Re: [NTG-context] \unit and Hertz, lux, and degrees/minutes/seconds

2011-11-18 Thread Pontus Lurcock
On Fri 18 Nov 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:

 so, best is that those asking for it come up with a list of issues:
 which symbols need this option, is it language related or whatever,
 so that i can do them all at once. We can already have different
 mapping sets so spacing could be part of that.

I don't personally have a need for units in the foreseeable future (I
was just nitpicking with Robin about spacing) so feel free to ignore
any of my suggestions, but I think the summary so far would be:

1. Spacing for almost all SI units should be the same and doesn't
   need special cases.

2. Geographical degrees/minutes/seconds should have no spaces.

3. Spacing for degrees temperature varies according to different style 
   guides -- both before and after the ° -- so ideally it would be
   possible to set these independently of the rest of the units.

For my own part I would add:

4. SI unit abbreviations are mostly capital letters, and look (to me)
   strange with old-style figures. I have seen books which used 
   old-style figures for page numbers, years, etc. but switched to
   lining figures when a unit was involved; this is also what I did
   in my thesis. So I think it would be useful to allow an automatic
   switch to lining figures to be configured when typesetting a unit.

Pont
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[NTG-context] Single user installation (Standalone)

2011-11-18 Thread Hagmann Jörg
Hi,

I noticed that when updating the suite in my home directory I need to be a 
superuser. If not, I get:


! I can't write on file `cont-en.log'.
Please type another transcript file name: 


Operating system: Mac 10.6.8

Is it ok to change the wiki accordingly?

Cheers, Jörg
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Re: [NTG-context] Single user installation (Standalone)

2011-11-18 Thread Taco Hoekwater

On Nov 18, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Hagmann Jörg wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I noticed that when updating the suite in my home directory I need to be a 
 superuser. If not, I get:
 
 
 ! I can't write on file `cont-en.log'.
 Please type another transcript file name: 
 
 
 Operating system: Mac 10.6.8


Not for me, and afaict, it has never happened to me before. Except … when at 
some point you have run ./first-update or context --make as superuser, then the 
files from that run will be owned by the superuser from then on. My guess is 
that some of the files inside your local context tree are no longer owned by 
you. 

You could wipe the install (as superuser) and retry. Or, if you are familiar 
with unix file handling, you could (as superuser) reassign the affected files 
to your own user account from within Terminal, like this

First, check the output of this:

  $ sudo find contextinstallroot -not -user youraccount

Then run:

  $ sudo find contextinstallroot -not -user youraccount -exec chown 
youraccount  \{\} \;

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Single user installation (Standalone)

2011-11-18 Thread Hagmann Jörg
 Not for me, and afaict, it has never happened to me before. Except … when at 
 some point you have run ./first-update or context --make as superuser, then 
 the files from that run will be owned by the superuser from then on. My guess 
 is that some of the files inside your local context tree are no longer owned 
 by you.

I probably did that long ago.

 You could wipe the install (as superuser) and retry. Or, if you are familiar 
 with unix file handling, you could (as superuser) reassign the affected files 
 to your own user account from within Terminal, like this
 
 First, check the output of this:
 
  $ sudo find contextinstallroot -not -user youraccount
 
 Then run:
 
  $ sudo find contextinstallroot -not -user youraccount -exec chown 
 youraccount  \{\} \;

Thanks, I learned a couple of new tricks.

Cheers, Jörg
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt group

2011-11-18 Thread Hagmann Jörg
I wasn't aware of this: http://group.contextgarden.net/   (the ConTeXt group).

Could somebody tell me, in more detail than on the above site, the purpose of 
it and in particular its relationship to NTG (which itself is already ConTeXt 
dominated)?

Thanks, Jörg
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt group

2011-11-18 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:44, Hagmann Jörg wrote:
 I wasn't aware of this: http://group.contextgarden.net/   (the ConTeXt 
 group).

 Could somebody tell me, in more detail than on the above site, the purpose of 
 it and in particular its relationship to NTG (which itself is already ConTeXt 
 dominated)?

Dear Hagmann,

Thank you very much for the question.

We decided to create a new user group during the meeting in Brejlov in
2010. Main reason was that even though NTG is the group of choice for
supporting ConTeXt development, it is not really clear to many users
why they should join a Dutch user group. And it is not always
justified to use NTG's money for ConTeXt only since there are also
many other LaTeX users in the group, other interests etc.

The group has been founded slightly more than a year ago, but only
started operating more seriously during the last ConTeXt Meeting in
Belgium. We have 28 members now, but sadly still no bank account. We
hope to settle that withing the next two weeks, even though we are
still not sure which bank to choose/in what country. The main
complication is that group is founded in France, president is Dutch,
treasurer is German ... It is trivial if group is established in the
same country where the bank account is opened and if both president
and treasurer are present when the account is opened. We didn't want
to promote the group too publicly too much yet since everyone's first
question would be how to pay for the membership.

Why the user group?

* TeX user groups often fund projects like development of Latin
Modern, TeX Gyre, MetaPost, LuaTeX, ... ConTeXt group would join other
groups in helping TeX develop further.

* Costs of domain name, server, ...

* When organizing ConTeXt meetings, one might have to pay for the
hotel and different other costs in advance (before conference fees are
collected). The user group could help paying those costs. On the other
hand some conference sites are more expensive than others. In case of
an expensive conference, ConTeXt Group can help cover part of the
costs. People who come to conferences are usually the most active
developers and conferences are the most perfect way to brainstorm and
get things done. On the other hand, if some money is left from the
conference, the group can use it next year or for other reasons. One
can also help individual developers to join the conference when they
cannot afford to.

* The group could apply for different fundings, search sponsors etc.

* We want to publish conference proceedings. The first issue is being
worked on and will hopefully be published very soon in 2012 (the plan
was to release it before Christmas, but beginning of 2012 is more
realistic).

In short: the group will help organizing meeting, pay for
server-related costs, promote usage of ConTeXt, force authors to
publish in nice proceedings, allow grateful users to give back, foster
development of different projects that are relevant for ConTeXt, ...

We also need a new webpage design and I hope that registration still
works after being moved to the new server ;)
You are welcome to register. We will let you know as soon as we will
be able to accept the payments.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Imposition eats footnote numbers (on the latest beta) [FIXED]

2011-11-18 Thread Marco Pessotto

On version: 2011.11.17 23:31 it works again. Thanks Hans!

-- 
Marco

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt group

2011-11-18 Thread Hagmann Jörg
Hi Mojca,

Thanks for the explanation -- I wanted to make sure there is not too much of an 
overlap between NTG and the group.

Jörg

On Nov 18, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:44, Hagmann Jörg wrote:
 I wasn't aware of this: http://group.contextgarden.net/   (the ConTeXt 
 group).
 
 Could somebody tell me, in more detail than on the above site, the purpose 
 of it and in particular its relationship to NTG (which itself is already 
 ConTeXt dominated)?
 
 Dear Hagmann,
 
 Thank you very much for the question.
 
 We decided to create a new user group during the meeting in Brejlov in
 2010. Main reason was that even though NTG is the group of choice for
 supporting ConTeXt development, it is not really clear to many users
 why they should join a Dutch user group. And it is not always
 justified to use NTG's money for ConTeXt only since there are also
 many other LaTeX users in the group, other interests etc.
 
 The group has been founded slightly more than a year ago, but only
 started operating more seriously during the last ConTeXt Meeting in
 Belgium. We have 28 members now, but sadly still no bank account. We
 hope to settle that withing the next two weeks, even though we are
 still not sure which bank to choose/in what country. The main
 complication is that group is founded in France, president is Dutch,
 treasurer is German ... It is trivial if group is established in the
 same country where the bank account is opened and if both president
 and treasurer are present when the account is opened. We didn't want
 to promote the group too publicly too much yet since everyone's first
 question would be how to pay for the membership.
 
 Why the user group?
 
 * TeX user groups often fund projects like development of Latin
 Modern, TeX Gyre, MetaPost, LuaTeX, ... ConTeXt group would join other
 groups in helping TeX develop further.
 
 * Costs of domain name, server, ...
 
 * When organizing ConTeXt meetings, one might have to pay for the
 hotel and different other costs in advance (before conference fees are
 collected). The user group could help paying those costs. On the other
 hand some conference sites are more expensive than others. In case of
 an expensive conference, ConTeXt Group can help cover part of the
 costs. People who come to conferences are usually the most active
 developers and conferences are the most perfect way to brainstorm and
 get things done. On the other hand, if some money is left from the
 conference, the group can use it next year or for other reasons. One
 can also help individual developers to join the conference when they
 cannot afford to.
 
 * The group could apply for different fundings, search sponsors etc.
 
 * We want to publish conference proceedings. The first issue is being
 worked on and will hopefully be published very soon in 2012 (the plan
 was to release it before Christmas, but beginning of 2012 is more
 realistic).
 
 In short: the group will help organizing meeting, pay for
 server-related costs, promote usage of ConTeXt, force authors to
 publish in nice proceedings, allow grateful users to give back, foster
 development of different projects that are relevant for ConTeXt, ...
 
 We also need a new webpage design and I hope that registration still
 works after being moved to the new server ;)
 You are welcome to register. We will let you know as soon as we will
 be able to accept the payments.
 
 Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt group

2011-11-18 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 16:39, Hagmann Jörg wrote:
 Hi Mojca,

 Thanks for the explanation -- I wanted to make sure there is not too much of 
 an overlap between NTG and the group.

Only the same president, secretary, journal editor and design :)

You really cannot call that a big overlap. (Articles in magazine will
be different.)

Mojca
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[NTG-context] Framed environment

2011-11-18 Thread Troy Henderson
Is there an environment (i.e., like a \startframed ... \stopframed)
method for using \framed{ ... } on a block of text?  Certain \start ...
\stop combinations don't seem to play well with \framed{ ... }.  For
example,

\usemodule[amsl]
\starttext
\framed{
\startformula
\startalign
A=B
\stopalign
\stopformula
}
\stoptext

fails evidently because \framed{ ... } and the \startalign ...
\stopalign don't like one another.

--
Troy Henderson
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