Re: [NTG-context] Nabla operator appears italic in formula

2013-03-24 Thread Hans Hagen

On 3/23/2013 9:34 PM, Xenia wrote:

Dear context list,

using the nabla symbol ∇ in formulas, I wondered why it looks italic and
not upright as for example in [1].
I attach an example.


Because that's how it's defined in math italics ... is nabla always 
supposed to be upright in standard math italic mode?


(I'll change the \nable definition to \unexpanded\def\nabla{∇}.)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Nabla operator appears italic in formula

2013-03-24 Thread Otared Kavian

On 24 mars 2013, at 11:24, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 3/23/2013 9:34 PM, Xenia wrote:
 Dear context list,
 
 using the nabla symbol ∇ in formulas, I wondered why it looks italic and
 not upright as for example in [1].
 I attach an example.
 
 Because that's how it's defined in math italics ... is nabla always supposed 
 to be upright in standard math italic mode?
 
 (I'll change the \nable definition to \unexpanded\def\nabla{∇}.)
 
 Hans

Hi, 

\nabla should be italic if all other math greek symbols, like \Omega, \Gamma, 
\sum, ect are set in italic. Otherwise \nabla and all such symbols should be 
upright.
Would it be possible to make this optional in math italics, something like
\setupmathematics[mathsymbols=italic]
or 
\setupmathematics[mathsymbols=upright]
Maybe this should be set when one chooses the greek letters to be italic or 
upright in mathematics.

Best regards: OK
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[NTG-context] A thinner hrule for headers

2013-03-24 Thread Thomas Kreuzer

Hello everyone,

I'd like to know if it is possible to get a thinner hrule in headers (mkiv).

Right now I am using

\setupheader[after=\hrule]

replacing hrule with thinrule or hairline results in space below the 
header text and the line, and the line actually spans two lines.


How can I control the thickness of the line, I remember having read 
something about using frames, but I can't find the post anymore.


Thanks in advance, and regards,
Thomas

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Re: [NTG-context] Nabla operator appears italic in formula

2013-03-24 Thread Hans Hagen

On 3/24/2013 12:23 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:


On 24 mars 2013, at 11:24, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:


On 3/23/2013 9:34 PM, Xenia wrote:

Dear context list,

using the nabla symbol ∇ in formulas, I wondered why it looks italic and
not upright as for example in [1].
I attach an example.


Because that's how it's defined in math italics ... is nabla always supposed to 
be upright in standard math italic mode?

(I'll change the \nable definition to \unexpanded\def\nabla{∇}.)

Hans


Hi,

\nabla should be italic if all other math greek symbols, like \Omega, \Gamma, 
\sum, ect are set in italic. Otherwise \nabla and all such symbols should be 
upright.
Would it be possible to make this optional in math italics, something like
\setupmathematics[mathsymbols=italic]
or
\setupmathematics[mathsymbols=upright]
Maybe this should be set when one chooses the greek letters to be italic or 
upright in mathematics.


That is already there

\setupmathematics
  [lcgreek=italic,
   ucgreek=normal]

(normal, italic, none)

I've added sygreek so that one can also influence the nable and 
differential (default normal). I tested with:


\starttext
\startTEXpage
\startlines
\type{--}: \mathematics{\nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
\type{it}: \mathematics{\it \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
\type{bf}: \mathematics{\bf \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
\type{bi}: \mathematics{\bi \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
\type{tf}: \mathematics{\tf \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
\blank
\type{--}: \mathematics{\mathgreekupright \nabla \phi = 
∇ ϕ = 0}
\type{it}: \mathematics{\it \mathgreekupright \nabla \phi = 
∇ ϕ = 0}
\type{bf}: \mathematics{\bf \mathgreekupright \nabla \phi = 
∇ ϕ = 0}
\type{bi}: \mathematics{\bi \mathgreekupright \nabla \phi = 
∇ ϕ = 0}
\type{tf}: \mathematics{\tf \mathgreekupright \nabla \phi = 
∇ ϕ = 0}

\blank
\setupmathematics[sygreek=italic]
\type{--}: \mathematics{\nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
\type{it}: \mathematics{\it \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
\type{bf}: \mathematics{\bf \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
\type{bi}: \mathematics{\bi \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
\type{tf}: \mathematics{\tf \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
\stoplines
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext


Hans


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[NTG-context] setupquotation and setupquote

2013-03-24 Thread Alan BRASLAU
Hello,

quotation is linked to quote. Indeed, we have in typo-del.mkiv

\definedelimitedtext
  [\v!quote][\v!quotation]


However, when the user then changes options using \setupquotation,
\startquote\stopquote also gets modified. In the minimal example below,
it is necessary to uncomment \setupquote in order to restore normal
quote text. I believe that this to be a bug (and not a feature).


\setupquotation [style=slanted]
%\setupquote [style=normal]

\starttext

Tufte:
\startquotation
\input tufte
\stopquotation

Ward:
\startquote
\input ward
\stopquote

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] A thinner hrule for headers

2013-03-24 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia 2013-03-24, o godz. 13:32:28
Thomas Kreuzer thomas.kreu...@rwth-aachen.de napisał(a):

 Hello everyone,
 
 I'd like to know if it is possible to get a thinner hrule in headers
 (mkiv).
 
 Right now I am using
 
 \setupheader[after=\hrule]

If this \hrule is TeX's primitive \hrule, then you can (maybe) type
[after={\hrule height 0.4pt\relax}] for the default (and change the
height for other dimensions).

That said, this is a low-level hack and not very ConTeXt-y (even if it
works, which I don't know.)

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University
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Re: [NTG-context] Nabla operator appears italic in formula

2013-03-24 Thread Xenia
On 24.03.2013 15:17, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 3/24/2013 12:23 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

 On 24 mars 2013, at 11:24, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 3/23/2013 9:34 PM, Xenia wrote:
 Dear context list,

 using the nabla symbol ∇ in formulas, I wondered why it looks italic
 and
 not upright as for example in [1].
 I attach an example.

 Because that's how it's defined in math italics ... is nabla always
 supposed to be upright in standard math italic mode?

 (I'll change the \nable definition to \unexpanded\def\nabla{∇}.)

 Hans

 Hi,

 \nabla should be italic if all other math greek symbols, like \Omega,
 \Gamma, \sum, ect are set in italic. Otherwise \nabla and all such
 symbols should be upright.
 Would it be possible to make this optional in math italics, something
 like
 \setupmathematics[mathsymbols=italic]
 or
 \setupmathematics[mathsymbols=upright]
 Maybe this should be set when one chooses the greek letters to be
 italic or upright in mathematics.
 
 That is already there
 
 \setupmathematics
   [lcgreek=italic,
ucgreek=normal]
 
 (normal, italic, none)
 
 I've added sygreek so that one can also influence the nable and
 differential (default normal). I tested with:
 
 \starttext
 \startTEXpage
 \startlines
 \type{--}: \mathematics{\nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \type{it}: \mathematics{\it \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \type{bf}: \mathematics{\bf \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \type{bi}: \mathematics{\bi \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \type{tf}: \mathematics{\tf \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \blank
 \type{--}: \mathematics{\mathgreekupright \nabla \phi =
 ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \type{it}: \mathematics{\it \mathgreekupright \nabla \phi =
 ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \type{bf}: \mathematics{\bf \mathgreekupright \nabla \phi =
 ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \type{bi}: \mathematics{\bi \mathgreekupright \nabla \phi =
 ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \type{tf}: \mathematics{\tf \mathgreekupright \nabla \phi =
 ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \blank
 \setupmathematics[sygreek=italic]
 \type{--}: \mathematics{\nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \type{it}: \mathematics{\it \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \type{bf}: \mathematics{\bf \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \type{bi}: \mathematics{\bi \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \type{tf}: \mathematics{\tf \nabla \phi = ∇ ϕ = 0}
 \stoplines
 \stopTEXpage
 \stoptext

Great, thank you!
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Re: [NTG-context] A thinner hrule for headers

2013-03-24 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi,

Maybe you need something like \hairline:

\setupthinrules[height=.1pt,depth=.1pt]
\setupheader[after=\hairline]

You can also enclose your header in a \framed commande, such as
\framed[frame=off,bottomframe=on]

Best regards: OK

On 24 mars 2013, at 13:32, Thomas Kreuzer thomas.kreu...@rwth-aachen.de wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 I'd like to know if it is possible to get a thinner hrule in headers (mkiv).
 
 Right now I am using
 
 \setupheader[after=\hrule]
 
 replacing hrule with thinrule or hairline results in space below the header 
 text and the line, and the line actually spans two lines.
 
 How can I control the thickness of the line, I remember having read something 
 about using frames, but I can't find the post anymore.
 
 Thanks in advance, and regards,
 Thomas
 
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Re: [NTG-context] A thinner hrule for headers

2013-03-24 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013, Otared Kavian wrote:


You can also enclose your header in a \framed commande, such as
\framed[frame=off,bottomframe=on]


A header is already enclosed in a frame! Something like

\setupbackgrounds[header][text][bottomframe=on, framethickness=0.4pt]

should work.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] A thinner hrule for headers

2013-03-24 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Aditya,

Yes indeed you are right… 
\setupbackgrounds[header][text][bottomframe=on, framethickness=0.4pt]
works fine but then the ruler of the bottomframe is too close to the text.
Since Thomas Kreuzer did not provide a minimal example, it is not clear what he 
wants exactly.

Best regards: OK

On 24 mars 2013, at 21:35, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:

 On Sun, 24 Mar 2013, Otared Kavian wrote:
 
 You can also enclose your header in a \framed commande, such as
  \framed[frame=off,bottomframe=on]
 
 A header is already enclosed in a frame! Something like
 
 \setupbackgrounds[header][text][bottomframe=on, framethickness=0.4pt]
 
 should work.
 
 Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] command reference

2013-03-24 Thread Sietse Brouwer
Sietse wrote:
 NB1: I waffled a lot about wiki templates in the previous e-mail, but
 of course it is also an option to use the Lua tables format and store
 those files on the wiki. That gives us the visibility and editability
 of the wiki without binding us to the wiki template format.

Hans wrote:
 isn't wikimedia lua aware nowadays?

Hah, so it is — I didn't know that. That sounds like it might be an
ideal fit at least for displaying the command reference, possibly also
for storing its info. In case anyone else is curious: here are some
useful pages I found. (The information was a bit scattered sometimes,
but this set of pages covers most bases.)

--Sietse

Wikipedia's main page on the Lua extension:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lua

Good example template:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:BananasArgs

The reference manual:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension%3AScribunto/Lua_reference_manual

The extension's page:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto

Some discussion on using Lua databases:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-February/066656.html
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