Re: [NTG-context] embeddedxtable

2015-05-25 Thread Meer, H. van der

On 24 May 2015, at 22:53, Wolfgang Schuster 
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.commailto:schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:


The spaces in the output are produced by the spaces between the tags (\xmlstrip 
doesn’t seem to work)
and you have to use a combination of \removeunwantedspaces and \ignorespaces to 
remove them.


It is a pity if \xmlstrip does not work. It is of course fairly essential that 
the whitespace between the tags can be ignored. I sincerely hope this will be 
looked into. Or could this be a special effect related to either the use of a 
buffer as source or to the embeddedxtable structure?

However, it doesn't seem the whole story. I removed all whitespace between the 
tags and the \unskip's from the code. In the result below you can see that 
removing the whitespace between the tags removes most of the spurious spaces, 
but not all of them. Another picture has the = embedded before the \xmlflush in 
\startrow and shows that still spurious space is injected. To me it looks if 
every row gets an extra space: three of them before the table and the last one 
after the table (but here I am guessing).

Hans van der Meer

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Re: [NTG-context] embeddedxtable

2015-05-25 Thread Meer, H. van der

 On 24 May 2015, at 22:53, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
 wrote:


 Am 24.05.2015 um 21:33 schrieb Meer, H. van der h.vanderm...@uva.nl:

 In this case you have to provide a working minimal example.

 Wolfgang

 Here an example as minimal as I could construct.

 The spaces in the output are produced by the spaces between the tags 
 (\xmlstrip doesn’t seem to work)
 and you have to use a combination of \removeunwantedspaces and \ignorespaces 
 to remove them.

 To center your table this isn’t necessary when you replace \midaligned with a 
 framedtext
 environment in combination with “location=middle” or use a float command like 
 \placefigure.


 \startxmlsetups xmlcommon
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{table|tr|td}{xmlcommon:*}
 \stopxmlsetups

 \xmlregistersetup{xmlcommon}

 \startxmlsetups xmlcommon:table
 % \removeunwantedspaces
\startembeddedxtable
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopembeddedxtable
 % \ignorespaces
 \stopxmlsetups

 \startxmlsetups xmlcommon:tr
 % \removeunwantedspaces
\startxrow
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxrow
 % \ignorespaces
 \stopxmlsetups

 \startxmlsetups xmlcommon:td
 % \removeunwantedspaces
\startxcell
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxcell
 % \ignorespaces
 \stopxmlsetups


Input from file or from buffer doesn't make a difference.
I inserted the \removeunwantedspaces and \ignorespaces, as you suggested. The 
xmlstrip macros do not make any difference, either active or commented out. 
Then there still remains extra space at the end. See below.









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Re: [NTG-context] embeddedxtable

2015-05-25 Thread Meer, H. van der


On 24 May 2015, at 22:53, Wolfgang Schuster 
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.commailto:schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:


The spaces in the output are produced by the spaces between the tags (\xmlstrip 
doesn’t seem to work)
and you have to use a combination of \removeunwantedspaces and \ignorespaces to 
remove them.



There is something I do not understand and I hope you can explain this. The 
table is typeset by the \xmlflush{#1} in the table macro:

\startxmlsetups xmlcommon:table
Z\bgroup
\setupxtable[% Setup defaults
leftmargindistance=0pt,rightmargindistance=0pt,
offset=2pt,height=fit,width=fit,
align={center,lohi},columndistance=0pt]
\setupxtableparameters{#1}
\startlocationbox{#1}
\removeunwantedspaces
\startembeddedxtable X\xmlflush{#1}Y\stopembeddedxtable
\ignorespaces
\stoplocationbox
\egroup
\stopxmlsetups

The X and Y  have been placed around the \xmlflush to see what happens. Why 
do I see them 3 times? It looks as if  the embeddedxtable-line is called 3 
times (or maybe 4 times once for each row with the last call vanishing). 
However, the table macro itself is called only once, the Z at the beginning 
proves that. I cannot explain this.

Another observation: inserting a newline after the ?xml-tag also does insert 
a space just before the Z.

Hans van der Meer





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Re: [NTG-context] embeddedxtable

2015-05-25 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

 Am 25.05.2015 um 11:26 schrieb Meer, H. van der h.vanderm...@uva.nl:
 
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 22:53, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
 mailto:schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 The spaces in the output are produced by the spaces between the tags 
 (\xmlstrip doesn’t seem to work)
 and you have to use a combination of \removeunwantedspaces and \ignorespaces 
 to remove them.
 
 
 
 There is something I do not understand and I hope you can explain this. The 
 table is typeset by the \xmlflush{#1} in the table macro:
 
 \startxmlsetups xmlcommon:table
 Z\bgroup
 \setupxtable[% Setup defaults
 leftmargindistance=0pt,rightmargindistance=0pt,
 offset=2pt,height=fit,width=fit,
 align={center,lohi},columndistance=0pt]
 \setupxtableparameters{#1}
 \startlocationbox{#1}
 \removeunwantedspaces
 \startembeddedxtable X\xmlflush{#1}Y\stopembeddedxtable
 \ignorespaces
 \stoplocationbox
 \egroup
 \stopxmlsetups
 
 The X and Y  have been placed around the \xmlflush to see what happens. 
 Why do I see them 3 times? It looks as if  the embeddedxtable-line is called 
 3 times (or maybe 4 times once for each row with the last call vanishing). 
 However, the table macro itself is called only once, the Z at the beginning 
 proves that. I cannot explain this. 

This is normal and needed for the calculation of the cell widths and heights.

This mechanism is called trial typesetting and used by a few mechanism (e.g. 
float captions) to get the dimensions of the content.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] embeddedxtable

2015-05-25 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

 Am 25.05.2015 um 12:08 schrieb Meer, H. van der h.vanderm...@uva.nl:
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 22:53, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
 mailto:schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Am 24.05.2015 um 21:33 schrieb Meer, H. van der h.vanderm...@uva.nl 
 mailto:h.vanderm...@uva.nl:
 
 Here an example as minimal as I could construct.
 
 The spaces in the output are produced by the spaces between the tags 
 (\xmlstrip doesn’t seem to work)
 and you have to use a combination of \removeunwantedspaces and \ignorespaces 
 to remove them.
 
 To center your table this isn’t necessary when you replace \midaligned with 
 a framedtext
 environment in combination with “location=middle” or use a float command 
 like \placefigure.
 
 
 I think I can reduce the number of places where spaces have to be suppressed. 
 With just 2 \removeunwantedspaces and 1 \ignorespaces I get rid of most of 
 them. The \framed[offset=0pt] shows where spurious space is still inserted.
 
 Only 1 space remains inside the framed: in the vertical dimension below the 
 table. Any idea where this comes from? Some parameter to change in the 
 \framerd perhaps?

It’s impossible to tell what’s wrong with our code snippets, you have to create 
working minimal examples.

The following example shows where you have to take care of extra space and you 
don’t need them when you put the whole table in a \vbox (you can test by 
commenting all \ignorespaces and \removeunwantedspaces commands and replacing 
\ruledhbox with \ruledvbox).

\startxmlsetups xmlcommon
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{table|tbody|tr|td}{xmlcommon:*}
\stopxmlsetups

\xmlregistersetup{xmlcommon}

\startxmlsetups xmlcommon:table
%   \removeunwantedspaces
\startembeddedxtable
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopembeddedxtable
\ignorespaces
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups xmlcommon:tbody
%   \removeunwantedspaces
\startxtablebody
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxtablebody
\ignorespaces
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups xmlcommon:tr
%   \removeunwantedspaces
\startxrow
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxrow
\ignorespaces
\stopxmlsetups

\startxmlsetups xmlcommon:td
\removeunwantedspaces
\startxcell
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxcell
\ignorespaces
\stopxmlsetups

\starttext

\startbuffer[table]
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
root
table
tbody
tr
tdA/td
tdB/td
/tr
tr
tdC/td
tdD/td
/tr
/tbody
/table
/root
\stopbuffer

\ruledhbox{\xmlprocessbuffer{root}{table}{}}

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] embeddedxtable

2015-05-25 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

 Am 25.05.2015 um 10:35 schrieb Meer, H. van der h.vanderm...@uva.nl:
 
 
 On 24 May 2015, at 22:53, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
 mailto:schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 The spaces in the output are produced by the spaces between the tags 
 (\xmlstrip doesn’t seem to work)
 and you have to use a combination of \removeunwantedspaces and \ignorespaces 
 to remove them.
 
 
 It is a pity if \xmlstrip does not work. It is of course fairly essential 
 that the whitespace between the tags can be ignored. I sincerely hope this 
 will be looked into. Or could this be a special effect related to either the 
 use of a buffer as source or to the embeddedxtable structure?
 
 However, it doesn't seem the whole story. I removed all whitespace between 
 the tags and the \unskip's from the code. In the result below you can see 
 that removing the whitespace between the tags removes most of the spurious 
 spaces, but not all of them. Another picture has the = embedded before the 
 \xmlflush in \startrow and shows that still spurious space is injected. To me 
 it looks if every row gets an extra space: three of them before the table and 
 the last one after the table (but here I am guessing).

I removed the “tbody” tag from my example which adds another space.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] embeddedxtable

2015-05-25 Thread Meer, H. van der

On 24 May 2015, at 22:53, Wolfgang Schuster 
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.commailto:schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:


Am 24.05.2015 um 21:33 schrieb Meer, H. van der 
h.vanderm...@uva.nlmailto:h.vanderm...@uva.nl:

Here an example as minimal as I could construct.

The spaces in the output are produced by the spaces between the tags (\xmlstrip 
doesn’t seem to work)
and you have to use a combination of \removeunwantedspaces and \ignorespaces to 
remove them.

To center your table this isn’t necessary when you replace \midaligned with a 
framedtext
environment in combination with “location=middle” or use a float command like 
\placefigure.


I think I can reduce the number of places where spaces have to be suppressed. 
With just 2 \removeunwantedspaces and 1 \ignorespaces I get rid of most of 
them. The \framed[offset=0pt] shows where spurious space is still inserted.

Only 1 space remains inside the framed: in the vertical dimension below the 
table. Any idea where this comes from? Some parameter to change in the \framerd 
perhaps?

Of course I would be happier if none of these space-suppressing is necessary in 
my code, because ConTeXt takes care of them.

Hans van der Meer

\startxmlsetups xmlcommon:table
\bgroup
\setupxtable[% Setup defaults
leftmargindistance=0pt,rightmargindistance=0pt,
offset=2pt,height=fit,width=fit,
align={center,lohi},columndistance=0pt]
\setupxtableparameters{#1}
\startlocationbox{#1}
\startembeddedxtable
\xmlflush{#1}
\removeunwantedspaces
\stopembeddedxtable
\stoplocationbox
\egroup
\ignorespaces
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xmlcommon:tr
\bgroup
\setupxtableparameters{#1}
\removeunwantedspaces
\startxrow
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxrow
\egroup
\stopxmlsetups






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Re: [NTG-context] embeddedxtable

2015-05-25 Thread Meer, H. van der

 On 25 May 2015, at 13:05, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 The following example shows where you have to take care of extra space and 
 you don’t need them when you put the whole table in a \vbox (you can test by 
 commenting all \ignorespaces and \removeunwantedspaces commands and replacing 
 \ruledhbox with \ruledvbox).
 

Thanks for the suggestion of the \ruledvbox. This shows that the remaining 
whitespace originates in the \framed and not in the table code.

Hans van der Meer

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[NTG-context] Architectural paper sizes

2015-05-25 Thread Kate F
Hello,

I made definitions for the architectural paper sizes, usually known as
ArchA, ArchB, etc.
I don't know if you want to add them to base/page-lay.mkiv.

% Architectural sizes
\definepapersize [ArchA]  [\c!width=9in, \c!height=12in] % 3:4
\definepapersize [ArchB]  [\c!width=12in,\c!height=18in] % 2:3
\definepapersize [ArchC]  [\c!width=18in,\c!height=24in] % 3:4
\definepapersize [ArchD]  [\c!width=24in,\c!height=36in] % 2:3
\definepapersize [ArchE]  [\c!width=36in,\c!height=48in] % 3:4
\definepapersize [ArchE1] [\c!width=30in,\c!height=42in] % 5:7
\definepapersize [ArchE2] [\c!width=26in,\c!height=38in] % 13:19
\definepapersize [ArchE3] [\c!width=27in,\c!height=39in] % 9:13

-- 
Kate
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