.. was a typo \Diamond \lozenge I am not sure which unicode slot this should map to (0x25C7?). What is the difference between \diamond and \Diamond? \lhd \rhd \unlhd \unrhd I am not sure which unicode slot they should map to. In ams mappings \triangleleft is different from \lhd, and I cannot find the right symbols for both. I will investigate more for the last two sets. In the mean time, Hans can you apply the attached patch for \blacksquare and \gneq. Adityadiff --git a/char-def.lua b/char-def.lua index 3aec401..5f768e3 100644 --- a/char-def.lua +++ b/char-def.lua @@ -54277,6 +54277,8 @@ characters.data={ description=NORMAL SUBGROUP OF, direction=on, linebreak=al, + mathspec = { +class=bin, mathname=triangleleft, mathclass=bin, mathname=triangleleft, mirror=0x22B3, @@ -59806,6 +59808,8 @@ characters.data={ description=BLACK SQUARE, direction=on, linebreak=ai, + mathclass=ord, + mathname=blacksquare, unicodeslot=0x25A0, }, [0x25A1]={ @@ -68185,7 +68189,7 @@ characters.data={ direction=on, linebreak=al, mathclass=relation, - mathname=rneq, + mathname=gneq, unicodeslot=0x2A88, }, [0x2A89]={ diff --git a/math-vfu.lua b/math-vfu.lua index 9b16357..a2e3b58 100644 --- a/math-vfu.lua +++ b/math-vfu.lua @@ -1126,7 +1126,7 @@ fonts.enc.math[tex-ma] = { [0x024C7] = 0x72, -- circleR \circledR [0x024C8] = 0x73, -- circleS \circledS [0x022D4] = 0x74, -- fork \pitchfork -[0x02245] = 0x75, -- dotplus \dotplus +[0x02214] = 0x75, -- dotplus \dotplus [0x0223D] = 0x76, -- revsimilar\backsim [0x022CD] = 0x77, -- revasymptequal\backsimeq -- AM: Check this! I mapped it to simeq. [0x0231E] = 0x78, -- rightanglesw \llcorner ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] some math symbols not working
On 12-2-2010 0:10, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Hans, we need a mechanism to implement fallbacks for math characters. \mapsto \hookleftarrow \longleftarrow \Longleftarrow \longrightarrow \Longrightarrow \longleftrightarrow \Longleftrightarrow \longmapsto \hookrightarrow \bowtie \models \Join grep for fallback in char-def.lua -) eventually I want to solve that by using virtual characters Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] chapter headers
Wolfgang, I found a spurious ] in the setuphead for the frontpart. Somehow it didn't cause a compile error but was treated as text that I didn't notice at first. Because I want the first pages of regular chapters to look different than those for the contents, introduction and index, I created a sectionblockenvironment and a setuphead for the regular chapters. Now to figure out how to keep page numbering from starting until the introduction without putting special code in that chapter. Tom -Original Message- From: ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Schuster Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:10 PM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: Re: [NTG-context] chapter headers Am 11.02.10 22:41, schrieb Tom: Thanks, this is very helpful. I do have a couple of questions, though. Should I insert a section for the body of the text something like this? \startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart] \setuphead[chapter][...] \stopsectionblockenvironment You can do this but you don't have to, general settings for the headers in all blocks can be done outside of the sectionblock environment and only certain setups should be done in the block. \completecontent causes two blank (except for header) to be produced before the table of contents but \placecontent doesn't. It doesn't seem to me that the extra pages should be created. Could I have done something that caused this? Who knows, i can't see what you did in your document from here. \completecontents insert a header before the TOC while the \placecontent produce only the TOC without a header. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] some math symbols not working
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: On 12-2-2010 0:10, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Hans, we need a mechanism to implement fallbacks for math characters. \mapsto \hookleftarrow \longleftarrow \Longleftarrow \longrightarrow \Longrightarrow \longleftrightarrow \Longleftrightarrow \longmapsto \hookrightarrow \bowtie \models \Join grep for fallback in char-def.lua -) I mean a mechanism that actually does something :-). Try $\nsubset$. eventually I want to solve that by using virtual characters Should I just start adding stuff to fallback and assume that you will get the mechanism to work? IIRC, in the past we were not sure where to specify the fallback characters. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009
Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote: Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package. You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html which installs the latest context-beta. Aditya Hello Aditya, I updated the package today on my system and it seems it is broken again? The layout is wrong :( Thank you Lubos ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [bib] getting full author(s)'s name(s)
Philipp Gesang wrote: Good evening, how do I retrieve an author's (or editor's) full name in the correct order (little endian: first name(s) -- surname) from a bib entry? I can do stuff like \getcitedata[author1] but that does leave me with only one of many. I'm convinced the answer lies somewhere hidden in bibl-tra.mkiv inside \complexbibdef and particularly \specialbibinsert but I can't grasp the relevant part (getting the list) of it. If you are talking about \cite then the answer is not in \specialbibinsert, but in \bibauthorref, which is quite complicated because of sorting. Sorry, you just can't do this right now. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009
Lubos Kolouch wrote: Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote: Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package. You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html which installs the latest context-beta. Aditya Hello Aditya, I updated the package today on my system and it seems it is broken again? The layout is wrong :( Me != Aditya, but I guess it would help if you explained what exactly is wrong ... Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [tex-live] difference texlive 2008, 2009
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote: Aditya Mahajan, Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:46:54 -0500: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Lubos Kolouch wrote: Thank you for the investigation, I will open a ticket with the buggy (Archlinux) texlive package. You can also my context-minimals-git package for Archlinux: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2009/043743.html which installs the latest context-beta. Aditya Hello Aditya, I updated the package today on my system and it seems it is broken again? The layout is wrong :( Do you mean that the arch linux package context-minimals-git does not install, or that something is wrong in the output of a document compiled by ConTeXt? Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___