[NTG-context] ConTeXt User Meeting / EuroTeX 2012?

2012-04-13 Thread Mari Voipio
Hello!

I know I shouldn't be asking until after BachoTeX, but unfortunately
my calendar for autumn is starting to fill up and there are things
that should be settled pretty soon. (And I can't go to BachoTeX to
sort things out there.)

The page http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2012/ says that 6CM will be
held in The Netherlands in connection with EuroTeX on October 8-12.
The page also says that the arrangers can be contacted at
euro...@ntg.nl, but that address bounces so I had to resort to the
list.

Are the dates and the place correct and so settled that I can rely on
them while planning the autumn program (both work and otherwise)? And
whom should I contact about the conference program and such things?
I've got a few suggestions for them...


nitpicking
The page title for  http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2012/ is
ConTeXt User Meeting 2009. This is mildly annoying as that is the
text that Firefox shows as tab name and I always go oops, wrong page
even though it isn't. Could somebody change that year to 2012, please?
/nitpicking


Thanks,
Mari
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt User Meeting / EuroTeX 2012?

2012-04-13 Thread Martin Schröder
2012/4/13 Mari Voipio mari.voi...@iki.fi:
 Are the dates and the place correct and so settled that I can rely on
 them while planning the autumn program (both work and otherwise)? And
 whom should I contact about the conference program and such things?
 I've got a few suggestions for them...

I share your concerns; but since this will also be the autumn meeting of
DANTE and the release party of LuaTeX 1.0 I'm still convinced. :-)

Best
   Martin
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt User Meeting / EuroTeX 2012?

2012-04-13 Thread Hans Hagen

On 13-4-2012 09:43, Martin Schröder wrote:

2012/4/13 Mari Voipiomari.voi...@iki.fi:

Are the dates and the place correct and so settled that I can rely on
them while planning the autumn program (both work and otherwise)? And
whom should I contact about the conference program and such things?
I've got a few suggestions for them...


I share your concerns; but since this will also be the autumn meeting of
DANTE and the release party of LuaTeX 1.0 I'm still convinced. :-)


The hotel and facilities are reserved so the dates are fixed.

Hans

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[NTG-context] Break links into items in the itemize list

2012-04-13 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Hello all
Once again I return to this issue. Lukas confirmed  me that really links 
do not work. Where is error when links into items in the itemize list 
are not working. Links are active but not working...
It is interesting that the chapter on the links when hovering tooltip 
will appear with the page number where the link leads, not the case for 
the line item.


Here is Lukas example (my example is bottom )


\setupinteraction[state=start]

\starttext
  Go to \in[sec:1] -- \about[sec:1] or \in[it:a] -- \about[it:a].

  \page
  \section[sec:1]{Sec}
\startitemize[n]
  \item[it:a] Item A
\stopitemize
\stoptext



Thanx for advices
Jaroslav Hajtmar



Here is my old example:


\setupinteraction[state=start]

\starttext

\in{First link}[bibl:7] and \in{second link}[bibl:1]

\page

\startitemize[n]
\item [bibl:7] Item 7
\item [bibl:4] Item 4
\item [bibl:8] Item 8
\item [bibl:10] Item 10
\item [bibl:1] Item 1
\item [bibl:20] Item 20
\stopitemize

\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] Comma separating multiple footnotes

2012-04-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 12.04.2012 um 23:34 schrieb Kip Warner:

 On Tue, 2012-04-10 at 11:21 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Am 10.04.2012 um 03:14 schrieb Kip Warner:
 
 Hey list,
 
 Is there any means of setting up footnotes such that whenever they are
 tangential, they are automatically separated by a comma delimiter?
 
 No there isnt but its not hard hard to add a separator because its already 
 possible to change the distance between the numbers.
 
 Would that be done with \setupnotation or maybe \setupfootnotes? Either way, 
 I'm not sure how to do this.


I wrote a patch for the footnote code where you can set a symbol between the 
numbers with \setupnote[footnote][textseparator=…] but it’s decision to include 
it.

\unprotect

\unexpanded\def\strc_notes_inject_symbol
  {\removeunwantedspaces
   \doifitalicelse\/\donothing % Charles IV \footnote{the fourth}
   \ifdim\lastkern=\notesignal
%\kern\noteparameter\c!distance % yes or no note font? or main text
 \strc_notes_inject_separator
   \fi
   \nobreak
   \begingroup
   \currentconstructionsynchronize % this flushes the data to the list
   \strc_notes_register_note_page % this registers the symbol page number (late)
   \strc_notes_interaction_check_inline
   \strc_notes_set_style_color_inline\c!textstyle\c!textcolor
   \hbox \strc_notes_get_reference_attribute_symbol \bgroup
   \dostarttagged\t!descriptionsymbol\currentnote
   \dotagsetnotesymbol
   
\noteparameter\c!textcommand{\ctxcommand{noteprefixednumber(\currentnote,\currentnotenumber)}}%
   % the next one can cycle so we need to make sure it has no advance width
   \doif{\noteparameter\c!indicator}\v!yes\strc_notes_inject_pointer
   \dostoptagged
   \egroup
   \endgroup
   \dostoptagged % check
   \globallet\lastnotesymbol\relax}

\unexpanded\def\strc_notes_inject_dummy % temp hack
  {\removeunwantedspaces
   \doifitalicelse\/\donothing % Charles IV \footnote{the fourth}
   \ifdim\lastkern=\notesignal
%\kern\noteparameter\c!distance % yes or no note font? or main text
 \strc_notes_inject_separator
   \fi
   \nobreak
   \hbox to .5em{}%
   \globallet\lastnotesymbol\relax}

\def\strc_notes_inject_separator
  {\edef\p_textseparator{\noteparameter\c!textseparator}%
   \ifx \p_textseparator \empty
 \kern\noteparameter\c!distance
   \else
 \nobreak\hbox\bgroup
   \strc_notes_interaction_check_inline
   \strc_notes_set_style_color_inline\c!textstyle\c!textcolor
   \noteparameter\c!textcommand{\p_textseparator}%
   \kern\noteparameter\c!distance
 \egroup\nobreak
   \fi}

\protect

\setupnote
  [footnote]
  [
 textseparator={,},
 textstyle=italic,
 textcolor=red,
  distance=.5em,
  ]

\starttext
Text\footnote{One}\footnote{Two}\footnote{Three}
\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] lucida ot

2012-04-13 Thread Mari Voipio
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 00:25, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 Just copy the *.otf files to for instance a directory
  yourtexroot/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/opentype/data/lucidaot

 and then run
  mtxrun --generate

 after that
  \setupbodyfont[lucidaot]
 should work.

It does! I had a prolonged fight with my Mac about using an up-to-date
version of ConTeXt, but once I got that far, the rest wasn't that bad.

So the next for dummies question is:

If I do \ss or 'sans' in setupbodyfont, I get Lucida Sans - but how do
I access Blackletter, Calligraphy and Handwriting?

A quick excursion into \cg and \hw didn't work out, I think I'm
missing something here...


I'd have a real use for all of the three like about right now,
recreating something from 15th and 17th century with 21st century
technology, with output in both period style and in various more
modern forms - ConTeXt should be the perfect tool for the job, if I
can learn enough to make it work :-)



Thank you,

Mari
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Re: [NTG-context] lucida ot

2012-04-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 13.04.2012 um 19:12 schrieb Mari Voipio:

 On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 00:25, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 
 Just copy the *.otf files to for instance a directory
  yourtexroot/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/opentype/data/lucidaot
 
 and then run
  mtxrun --generate
 
 after that
  \setupbodyfont[lucidaot]
 should work.
 
 It does! I had a prolonged fight with my Mac about using an up-to-date
 version of ConTeXt, but once I got that far, the rest wasn't that bad.
 
 So the next for dummies question is:
 
 If I do \ss or 'sans' in setupbodyfont, I get Lucida Sans - but how do
 I access Blackletter, Calligraphy and Handwriting?
 
 A quick excursion into \cg and \hw didn't work out, I think I'm
 missing something here...
 
 I'd have a real use for all of the three like about right now,
 recreating something from 15th and 17th century with 21st century
 technology, with output in both period style and in various more
 modern forms - ConTeXt should be the perfect tool for the job, if I
 can learn enough to make it work :-)

I attached a modified version of the typescript file where I added calligraphic 
and handwriting, blackletter is missing because there is no font command for 
the style.

\setupbodyfont[lucidanova]

\define[1]\LucidaTest
  {\begingroup
   #1\tf Regular \it Italic \sl Slanted \bf Bold \bi BoldItalic \bs BoldSlanted 
\tf fi fl VA \par
   \endgroup}

\starttext
\LucidaTest\rm
\LucidaTest\ss
\LucidaTest\tt
\LucidaTest\hw
\LucidaTest\cg
\stoptext

Wolfgang


type-imp-lucida-opentype.mkiv
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Re: [NTG-context] lucida ot

2012-04-13 Thread Mari Voipio
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 20:40, Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I attached a modified version of the typescript file where I added 
 calligraphic and handwriting,

That was quick! And working, of course. :-)

Not sure I like the word spacing of the handwriting font and the
kerning on the calligraphy version, but that's why we have ConTeXt,
for a bit of tweaking.
Now I can at least get started, and figure out about the Blackletter a
bit later - especially as it probably isn't appropriate style for this
project anyway, wrong time and place (and probably least legible of
these, too).


Thank you!

Mari
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Re: [NTG-context] Break links into items in the itemize list

2012-04-13 Thread Hans Hagen

On 13-4-2012 09:50, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

Hello all
Once again I return to this issue. Lukas confirmed me that really links
do not work. Where is error when links into items in the itemize list
are not working. Links are active but not working...
It is interesting that the chapter on the links when hovering tooltip
will appear with the page number where the link leads, not the case for
the line item.

Here is Lukas example (my example is bottom )


\setupinteraction[state=start]

\starttext
Go to \in[sec:1] -- \about[sec:1] or \in[it:a] -- \about[it:a].

\page
\section[sec:1]{Sec}
\startitemize[n]
\item[it:a] Item A
\stopitemize
\stoptext



I'll look into it, but keep in mind that \about makes no sense for items

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Re: [NTG-context] Break links into items in the itemize list

2012-04-13 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Thanks Hans for your feedback.
Can be solved in such a case some alternative? I use this method for a 
simple bibliography. Now everything is working OK, I only mentioned the 
problem with break links.


Thanx Jaroslav


On 13-4-2012 09:50, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

Hello all
Once again I return to this issue. Lukas confirmed me that really links
do not work. Where is error when links into items in the itemize list
are not working. Links are active but not working...
It is interesting that the chapter on the links when hovering tooltip
will appear with the page number where the link leads, not the case for
the line item.

Here is Lukas example (my example is bottom )


\setupinteraction[state=start]

\starttext
Go to \in[sec:1] -- \about[sec:1] or \in[it:a] -- \about[it:a].

\page
\section[sec:1]{Sec}
\startitemize[n]
\item[it:a] Item A
\stopitemize
\stoptext



I'll look into it, but keep in mind that \about makes no sense for items

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Re: [NTG-context] MLA Bibliography

2012-04-13 Thread Kip Warner
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 10:29 +1200, Pontus Lurcock wrote:
 I had a quick google before writing my previous mail, but only turned
 up
 http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100208.170849.f874f701.hu.html
 , which implies that at least as of two years ago MLA bibliographies
 were still an unsolved problem.

That's too bad.

 Sounds like a bug, but never having used the other styles I don't
 really know.

=(

 The aforementioned bibmod-doc.pdf file by Taco is the best
 documentation I've found, though it's a little out of date. But it's
 worth reading to get the idea of how ConTeXt interacts with BibTeX.

I've read it top to bottom several times now =(

 As you say, discussion is a little scant too. I'm a user with a fairly
 limited understanding of the bibliography system, but I try to do what
 I can with bibliography questions if nobody else is answering.

It's appreciated.

 Here's a sample entry from my PhD bibliography:
 
 % TODO is there a better way to cite a webpage?
 @manual{acton2011zplotit,
   author = {Acton, Gary},
   title = {{ZPLOTIT} Software Users' Guide, version 2011-01},
   year = {2011},
   address =
   {\hyphenatedurl{http://paleomag.ucdavis.edu/software-Zplotit.html}},
   note = {Retrieved 1 February 2011}
 }
 
 ... as the TODO shows, I don't consider this a perfect solution :-).
 With APA style, this produces an acceptable-looking entry, although
 semantically ‘address’ is probably the wrong key for the URL.

Perhaps, but you just gave me a great idea.

 \hyphenatedurl allows the url to be split nicely, but doesn't make it
 clickable; for that the tricks detailed at
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/url should work. I'd guess that
 something like
 
   address = {\useURL[dummy][http://www.example.com]\from[dummy]}
 
 should make a clickable bibliography URL.

See I totally forgot that it's basically copying the values of the tags
directly into the bbl file which is already ConTeXt syntax, so all I
have to do is replace the value of the title tag with the url. Here is
what I did and it works marvellously:

@Misc{asymptotic_notation,
author  = {Walker, Julienne},
month   = {apr},
publisher   = {Eternally Confuzzled},
title   =
{\href{http://www.eternallyconfuzzled.com/arts/jsw_art_bigo.aspx}{Asymptotic 
Notation}},
year= {2012}
}

I've defined \href as such:

\def\href#1#2{\useURL[#2][{#2}][][{#1}]\goto{\url[#2]}[url(#1)]}

It works great and this is what I see:

Walker, Julienne (2012a). Asympt% otic Notation. Eternally Confuzzled.

But why the %  string gets inserted in there I do not know?

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Re: [NTG-context] MLA Bibliography

2012-04-13 Thread Kip Warner
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 06:51 +0200, Philipp Gesang wrote:
  (1) I'd like it such that each time I use \cite, the full citation and
  not just (Some One, 1967) appears in a footnote, rather than inline.
 
 You need to clarify two things here:
 
 1 You want to map the “\cite” macro to something like
   “\footcite”? 

Either by mapping \cite, or by using some other macro, yes.

 Have you tried something along the lines of this
 
 \let \goodoldcite \cite
 \unexpanded\def\cite#1{\footnote{\goodoldcite{#1}}}

Yes, it doesn't work though. All I see are footnotes that contain
(Xx, ). But maybe I am not using it properly. I just use
\cite[reference] and that is what I see.

 2 You want “\cite” to retrieve full citations? Assuming this
   requires that they contain the complete names of authors,
   editors and stuff, you might be out of luck. Last time I
   checked this was impossible to realize within the constraints
   of the bib module:
   http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100212.073108.f4699471.en.html

Ouch. So basically no footnote citations like in most of the books I
read. You'd think there would just be a \cite[everything] option?

 Hth. Anyways, you’re right, the native Context bib support is not
 really fulfilling.

=(

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Re: [NTG-context] Comma separating multiple footnotes

2012-04-13 Thread Kip Warner
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 15:58 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 I wrote a patch for the footnote code where you can set a symbol between the 
 numbers with \setupnote[footnote][textseparator=…] 

Hey Wolfgang. It looks great. I'm assuming I'd stick the following in my
environment file:

\setupnote[footnote][textseparator={,}]

Also, should it have been \setupnote or \setupnotation?

 but it’s decision to include it.

I suppose I could use it for now with the expectation that it will
neither do nor break anything, but that when it is included in the
official distribution, it will work?

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Re: [NTG-context] Index setup

2012-04-13 Thread Jeff Smith
 So basically, I have this:

 \starttext

 \chapter{Ch1}

 \index{abc}abc

 \index{bcd}bcd

 \index{def}def

 \chapter{Ch2}

 \index{wxy}wxy

 \index{xyz}xyz

 \index{zzz}zzz

 \page

 \setupregister[index][indicator=no]
 \placeindex
 \stoptext


 1) I'd like a single list with no blank lines in between letters (I've
 already removed the indicator, but I'm stuck there).

 2) I'm trying to align the pagenumber on the right side of the column.
 Should be easy, but...?!

Nobody has a solution? :-( Are my questions unclear and badly formulated?

JFS
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Re: [NTG-context] MLA Bibliography

2012-04-13 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Hi Kip ...
I had a similar problem with a bibliography. Supervisor of thesis wants 
to have a bibliography in a specific format (sorted AMS like) in which 
it can not produce the ConTeXt.
Maybe this is just because I am a bit stupid and I could not correct the 
bibliography in ConTeXt and run something similar to what I wanted none 
of the conference met, so no one could help me. I finally after many 
hours of experiments on all bibliography resigned and I made myself a 
simple tool for typesetting bibliographies. But it is only a virtue of 
necessity and bibliography entries I we entered all on the line (ie, 
exactly how it should look in the list of bibliography), ie. I do that 
without specifying a style author = someone, title = foo, etc. That is 
to say that if you do not need to have the bibliography in the format in 
which we would expect from BibTeX, so I suggest to do it my way (I mean 
the format of bibliographic entries in text, sorting items, etc..) All 
of this can be done in Lua. In printed form, nobody will know that this 
is actually done manually without BibTeX ...
Originally I thought that I can not do, but eventually everything turned 
out well. It is true that the bibliographic citations in the work is not 
so much (about a hundred).


Good luck.
Jaroslav Hajtmar



Dne 14.4.2012 2:34, Kip Warner napsal(a):

On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 06:51 +0200, Philipp Gesang wrote:
   

(1) I'd like it such that each time I use \cite, the full citation and
not just (Some One, 1967) appears in a footnote, rather than inline.
   

You need to clarify two things here:

1 You want to map the “\cite” macro to something like
   “\footcite”?
 

Either by mapping \cite, or by using some other macro, yes.

   

Have you tried something along the lines of this

 \let \goodoldcite \cite
 \unexpanded\def\cite#1{\footnote{\goodoldcite{#1}}}
 

Yes, it doesn't work though. All I see are footnotes that contain
(Xx, ). But maybe I am not using it properly. I just use
\cite[reference] and that is what I see.

   

2 You want “\cite” to retrieve full citations? Assuming this
   requires that they contain the complete names of authors,
   editors and stuff, you might be out of luck. Last time I
   checked this was impossible to realize within the constraints
   of the bib module:
   http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100212.073108.f4699471.en.html
 

Ouch. So basically no footnote citations like in most of the books I
read. You'd think there would just be a \cite[everything] option?

   

Hth. Anyways, you’re right, the native Context bib support is not
really fulfilling.
 

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