Re: [NTG-context] mtx-context - extraordinarily quiet mode
On 9/29/2013 2:43 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Sat, 28 Sep 2013, Thangalin wrote: Hi, I ran the following: context --noconsole --batchmode --nonstopmode filename.tex This wrote information to the console: This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.76.0-2013040516 (rev 4627) \write18 enabled. Underfull \hbox (badness 2401) in paragraph at lines 464--464 ... lots more output ... system | total runtime: 1.962 How do you prevent ConTeXt from writing anything whatsoever to the console? context --batchmode filename /dev/null :-) \dontcomplain also helps - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mtx-context - extraordinarily quiet mode
On 9/29/2013 6:15 AM, Thangalin wrote: Thank you, Aditya. I should have mentioned that I was thinking about it in terms of optimization. Sometimes when a program's debug/logging mode is disabled, the program executes faster. (In the old days just writing to standard out was enough to make a program grind to a crawl.) I could not find a wiki page on optimizing the compiler -- are there any other tricks to making compiles faster? batchmode can make run tex a bit faster logging itself is already quite efficient in context (the speed of consoles / terminals is a factor but normally one can set up that bit to be efficient as well - refresh delays and such) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Transparency and ConTeXt
On 9/29/2013 6:59 AM, Thangalin wrote:
Hi,
I have written up a question on TeX.SE:
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/135543/pdf-colour-space-and-context
Aditya mentioned that the problem with transparencies is that it is
likely a known bug with Adobe Acrobat Reader: I remember similar
questions being asked in the past, and the conclusion was that it was
a known bug in Adobe Reader.
Has anyone else come across this issue and found a way to resolve it in ConTeXt?
I ran into what I think is a similar issue with LaTeX and was able to
resolve it using the following command in the preamble:
\pdfpageattr{/Group /S /Transparency /I true /CS /DeviceRGB}
I have not yet tried to reproduce the problem in either LuaLaTeX or LaTeX.
\setupcolors[pagecolormodel=auto]
might help
in acrobat, when transparency is used, a different route is followed (at
least in the past) when rendering
also, rendering colorspaces might be adapted to the output medium so
it's a combination of colorspace, monitor/paper, calibration,
knockout/overprint, transparency groups, assumptions etc
in the end, a print on a proper device is the reference
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Transparency and ConTeXt
2013/9/29 Thangalin thanga...@gmail.com:
I ran into what I think is a similar issue with LaTeX and was able to
resolve it using the following command in the preamble:
\pdfpageattr{/Group /S /Transparency /I true /CS /DeviceRGB}
This should be done automagically in pdfTeX (at least it once was).
Best
Martin
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[NTG-context] Feedback wanted on a ConTeXt tutorial
Hello! Inspired by some informal discussions at the recent ConTeXt meeting I started to write a *really* basic ConTeXt tutorial. However, before I get further than the first six chapters, I'd like to get feedback on it, especially on the content, but also on the layout. The file is (at least temporarily) available at http://www.lucet.fi/pdfs/ctxbasics.pdf. I know already that there are a few things missing in the existing chapters, but I'd like to know if the document is any good and if the style is suitable for such a document. I've planned and written it out of my own experiences with ConTeXt, so maybe this document could become a My Way doc when it is finished (something public domain anyway). Thank you, Mari ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Feedback wanted on a ConTeXt tutorial
On 2013–09–29 Mari Voipio wrote:
Inspired by some informal discussions at the recent ConTeXt meeting I
started to write a *really* basic ConTeXt tutorial.
I'm happy to see someone willing to invest time and effort to
improve the documentation! I did neither attend the meeting, nor
take part in this discussion and I don't want to sound discouraging
in any way. But I'm not sure if it makes sense to start another
manual. ConTeXt already has plenty of manuals, including the very
short “Top 10 macro” guide:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/info/context-top-ten/cmds.pdf
Then there is a medium sized manual aimed at beginners, “ConTeXt, an
excursion” (which is rather outdated, I agree)
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf
“ConTeXt, an excursion” would probably come closest to what you have
started. And then there is the main reference manual
http://pmrb.free.fr/contextref.pdf
I think the best approach is to focus on one single manual and write
it in a beginner-friendly fashion. Everything else leads to
duplicated effort and confusion. Furthermore, information scattered
in many small places is harder to keep up-to-date.
If a short beginner tutorial is required, I would suggest to create
short chapter “A jump start for the impatient” or something along
those lines and add installation instructions to the manual,
detailing the TeXlive and ConTeXt standalone installation process.
As I said, I didn't take part in the mentioned discussion, so I
might be missing out relevant information.
However, before I get further than the first six chapters, I'd
like to get feedback on it, especially on the content, but also on
the layout. The file is (at least temporarily) available at
http://www.lucet.fi/pdfs/ctxbasics.pdf.
Some thoughts:
1.1.1
Unfortunately there’s no really easy way to install ConTEXt on Windows.
I never installed ConTeXt on Windows, but if this is true this
should definitely be fixed. According to
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone#Command_line_method
it should be sufficient to run
1) download the installer:
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-setup-mswin.zip
2) install: first-setup.bat
3) add ConTeXt to path:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Windows_Installation:_ConTeXt_Suite_with_SciTe#Step_3:_Add_ConTeXt_to_Windows_search_path
(Maybe adding the exact command or a screenshot for step 3 would
be helpful.)
If this fails, we should work on that.
5 Formatting text
Since you explicitly mention “The basic idea is to separate layout
from content” in sections 2.1 and 3.1 I think it's not very
educational to tell beginners to use font switches in the code:
This is a {\ss test}. % sans serif
This is a {\tt test}. % typewriter
Rather teach logical markup from the very beginning.
\definehighlight
[important]
[style=bold]
\important{This} is logical markup.
6.3 Floats
This is arguable, but I personally would drop the (not deprecated
and still supported) MkII syntax for floats
\placefigure
[here,force] % really try to put the float just here
{This is a cow} % Caption
{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm]}
and replace it with the more intuitive MkIV syntax:
\startplacefigure [title=A cow, reference=fig:acow]
\externalfigure [cow]
\stopplacefigure
And refrain from using the [here, force] setting, otherwise
beginners will never grasp the concept of floats.
6.4 Combinations
Also arguable, but you might consider using the newer
\startcombination [nx=3, ny=1]
…
syntax. It's more contextish and easier to understand, in my
opinion. Furthermore, it's not covered in any of the manuals, as far
as I know.
I hope I phrased my comments in a constructive and helpful manner.
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] Repeat second-level registers within index
Thank you! Warm regards. On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 9/28/2013 12:27 AM, Thangalin wrote: Thank you, Hans. The error still seems to be present. Out of curiosity, what does max 4 mean? Does it limit the index nesting levels? indeed For my project, I require 5 nesting levels -- is that possible? sure, i'll jump the max to 5 (but then also have to optimize a bit as it can become inefficient for simple indices) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Transparency and ConTeXt
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Re: [NTG-context] Feedback wanted on a ConTeXt tutorial
Hi, Some feedback: - The introduction paragraph can be shortened. For example, tell the reader to try the subsequent examples using ConTeXt Live web page (as opposed to 'almost all of the examples in the series can be run online'). On any example that does not work, indicate such at the time. - abt 40 euros is missing ou. - combo should be combination. - In Windows, In Mac, etc. can be Windows, Mac, etc. - Use the active voice (it shortens text). - Avoid using abbreviations and jargon. As Marco noted, why not apply such wonderful effort to the wiki? On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Mari Voipio mari.voi...@iki.fi wrote: Hello! Inspired by some informal discussions at the recent ConTeXt meeting I started to write a *really* basic ConTeXt tutorial. However, before I get further than the first six chapters, I'd like to get feedback on it, especially on the content, but also on the layout. The file is (at least temporarily) available at http://www.lucet.fi/pdfs/ctxbasics.pdf. I know already that there are a few things missing in the existing chapters, but I'd like to know if the document is any good and if the style is suitable for such a document. I've planned and written it out of my own experiences with ConTeXt, so maybe this document could become a My Way doc when it is finished (something public domain anyway). Thank you, Mari ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Feedback wanted on a ConTeXt tutorial
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Marco Patzer li...@homerow.info wrote:
Then there is a medium sized manual aimed at beginners, “ConTeXt, an
excursion” (which is rather outdated, I agree)
I was actually aiming at one step lower and in doing things in the
order a word processor user would approach ConTeXt. My copy of
excursion is fairly thumbed at this stage, but I still sometimes need
to use find to actually get at the things I need. So I wrote this new
one my way.
As I said, I didn't take part in the mentioned discussion, so I
might be missing out relevant information.
It wasn't anything major, just some off-hand sentences. I've just
written something similar for MetaPost, so this approach felt natural
and kept me amused during the travel home (including 4 hrs spent
sitting at the airport).
I never installed ConTeXt on Windows, but if this is true this
should definitely be fixed. According to
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone#Command_line_method
it should be sufficient to run
1) download the installer:
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-setup-mswin.zip
2) install: first-setup.bat
3) add ConTeXt to path:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Windows_Installation:_ConTeXt_Suite_with_SciTe#Step_3:_Add_ConTeXt_to_Windows_search_path
(Maybe adding the exact command or a screenshot for step 3 would
be helpful.)
The problem is here: Windows users in general aren't used to command
line and even fewer have ever touched a path (or even know such a
thing exists). The only almost one-click approach is TeXLive - and
unfortunately I can't currently test that on my Windows as it might
mess up with my vital ConTeXt installation. Thus there is no real
Windows way of installing ConTeXt and this may hold some potential
users back.
5 Formatting text
Since you explicitly mention “The basic idea is to separate layout
from content” in sections 2.1 and 3.1 I think it's not very
educational to tell beginners to use font switches in the code:
This is a {\ss test}. % sans serif
This is a {\tt test}. % typewriter
Rather teach logical markup from the very beginning.
True. Not that I follow this advice myself, but probably should (some
of my earlier ConTeXt files are - umm - not beautiful because I have
some Word baggage).
\definehighlight
[important]
[style=bold]
\important{This} is logical markup.
I'd say this approach is too complicated for somebody who just wants
to do documents on ConTeXt (more typing, too, and we people are lazy).
However, I was thinking about trashing both \bf and \it and just
talking about \em for marking emphasis. I think the big manual
includes information on how to adjust \em to one's preferences (I'm
sure I saw it *somewhere* while digging stuff up for this).
This is arguable, but I personally would drop the (not deprecated
and still supported) MkII syntax for floats
Interestingly, this was the only syntax I know of and the only one I
can find in the manuals and on the wiki.
\placefigure
[here,force] % really try to put the float just here
{This is a cow} % Caption
{\externalfigure[cow][width=2cm]}
and replace it with the more intuitive MkIV syntax:
\startplacefigure [title=A cow, reference=fig:acow]
\externalfigure [cow]
\stopplacefigure
Nice. I'll try to get around to wikifying this asap.
And refrain from using the [here, force] setting, otherwise
beginners will never grasp the concept of floats.
True. And otherwise I'm not happy about what I said about floats - I
just barely understand them myself and gaining that knowledge was hard
work - so I'll rewrite that section and will come up with something
else to put there. (Although floats with here,force still float,
just less so. Been there, done that; now I know it is a feature, not a
bug. Useful for a thesis, not so in my work.)
6.4 Combinations
Also arguable, but you might consider using the newer
\startcombination [nx=3, ny=1]
…
syntax. It's more contextish and easier to understand, in my
opinion. Furthermore, it's not covered in any of the manuals, as far
as I know.
Nor the wiki, I'd never seen it before, although I've understood that
more and more ConTeXt commands move towards the start ... stop syntax.
Again, I'll try to get around to wikify this soonish (first I want to
try it out, though).
I've found before that I learn best by teaching others, for I will not
teach anything I don't properly understand my way. Now I've already
learned three new things, not bad. :-)
Thanks for the comments!
Mari
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Re: [NTG-context] Feedback wanted on a ConTeXt tutorial
Hi! On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Thangalin thanga...@gmail.com wrote: - The introduction paragraph can be shortened. For example, tell the reader to try the subsequent examples using ConTeXt Live web page (as opposed to 'almost all of the examples in the series can be run online'). On any example that does not work, indicate such at the time. Darn, I forgot to change this one - I found that the sample graphics are found by ConTeXt Live, so *all* examples this far work online. I aim at keeping things that way. I'm not that happy with the intro anyway, your sentence is a lot more beautiful than mine. :-) - Avoid using abbreviations and jargon. I thought I had, but obviously not enough. Will have to do a jargon check all over - I write one chapter at a time so minor discrepancies can be expected at this stage. As Marco noted, why not apply such wonderful effort to the wiki? Because my idea is to make a document that allows one to start from the beginning and doing the examples in the order given. I used the wiki a lot to check on stuff, but it is not quite the same thing - and wiki's second document is already a real jump start to ConTeXt, I want to introduce things slower. I will try to improve the wiki when I stumble on problems. E.g. within last three days I've looked up half a dozen commands that are not on the command reference index (the longer one) even though they have a page of their own, e.g. \externalfigure (not on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands but has a page at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/externalfigure). If the index is generated manually (as it seems), I can edit it and add missing commands on the go when I find them. I must admit that I find it a bit scary to edit the wiki; I'm always worried about messing up with somebody else's work - with this tutorial project I can only mess up with my own text and mostly I can live with that. Editing the wiki I think that everybody else must know better than I do, for my command of ConTeXt is fairly basic, so I can't see my solutions being better than those already existing. Thus I rarely log in to edit, except with failing links and other small issues. How should I phrase this? The wiki is like an encyclopedia, I look up stuff (more often than not with find) that I need for each case. My aim is to make something like a novel or a book used for learning the basics of a foreign language, introducing new things gradually. Thank you for your time and comments! Mari ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] fake feature “extend” behaving weirdly
Hi Hans,
this got posted on the DANTE list today.
\definefontfeature [quite_wide] [extend=1.5]
\definefont [mainfont] [file:Iwona-Regular.otf]
\definefont [widefont] [file:Iwona-Regular.otf*quite_wide]
\starttext
\mainfont
{\widefont foo} %% comment this line and “bar” is fine
bar
{\widefont baz}
\stoptext
The example defines two fonts with the same base font. If the
scaled variant is used before the regular one then the latter
will appear scaled as well and the spacing (bboxes?) gets messed
up.
I suspect a relation to this old issue:
http://tracker.luatex.org/view.php?id=829
but if I substitute “slant” for “extend” the behavior is
different.
Best,
Philipp
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