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Re: [NTG-context] Large space between mode blocks

2017-05-18 Thread Hans Hagen


On 5/18/2017 6:13 PM, Jan Willem Flamma wrote:

Dear list members,

Another mode related question:

When combining modes, a rather large double space appears between two
mode blocks (i.e. where the first mode stops and the second mode begins)
In the MWE below are 3 cases. The large space is not present in the 3rd case

Is this intended behaviour?


sure, you get what you ask for


Kind regards,
Jan Willem

==

\enablemode[X]
\enablemode[Y]

\starttext

% Case 1 - Double space present
\startmode[X]
\input ward
\stopmode
\startmode[Y]


\startmode[Y]%


\input ward
\stopmode

\blank[big]

% Case 2 - Double space present
\startmode[X]
\input ward
\doifmode{Y}{


\doifmode{Y}{%


\input ward
}
\stopmode

\blank[big]

% Case 3 - Double space NOT present
\startmode[X]
\input ward
\doifmode{Y}{\input ward}
\stopmode

\stoptext


you can always do:

\removeunwantedspaces\space\input ward


On 18 May 2017, at 14:28, Hans Hagen > wrote:

On 5/18/2017 1:48 PM, Jan Willem Flamma wrote:

Dear list members

If using modes to show or hide certain part of the text.

In the MWE below the part between the startmode[test] .. stopmode
works jus fine. When using the \doifmode construction an error is
produced on the position of the closing curly bracket.
I prefer to use \doifmode constructions because they can be nested.
The question block must play a role here but I don’t know why.

Am I overlooking something here?

Kind regards,
Jan Willem Flamma



\enablemode[test]

\defineblock[question]
\defineblock[answer]

\starttext

   \doifmode{test}{

   \input knuth

   \beginquestion
   \startquestion
   Question
   \stopquestion
   \endquestion
   \beginanswer
   \startanswer
   Answer
   \stopanswer
   \endanswer

   }


in order to get rid of the {} the \doifmode match has to grad the
argument which doesn't work well with commands that change the nature
of the \ on the fly, so it's a no-go



   \startmode[test]

   \input knuth

   \beginquestion
   \startquestion
   Question
   \stopquestion
   \endquestion
   \beginanswer
   \startanswer
   Answer
   \stopanswer
   \endanswer

   \stopmode

\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Large space between mode blocks

2017-05-18 Thread Jan Willem Flamma

Dear list members,

Another mode related question:

When combining modes, a rather large double space appears between two mode 
blocks (i.e. where the first mode stops and the second mode begins)
In the MWE below are 3 cases. The large space is not present in the 3rd case

Is this intended behaviour?

Kind regards,
Jan Willem

==

\enablemode[X]
\enablemode[Y]

\starttext

% Case 1 - Double space present
\startmode[X]
\input ward
\stopmode
\startmode[Y]
\input ward
\stopmode

\blank[big]

% Case 2 - Double space present
\startmode[X]
\input ward
\doifmode{Y}{
\input ward
}
\stopmode

\blank[big]

% Case 3 - Double space NOT present
\startmode[X]
\input ward
\doifmode{Y}{\input ward}
\stopmode

\stoptext



> On 18 May 2017, at 14:28, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> 
> On 5/18/2017 1:48 PM, Jan Willem Flamma wrote:
>> Dear list members
>> 
>> If using modes to show or hide certain part of the text.
>> 
>> In the MWE below the part between the startmode[test] .. stopmode works jus 
>> fine. When using the \doifmode construction an error is produced on the 
>> position of the closing curly bracket.
>> I prefer to use \doifmode constructions because they can be nested. The 
>> question block must play a role here but I don’t know why.
>> 
>> Am I overlooking something here?
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Jan Willem Flamma
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> \enablemode[test]
>> 
>> \defineblock[question]
>> \defineblock[answer]
>> 
>> \starttext
>> 
>>\doifmode{test}{
>> 
>>\input knuth
>> 
>>\beginquestion
>>\startquestion
>>Question
>>\stopquestion
>>\endquestion
>>\beginanswer
>>\startanswer
>>Answer
>>\stopanswer
>>\endanswer
>> 
>>}
> 
> in order to get rid of the {} the \doifmode match has to grad the argument 
> which doesn't work well with commands that change the nature of the \ on the 
> fly, so it's a no-go
> 
>> 
>>\startmode[test]
>> 
>>\input knuth
>> 
>>\beginquestion
>>\startquestion
>>Question
>>\stopquestion
>>\endquestion
>>\beginanswer
>>\startanswer
>>Answer
>>\stopanswer
>>\endanswer
>> 
>>\stopmode
>> 
>> \stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] \overline and \overbar

2017-05-18 Thread Jeong Dal

Dear,

I am sorry to bring up \overline, \overbar, and \bar issue.

Here is a sample file and 
I attached two pdf files which were compiled using two different version of 
ConTeXt.

Under the LuaTeX v. 1.03, ConTeXt  ver: 2017.03.02 22:23 MKIV beta, the output 
overlineB.pdf is OK,
but under  the LuaTeX v. 1.04, ConTeXt  ver: 2017.05.14 19:09 MKIV beta, the 
output overlineA.pdf is strange.

Would you please check what is the problem?

Thank you.

Best regards,

Dalyoung

%%
\starttext
\startitemize[n]
\item Which is true?

\startitemize[n, packed, columns, two][stopper=,left=(, right=)]
\item $\overline{A} = A \cup A^\circ$
\item $\overline{A\cup B} = \overline{A} \cup \overline{B}$
\item If $A \subset B$ then $\overline{B} \subset \overline{A}$
\item $A\cup A'$ is an open set.
\stopitemize

\item Which is true?

\startitemize[n, packed, columns, two][stopper=,left=(, right=)]
\item $\overbar{A} = A \cup A^\circ$
\item If $A \subset B$ then $\overbar{B} \subset \overbar{A}$
\item $\overbar{A\cup B} = \overbar{A} \cup \overbar{B}$
\item $A\cup A'$ is an open set.
\stopitemize

\item Which is true?

\startitemize[n, packed, columns, two][stopper=,left=(, right=)]
\item $\bar{ACC} = A \cup A^\circ$
\item If $A \subset B$ then $\bar{BCDE} \subset \bar{A}$
\item $\bar{ACC\cup B} = \bar{A} \cup \bar{BCC}$
\item $A\cup A'$ is an open set.
\stopitemize

\stopitemize

\stoptext

log files:
%%  -- OverlineA.pdf
mtx-context | run 1: luatex 
--fmt="/Users/graph/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex/cont-en"
 --jobname="0verline" 
--lua="/Users/graph/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex/cont-en.lui"
 --no-parse-first-line --c:currentrun=1 --c:fulljobname="./0verline.tex" 
--c:input="./0verline.tex" --c:kindofrun=1 --c:maxnofruns=9 "cont-yes.mkiv"
This is LuaTeX, Version 1.0.4 (TeX Live 2017) 
 system commands enabled.
open source > level 1, order 1, name 
'/Users/graph/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv'
system  > 
system  > ConTeXt  ver: 2017.05.14 19:09 MKIV beta  fmt: 2017.5.16  
int: english/english
system  > 

%%  -- OverlineB.pdf
mtx-context | run 1: luatex 
--fmt="/Users/graph/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex/cont-en"
 --jobname="0verline" 
--lua="/Users/graph/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/luatex/cont-en.lui"
 --no-parse-first-line --c:currentrun=1 --c:fulljobname="./0verline.tex" 
--c:input="./0verline.tex" --c:kindofrun=1 --c:maxnofruns=9 --c:purgeall 
"cont-yes.mkiv"
This is LuaTeX, Version 1.0.3 (TeX Live 2017/dev) 
 system commands enabled.
open source > level 1, order 1, name 
'/Users/graph/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv'
system  > 
system  > ConTeXt  ver: 2017.03.02 22:23 MKIV beta  fmt: 2017.3.11  
int: english/english



0verline.tex
Description: TeX document


0verlineA.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


0verlineB.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


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Re: [NTG-context] \doifmode error with question blocks

2017-05-18 Thread Hans Hagen


On 5/18/2017 1:48 PM, Jan Willem Flamma wrote:

Dear list members

If using modes to show or hide certain part of the text.

In the MWE below the part between the startmode[test] .. stopmode works jus 
fine. When using the \doifmode construction an error is produced on the 
position of the closing curly bracket.
I prefer to use \doifmode constructions because they can be nested. The 
question block must play a role here but I don’t know why.

Am I overlooking something here?

Kind regards,
Jan Willem Flamma



\enablemode[test]

\defineblock[question]
\defineblock[answer]

\starttext

\doifmode{test}{

\input knuth

\beginquestion
\startquestion
Question
\stopquestion
\endquestion
\beginanswer
\startanswer
Answer
\stopanswer
\endanswer

}


in order to get rid of the {} the \doifmode match has to grad the 
argument which doesn't work well with commands that change the nature of 
the \ on the fly, so it's a no-go




\startmode[test]

\input knuth

\beginquestion
\startquestion
Question
\stopquestion
\endquestion
\beginanswer
\startanswer
Answer
\stopanswer
\endanswer

\stopmode

\stoptext
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[NTG-context] \doifmode error with question blocks

2017-05-18 Thread Jan Willem Flamma

Dear list members

If using modes to show or hide certain part of the text.

In the MWE below the part between the startmode[test] .. stopmode works jus 
fine. When using the \doifmode construction an error is produced on the 
position of the closing curly bracket.
I prefer to use \doifmode constructions because they can be nested. The 
question block must play a role here but I don’t know why.

Am I overlooking something here?

Kind regards,
Jan Willem Flamma



\enablemode[test]

\defineblock[question]
\defineblock[answer]

\starttext

\doifmode{test}{

\input knuth

\beginquestion
\startquestion
Question
\stopquestion
\endquestion
\beginanswer
\startanswer
Answer
\stopanswer
\endanswer

}


\startmode[test]

\input knuth

\beginquestion
\startquestion
Question
\stopquestion
\endquestion
\beginanswer
\startanswer
Answer
\stopanswer
\endanswer

\stopmode

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] (re)defining command with options

2017-05-18 Thread Florian Grammel

> See also http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands_with_optional_arguments 
> 

How could I possibly have overlooked this?!

Thanks a lot!



Florian Grammel

Copenhagen, Denmark

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Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-18 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist

Den 18 maj 2017 10:13 fm skrev "Otared Kavian" :

Hi Hans,

Thanks for your explanations.
When using constructions such as $f’’_2(x)$, I will adapt my input  in
order to get what seems correct.

Best regards: OK

> On 17 May 2017, at 17:17, Hans Hagen  wrote:
>
> On 5/17/2017 8:35 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> Thanks for having fixed the behavior of the prime in the latest beta
release (ConTeXt  version 2017.05.15 21:48).
>> However, as you may see in the two attached PDF files, the result is
still incorrect when one types for example $f_2’’(x)$, which should give
the same result as $f’’_2(x)$.
>> The correct behaviour is that obtained with mkii. Indeed one can
circumvent the behaviour of the latest beta release of mkiv by using tricks
such as the ones in the example code below, but this should be avoided in
my opinion.
>
> well, it depends on how one sees this '' mess
>
> the problem with primes is that in macro packages they are messy entities
that should collapse or not (active char mess) and the more clever a macro
packages becomes the harder it becomes to makes it robust and/or to fight
against such heuristics
>
> add to that the fact that the symbol itself is a funny positioned
something already raised in a font or not i.e. sometimes in need of
superscript and sometimes explicitly not
>
> for unicode we need to turn two '' into a double and ''' into a and
triple such
>
> that said, in context these thingies are at some point intercepted and
their current state is looked at: superscript? multipel in a row? one ebing
the nucleus of another ... etc .. the current (working again) behavior is
what we support and i don't look forward to more heuristics
>
>
>> The following PDF have been obtained with mkii and mkiv with the
following example code.
>> Best regards: OK
>>
>> %%% begin derivatives-prime.tex
>> \starttext
>>
>> \startformula
>> f''_{2}(x) = f_{2}''(x) = f^{''}_{2}(x) = f_{2}^{''}(x) % =
f^{{}^{''}}_{2}(x)
>> \stopformula
>> As one may see the result of \type{f_{2}''(x) = } $f_{2}''(x)$ is not
correct in \type{mkiv}.
>>
>> The following positions of the superscripts \type{(3)} are correct both
in \type{mkii} and in \type{mkiv}.
>> \startformula
>> f^{(3)}_{2}(x) = f_{2}^{(3)}(x)
>> \stopformula
>>
>> \stoptext
>> %%% end derivatives-prime.tex
>>
>>
>>
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OK, very good, it seems that we have a working solution and one specific
way to write it. I have absolutely nothing against that, but I would like
us (me?) to document it, since I think future users might have use of it.
Is the math page in the wiki the right place?

(It will take some time before I will be able to act. I'm currently
travelling with close to no working connection.)

/Mikael
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Re: [NTG-context] Spurious vertical space above figure

2017-05-18 Thread Herbert Voss


Am 18.05.2017 um 01:18 schrieb Henri Menke:


Motivated by this question on TeX.SX
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/370292
I found out that in a full-page figure there is a spurious vertical
space of .5\baselineskip above the figure.  I was not able to find out
where it comes from.  Is this by design?  MWE is below.



---

\showframe

\starttext

\input knuth

\startplacefigure
   [location={leftpage,none}]


\startplacefigure
[location={lftpage,high,none}]


Herbert




   %% remove spurious vertical space
   %% don't ask me where it comes from
   %\blank[-.5\baselineskip]

   \externalfigure
 [dummy]
 [height=\textheight,width=\textwidth]
\stopplacefigure

\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] Position of prime for derivatives

2017-05-18 Thread Otared Kavian

Hi Hans,

Thanks for your explanations. 
When using constructions such as $f’’_2(x)$, I will adapt my input  in order to 
get what seems correct.

Best regards: OK

> On 17 May 2017, at 17:17, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> 
> On 5/17/2017 8:35 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>> 
>> Thanks for having fixed the behavior of the prime in the latest beta release 
>> (ConTeXt  version 2017.05.15 21:48).
>> However, as you may see in the two attached PDF files, the result is still 
>> incorrect when one types for example $f_2’’(x)$, which should give the same 
>> result as $f’’_2(x)$.
>> The correct behaviour is that obtained with mkii. Indeed one can circumvent 
>> the behaviour of the latest beta release of mkiv by using tricks such as the 
>> ones in the example code below, but this should be avoided in my opinion.
> 
> well, it depends on how one sees this '' mess
> 
> the problem with primes is that in macro packages they are messy entities 
> that should collapse or not (active char mess) and the more clever a macro 
> packages becomes the harder it becomes to makes it robust and/or to fight 
> against such heuristics
> 
> add to that the fact that the symbol itself is a funny positioned something 
> already raised in a font or not i.e. sometimes in need of superscript and 
> sometimes explicitly not
> 
> for unicode we need to turn two '' into a double and ''' into a and triple 
> such
> 
> that said, in context these thingies are at some point intercepted and their 
> current state is looked at: superscript? multipel in a row? one ebing the 
> nucleus of another ... etc .. the current (working again) behavior is what we 
> support and i don't look forward to more heuristics
> 
> 
>> The following PDF have been obtained with mkii and mkiv with the following 
>> example code.
>> Best regards: OK
>> 
>> %%% begin derivatives-prime.tex
>> \starttext
>> 
>> \startformula
>> f''_{2}(x) = f_{2}''(x) = f^{''}_{2}(x) = f_{2}^{''}(x) % = 
>> f^{{}^{''}}_{2}(x)
>> \stopformula
>> As one may see the result of \type{f_{2}''(x) = } $f_{2}''(x)$ is not 
>> correct in \type{mkiv}.
>> 
>> The following positions of the superscripts \type{(3)} are correct both in 
>> \type{mkii} and in \type{mkiv}.
>> \startformula
>> f^{(3)}_{2}(x) = f_{2}^{(3)}(x)
>> \stopformula
>> 
>> \stoptext
>> %%% end derivatives-prime.tex
>> 
>> 
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