[NTG-context] outer floats on doublesided pages
Dear all,
I have problems with the placement of floats. I need them to be placed in the
outer edge of the text, but Context puts them in the middle of the page. The
outer, inner, outeredge, inneredge, commands do not work. Right and left do
work.
Preferably the criterium option should also work, e.g. criterium=0.67.
A minimal test file is attached. Try it out with a dummy, or with cow picture,
or with any other picture of your liking.
I updated my context installation today to a bèta version. The version is:
2013.08.30 02.05.
All help is welcome!
Many thanks in advance,
Robert
tmp1.tex
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\setuppapersize[A4][A4]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided,location=footer]
\definefloat[edgefigure][figure]
\setupfloat
[edgefigure]
[leftmargindistance=-\outercombitotal,
rightmargindistance=-\outercombitotal,
default={outer,none,low,high}]
\setupcaption[edgefigure][number=no]
\useexternalfigure[cow][./cow.pdf]
\starttext
\startsection[title={insight},reference=insight]
\placeedgefigure[][]{}{\framed[frame=off]{\externalfigure[cow][scale=150]}}
When the first volume of Donald Knuth's The Art of Computer Programming was
published in 1969, it was typeset using hot metal type set by a Monotype
Corporation typecaster with a hot metal typesetting machine from the 19th
century which produced a good classic style appreciated by Knuth. When the
second edition of the second volume was published, in 1976, the whole book had
to be typeset again because the Monotype technology had been largely replaced
by photographic techniques, and the original fonts were no longer available.[4]
When Knuth received the galley proofs of the new book on 30 March 1977, he
found them awful.[5] Around that time, Knuth saw for the first time the output
of a high-quality digital typesetting system, and became interested in digital
typography. The disappointing galley proofs gave him the final motivation to
solve the problem at hand once and for all by designing his own typesetting
system. On 13 May 1977, he wrote a memo to himself describing the basic
features of TeX.[6]
\placeedgefigure[][]{}{\framed[frame=off]{\externalfigure[cow][scale=150]}}
He planned to finish it on his sabbatical in 1978, but as it happened the
language was not frozen until 1989, more than ten years later. Guy Steele
happened to be at Stanford during the summer of 1978, when Knuth was developing
his first version of TeX. When Steele returned to MIT that autumn, he rewrote
TeX's I/O to run under the ITS operating system. The first version of TeX was
written in the SAIL programming language to run on a PDP-10 under Stanford's
WAITS operating system. For later versions of TeX, Knuth invented the concept
of literate programming, a way of producing compilable source code and
cross-linked documentation typeset in TeX from the same original file. The
language used is called WEB and produces programs in DEC PDP-10 Pascal.
\placeedgefigure[][]{}{\framed[frame=off]{\externalfigure[cow][scale=150]}}
When the first volume of Donald Knuth's The Art of Computer Programming was
published in 1969, it was typeset using hot metal type set by a Monotype
Corporation typecaster with a hot metal typesetting machine from the 19th
century which produced a good classic style appreciated by Knuth. When the
second edition of the second volume was published, in 1976, the whole book had
to be typeset again because the Monotype technology had been largely replaced
by photographic techniques, and the original fonts were no longer available.[4]
When Knuth received the galley proofs of the new book on 30 March 1977, he
found them awful.[5] Around that time, Knuth saw for the first time the output
of a high-quality digital typesetting system, and became interested in digital
typography. The disappointing galley proofs gave him the final motivation to
solve the problem at hand once and for all by designing his own typesetting
system. On 13 May 1977, he wrote a memo to himself describing the basic
features of TeX.[6]
He planned to finish it on his sabbatical in 1978, but as it happened the
language was not frozen until 1989, more than ten years later. Guy Steele
happened to be at Stanford during the summer of 1978, when Knuth was developing
his first version of TeX. When Steele returned to MIT that autumn, he rewrote
TeX's I/O to run under the ITS operating system. The first version of TeX was
written in the SAIL programming language to run on a PDP-10 under Stanford's
WAITS operating system. For later versions of TeX, Knuth invented the concept
of literate programming, a way of producing compilable source code and
cross-linked documentation typeset in TeX from the same original file. The
language used is called WEB and produces programs in DEC PDP-10 Pascal.
\stopsection
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] repost add bib category?
I am reposting this, because I did not see someone reply. Is there anyone who
can help me out?
Thanks in advance.
Hans van der Meer
On 6 sep. 2013, at 09:36, Meer, H. van der
h.vanderm...@uva.nlmailto:h.vanderm...@uva.nl wrote:
I am in need of a reference to a bachelor thesis but the file bxml-apa.mkiv
only provides phdthesis as a possibility. Adding the following code to
bxml-apa.mkiv doesn't work or is not enough to add the bachelorthesis as an
extra.
I did search for phdthesis in the ConTeXt base files and was found once: in
the bxml-apa.mkiv file.
How to?
\startxmlsetups bibtex:apa:bachelorthesis
\setvariables[bibtex:temp][label=Bachelor thesis]
\bibxmlsetup{bibtex:apa:common:thesis}
\stopxmlsetups
used in the .bib file as:
@bachelorthesis{rijneveld:13,
Author = {A. Author},
School = {Excellent University},
Title = {{How the Dutch.}},
Year = {2013}}
Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] outer floats on doublesided pages
On 2013–09–10 R. Ermers wrote:
I have problems with the placement of floats. I need them to be
placed in the outer edge of the text, but Context puts them in the
middle of the page. The outer, inner, outeredge, inneredge,
commands do not work. Right and left do work.
You probably confused edge and margin. By default the edge has zero
width and has to be enabled using \setuplayout.
Preferably the criterium option should also work
\setupexternalfigures
[location=default]
\setuppagenumbering
[alternative=doublesided]
\definefloat
[marginfigure]
[marginfigures]
[figure]
\setupfloat
[marginfigure]
[default=margin,
criterium=\marginwidth]
\setupcaption
[marginfigure]
[number=no]
\showframe
\starttext
\dorecurse{9}{%%
\input knuth
\startplacemarginfigure
\externalfigure [cow] [width=\recurselevel cm]
\stopplacemarginfigure}
\stoptext
Marco
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[NTG-context] extra - in reference
Doing \in{Figure}[fig:figname] neatly typesets for example: figure 1.4
Defined as: \startplacefigure[title=figure-title,reference=fig:figname]
But if I define:\startchapter[title=chapter-title,reference=chap:chapname]
Then \in{Chapter}[chap:chapname] produces: chapter 6 -
Thus an extra space + minus sign + space are put behind the chapter reference.
This is annoying, because I would like my chapter reference to be chapter 6
without any additions. Besides, the figure reference and chapter reference
behave differently, an unexpected phenomenon.
It seems the \startchapter defines a reference different from the reference in
\startplacefigure.
Is this difference in behaviour intentional? Is it a bug? How can I revert my
chapter references to the form without the trailing characters?
Thanks in advance
Hans van der Meer
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[NTG-context] [***SPAM***] \part without adding partnumber to other headers
I want to use \part without the number of the part as a piece of the
headnumbers (of chapter, section, subsection ).
E.g.:
\part{One}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
\part{Two}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
gives this compile:
1.1 Chapter
1.1.1 Section
2.1 Chapter
2.1.1 Section
But I only want:
1 Chapter
1.1 Section
1 Chapter
1.1 Section
(because the number of the current part is already written in the
header). So actually, I want to use \part as a resetter of the
headnumbers. Is that possible?
Huseyin
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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] \part without adding partnumber to other headers
Am 10.09.2013 um 11:10 schrieb H. Özoguz h.oezo...@mmnetz.de:
I want to use \part without the number of the part as a piece of the
headnumbers (of chapter, section, subsection ).
E.g.:
\part{One}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
\part{Two}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
gives this compile:
1.1 Chapter
1.1.1 Section
2.1 Chapter
2.1.1 Section
But I only want:
1 Chapter
1.1 Section
1 Chapter
1.1 Section
(because the number of the current part is already written in the header). So
actually, I want to use \part as a resetter of the headnumbers. Is that
possible?
\setuphead[sectionsegments=2:*]
\setuphead[part][placehead=hidden]
\starttext
\part{One}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
\part{Two}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] \part without adding partnumber to other headers
To all:
The (strange) default handling of part is a continual source of
confusion to users...
Alan
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:21:39 +0200
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 10.09.2013 um 11:10 schrieb H. Özoguz h.oezo...@mmnetz.de:
I want to use \part without the number of the part as a piece of
the headnumbers (of chapter, section, subsection ).
E.g.:
\part{One}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
\part{Two}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
gives this compile:
1.1 Chapter
1.1.1 Section
2.1 Chapter
2.1.1 Section
But I only want:
1 Chapter
1.1 Section
1 Chapter
1.1 Section
(because the number of the current part is already written in the
header). So actually, I want to use \part as a resetter of the
headnumbers. Is that possible?
\setuphead[sectionsegments=2:*]
\setuphead[part][placehead=hidden]
\starttext
\part{One}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
\part{Two}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] \part without adding partnumber to other headers
\setuphead[sectionsegments=2:*]
\setuphead[part][placehead=hidden]
\starttext
\part{One}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
\part{Two}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
That gives this compile:
1.1 Chapter
1 Section
1 Chapter
1.1 Section
That is not what I intended. (btw.: I do not understand, what happens
here...) The second chapter and section is ok, but what happended to the
first ones?
Huseyin
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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] \part without adding partnumber to other headers
Am 10.09.2013 um 11:38 schrieb H. Özoguz h.oezo...@mmnetz.de:
\setuphead[sectionsegments=2:*]
\setuphead[part][placehead=hidden]
\starttext
\part{One}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
\part{Two}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
That gives this compile:
1.1 Chapter
1 Section
1 Chapter
1.1 Section
That is not what I intended. (btw.: I do not understand, what happens
here...) The second chapter and section is ok, but what happended to the
first ones?
It works when you remove the part setup or when you change the placehead
setting to yes, no or empty.
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] How to typeset two columns with longer text
Hello, suppose we need to typeset text into two (generally: several) columns. Depending on the length of the text in the first (generally: i-th) column we need to choose an alternative: 1) Short-text Some-text-in-the-second-column Another-text Some-other-text or: 2) Very-long-text-in-the-1st-column Some-text-in-the-second-column Another-text Some-other-text So, when the text in the first (or i-th resp.) column is too long, we need to go to the next row (generally: leaving all remaining columns empty) and skip the first column (generally: all columns being too long so far) automatically. Is there a way how to achieve this automatically, without manual check? (Suppose typesetting columns with \tabulate command(s) with width of the first column specified, like |lw(2in)|p|.) Thanks in advance. Best regards, Lukas -- Ing. Lukáš Procházka [mailto:l...@pontex.cz] Pontex s. r. o. [mailto:pon...@pontex.cz] [http://www.pontex.cz] Bezová 1658 147 14 Praha 4 Tel: +420 244 062 238 Fax: +420 244 461 038 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] extra - in reference
Culprit found by experimenting with your example that indeed is correct.
The problem is in the sectionstopper in the setup:
\setuphead[chapter][sectionstopper={ – }]
This sectionstopper inserts something between chapter marker and chapter title:
Chapter 1 – Chapter title
I didn't expect this sectionstopper to turn up in the reference to the chapter
number. Can you point out how to suppress the sectionstopper in the references
(if for now) while keeping it between the marker and the title?
And if you are also of the opinion that the sectionstopper shouldn't turn up at
the end of the reference, will this be changed in an upcoming beta?
Hans van der Meer
On 10 sep. 2013, at 11:16, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Am 10.09.2013 um 10:51 schrieb Meer, H. van der h.vanderm...@uva.nl:
Doing \in{Figure}[fig:figname] neatly typesets for example: figure 1.4
Defined as: \startplacefigure[title=figure-title,reference=fig:figname]
But if I define:\startchapter[title=chapter-title,reference=chap:chapname]
Then \in{Chapter}[chap:chapname] produces: chapter 6 -
Thus an extra space + minus sign + space are put behind the chapter
reference.
This is annoying, because I would like my chapter reference to be chapter
6 without any additions. Besides, the figure reference and chapter
reference behave differently, an unexpected phenomenon.
It seems the \startchapter defines a reference different from the reference
in \startplacefigure.
Is this difference in behaviour intentional? Is it a bug? How can I revert
my chapter references to the form without the trailing characters?
Make a minimal example because I can’t reproduce your results.
\useMPlibrary[dum]
\starttext
\startchapter[title=chapter-title,reference=chap:chapname]
\startplacefigure[title=figure-title,reference=fig:figname]
\externalfigure[dummy]
\stopplacefigure
Take a look at \in{Figure}[fig:figname] in \in{Chapter}[chap:chapname].
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] devanagari rendering (2 errors)
On 9/10/2013 6:43 AM, Peter Graif wrote:
Can you make a as-small-as-possible test file?
Preferable with proper utf-8 sequences (+ comment mentioning numbers/classes),
good and wrong.
I can probably figure it out but I cannot read or input easily this kind of
scripts.
Hans
Sure thing. I don't understand how opentype features are represented nor how
the ligature logic is dividd up between the font and the engine, so I'm not
quite sure what information is helpful or relevant. But, here's a minimal
document that contains all the problem sequences I've identified.
As a rough guide, here's another image with the current ConTeXt rendering in
black and the desired rendering in red:
http://i.imgur.com/MyvMneg.png
Is that the information you need? Or is there something else I can do?
it's ok
it took me quite a while to notice that it's a side effect of two
features that are turned on
you can play with
\definefontfeature
[devanagari-one]
[devanagari-one]
[rphf=no]
and
\definefontfeature
[devanagari-one]
[devanagari-one]
[half=no]
maybe Kai can have a look at it: as these are dealt with in a different
we probably don't need to enable them in the feature processor (even
block them)
btw, you can play with
\showotfcomposition{file:chandas.ttf*devanagari-one}{l2r}{\char0915
\char094D \char0930}
to see what happens
(i also noticed a few possible further optimizations but that's for later)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] outer floats on doublesided pages
Hi Marco,
Thank you very much indeed for your reply. This topic apparently does not
interest many people.
In your suggestion the figures are put in the outer margin in a vertical row
below one another close to the top of the page, and not near the position in
the text.
I want them positioned close to the place in the text which should flow around
them. I have seen examples of this made by Context. This can be obtained by
specifying default=left, or default=right, only I need the figures to protrude
into the (outer) margin. This for some reason does not work under mkiv.
I still have some time, but my deadline is approaching.
Thanks again!
Kind regards,
Robert
Op 10 sep. 2013, om 09:59 heeft Marco Patzer het volgende geschreven:
On 2013–09–10 R. Ermers wrote:
I have problems with the placement of floats. I need them to be
placed in the outer edge of the text, but Context puts them in the
middle of the page. The outer, inner, outeredge, inneredge,
commands do not work. Right and left do work.
You probably confused edge and margin. By default the edge has zero
width and has to be enabled using \setuplayout.
Preferably the criterium option should also work
\setupexternalfigures
[location=default]
\setuppagenumbering
[alternative=doublesided]
\definefloat
[marginfigure]
[marginfigures]
[figure]
\setupfloat
[marginfigure]
[default=margin,
criterium=\marginwidth]
\setupcaption
[marginfigure]
[number=no]
\showframe
\starttext
\dorecurse{9}{%%
\input knuth
\startplacemarginfigure
\externalfigure [cow] [width=\recurselevel cm]
\stopplacemarginfigure}
\stoptext
Marco
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[NTG-context] wrong behaviour with ConTeXt unicode bidi
Hi The following document shows the wrong behaviour (the second parentheses is mirrored incorrectly and it should be after the number not before the number). Assuming test is an RTL word when I write (test 1363) I expect to get exactly that but somehow I get (test (1363 One related question: is it possible to change font automatically when luatex sees a LTR word? Thanks Vafa Khalighi test.tex Description: TeX document test.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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Re: [NTG-context] outer floats on doublesided pages
On 2013–09–10 R. Ermers wrote: I want them positioned close to the place in the text which should flow around them. I have seen examples of this made by Context. This can be obtained by specifying default=left, or default=right, only I need the figures to protrude into the (outer) margin. I misunderstood your requirements. That's not what my example was supposed to do. This for some reason does not work under mkiv. Confirmed. And I don't know if it has ever worked in MkIV. Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] outer floats on doublesided pages
Maybe what I did helps: see Figures III on
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Biochemistry_textbook. Although I used
mkII at the time.
Cheers, Jörg
R. Ermers writes:
Hi Marco,
Thank you very much indeed for your reply. This topic apparently does not
interest many people.
In your suggestion the figures are put in the outer margin in a vertical row
below one another close to the top of the page, and not near the position in
the text.
I want them positioned close to the place in the text which should flow
around them. I have seen examples of this made by Context. This can be
obtained by specifying default=left, or default=right, only I need the
figures to protrude into the (outer) margin. This for some reason does not
work under mkiv.
I still have some time, but my deadline is approaching.
Thanks again!
Kind regards,
Robert
Op 10 sep. 2013, om 09:59 heeft Marco Patzer het volgende geschreven:
On 2013–09–10 R. Ermers wrote:
I have problems with the placement of floats. I need them to be
placed in the outer edge of the text, but Context puts them in the
middle of the page. The outer, inner, outeredge, inneredge,
commands do not work. Right and left do work.
You probably confused edge and margin. By default the edge has zero
width and has to be enabled using \setuplayout.
Preferably the criterium option should also work
\setupexternalfigures
[location=default]
\setuppagenumbering
[alternative=doublesided]
\definefloat
[marginfigure]
[marginfigures]
[figure]
\setupfloat
[marginfigure]
[default=margin,
criterium=\marginwidth]
\setupcaption
[marginfigure]
[number=no]
\showframe
\starttext
\dorecurse{9}{%%
\input knuth
\startplacemarginfigure
\externalfigure [cow] [width=\recurselevel cm]
\stopplacemarginfigure}
\stoptext
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] outer floats on doublesided pages
Hi Jörg and Marco,
Thanks for your replies.
I have tried the chemistry textbook examples too, especially vignette seems to
do what I want. I noticed you used mkii at the time, but I have mkiv now.
Should I return to mkii if I want to obtain this?
Regards,
Robert
Op 10 sep. 2013, om 15:18 heeft Jörg Hagmann het volgende geschreven:
Maybe what I did helps: see Figures III on
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Biochemistry_textbook. Although I used
mkII at the time.
Cheers, Jörg
R. Ermers writes:
Hi Marco,
Thank you very much indeed for your reply. This topic apparently does not
interest many people.
In your suggestion the figures are put in the outer margin in a vertical row
below one another close to the top of the page, and not near the position in
the text.
I want them positioned close to the place in the text which should flow
around them. I have seen examples of this made by Context. This can be
obtained by specifying default=left, or default=right, only I need the
figures to protrude into the (outer) margin. This for some reason does not
work under mkiv.
I still have some time, but my deadline is approaching.
Thanks again!
Kind regards,
Robert
Op 10 sep. 2013, om 09:59 heeft Marco Patzer het volgende geschreven:
On 2013–09–10 R. Ermers wrote:
I have problems with the placement of floats. I need them to be
placed in the outer edge of the text, but Context puts them in the
middle of the page. The outer, inner, outeredge, inneredge,
commands do not work. Right and left do work.
You probably confused edge and margin. By default the edge has zero
width and has to be enabled using \setuplayout.
Preferably the criterium option should also work
\setupexternalfigures
[location=default]
\setuppagenumbering
[alternative=doublesided]
\definefloat
[marginfigure]
[marginfigures]
[figure]
\setupfloat
[marginfigure]
[default=margin,
criterium=\marginwidth]
\setupcaption
[marginfigure]
[number=no]
\showframe
\starttext
\dorecurse{9}{%%
\input knuth
\startplacemarginfigure
\externalfigure [cow] [width=\recurselevel cm]
\stopplacemarginfigure}
\stoptext
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] beta
On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 08:01:30PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, I uploaded a beta with additional bidi code. There are now three methods: default : the original one, the fastest, wil be improved a bit one : unicode bidi, derived from khaleds t-bidi, cleaned up and optimized plus some thingies, but in working still close to the original two : unicode bidi, the version that will evolve All methods come with the usual context kind of tracing. Some of these methods have different options (default has local and global behaviour), one has no options, and for two one can disable fancy fences heuristics. More will follow once we have investigated all upcoming changes, circulating wishes, conflicting demands etc. Eventually there will be a manual about these matters. Method two seems to be broken here: error: .../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-dir.lua:151: attempt to call global 'hasbit' (a nil value) Regards, Khaled ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Kashide in ConTeXt
On 9/10/2013 2:59 PM, Vafa Khalighi wrote: Hi How do you use automatic and manual Kashide for Arabic in ConTeXt? I could not find any documentation on this. i have no clue what is it but google relates it to poems so maybe \usemodule[hemistich] is what you want (search the mail archive for usage) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] wrong behaviour with ConTeXt unicode bidi
On 9/10/2013 2:57 PM, Vafa Khalighi wrote: Hi The following document shows the wrong behaviour (the second parentheses is mirrored incorrectly and it should be after the number not before the number). Assuming test is an RTL word when I write (test 1363) I expect to get exactly that but somehow I get (test (1363 new beta ... also with fix for issue khaled mentioned \starttext \setupalign[r2l] \definefont[arabicfont][Arial*arabic at 20pt] \enabletrackers[typesetters.directions.one] \enabletrackers[typesetters.directions.two] \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default] \arabicfont این (یک آزمایش 1363) است. \par \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=one] \arabicfont این (یک آزمایش 1363) است. \par \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=two] \arabicfont این (یک آزمایش 1363) است. \par \stoptext One related question: is it possible to change font automatically when luatex sees a LTR word? no, but you can define start\stop commands that deal with such switches also, you can combine fonts (and there a yet not documented auto script/language switcher .. i have no time now to explain that one) btw, never use \textdir and \pardir directly (i might even define them as no-ops some day) but use the higher level alignment commands Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new mp trickery / next challenge for alan and mari
Indeed a challenge!
Alan
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:11:13 +0200
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
Hi,
There's now a convenient way to pass data back from an mprun to the
tex instance:
\starttext
\startMPcode
passvariable(version,1.0) ;
passvariable(number,123) ;
passvariable(string,whatever) ;
passvariable(point,(1,2)) ;
passvariable(triplet,(1,2,3)) ;
passvariable(quad,(1,2,3,4)) ;
passvariable(boolean,false) ;
passvariable(path,fullcircle scaled 1cm) ;
draw fullcircle scaled 20pt ;
\stopMPcode
\ctxlua{inspect(metapost.variables)}
\ctxcommand{mprunvar(number)}
\ctxcommand{mprunvar(string)}
\stoptext
the inspect shows:
table={
[boolean]=false,
[number]=123,
[path]={
{ 10.02177, 10.02177, 12.67969, 7.36386, 7.36386, 12.67969 },
{ 0, 14.17323, 3.75914, 14.17323, -3.75914, 14.17323 },
{ -10.02177, 10.02177, -7.36386, 12.67969, -12.67969, 7.36386 },
{ -14.17323, 0, -14.17323, 3.75914, -14.17323, -3.75914 },
{ -10.02177, -10.02177, -12.67969, -7.36386, -7.36386, -12.67969 },
{ 0, -14.17323, -3.75914, -14.17323, 3.75914, -14.17323 },
{ 10.02177, -10.02177, 7.36386, -12.67969, 12.67969, -7.36386 },
{ 14.17323, 0, 14.17323, -3.75914, 14.17323, 3.75914 },
},
[point]={ 1, 2 },
[quad]={ 1, 2, 3, 4 },
[string]=whatever,
[triplet]={ 1, 2, 3 },
[version]=1.0,
}
the mprunvar pips a value or concatination to tex
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Re: [NTG-context] devanagari rendering (2 errors)
it took me quite a while to notice that it's a side effect of two features
that are turned on
you can play with
\definefontfeature
[devanagari-one]
[devanagari-one]
[rphf=no]
and
\definefontfeature
[devanagari-one]
[devanagari-one]
[half=no]
maybe Kai can have a look at it: as these are dealt with in a different we
probably don't need to enable them in the feature processor (even block them)
btw, you can play with
\showotfcomposition{file:chandas.ttf*devanagari-one}{l2r}{\char0915
\char094D \char0930}
to see what happens
(i also noticed a few possible further optimizations but that's for later)
Hans
Thanks, Hans.
Those are indeed the relevant features. Unfortunately, turning them off
completely breaks other things. I have attached another demonstration below.
The good news is that we can now produce proper devanagari by switching the
features on and off as needed in the middle of words. I am understanding
OpenType better now and I will try again to look at the relevant source code
tonight.
-Peter
--
\definefontfeature[devyes][devanagari-one][rphf=yes,half=yes]
\definefontfeature[devno][devanagari-one][rphf=no,half=no]
\definefont [DevaWith] [file:chandas.ttf*devyes at 14pt]
\definefont [DevaWithout] [file:chandas.ttf*devno at 14pt]
\starttext
{\bf When rphf=yes (current default)}
r-first conjucts ([r]+[half]+\{consonant\}) work:
{\DevaWith [U+0930 \char0930][U+094D \char094D][U+0915 \char0915]:
\char0930 \char094D \char0915 ~(correct)}
but r-second conjucts (\{consonant\} +[half]+[r]) don't:
{\DevaWith [U+0915 \char0915][U+094D \char094D][U+0930 \char0930]:
\char0915 \char094D \char0930 ~(incorrect)}
\blank[big]
{\bf When rphf=no}
r-first conjucts ([r]+[half]+\{consonant\}) stop working:
{\DevaWithout [U+0930 \char0930][U+094D \char094D][U+0915 \char0915]:
\char0930 \char094D \char0915 ~(incorrect)}
but r-second conjucts (\{consonant\} +[half]+[r]) now work properly:
{\DevaWithout [U+0915 \char0915][U+094D \char094D][U+0930 \char0930]:
\char0915 \char094D \char0930 ~(correct)}
\blank[3*big]
{\bf When half=yes (current default)}
consonant clusters (\{consonant\}+[half]+\{consonant\}) work:
{\DevaWith [U+0915 \char0915][U+094D \char094D][U+0915 \char0915]:
\char0915 \char094D \char0915 ~(correct)}
but word-final viramas (\{consonant\} +[half]) don't:
{\DevaWith [U+0915 \char0915][U+094D \char094D] : \char0915 \char094D
~(incorrect)}
\blank[big]
{\bf When half=no}
consonant clusters (\{consonant\}+[half]+\{consonant\}) stop working:
{\DevaWithout [U+0915 \char0915][U+094D \char094D][U+0915 \char0915]:
\char0915 \char094D \char0915 ~(incorrect)}
but word-final viramas (\{consonant\} +[half]) work properly:
{\DevaWithout [U+0915 \char0915][U+094D \char094D] : \char0915 \char094D
~(correct)}
\blank[2*big]
With careful bracketing, it's possible to produce correct devanagari.
On: {\DevaWith
\char092E\char0915\char094D\char0915\char092E\char0915\char094D} (no
good)
Off: {\DevaWithout
\char092E\char0915\char094D\char0915\char092E\char0915\char094D} (no
good)
Mixed: {\DevaWith
\char092E\char0915\char094D\char0915\char092E{\DevaWithout
\char0915\char094D}} (perfect)
That's not sustainable for long texts, perhaps, but it's a great move in that
direction.
\blank[big]
Note: I've used the consonant [U+0915: {\DevaWith \char0915}] here throughout,
but you can substitute any consonant \{U+0915--U+0939, U+0958--U+095F\} and see
the same patterns.
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] new mp trickery / next challenge for alan and mari
Hi,
There's now a convenient way to pass data back from an mprun to the tex
instance:
\starttext
\startMPcode
passvariable(version,1.0) ;
passvariable(number,123) ;
passvariable(string,whatever) ;
passvariable(point,(1,2)) ;
passvariable(triplet,(1,2,3)) ;
passvariable(quad,(1,2,3,4)) ;
passvariable(boolean,false) ;
passvariable(path,fullcircle scaled 1cm) ;
draw fullcircle scaled 20pt ;
\stopMPcode
\ctxlua{inspect(metapost.variables)}
\ctxcommand{mprunvar(number)}
\ctxcommand{mprunvar(string)}
\stoptext
the inspect shows:
table={
[boolean]=false,
[number]=123,
[path]={
{ 10.02177, 10.02177, 12.67969, 7.36386, 7.36386, 12.67969 },
{ 0, 14.17323, 3.75914, 14.17323, -3.75914, 14.17323 },
{ -10.02177, 10.02177, -7.36386, 12.67969, -12.67969, 7.36386 },
{ -14.17323, 0, -14.17323, 3.75914, -14.17323, -3.75914 },
{ -10.02177, -10.02177, -12.67969, -7.36386, -7.36386, -12.67969 },
{ 0, -14.17323, -3.75914, -14.17323, 3.75914, -14.17323 },
{ 10.02177, -10.02177, 7.36386, -12.67969, 12.67969, -7.36386 },
{ 14.17323, 0, 14.17323, -3.75914, 14.17323, 3.75914 },
},
[point]={ 1, 2 },
[quad]={ 1, 2, 3, 4 },
[string]=whatever,
[triplet]={ 1, 2, 3 },
[version]=1.0,
}
the mprunvar pips a value or concatination to tex
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[NTG-context] outer floats on doublesided pages UNSOLVED
Hi,
Does anyone know if positioning figures protruding into the outer margin can
be done in mkiv?
Regards,
Robert
Hi Jörg and Marco,
Thanks for your replies.
I have tried the chemistry textbook examples too, especially vignette seems
to do what I want. I noticed you used mkii at the time, but I have mkiv now.
Should I return to mkii if I want to obtain this?
Regards,
Robert
Op 10 sep. 2013, om 15:18 heeft Jörg Hagmann het volgende geschreven:
Maybe what I did helps: see Figures III on
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Biochemistry_textbook. Although I used
mkII at the time.
Cheers, Jörg
R. Ermers writes:
Hi Marco,
Thank you very much indeed for your reply. This topic apparently does not
interest many people.
In your suggestion the figures are put in the outer margin in a vertical
row below one another close to the top of the page, and not near the
position in the text.
I want them positioned close to the place in the text which should flow
around them. I have seen examples of this made by Context. This can be
obtained by specifying default=left, or default=right, only I need the
figures to protrude into the (outer) margin. This for some reason does not
work under mkiv.
I still have some time, but my deadline is approaching.
Thanks again!
Kind regards,
Robert
Op 10 sep. 2013, om 09:59 heeft Marco Patzer het volgende geschreven:
On 2013–09–10 R. Ermers wrote:
I have problems with the placement of floats. I need them to be
placed in the outer edge of the text, but Context puts them in the
middle of the page. The outer, inner, outeredge, inneredge,
commands do not work. Right and left do work.
You probably confused edge and margin. By default the edge has zero
width and has to be enabled using \setuplayout.
Preferably the criterium option should also work
\setupexternalfigures
[location=default]
\setuppagenumbering
[alternative=doublesided]
\definefloat
[marginfigure]
[marginfigures]
[figure]
\setupfloat
[marginfigure]
[default=margin,
criterium=\marginwidth]
\setupcaption
[marginfigure]
[number=no]
\showframe
\starttext
\dorecurse{9}{%%
\input knuth
\startplacemarginfigure
\externalfigure [cow] [width=\recurselevel cm]
\stopplacemarginfigure}
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Gray unit
Hello
the physical unit Gray has Gy as symbol (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_(unit) ).
Context returns Gr.
MWE:
\starttext
\unit{1 Gray}
\stoptext
Thanks for fixing this little bug.
Christian
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Re: [NTG-context] beta
On 9/10/2013 3:50 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 08:01:30PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, I uploaded a beta with additional bidi code. There are now three methods: default : the original one, the fastest, wil be improved a bit one : unicode bidi, derived from khaleds t-bidi, cleaned up and optimized plus some thingies, but in working still close to the original two : unicode bidi, the version that will evolve All methods come with the usual context kind of tracing. Some of these methods have different options (default has local and global behaviour), one has no options, and for two one can disable fancy fences heuristics. More will follow once we have investigated all upcoming changes, circulating wishes, conflicting demands etc. Eventually there will be a manual about these matters. Method two seems to be broken here: error: .../context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/typo-dir.lua:151: attempt to call global 'hasbit' (a nil value) ok, i'll fix it .. (it went unnoticed because i ran experimental faster code here) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Kashide in ConTeXt
it is about stretching words. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 9/10/2013 2:59 PM, Vafa Khalighi wrote: Hi How do you use automatic and manual Kashide for Arabic in ConTeXt? I could not find any documentation on this. i have no clue what is it but google relates it to poems so maybe \usemodule[hemistich] is what you want (search the mail archive for usage) Hans --**--**- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl --**--**- __**__** ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/** listinfo/ntg-context http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/**projects/contextrev/http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __**__** ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] wrong behaviour with ConTeXt unicode bidi
Sorry that is not fixed. If you type two of these, the second one will be broken. \starttext \setupalign[r2l] \definefont[arabicfont][Arial*arabic at 20pt] \setupdirections[bidi=global,method=default] \arabicfont این (آزمایش 1363) و یک (آزمایش 1984) خوب است و باقی ماجرا. \stoptext Vafa Khalighi On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Vafa Khalighi persian-...@tug.org wrote: Thanks. That is now fixed. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 9/10/2013 2:57 PM, Vafa Khalighi wrote: Hi The following document shows the wrong behaviour (the second parentheses is mirrored incorrectly and it should be after the number not before the number). Assuming test is an RTL word when I write (test 1363) I expect to get exactly that but somehow I get (test (1363 new beta ... also with fix for issue khaled mentioned \starttext \setupalign[r2l] \definefont[arabicfont][Arial***arabic at 20pt] \enabletrackers[typesetters.**directions.one] \enabletrackers[typesetters.**directions.two] \setupdirections[bidi=global,**method=default] \arabicfont این (یک آزمایش 1363) است. \par \setupdirections[bidi=global,**method=one] \arabicfont این (یک آزمایش 1363) است. \par \setupdirections[bidi=global,**method=two] \arabicfont این (یک آزمایش 1363) است. \par \stoptext One related question: is it possible to change font automatically when luatex sees a LTR word? no, but you can define start\stop commands that deal with such switches also, you can combine fonts (and there a yet not documented auto script/language switcher .. i have no time now to explain that one) btw, never use \textdir and \pardir directly (i might even define them as no-ops some day) but use the higher level alignment commands Hans --**--**- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl --**--**- __**__** ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/** listinfo/ntg-context http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/**projects/contextrev/http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __**__** ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] wrong behaviour with ConTeXt unicode bidi
Thanks. That is now fixed. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 9/10/2013 2:57 PM, Vafa Khalighi wrote: Hi The following document shows the wrong behaviour (the second parentheses is mirrored incorrectly and it should be after the number not before the number). Assuming test is an RTL word when I write (test 1363) I expect to get exactly that but somehow I get (test (1363 new beta ... also with fix for issue khaled mentioned \starttext \setupalign[r2l] \definefont[arabicfont][Arial***arabic at 20pt] \enabletrackers[typesetters.**directions.one] \enabletrackers[typesetters.**directions.two] \setupdirections[bidi=global,**method=default] \arabicfont این (یک آزمایش 1363) است. \par \setupdirections[bidi=global,**method=one] \arabicfont این (یک آزمایش 1363) است. \par \setupdirections[bidi=global,**method=two] \arabicfont این (یک آزمایش 1363) است. \par \stoptext One related question: is it possible to change font automatically when luatex sees a LTR word? no, but you can define start\stop commands that deal with such switches also, you can combine fonts (and there a yet not documented auto script/language switcher .. i have no time now to explain that one) btw, never use \textdir and \pardir directly (i might even define them as no-ops some day) but use the higher level alignment commands Hans --**--**- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl --**--**- __**__** ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/** listinfo/ntg-context http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/**projects/contextrev/http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __**__** ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] devanagari rendering (2 errors)
Hi Hans,
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
it took me quite a while to notice that it's a side effect of two features
that are turned on
you can play with
\definefontfeature
[devanagari-one]
[devanagari-one]
[rphf=no]
and
\definefontfeature
[devanagari-one]
[devanagari-one]
[half=no]
maybe Kai can have a look at it: as these are dealt with in a different we
probably don't need to enable them in the feature processor (even block
them)
As far as I understand, 'rphf' and 'half' forms are essential for
Devanagari, so skipping them completely might not be a good idea...
btw, you can play with
\showotfcomposition{file:chandas.ttf*devanagari-one}{l2r}{\char0915
\char094D \char0930}
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Cheers,
Rajeesh
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